Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on Nov 25, 2023 17:18:24 GMT
I finally have mediation next week for my medical malpractice suit from 4 years ago. I had a botched hysterectomy and almost died as the surgeon punctured my colon twice. After a long long time of discovery etc., we're finally mediating on Tuesday.
I've never been through a mediation and am really not sure what to expect. Obviously the goal is not to go to trial as it would take a lot longer and my lawyers would end up making more money out of the settlement. They are on a contingency of 40% plus costs so I'd like to see as much of that money as I can.
I'm planning on it taking all day, but any tips that you might have would be welcome!
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Well, we didn't come to an agreement today. The med Mal insurance adjuster was really dictating the settlement and we couldn't get close. The good news is that neither the doctor or I want to go to trial so the mediator is sending out what he thinks a fair settlement would be and my attorneys met with the mediator and opposing counsel after we left and laid it all out. The end result is probably less than what I was hoping for but better than having to go to trial with a 50/50 chance of not getting anything.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 25, 2023 18:04:19 GMT
I have no experience. DH's son and wife had to use mediation for their divorce. Best I understood, a neutral person guides the 2 individuals to a compromise that both can agree to. I had the feeling that if the mediator suggested something the individuals were more likely to agree to it than if the opposing person said it. The attorneys were present for the meeting.
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Post by leeny on Nov 25, 2023 18:53:20 GMT
My parents went to mediation when my father almost died in the hospital two days after weight loss surgery. The case was against the surgeon and the hospital. The hospital was included because their staff did not follow chain of command when there were warning signs of problems before the event. Our experience went like this: The doctor's lawyers were quick to point out that he lost a lot of weight which was the purpose of the surgery. However, our lawyer pointed out that he suffered a brain injury when he lost oxygen when he almost died in the hospital, was in ICU for 3 months, then rehab for one month. His whole personality changed and he lost too much weight. Along with my Mom, I had to testify what I saw before, during and after the episode because I was there when he coded. When we arrived at the mediation we saw one of the doctors who was very kind to us and advocated for us during his 3 month stay in ICU, but at the mediation, it turned out she was on the hospital's side. I can't remember how long the mediation was, but we had depositions here locally and then had to go into San Francisco (where the hospital was located and the mediation took place) several times.
My parents won their case, and did receive some money after the lawyers, private insurance and Medicare were reimbursed for what they paid out.
I wrote down everything I could remember as did the rest of the family so we could recall if needed and be consistent with our answers.
((Hugs)) to you as it will be very emotional I am sure. Please keep us posted.
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Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on Nov 25, 2023 19:13:47 GMT
My parents went to mediation when my father almost died in the hospital two days after weight loss surgery. The case was against the surgeon and the hospital. The hospital was included because their staff did not follow chain of command when there were warning signs of problems before the event. Our experience went like this: The doctor's lawyers were quick to point out that he lost a lot of weight which was the purpose of the surgery. However, our lawyer pointed out that he suffered a brain injury when he lost oxygen when he almost died in the hospital, was in ICU for 3 months, then rehab for one month. His whole personality changed and he lost too much weight. Along with my Mom, I had to testify what I saw before, during and after the episode because I was there when he coded. When we arrived at the mediation we saw one of the doctors who was very kind to us and advocated for us during his 3 month stay in ICU, but at the mediation, it turned out she was on the hospital's side. I can't remember how long the mediation was, but we had depositions here locally and then had to go into San Francisco (where the hospital was located and the mediation took place) several times. My parents won their case, and did receive some money after the lawyers, private insurance and Medicare were reimbursed for what they paid out. I wrote down everything I could remember as did the rest of the family so we could recall if needed and be consistent with our answers. ((Hugs)) to you as it will be very emotional I am sure. Please keep us posted. Thanks so much for sharing your experience. We did the depositions a few months back and that was really scary. They went into more depth with my sister because I have no memory of about the first month and a half so I couldn't answer a lot of their questions. I'm just afraid that they are going to try and lowball me but we'll see once we get in there.
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Post by mikklynn on Nov 26, 2023 2:15:05 GMT
They absolutely will try to lowball you. But, that is what your attorney is there to handle.
