breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Sept 10, 2023 20:12:24 GMT
DD (16, so keep that in mind) recently aired a list of grievances and one of them was that in a 2019 scrapbook layout I said she was slow in middle school cross country.
I finally dug out that scrapbook when I was putting away some other layouts. What I said was "dd might not be the fastest on the team but she always tries her hardest" and then something about how cool it was that just as she crossed the finish line a rainbow came out.
Not sure if I should brush the complaint off or change the layout... and think twice about what I'm putting in my journaling from now on.
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Post by honeypea on Sept 10, 2023 20:19:53 GMT
My 16yo daughter would be equally snippy about that journaling. 😂 However, I think in the long run, with some more maturity and self-reflection, and less self-consciousness, that sort of perfectly honest and accurate journaling will be appreciated. 💛
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Post by dewryce on Sept 10, 2023 20:20:48 GMT
I don’t scrap for many other people, especially anyone younger whose feelings I might hurt. So, my answer wouldn’t necessarily be the same if I did. But for me and DH, I’m completely honest. I’ve even planned many layouts that will be downright depressing for most to read. But, it’s our life, ya know?
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Post by joblackford on Sept 10, 2023 21:13:41 GMT
I don't have kids but I kind of remember being one and I think if it wasn't this, it would be something else. Was she feeling down on herself and looking for proof that everyone agreed? I think this says more about her feeling crappy than about anything to do with you. Has she been holding onto this hurt since 2019 and misremembered what you said? And what you said was true, right? You were proud of her regardless of whether she won or not and you celebrated something lovely. If you hadn't made the page at all would she accuse you of only celebrating winning? I think it's just teenager stuff, maybe it's about something bigger or maybe not. I don't think you can win. Changing the layout isn't going to fix it if she remembers it differently than it is anyway. I don't think you should change anything but maybe she is asking for more input on layouts about her. IDK.
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on Sept 11, 2023 1:08:06 GMT
My journaling is always honest but if something can be implied vs. spelled out, I tend to imply if it might be something sensitive. I scrapbooked the day my oldest came out to me but I didn't say directly that that's what happened; instead I scrapbooked it with a rainbow color scheme and said I loved them exactly the way they are.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Sept 11, 2023 4:23:42 GMT
Perceiving and interpretation of words, are up to the reader.
Since your Daughter said something, it's likely been bothering her for years since you wrote it in 2019. Your Daughter has obviously perceived your words, to be an insult and criticism towards her, not good enough. Even if it was not intentional on your part.
I would re-do the journaling, as well as apologize. In her tween, teenage(and likely future young adult mind), leaving it as is....will mean in her mind that you intended to insult her, that you think she was-is not good enough.....even though it was not your intention. No matter how much you try to explain to her, she will see and understand it....as she sees it >> insulting and criticism.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 11, 2023 18:05:03 GMT
not so much not honest but not detailed. for that reason, i kept "journaling" limited to just titles. i basically keep my thoughts to myself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 4:18:34 GMT
In my previous scrapbooks I focused my journaling on the positive aspects of a story. Nowadays my scrapbooks blend the line between scrapbook and journal and I’m much more honest and authentic in my journaling. I think that’s a good thing.
I also tend to journal about how I feel about the event rather than report the who, what, why, of events. For instance, if the child I’m scrapping about got 2nd place I’d include the ribbon, picture of the plaque, or put the details on a journaling card. This way the info is there for reference and I can focus on my feelings about being there to witness their participation.
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breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Sept 13, 2023 13:40:13 GMT
I went ahead and changed it. I glued new journaling strips over the old ones. I changed it to if she had run at a different time (not speed) she would have missed the rainbow... I was working a different page about dd yesterday and it really made me think twice about what I was writing though... Maybe I will scrap about my other less offendable children for a while
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Post by scrappyem on Sept 13, 2023 14:10:05 GMT
For what it's worth, I would have changed the layout too if she was upset. Feels like the right call and hopefully you both will have a chuckle over it when she's in her 20's.
I tend to scrap more of from a happy bent but do occasionally include hard stuff that's about me but I'm more likely to include that in my OLW album or somewhere else than in our family album. Before I got remarried, I did whatever I felt like in my albums. But I also think good to have some hard stuff in albums too. Not everyday is the best day ever and not every kid gets first place, at least not all the time.
Good luck figuring it out. Parenting is can be tough, especially the tween and teen years. Hugs.
