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Post by iowgirl on Oct 26, 2023 18:57:46 GMT
I own firearms, and I am not keen on super restrictive gun control.... BUT - these type of cases should not be happening. There is no doubt he should have not had any firearms, and any that he had should have been removed.
But that said, I don't know if it would have stopped him. My mind always goes back to a young man I knew that killed two women and then himself. He had been involuntary committed a couple years before this event, but I think the time limit on that for possessing guns was over, but I am honestly not sure of the facts on that... but personally I think his family should have never allowed him access to firearms. And they did supply him with the shotgun that was the weapon used. Hunting was the excuse. He loved to hunt... the family loves to hunt... so there was 'no reason' to not allow him access to his shotgun. Oh my god. It makes me both incredibly sad and somewhat furious to this day. One of the families of the two young women did sue, and it was dismissed. I just don't understand that. I am guessing the family of the young man had more money for a better attorney.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 26, 2023 19:27:43 GMT
When the shooter was taken from the military base in NYS, he had told them he was hear voices, but more importantly he stated he wanted to shot soldiers at his 'home' base in Maine!! When he was released from the hospital to return to 'home' base, had they been advised about his threats to shoot other soldiers? Or did The 'home' get the info and drop the ball on followups? ...
Wasn't there a case of a military man, Air Force I think, who had issues(maybe domestic violence) in Arizona, before he moved to Texas and he killed people in Texas because the Air Force had not passed on the info?
Everyone has certain responsibilities to protect others if they can!
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 26, 2023 20:43:28 GMT
I own firearms, and I am not keen on super restrictive gun control.... BUT - these type of cases should not be happening. There is no doubt he should have not had any firearms, and any that he had should have been removed. But that said, I don't know if it would have stopped him. My mind always goes back to a young man I knew that killed two women and then himself. He had been involuntary committed a couple years before this event, but I think the time limit on that for possessing guns was over, but I am honestly not sure of the facts on that... but personally I think his family should have never allowed him access to firearms. And they did supply him with the shotgun that was the weapon used. Hunting was the excuse. He loved to hunt... the family loves to hunt... so there was 'no reason' to not allow him access to his shotgun. Oh my god. It makes me both incredibly sad and somewhat furious to this day. One of the families of the two young women did sue, and it was dismissed. I just don't understand that. I am guessing the family of the young man had more money for a better attorney. Just because laws might not have prevented this particular situation does not mean that we shouldn't try to pass reasonable gun safety laws. Gun safety laws do work. They may not prevent every mass shooting, but they do save lives. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 26, 2023 22:12:24 GMT
I think he may be dead. Killed himself someplace that they won't find him until he starts stinking. Hope so anyway.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 26, 2023 22:15:13 GMT
I think he may be dead. Killed himself someplace that they won't find him until he starts stinking. Hope so anyway. He needs to be found ASAP for the peace of mind for the survivers. Would make it easier for everyone. |
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 26, 2023 23:00:41 GMT
I own firearms, and I am not keen on super restrictive gun control.... BUT - these type of cases should not be happening. There is no doubt he should have not had any firearms, and any that he had should have been removed. But that said, I don't know if it would have stopped him. My mind always goes back to a young man I knew that killed two women and then himself. He had been involuntary committed a couple years before this event, but I think the time limit on that for possessing guns was over, but I am honestly not sure of the facts on that... but personally I think his family should have never allowed him access to firearms. And they did supply him with the shotgun that was the weapon used. Hunting was the excuse. He loved to hunt... the family loves to hunt... so there was 'no reason' to not allow him access to his shotgun. Oh my god. It makes me both incredibly sad and somewhat furious to this day. One of the families of the two young women did sue, and it was dismissed. I just don't understand that. I am guessing the family of the young man had more money for a better attorney. We need to do something. No one needs an AR-15. There should be stricter laws in place. We are the only country that this keeps happening to. |
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 27, 2023 0:04:35 GMT
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Post by edie3 on Oct 27, 2023 0:16:39 GMT