I hope you get a fair settlement without too much additional trauma.
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Post by manda on Nov 26, 2023 3:48:43 GMT
I did mediation in a personal injury lawsuit.
The mediator went back and forth between the room I was in and the room with the defendant attorneys. He would come to us and listen to my attorney’s argument about stuff, then go to the other attorneys, and back and forth.
The mediator was pointing out our weaknesses and I expect doing the same for the other side.
We eventually did settle and I was so glad to just be done with all of it.
I hope it all goes smoothly for you.
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Post by Rhondito on Nov 26, 2023 13:57:39 GMT
My parents went to mediation when my father almost died in the hospital two days after weight loss surgery. The case was against the surgeon and the hospital. The hospital was included because their staff did not follow chain of command when there were warning signs of problems before the event. Our experience went like this: The doctor's lawyers were quick to point out that he lost a lot of weight which was the purpose of the surgery. However, our lawyer pointed out that he suffered a brain injury when he lost oxygen when he almost died in the hospital, was in ICU for 3 months, then rehab for one month. His whole personality changed and he lost too much weight. Along with my Mom, I had to testify what I saw before, during and after the episode because I was there when he coded. When we arrived at the mediation we saw one of the doctors who was very kind to us and advocated for us during his 3 month stay in ICU, but at the mediation, it turned out she was on the hospital's side. I can't remember how long the mediation was, but we had depositions here locally and then had to go into San Francisco (where the hospital was located and the mediation took place) several times. My parents won their case, and did receive some money after the lawyers, private insurance and Medicare were reimbursed for what they paid out. I wrote down everything I could remember as did the rest of the family so we could recall if needed and be consistent with our answers. ((Hugs)) to you as it will be very emotional I am sure. Please keep us posted. Thanks so much for sharing your experience. We did the depositions a few months back and that was really scary. They went into more depth with my sister because I have no memory of about the first month and a half so I couldn't answer a lot of their questions. I'm just afraid that they are going to try and lowball me but we'll see once we get in there. Did you post about this before and said your sister was with you in the hospital and took very detailed notes of everything that happened? If so, I can imagine that's been extremely helpful for your case.
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Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on Nov 26, 2023 14:21:47 GMT
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. We did the depositions a few months back and that was really scary. They went into more depth with my sister because I have no memory of about the first month and a half so I couldn't answer a lot of their questions. I'm just afraid that they are going to try and lowball me but we'll see once we get in there. Did you post about this before and said your sister was with you in the hospital and took very detailed notes of everything that happened? If so, I can imagine that's been extremely helpful for your case. Yes! it's been going on for a long time and she did take very detailed notes. I'm hoping that will be really helpful.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 27, 2023 2:26:44 GMT
Mediation was the biggest waste of time and money for my case. I was suing someone and there was a countersuit. since our courts get very clogged, they required one session of mediation to work things out and avoid going to court. Both parties had to split the fees for the mediation and the cost of their attornies being there. The other party wouldn't budge on their suit. I offered a generous compromise just to end both suits. They rejected my compromise. It was a complete waste of a day. A couple of months later, we went to court and I won 100% of my law suit and they completely lost their counter suit. They should have taken my compromise but instead, they got NOTHING.
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Post by Tearisci on Nov 27, 2023 20:03:33 GMT
Mediation was the biggest waste of time and money for my case. I was suing someone and there was a countersuit. since our courts get very clogged, they required one session of mediation to work things out and avoid going to court. Both parties had to split the fees for the mediation and the cost of their attornies being there. The other party wouldn't budge on their suit. I offered a generous compromise just to end both suits. They rejected my compromise. It was a complete waste of a day. A couple of months later, we went to court and I won 100% of my law suit and they completely lost their counter suit. They should have taken my compromise but instead, they got NOTHING. Ugh, that sucks. I've been told that the doctor is coming into mediation willingly to try and settle the suit. I'm really hoping that time and expense wise, that it works out because I'd like to have this behind me and not have to go to court. Of course, I can't concentrate on anything today. Edited to add: Congrats on winning in court! Their loss.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 27, 2023 20:24:58 GMT
If the doctor wants to settle, you should have a successful day with getting to the end of the dispute.
