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Post by wholarmor on Nov 18, 2023 0:09:09 GMT
Our area was affected by a gas outage last week because some farmer was digging or plowing(still haven't had a straight story on what happened) and a gas pipeline was struck. It affected four fairly big towns and all the little ones around it. It took about 8 or 9 days to get everyone back online. Our college town of about 35k people had our city hall shut down because they run on... gas. It's been talked about in the past that the city should have some back up system, but some city council members and mayor thought it was redundant and not needed.
I'm a Scouter, and realized I needed to be more prepared for emergencies- even though the only thing that we had with gas was our fireplace. I also think the city should be more prepared for emergencies, and I was in awe that WV has a gas outage, and their governor brought in the National Guard to help those with outages. We don't have dedicated warming shelters because we don't have very many homeless people(that number has grown recently).
I'm on the Intersectional Advocacy Coalition, and we are talking about things we can talk to the city about. It's made me curious to see how other cities would respond in an outage like this or others where a lot of people would lose power.
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Post by smasonnc on Nov 18, 2023 0:13:40 GMT
I live in a hurricane area with a nuclear power plant, so we’re pretty prepared.
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Post by lesley on Nov 18, 2023 0:17:28 GMT
I have to say, I have no idea! I guess I’m not on the need to know list. 😄 A few years ago, I remember there was some problem with the water supply in some parts of our town, (pop. circa 30,000) and within an hour, the water company had set up a couple of different bases where they gave out many large bottles of drinking water. I don’t remember any other incidents where emergency preparedness has been an issue.
ETA We are not prone to any extreme weather events, no hurricanes, tornadoes, bush fires, etc. And while we do get lots of rain, the whole town is well above flood levels.
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Post by katlady on Nov 18, 2023 0:55:57 GMT
I assume we are prepared, but stuff still happens. Our major threats are fire and earthquakes. All the cities within the county work with each other during emergencies. I’ve been here for two or three major fires, and then there was the power outage of 2011 which shut down power from Arizona to San Diego. Our local utility was not found to be at fault for that, and power was back up in our county within 12 hours. For fires, local stations plus county and state fire agencies all work together. Messages are sent out, freeways and roads closed if needed, etc. Now, I am sure if we had a blizzard or if we had a hurricane or tornado, no one is prepared!
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Post by monklady123 on Nov 18, 2023 1:02:36 GMT
I don't actually know about my area specifically. But, since we're right across the river from Washington, DC, and neighbors with the Pentagon (our fire department was actually the first on the scene on 9/11 when the plane hit the Pentagon) I suspect everyone who needs to be prepared, is prepared.
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Post by Linda on Nov 18, 2023 1:06:16 GMT
Our area was hit by a hurricane earlier this year - my county not as hard as the one next to us - but I was pretty impressed with the response from both counties. We have county emergency management (team, centre, something) so information flowed pretty well through that - they do phone and email alerts as well as a FB in my county. Power companies and tree companies were both working hard as soon as the winds died down and it was safe to do so. There was lots of grassroots help with people - making meals, distributing necessities, helping with clean-up etc... Restaurants that had power or at least gas for the stovesw were serving meals, water was being distributed, food was being distributed. I know FEMA was involved also. The Walmart in the other county had mobile toilets and showers and washers/dryers set up in their parking lot.
I am in Florida but my county is one of the safest, most inland counties and is typically where the utility trucks stage before the storm and people evacuate TO here - it was really wierd seeing the fairgrounds empty of utility trucks before the storm - they staged them elsewhere because we were in the path (unusually so). I think they handled the hurricane and aftermath well here.