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Post by sarahsprettypapers on Sept 13, 2023 18:00:38 GMT
Mine is honest, in a humorous way. In our wedding album, I call my husband out for offering me the tiniest piece of cake during the reception/cake cutting in the journaling. I asked him to put more on the fork before he fed it to me! 😁
Next time you are journaling on a layout about your daughter, show her the photo you are working with and ask about the experience. Use her words when you begin journaling or ask her to write a quick sentence herself. My kids like to help think of titles or offer input on layouts about themselves, maybe she will too.
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Post by marg on Sept 13, 2023 18:28:46 GMT
I've started asking my husband and son to help me with my journalling because they remember things better than I do. So I ask them for details and feelings and then I write it.
I used to treat my scrapbook journalling as kind of a diary of my thoughts and feelings but I've since stopped. It turns out that my family doesn't want to read that stuff, and neither do I. I was too long-winded, and tried too hard. My son read some of the stuff I wrote when he was younger and was surprised and not thrilled about some of my feelings about parenting and daily life.
So, I focus on details of the day or event so everyone can recall their own feelings about it when they read it. I also don't write anything negative because I will never, ever have a problem remembering bad stuff and hard times, so I'd like to reflect on and remember the good stuff instead. Like a gratitude journal. So, that's my philosophy now. Do I want an anxious pit in my stomach from re-reading an old scrapbook page? No.
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Post by breakfastattiffanys on Sept 13, 2023 19:27:11 GMT
When my dd was 12ish, she made a withering, snarky remark as only a preteen can do so well. I can’t remember the exact words, but she felt I was making up things in the journaling. But I think it was because I only captured the highlights (it was a Christmas page IIRC), and did not talk about whatever went wrong. I laugh about it now and totally agree that although my journaling may be “faux” honest, in the end, it makes a more pleasurable trip down memory lane.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 13, 2023 21:24:43 GMT
I'm not weighing in on the journaling. I'm weighing in on your parenting. And if *that* was on her list of grievances, you are doing a phenomenal job as a mother!
One of my oldest daughters favorite grievances when she's pissed is to say I didn't give her enough allowance money when she was 14. I pat myself on the back every time. Because if she really feels like an extra $10 a week would have improved her life that much more, then I know I did a good job if that's the absolute worst of it.
I know it's all relative. My perspective looks different because I was emotionally and physically abused as a kid and my kids were not. So these things, I know they might have stung but now my daughter is 23 but I'm happy to report there seems to be no lasting damage. Hopefully in ten years, hindsight will give your daughter a new perspective too.
Parenting is not for the weak. ❤️
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Post by lynn0117 on Sept 13, 2023 22:59:56 GMT
I’ve thought about this a lot lately but from a different perspective because 2023 has been a weird time for me. I’ve quit project life but I still want to document my life. During this time that I’ve quit PL, I’ve been keeping a journal. I like how honest I am in the journal. Moving forward, I’m wanting to do a planner, journal, photo album scrapbook - meaning everything will be in one book. Will I be concerned about others reading my honest words? Yes. But at the end of the day, this is for ME.
Are you scrapbooking for yourself or your family? If it is for others, then you have to take their feelings into consideration. If it is for yourself then you are free to choose what you want.
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Post by gizzy on Sept 13, 2023 23:55:58 GMT
I'm glad you went back and changed it for her. It may have jostled against her image of herself. At that age, it's hard to tell.
My journaling about myself is honest. About my family, not so much. I figured that our family scrapbooks aren't the place to list faults or shortcomings. That doesn't mean that I pump sunshine out, though. Something like her race, I'd just put something generic like she enjoyed the race and look! A cool rainbow.
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Post by blemon on Sept 14, 2023 17:44:19 GMT
It has been good to read this thread. My DD is 15 and wow. You just never know with teens. They could laugh at something or be in tears for hours.
So glad I'm not alone.
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Post by marg on Sept 15, 2023 0:31:06 GMT
You just never know with teens. They could laugh at something or be in tears for hours. And it could be about the same thing, just on a different day!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 2:04:01 GMT
Are you scrapbooking for yourself or your family? If it is for others, then you have to take their feelings into consideration. If it is for yourself then you are free to choose what you want. This is a really good point. Nowadays I scrap for myself. Others make appearances in my albums but the album isn’t for them and I don’t get many people flipping through my albums to view them. My journaling was much different when my layouts were intended for someone else to be the recipient of the album.
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