Best of luck to you.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 27, 2023 21:09:59 GMT
Ugh, that sucks. I've been told that the doctor is coming into mediation willingly to try and settle the suit. I'm really hoping that time and expense wise, that it works out because I'd like to have this behind me and not have to go to court. Of course, I can't concentrate on anything today. Edited to add: Congrats on winning in court! Their loss. when i look back on it today (12 years later), i get mad myself for even offering a compromise. by virtue of mediation, i felt compelled to offer the compromise to make the day worthy of the time and money we were spending on it. when the other side got ridiculous, i just stopped and called it a day. f@ck it, let's go to court. and that's what we did.
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Post by supersoda on Nov 27, 2023 21:50:42 GMT
I finally have mediation next week for my medical malpractice suit from 4 years ago. I had a botched hysterectomy and almost died as the surgeon punctured my colon twice. After a long long time of discovery etc., we're finally mediating on Tuesday. I've never been through a mediation and am really not sure what to expect. Obviously the goal is not to go to trial as it would take a lot longer and my lawyers would end up making more money out of the settlement. They are on a contingency of 40% plus costs so I'd like to see as much of that money as I can. I'm planning on it taking all day, but any tips that you might have would be welcome! The point of mediation is compromise, so no one ever really leaves happy, but hopefully you will be satisfied with a resolution outside of court. Has your lawyer talked to you about a reasonable settlement range? You should have some idea of what your claim is worth going in so that you can evaluate any offers you receive. On the flip side, your attorney should talk you to frankly about any weaknesses in your case if you go to trial. The great arguments that attorneys give to the other side reflect the best case scenario and not necessarily reality. Also, are there any limitations on what you can recover. In Texas, medical malpractice claims are capped by statute. I think a lot of attorneys overlook talking to their clients about the emotional toll of going to trial. You will be asked to tell your very emotional and private story in a room full of strangers. That's hard! There is value in not having to do that and all the stress that goes with it. If you're in the US, the doctor's settlement will likely be determined by his insurance company. Even if the doctor wants to settle or avoid being put on the stand, he may not have that option if his insurance carrier is opposed. As for the nuts and bolts, you'll spend a lot of time in a room with your lawyer (real or zoom) while the mediator is talking to the other side. Sometimes mediations go straight to talking about money. Others want to give you a chance to emotionally vent. And others might be the lawyers arguing about technical legal aspects of your case. There are a lot of different ways it can go. I hope you have a productive day that ends with a good result for you!
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Post by Tearisci on Nov 27, 2023 23:17:27 GMT
I finally have mediation next week for my medical malpractice suit from 4 years ago. I had a botched hysterectomy and almost died as the surgeon punctured my colon twice. After a long long time of discovery etc., we're finally mediating on Tuesday. I've never been through a mediation and am really not sure what to expect. Obviously the goal is not to go to trial as it would take a lot longer and my lawyers would end up making more money out of the settlement. They are on a contingency of 40% plus costs so I'd like to see as much of that money as I can. I'm planning on it taking all day, but any tips that you might have would be welcome! The point of mediation is compromise, so no one ever really leaves happy, but hopefully you will be satisfied with a resolution outside of court. Has your lawyer talked to you about a reasonable settlement range? You should have some idea of what your claim is worth going in so that you can evaluate any offers you receive. On the flip side, your attorney should talk you to frankly about any weaknesses in your case if you go to trial. The great arguments that attorneys give to the other side reflect the best case scenario and not necessarily reality. Also, are there any limitations on what you can recover. In Texas, medical malpractice claims are capped by statute. I think a lot of attorneys overlook talking to their clients about the emotional toll of going to trial. You will be asked to tell your very emotional and private story in a room full of strangers. That's hard! There is value in not having to do that and all the stress that goes with it. If you're in the US, the doctor's settlement will likely be determined by his insurance company. Even if the doctor wants to settle or avoid being put on the stand, he may not have that option if his insurance carrier is opposed. As for the nuts and bolts, you'll spend a lot of time in a room with your lawyer (real or zoom) while the mediator is talking to the other side. Sometimes mediations go straight to talking about money. Others want to give you a chance to emotionally vent. And others might be the lawyers arguing about technical legal aspects of your case. There are a lot of different ways it can go. I hope you have a productive day that ends with a good result for you! Wow, great info and lots to think about. I talked to my attorney today and we went over a settlement plan so I at least have an idea of the monetary plan. And you are right, in TX the cap is $250k for pain and suffering. I really don't want this to go to trial so I'm willing to negotiate. If we go to trial, my expense will go up even more and that money just goes to the attorneys. Tomorrow for the mediation, the doctor, insurance rep and attorney will all be present. We may do a short meeting at the beginning to go over the plan and then we'll go to our individual rooms. I'm kind of nervous about seeing the doctor. I haven't seen or talked to him since I was in the hospital a few years ago. I'll keep my poker face on and be cordial.