e-mails to my congresspeople Every time there is a mass shooting or a shooting close to my area, I have been emailing my congressperson. I have sent too many emails. I have only had 2 replies, where she said my opinion was "duly" noted. And for reference, she is the woman who yelled at that reporter to shut up. Second amendment rights are fine but not freedom of speech? link |
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Post by finsup on Oct 27, 2023 2:50:07 GMT
There is another thread about this where peas have the residents of this small town in thoughts. That’s fine but it’s not going to do a damn thing. It’s certainly not helping the dead. That’s callous. What is your thread doing besides giving you yet another opportunity to endlessly quote Twitter and spout off into the ether without actively engaging with others here? As someone who lived in Lewiston and has many loved ones in the area I appreciated pantsonfire and the other peas on her thread for expressing their caring so I guess her thread did do a damn thing. It looks like those of us in Maine will be spending another sleepless night as the shooter remains at large. Perhaps it has happened because there are just.so.damn.many, but I can’t recall another mass shooting where the suspect wasn’t dead or apprehended shortly after. |
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 27, 2023 3:43:25 GMT
There is another thread about this where peas have the residents of this small town in thoughts. That’s fine but it’s not going to do a damn thing. It’s certainly not helping the dead. That’s callous. What is your thread doing besides giving you yet another opportunity to endlessly quote Twitter and spout off into the ether without actively engaging with others here? As someone who lived in Lewiston and has many loved ones in the area I appreciated pantsonfire and the other peas on her thread for expressing their caring so I guess her thread did do a damn thing. It looks like those of us in Maine will be spending another sleepless night as the shooter remains at large. Perhaps it has happened because there are just.so.damn.many, but I can’t recall another mass shooting where the suspect wasn’t dead or apprehended shortly after. It’s not callous it’s being truthful. What exactly are “thoughts and prayers” going to do for those folks killed yesterday? Bring them back to life? What comfort are “thoughts and prayers” going to do for the love ones of those killed yesterday? To be brutally honest not much. But what we can do for those who have died and their loved ones is to stop these shootings from happening. But yet all we do is keep these people in our thoughts or prayers which does nothing. I’m sick and tired of innocent people being killed by some angry white guy with an AR-15 that doesn’t even belong on our streets And all that is done is to offer thoughts and prayers. Thevnew Speaker of the House response was to pray away the evil. Oh and he said we are in a crisis so we shouldn’t talk about any type of legislation now. Silly me, I’m thinking if one is in a crisis, one should take steps needed to get out of said crisis. And I saw where there have been 563 mass shootings this year alone. I would think that would be crisis that We The People should address to stop it from happening again and again. But yet all that is offered are thoughts and prayers. And in the meantime more people will die. I’m sorry it happened in an area where you once lived and until the guy is caught the unease you are feeling in Maine. But the reality is it can and will continue to happen at any place and at any time until we care enough to stop it. And I have been asking myself since Sandy Hook when will that be. |
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Post by finsup on Oct 27, 2023 4:11:06 GMT
That’s callous. What is your thread doing besides giving you yet another opportunity to endlessly quote Twitter and spout off into the ether without actively engaging with others here? As someone who lived in Lewiston and has many loved ones in the area I appreciated pantsonfire and the other peas on her thread for expressing their caring so I guess her thread did do a damn thing. It looks like those of us in Maine will be spending another sleepless night as the shooter remains at large. Perhaps it has happened because there are just.so.damn.many, but I can’t recall another mass shooting where the suspect wasn’t dead or apprehended shortly after. It’s not callous it’s being truthful. What exactly are “thoughts and prayers” going to do for those folks killed yesterday? Bring them back to life? What comfort are “thoughts and prayers” going to do for the love ones of those killed yesterday? To be brutally honest not much. But what we can do for those who have died and their loved ones is to stop these shootings from happening. But yet all we do is keep these people in our thoughts or prayers which does nothing. I’m sick and tired of innocent people being killed by some angry white guy with an AR-15 that doesn’t even belong on our streets And all that is done is to offer thoughts and prayers. Thevnew Speaker of the House response was to pray away the evil. Oh and he said we are in a crisis so we shouldn’t talk about any type of legislation now. Silly me, I’m thinking if one is in a crisis, one should take steps needed to get out of said crisis. And I saw where there have been 563 mass shootings this year alone. I would think that would be crisis that We The People should address to stop it from happening again and again. But yet all that is offered are thoughts and prayers. And in the meantime more people will die. I’m sorry it happened in an area where you once lived and until the guy is caught the unease you are feeling in Maine. But the reality is it can and will continue to happen at any place and at any time until we care enough to stop it. And I have been asking myself since Sandy Hook when will that be. Jeezus, I should know better. I’m disengaging as the great Meredith Marks RHSLC says. Deuces! |