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 18, 2023 1:19:42 GMT
I have to say, I have no idea! I guess I’m not on the need to know list. 😄 A few years ago, I remember there was some problem with the water supply in some parts of our town, (pop. circa 30,000) and within an hour, the water company had set up a couple of different bases where they gave out many large bottles of drinking water. I don’t remember any other incidents where emergency preparedness has been an issue. ETA We are not prone to any extreme weather events, no hurricanes, tornadoes, bush fires, etc. And while we do get lots of rain, the whole town is well above flood levels. Yeah, I am not sure how I would know. We do occasionally get a snow/ice storm that knocks out some electricity in areas for days, and it's definitely possible we'll get a big earthquake at some point.
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Post by natscraps on Nov 18, 2023 2:17:42 GMT
I’d say we’re extremely prepared. We live in an earthquake area and a portion of our city is within the fallout zone of a nuclear power plant. We frequently get heavy lake effect snow storms and at least one major blizzard a year. We have dedicated places within the city if there is widespread emergency that provide shelter, electricity, warm meals if needed. The city has a reverse 9-1-1 system to send out alerts and instructions if needed. Lots of homes have back up generators. We also have county wide emergency plans and mutual aid agreements with surrounding areas. In August we had a tornado outbreak that decimated parts of our city in the middle of the night. A tornado is extremely rare here. Efforts were quickly coordinated and carried out.
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Post by lisae on Nov 18, 2023 2:18:02 GMT
We have an emergency management department right in the middle of town. Our local fire department is an emergency shelter. There has been some flooding in some areas they have responded to. I don't really know. I guess no one knows for sure until some disaster strikes.
That does sound like a long time to get the repairs made.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 18, 2023 3:53:26 GMT
Town is in pretty good shape. Emergency management with fire dept backup, as well as county EM. Others would come in as needed. Citizens not so much. My only problem with Sandy was the power was out four days. PSEG substation was under water. It was October so no heat issues or AC needed. Gas stove. Was able to go out for ice by day two. So food was ok and I could cook.
Now where I am, we have all electric except heat and hot water, not sure if the need some power to work, oops. I would need electric for oxygen at night. I would not be worried for two nights with emergence tanks, but more would be serious.
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Post by ModChick on Nov 18, 2023 5:46:43 GMT
I live in wildfire area so we are pretty prepared for certain emergencies I guess though I think we could do better, this city has a lot to learn from our last big forest fire.
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Post by theshyone on Nov 18, 2023 8:45:06 GMT
We had evacuees from other major events come to my city over the last few years. I’ve been able to watch how plans to help improved every time. Although our city had a major wind event that wiped out power lines and poles in many areas of the city, I think it took a couple weeks to get back power to all areas. Luckily it was June and not in the winter. Although it hit the standardized testing for high school seniors. Some had to be postponed. I’ve seen floods hit the city, and prep didn’t help that situation.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 18, 2023 12:18:45 GMT
Warming shelters have very little to do with homeless people. Warming shelters are for warming people who have no heat for whatever reason ( power outage or whatever ) It’s kind of weird to say you don’t have homeless so you don’t have warming shelters. We don’t have a homeless issue in my town either and yet there are 2 daily warming shelters and 4 more can be added in case of widespread emergencies.
My specific town is probably not terribly well prepared to proceed with day to day activities in an emergency. They are however, well prepared to provide emergency response to any area of town for most emergencies. Going to town hall to file a permit might not happen if the power was out, they do have a generator though so who knows, but emergency response is the main priority for that. So while I might not be able to renew my dog license, they do have the means to respond to an emergency.
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Post by ntsf on Nov 18, 2023 16:18:33 GMT
we have a pretty good emergency system.. but we are earthquake country. after the 1989 earthquake.. we got a lot more prepared. we have the quake out day every October.. we have trained many citizens in basic response and first aid.. many have emergency kits at home. there will always people who are not prepared..
we do a lot of mutual aid, we have emergency control hub, we have two hydrant water systems.. that are always being upgraded.. we are raising our seawall at the cost of $1 billion or more.. the biggest problem is most of our first responders live way out of town.
there is always more to do. schools all have posted emergency plans posted in every classroom.. they often have a stash of food and water..
so personally, we could survive 2-3 weeks or maybe more..I have lots of camping gear and food and water.. and a house that would probably remain standing somewhat in any quake.
our city also has had a strong code upgrade that required all soft story apartments (apartments over garages) to be reinforced.. and there are funds to help homeowners put in earthquake strengthening. we have also just had most hospitals rebuilt to the highest standards and the schools have been upgraded also.