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Post by malibou on Nov 28, 2023 13:01:40 GMT
Pain and suffering is a $250,000 max. What else did your atty sue for? Is there a post from you relating the details of what happened? You ended up with 2 perfs, who discovered this, what was the Drs response to that discovery? Did he at any time claim this was not his fault? Were other Drs brought in to fix the damage? These are things that would fall under punitive damages, and his mal practice insurance won't cover that, that is money the Dr has to actually pay. It also looks like gross negligence, and you can't buy insurance for doing bad things, so that would come from the dr. Were you employed before your surgery with an expectation that you would return to your job? If so you are also looking at lost wages for your ICU stay and however long after that that you were in hospital. If you work, have you had to work less hours, or are their aspects of your job you can no longer perform? This also relates to lost wages and future lost wages. That is money that his malpractice insurance would cover and is not related to the pain and suffering cap.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there isn't just the $250,000 on the table. There is a good possibility of it being a lot more. Has your atty talked to you about all of these things? It sounds like your atty should have filed for pain and suffering, punitive damages and lost wages.
I hope I made enough sense for you to ask some questions of your atty.
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Post by KelleeM on Nov 28, 2023 13:55:39 GMT
Tearisci thinking of you today and hoping things go well for you!
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Post by Tearisci on Nov 29, 2023 0:19:07 GMT
Update in the OP. Thanks so much for all of your replies. It definitely helped today.
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Post by cionweest on Nov 19, 2024 14:22:55 GMT
I’m glad you’re getting closer to some resolution, even if it’s not perfect. I went through mediation myself a couple of years back for a medical issue (not as serious as yours, but still stressful), and the process is definitely a rollercoaster. My biggest tip would be to stay as calm and grounded as possible, which is tough, I know. Mediation can feel like a chess match with so many moving parts. It’s good to hear that both sides are open to avoiding trial—it's emotionally draining, and the outcomes can be unpredictable.
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Post by Zee on Nov 19, 2024 16:57:23 GMT
AI is getting pretty good... The bots almost sound believable.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 19, 2024 17:17:41 GMT
I’m glad you’re getting closer to some resolution, even if it’s not perfect. I went through mediation myself a couple of years back for a medical issue (not as serious as yours, but still stressful), and the process is definitely a rollercoaster. My biggest tip would be to stay as calm and grounded as possible, which is tough, I know. Mediation can feel like a chess match with so many moving parts. It’s good to hear that both sides are open to avoiding trial—it's emotionally draining, and the outcomes can be unpredictable. This sure reads like an AI post, IMO.
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 19, 2024 17:40:09 GMT
Tearisci - The whole thing from beginning to end sounds horrible. You're showing a good attitude in a situation where you have been (and continue to be) treated poorly. Life's just like that sometimes, with periods of deep suck, and your attitude can make all the difference in how you move forward once it resolves. Have you recovered your health since the surgery?
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 19, 2024 17:51:28 GMT
The doctor's lawyers were quick to point out that he lost a lot of weight which was the purpose of the surgery. They should have taken my compromise but instead, they got NOTHING. when i look back on it today (12 years later), i get mad myself for even offering a compromise. by virtue of mediation, i felt compelled to offer the compromise to make the day worthy of the time and money we were spending on it. when the other side got ridiculous, i just stopped and called it a day. f@ck it, let's go to court. and that's what we did. It's good to see someone come out on the right side.
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