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Post by peasapie on Oct 27, 2023 9:41:58 GMT
That’s callous. What is your thread doing besides giving you yet another opportunity to endlessly quote Twitter and spout off into the ether without actively engaging with others here? As someone who lived in Lewiston and has many loved ones in the area I appreciated pantsonfire and the other peas on her thread for expressing their caring so I guess her thread did do a damn thing. It looks like those of us in Maine will be spending another sleepless night as the shooter remains at large. Perhaps it has happened because there are just.so.damn.many, but I can’t recall another mass shooting where the suspect wasn’t dead or apprehended shortly after. It’s not callous it’s being truthful. What exactly are “thoughts and prayers” going to do for those folks killed yesterday? Bring them back to life? What comfort are “thoughts and prayers” going to do for the love ones of those killed yesterday? To be brutally honest not much. But what we can do for those who have died and their loved ones is to stop these shootings from happening. But yet all we do is keep these people in our thoughts or prayers which does nothing. I’m sick and tired of innocent people being killed by some angry white guy with an AR-15 that doesn’t even belong on our streets And all that is done is to offer thoughts and prayers. Thevnew Speaker of the House response was to pray away the evil. Oh and he said we are in a crisis so we shouldn’t talk about any type of legislation now. Silly me, I’m thinking if one is in a crisis, one should take steps needed to get out of said crisis. And I saw where there have been 563 mass shootings this year alone. I would think that would be crisis that We The People should address to stop it from happening again and again. But yet all that is offered are thoughts and prayers. And in the meantime more people will die. I’m sorry it happened in an area where you once lived and until the guy is caught the unease you are feeling in Maine. But the reality is it can and will continue to happen at any place and at any time until we care enough to stop it. And I have been asking myself since Sandy Hook when will that be. So what are you doing about it? |
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Post by huskergal on Oct 27, 2023 17:03:49 GMT
I want to ask Republican lawmakers this question since they are "pro life". Let's say a shooter takes his AR15 to a hospital and shoots and kills 20 babies in the nursery. After all those children were killed at Sandy Hook, they didn't care. The right to own weapons is more valuable than the right of those children to live. Where do they draw the line?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 27, 2023 17:15:41 GMT
The more of us who are killed the happier the GOP is! Their pro-life ends after their pro-birth is accomplished. huskergal |
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Post by dawnnikol on Oct 27, 2023 18:23:37 GMT
Where do they draw the line? The line is their pocketbooks. |
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Post by myshelly on Oct 27, 2023 18:55:56 GMT
That’s callous. What is your thread doing besides giving you yet another opportunity to endlessly quote Twitter and spout off into the ether without actively engaging with others here? As someone who lived in Lewiston and has many loved ones in the area I appreciated pantsonfire and the other peas on her thread for expressing their caring so I guess her thread did do a damn thing. It looks like those of us in Maine will be spending another sleepless night as the shooter remains at large. Perhaps it has happened because there are just.so.damn.many, but I can’t recall another mass shooting where the suspect wasn’t dead or apprehended shortly after. It’s not callous it’s being truthful. What exactly are “thoughts and prayers” going to do for those folks killed yesterday? Bring them back to life? What comfort are “thoughts and prayers” going to do for the love ones of those killed yesterday? To be brutally honest not much. But what we can do for those who have died and their loved ones is to stop these shootings from happening. But yet all we do is keep these people in our thoughts or prayers which does nothing. I’m sick and tired of innocent people being killed by some angry white guy with an AR-15 that doesn’t even belong on our streets And all that is done is to offer thoughts and prayers. Thevnew Speaker of the House response was to pray away the evil. Oh and he said we are in a crisis so we shouldn’t talk about any type of legislation now. Silly me, I’m thinking if one is in a crisis, one should take steps needed to get out of said crisis. And I saw where there have been 563 mass shootings this year alone. I would think that would be crisis that We The People should address to stop it from happening again and again. But yet all that is offered are thoughts and prayers. And in the meantime more people will die. I’m sorry it happened in an area where you once lived and until the guy is caught the unease you are feeling in Maine. But the reality is it can and will continue to happen at any place and at any time until we care enough to stop it. And I have been asking myself since Sandy Hook when will that be. I love that you think copy and pasting tweets is doing more than thoughts and prayers. It’s the same thing, keyboard warrior. |