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Post by iowgirl on Nov 18, 2023 18:04:54 GMT
I believe it's a good idea to be prepared yourself, and to not expect help, or at least not help right away, in the event of a disaster.
I recently bought a small supply of dried meals. Not super prepper crazy, but enough to go for over a week and it has a long shelf life. I do have canned and dried foods normally as a part of my pantry. Since I don't live in a town, I normally keep groceries to last no less than a week. I could easily go for many weeks without shopping for anything other than fresh milk and fresh veggies, but the meal plan might be a bit weird. LOL. I do keep a little bit of powdered milk on hand.
We usually have at least 300 gallons of gasohol in a barrel at our house, and usually 500 gallons of road diesel. Probably closer to 500 gallons of both gasohol and red diesel on the farm.
We have a solar panel setup that we can use to pump water if needed. We use that in pastures that do not have any electricity available. It is portable and we move to to wherever we have cows pastured, so we could always pump water, even in the event that tractors could not start.
We have 4 PTO generators that can run our farm and houses. These are BIG generators that are hooked to the PTO shaft of a tractor. All our sites are generator ready - just pull the switch so there is no backfeed and plug in the generator at the pole. We also have a couple smaller sized Honda gas generators that we use if the weather doesn't allow our solar setup to charge.
I have basic first aid, although I would like to beef that up a little better if I can.
We could survive a very long time, if something really terrible ever happened, by hunting, trapping, fishing and foraging, if needed. I am not super prepper crazy. We don't have a bunker. But if it came down to that - we could survive and defend.
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Post by dewryce on Nov 18, 2023 20:38:32 GMT
We don’t really get extreme weather events, or anything like earthquakes or forest fires. We do flood a little with heavy rains, but I don’t think it’s in areas here people live. We don’t really have a homeless population, I’ve seen just a few since 2008 so I have no idea if they have shelters for them with freezes, etc. The only instance I can think of that the city would have needed to get pretty involved is when the power went out off and on for a few days when it was freezing here. Normally our power is fixed within a few hours, but when all of Texas was hit because of sustained record low temps it took 2-3 days to get it fixed IIRC. But as I said, Texas. The help we needed was from power sources outside the state so…
Our town of 20,000 is about to be inundated with over 100,000 people next April for the eclipse and the city council has been working with area businesses for a while and getting out warnings for those of us that live here about getting gas & groceries early and if we leave the house to expect it to take HOURS to get back home.
I’m trying to remember how they handled COVID. Nursing homes had the National Guard come in and help, but I’m not sure if that was the city’s doing. I don’t remember open testing or vaccine events, but we were able to get ours through DH’s nursing home so I don’t remember looking for them either. Masks were mandated, that may have been a state/nationwide thing.
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Post by dewryce on Nov 18, 2023 20:45:56 GMT
I don’t find it weird at all. We almost never freeze, and power has not been out for an extended amount of time since we moved here in 2008. It’s possible we have warming shelters or a plan in place, but I don’t know if they’ve ever been needed for anything other than the Statewide power failure.
eta: I just checked and while our city’s Emergency Management page has good info especially for being prepared personally, it does not list any shelters in the area, for heat (our biggest issue) or cold. For heat is does suggest people spend the day in air conditioned public spaces such as the library if they don’t have working a/c. When I googled for shelters specifically we have an animal and women’s shelter. The other closest are over 20 miles away.