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 27, 2023 19:09:21 GMT
I want to ask Republican lawmakers this question since they are "pro life". Let's say a shooter takes his AR15 to a hospital and shoots and kills 20 babies in the nursery. After all those children were killed at Sandy Hook, they didn't care. The right to own weapons is more valuable than the right of those children to live. Where do they draw the line? They draw the line when it affects them personally. Which mostly it does not, which is why they can just stand here in Washington and wish thoughts and prayers toward the towns where these shootings happen. I haven't been able to pay much attention to the news today but I'm pretty sure I saw something about the Maine congressman changing his opinion about guns...? or maybe just about assault weapons? But where has he been all this time before his own state was hit? They (the Republicans) obviously don't care about Americans, but when it's in their backyards then suddenly they get serious about it.  |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 27, 2023 21:25:36 GMT
I didn't like the new speaker before his statement about the shooting but I passionately disagree with him. This NRA mentality that guns are not the problem is so completely false. Also, it's never the time for talking legislation because gun violence is a constant crisis, we are always in the aftermath of a mass shooting. There have been 588 mass shootings already this year. That's almost 2 per day. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/27/mike-johnson-sean-hannity/Johnson opened his interview by offering condolences to the victims of the mass killing Wednesday night in Lewiston, Maine, in which at least 18 people died and a massive manhunt for the suspected gunman followed.
“The end of the day, it’s — the problem is the human heart,” Johnson said. “It’s not guns, it’s not the weapons. At the end of the day, we have to protect the right of the citizens to protect themselves and that’s the Second Amendment, and that’s why our party stands so strongly for that.”
Johnson added it was “not the time to be talking legislation” because the crisis was ongoing.
Asked if there was any new gun legislation he would consider, Johnson demurred, saying he had only been in the job for 48 hours.
“We’ll see,” he said, before reiterating he thought it was “not the weapon, it’s the underlying issue.” |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 27, 2023 21:33:54 GMT
I give this Maine Representative credit for admitting he was wrong and changing his position on assault weapons. However, it's really sad that it took a tragedy close to home for him to change his mind. Everyone always thinks it won't happen in their hometown until it does. And as a Democrat, he might have been more pre-disposed to changing his position vs a Republican. www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/us/jared-golden-maine-assault-weapon-ban.html
Representative Jared Golden of Maine, a centrist Democrat, called for a ban on assault weapons Thursday afternoon, reversing a long-held stance after 18 people were killed in a mass shooting in Lewiston.
It was both a remarkable change on a polarizing issue for a politician who has held onto one of the most competitive seats in the House and a familiar response for a person deeply shaken after a mass shooting happened close to home.
Mr. Golden, a Marine Corps veteran, has repeatedly broken with his party to oppose legislation that would ban assault weapons, a policy that Democrats have repeatedly tried and failed to revive in the nearly two decades since it lapsed. Last July, he was one of just five Democrats to oppose such a measure, which has failed to secure enough Republican votes in the Senate.
That position, Mr. Golden said on Thursday, reflected in part “a false confidence that our community was above this, and that we could be in full control, among many other misjudgments.”
“The time has now come for me to take responsibility for this failure,” Mr. Golden said. He asked “for forgiveness and support” from the people of Lewiston and the loved ones of the victims and survivors as he pledged to work toward reviving the ban.
Standing by him at a news conference, Senator Susan Collins, a centrist Republican, declined to back a ban on assault weapons. The senator, who helped negotiate a compromise measure that broke a decades-long stalemate on any legislation aimed at changing the nation’s gun laws last year, instead said lawmakers should look at banning “very high-capacity magazines.”
“There’s always more that can be done,” she said.
Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, one of the most liberal lawmakers in the House, called Mr. Golden’s comments “powerful, brave and moving” on social media.
Yet it is all but guaranteed that a divided Congress will not move on any gun legislation given deeply entrenched conservative opposition to any measure that could be perceived as an infringement of the Second Amendment.
The 2022 compromise law — which expanded the background check process, put aside millions of federal funds toward mental health and the implementation of so-called red-flag laws, among other changes — fell short of the sprawling changes Democrats have demanded. But only 29 Republicans — 15 in the Senate and 14 in the House, many of them since retired or defeated — voted in favor of that bill. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 27, 2023 21:41:14 GMT
Glad he has decided to support gun safety. Sorry it has taken so long.
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 27, 2023 21:52:01 GMT
Who in heavens name thought this was a good idea??
Kyle Griffin…
”Hours before the Maine mass shooting, the Senate approved an amendment that would scale back background check requirements for some veterans and service members with mental health issues. The amendment was authored by Republicans John Kennedy and Jerry Moran.”
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Post by pilcas on Oct 27, 2023 21:59:11 GMT
I want to ask Republican lawmakers this question since they are "pro life". Let's say a shooter takes his AR15 to a hospital and shoots and kills 20 babies in the nursery. After all those children were killed at Sandy Hook, they didn't care. The right to own weapons is more valuable than the right of those children to live. Where do they draw the line? Is it the right to bear arms that they care about or the NRA campaign donations? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 27, 2023 22:21:24 GMT
They are pro-birth, not pro-life!
They want to show off their big guns! Wonder why?
They want the NRA dollars
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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 27, 2023 23:50:04 GMT
I give this Maine Representative credit for admitting he was wrong and changing his position on assault weapons. However, it's really sad that it took a tragedy close to home for him to change his mind. Everyone always thinks it won't happen in their hometown until it does. And as a Democrat, he might have been more pre-disposed to changing his position vs a Republican. www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/us/jared-golden-maine-assault-weapon-ban.html
Representative Jared Golden of Maine, a centrist Democrat, called for a ban on assault weapons Thursday afternoon, reversing a long-held stance after 18 people were killed in a mass shooting in Lewiston.
It was both a remarkable change on a polarizing issue for a politician who has held onto one of the most competitive seats in the House and a familiar response for a person deeply shaken after a mass shooting happened close to home.
Mr. Golden, a Marine Corps veteran, has repeatedly broken with his party to oppose legislation that would ban assault weapons, a policy that Democrats have repeatedly tried and failed to revive in the nearly two decades since it lapsed. Last July, he was one of just five Democrats to oppose such a measure, which has failed to secure enough Republican votes in the Senate.
That position, Mr. Golden said on Thursday, reflected in part “a false confidence that our community was above this, and that we could be in full control, among many other misjudgments.”
“The time has now come for me to take responsibility for this failure,” Mr. Golden said. He asked “for forgiveness and support” from the people of Lewiston and the loved ones of the victims and survivors as he pledged to work toward reviving the ban.
Standing by him at a news conference, Senator Susan Collins, a centrist Republican, declined to back a ban on assault weapons. The senator, who helped negotiate a compromise measure that broke a decades-long stalemate on any legislation aimed at changing the nation’s gun laws last year, instead said lawmakers should look at banning “very high-capacity magazines.”
“There’s always more that can be done,” she said.
Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, one of the most liberal lawmakers in the House, called Mr. Golden’s comments “powerful, brave and moving” on social media.
Yet it is all but guaranteed that a divided Congress will not move on any gun legislation given deeply entrenched conservative opposition to any measure that could be perceived as an infringement of the Second Amendment.
The 2022 compromise law — which expanded the background check process, put aside millions of federal funds toward mental health and the implementation of so-called red-flag laws, among other changes — fell short of the sprawling changes Democrats have demanded. But only 29 Republicans — 15 in the Senate and 14 in the House, many of them since retired or defeated — voted in favor of that bill.I'm not giving him a pass. He only cared bc it happened in his hometown, to people he knew or loved. What about Sandy Hook? What about Ulvalde? What about ______? Those lives meant nothing to him, but only when it matters to him will he change his mind? Disgusting. But I guess if that's what it takes to get him to see the light, that means I have to hope it happens again and again until they all listen.  |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 28, 2023 0:48:35 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 28, 2023 0:53:32 GMT
The rest of the "X"
You can’t ring a doorbell, use a leaf blower, hop in a car, pull down a driveway, bounce a ball, or ask the neighbor to keep it down.