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Post by katlady on Nov 18, 2023 20:59:07 GMT
I’m trying to remember how they handled COVID. Nursing homes had the National Guard come in and help, but I’m not sure if that was the city’s doing. I don’t remember open testing or vaccine events, but we were able to get ours through DH’s nursing home so I don’t remember looking for them either. Masks were mandated, that may have been a state/nationwide thing. Our city/county had extensive covid vaccine and testing events all around the county during the pandemic. There were several drive-through places, plus you could go to the county website and find vaccine clinics and make appointments. When the vaccine first came out, appointments were hard to get, but they got easier to get after the initial rush. We do have winter shelters for the homeless. They usually open about now and then shut down around March or so. We have cooling sites in the summer, but those are not just for homeless people. They are mainly for people who can't get out of the heat in the summer and/or don't have access to A/C.
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Post by Merge on Nov 18, 2023 22:55:05 GMT
The city of Houston is pretty well prepared for our periodic hurricanes and tropical storms. The state of Texas’ electrical grid is a whole other matter. 🙄
One fun thing about living here is that you know that when crap hits the fan, H‑E‑B trucks loaded with food, water, and other supplies will roll into town long before the Red Cross or FEMA gets here.
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Post by wholarmor on Nov 19, 2023 20:49:21 GMT
Warming shelters have very little to do with homeless people. Warming shelters are for warming people who have no heat for whatever reason ( power outage or whatever ) It’s kind of weird to say you don’t have homeless so you don’t have warming shelters. We don’t have a homeless issue in my town either and yet there are 2 daily warming shelters and 4 more can be added in case of widespread emergencies. My specific town is probably not terribly well prepared to proceed with day to day activities in an emergency. They are however, well prepared to provide emergency response to any area of town for most emergencies. Going to town hall to file a permit might not happen if the power was out, they do have a generator though so who knows, but emergency response is the main priority for that. So while I might not be able to renew my dog license, they do have the means to respond to an emergency. Yes, warming shelters should be there for more than cases of homeless, but this is our city's thinking. They didn't want to spend the money for things that would not get used. Around here, we do have very cold winters and very hot summers. A designated cooling/ warming area would be a good thing to have, but they say there are staffing issues or whatnot.
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Post by wholarmor on Nov 19, 2023 20:56:36 GMT
We don’t really get extreme weather events, or anything like earthquakes or forest fires. We do flood a little with heavy rains, but I don’t think it’s in areas here people live. We don’t really have a homeless population, I’ve seen just a few since 2008 so I have no idea if they have shelters for them with freezes, etc. The only instance I can think of that the city would have needed to get pretty involved is when the power went out off and on for a few days when it was freezing here. Normally our power is fixed within a few hours, but when all of Texas was hit because of sustained record low temps it took 2-3 days to get it fixed IIRC. But as I said, Texas. The help we needed was from power sources outside the state so… Our town of 20,000 is about to be inundated with over 100,000 people next April for the eclipse and the city council has been working with area businesses for a while and getting out warnings for those of us that live here about getting gas & groceries early and if we leave the house to expect it to take HOURS to get back home. I’m trying to remember how they handled COVID. Nursing homes had the National Guard come in and help, but I’m not sure if that was the city’s doing. I don’t remember open testing or vaccine events, but we were able to get ours through DH’s nursing home so I don’t remember looking for them either. Masks were mandated, that may have been a state/nationwide thing. Oh yeah, that reminds me. We did get the national guard called in due to us being the #1 covid Hotspot per capita. Students came back to college even though they were told not to, and parties were still happening. Our police were not good about enforcing the covid restrictions, and stuff got out of hand. I think all the national guard helped with was administering covid tests.
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Post by quinlove on Nov 19, 2023 21:24:44 GMT
The city of Houston is pretty well prepared for our periodic hurricanes and tropical storms. The state of Texas’ electrical grid is a whole other matter. 🙄 One fun thing about living here is that you know that when crap hits the fan, H‑E‑B trucks loaded with food, water, and other supplies will roll into town long before the Red Cross or FEMA gets here. Just one more reason why HEB rocks.
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