You can’t check out a farmer’s market or pick up a package at the post office or go to a Fourth of July parade, and you certainly can’t send your kids to school without worrying that someone will get shot.
That someone you LOVE will get shot.
Or that YOU will get shot.
This is where we are now.
This is not normal.
This upside down reality is being imposed upon us by those who equate firearms with freedom.
This is anything BUT freedom.
And. This. Is. Not. A. Reality. We. Have. To. Accept.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 28, 2023 0:56:24 GMT
I give this Maine Representative credit for admitting he was wrong and changing his position on assault weapons. However, it's really sad that it took a tragedy close to home for him to change his mind. Everyone always thinks it won't happen in their hometown until it does. And as a Democrat, he might have been more pre-disposed to changing his position vs a Republican. www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/us/jared-golden-maine-assault-weapon-ban.html
Representative Jared Golden of Maine, a centrist Democrat, called for a ban on assault weapons Thursday afternoon, reversing a long-held stance after 18 people were killed in a mass shooting in Lewiston.
It was both a remarkable change on a polarizing issue for a politician who has held onto one of the most competitive seats in the House and a familiar response for a person deeply shaken after a mass shooting happened close to home.
Mr. Golden, a Marine Corps veteran, has repeatedly broken with his party to oppose legislation that would ban assault weapons, a policy that Democrats have repeatedly tried and failed to revive in the nearly two decades since it lapsed. Last July, he was one of just five Democrats to oppose such a measure, which has failed to secure enough Republican votes in the Senate.
That position, Mr. Golden said on Thursday, reflected in part “a false confidence that our community was above this, and that we could be in full control, among many other misjudgments.”
“The time has now come for me to take responsibility for this failure,” Mr. Golden said. He asked “for forgiveness and support” from the people of Lewiston and the loved ones of the victims and survivors as he pledged to work toward reviving the ban.
Standing by him at a news conference, Senator Susan Collins, a centrist Republican, declined to back a ban on assault weapons. The senator, who helped negotiate a compromise measure that broke a decades-long stalemate on any legislation aimed at changing the nation’s gun laws last year, instead said lawmakers should look at banning “very high-capacity magazines.”
“There’s always more that can be done,” she said.
Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, one of the most liberal lawmakers in the House, called Mr. Golden’s comments “powerful, brave and moving” on social media.
Yet it is all but guaranteed that a divided Congress will not move on any gun legislation given deeply entrenched conservative opposition to any measure that could be perceived as an infringement of the Second Amendment.
The 2022 compromise law — which expanded the background check process, put aside millions of federal funds toward mental health and the implementation of so-called red-flag laws, among other changes — fell short of the sprawling changes Democrats have demanded. But only 29 Republicans — 15 in the Senate and 14 in the House, many of them since retired or defeated — voted in favor of that bill.I'm not giving him a pass. He only cared bc it happened in his hometown, to people he knew or loved. What about Sandy Hook? What about Ulvalde? What about ______? Those lives meant nothing to him, but only when it matters to him will he change his mind? Disgusting. But I guess if that's what it takes to get him to see the light, that means I have to hope it happens again and again until they all listen. I'm not giving him a pass either, but it does take courage to stand up, take responsibility and admit you were wrong. He's from a swing district in Maine, including rural areas. He's probably making his re-election harder. Better late than never? There are a lot of Republicans that could learn a lesson from him. Ideally before everyone is affected by gun violence on a personal level. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 28, 2023 0:56:27 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 28, 2023 1:22:07 GMT
Apparently he has been found dead…
Maddow Blog…
”A former Army reservist suspected of killing 18 people in mass shootings in Lewiston, Maine, has been found dead, four senior law enforcement officials tell NBC News."
ABC News…
”BREAKING: Maine shooting suspect Robert Card has been found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, multiple law enforcement sources tell @abc News.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 28, 2023 2:01:42 GMT
Press conference momentarily.
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