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Post by zztop11 on Dec 3, 2023 18:21:39 GMT
Usually I never make a cake from a mix. (The home economist in me says no.) But I did so much cooking at Thanksgiving that I'm giving myself a break. Making a cake for a surprise little baby shower. Had to use 2 mixes. The boxes are 3 ounces less than they were a few years ago. Didn't totally use the 2nd mix but most of it is in there. Such a shame. I mean two box mixes are still very cheap but just like the way of ice cream, soap and other items the price has gone up in what I think is a deceitful way. Did you know they got smaller?
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 3, 2023 18:25:07 GMT
I don't remember the original size, but my 9 x 13 pan used to be filled with baked cake up to the top in years past. Now I always think the frosting is so low. Would probably bake better in a 9 x 9 pan.
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Post by Ryann on Dec 3, 2023 18:28:49 GMT
That’s shrinkflation for you. The prices have increased but there’s less in the box. I remember doing the same math a few years ago, but with Jell-o boxes.
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Post by Just T on Dec 3, 2023 18:32:35 GMT
I've heard that. What a crock. I also heard the ingredients to make the cakes weren't adjusted, so how will they even turn out?? I hate that so many companies are sneaky about changing the sizes of things, and STILL raising the prices. It can really mess with all kinds of recipes.
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Post by Rhondito on Dec 3, 2023 18:36:18 GMT
YES! I saw someone else warning people about this a few weeks ago.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Dec 3, 2023 18:49:51 GMT
What size pants do they tell you to use now they must have adjusted the cooking time if not the pan size correct?
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Post by lucyg on Dec 3, 2023 19:06:17 GMT
Yes, I know about it. They still seem to work okay, even in older recipes that call for a box of cake mix and a bunch of other things. I really don’t get it.
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Post by kate on Dec 3, 2023 19:30:46 GMT
I don't make cakes often enough to have noticed, but I am annoyed/disappointed nonetheless.
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Post by littlemama on Dec 3, 2023 20:48:11 GMT
They used to be 18.5 oz, then a few years ago went to 15.25, I think. Now, Ive heard they are even smaller.
It is so annoying. Keep the size the same and just charge more. Same for canned broth and tomatoes. Just give me 16 oz. Ill pay for it. Instead the reduce size and raise price at the same time.
I only make one cake using a cake mix and I'm not sure how I'd even do it now. It's a bundt cake, so it would look really stupid if the pan werent full.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Dec 3, 2023 21:08:46 GMT
I've heard that. What a crock. I also heard the ingredients to make the cakes weren't adjusted, so how will they even turn out?? I hate that so many companies are sneaky about changing the sizes of things, and STILL raising the prices. It can really mess with all kinds of recipes. I also just saw a TikTok on this, apparently, a cupcake baker said her cupcakes weren't coming out the same, or not making as many, and she realized they changed the amount of mix in the box. She said they (I think it was Better Crocker) must have figured out how much mix they could get away with without changing the amount of eggs or oil or whatever, which I think would have tipped more people off. So now she buys a box and adds a couple of oz to another box to get it back up to what it was before. Such bullshit.
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Post by cakediva on Dec 3, 2023 21:18:16 GMT
Yep - it has been that way since pre-covid. There's a popular cake recipe a lot of cake people use that is a doctored mix - you add a few things to it. But then they changed the size of the box and it didn't work right. Same price, less mix in the box. Folks were pissed!
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Post by Gem Girl on Dec 3, 2023 21:22:36 GMT
They used to be 18.5 oz, then a few years ago went to 15.25, I think. Now, Ive heard they are even smaller. It is so annoying. Keep the size the same and just charge more. Same for canned broth and tomatoes. Just give me 16 oz. Ill pay for it. Instead the reduce size and raise price at the same time. I only make one cake using a cake mix and I'm not sure how I'd even do it now. It's a bundt cake, so it would look really stupid if the pan werent full. That's what my DH says. I tell him that the companies do market research, which tells them (although they may be asking the wrong question or asking it the wrong way) that people "Will not pay more than [blank] for {item}." If they phrased it differently, i.e., "We all see that prices have gone up for everything. Would you be willing to pay a little more to keep the {product} the same size and quality?" they might be surprised. This technique of shrinking just ticks people off, especially with food (How do you plan/budget/shop for meals? And if one cake mix box makes a cake only 2 inches tall, people should know that!).
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Post by Scrapper100 on Dec 3, 2023 21:51:43 GMT
I noticed it a few years ago when making cupcakes it didn’t make the full 24.
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Post by snyder on Dec 3, 2023 22:09:35 GMT
I didn't realize this, but I'm not a baker, so its not something that would have jumpbed out at me. I ddin't notice the front of a strawberry cake mix and it was showing one layer cake and I thought that was odd, but now I know why! And now it dawned on me about a peach cobbler my mom makes with a cake mix. About 6 months ago, she had made one and it was sitting on her kitchen counter and I asked her what happened to it as it was about half the height in a 9x13 baking dish. She said nothing and I'm like, didn't it use to come all the way to the top? Probably so, but not now with so much less cake. Awful!
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Post by zztop11 on Dec 3, 2023 22:12:05 GMT
"I also just saw a TikTok on this, apparently, a cupcake baker said her cupcakes weren't coming out the same, or not making as many, and she realized they changed the amount of mix in the box. She said they (I think it was Better Crocker) must have figured out how much mix they could get away with without changing the amount of eggs or oil or whatever, which I think would have tipped more people off. So now she buys a box and adds a couple of oz to another box to get it back up to what it was before."
I was also thinking about this. The fact that the other ingredients stayed the same. But what we don't know is. . . did they change the proportions of any of the dry ingredients that they are adding less of?
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Post by Merge on Dec 3, 2023 22:50:47 GMT
Another reason to bake/cook from scratch. Takes only a little longer and gives consistent size/results.
As long as people keep buying processed products with less value than before, companies will keep making them that way. And given what we’ve learned recently about price-fixing from various suppliers, I don’t think for a moment that they need to do that to make a reasonable profit. Corporate profits have skyrocketed.
A five pound bag of flour still weighs five pounds. So does a four pound bag of sugar. And I don’t notice that the prices of those have increased much.
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Post by GiantsFan on Dec 3, 2023 23:54:18 GMT
I have a recipe that uses a boxed mix. A few years ago I started having to add extra flour to make the topping portion. W-S Pumpkin BarsI use the Trader Joe's Pumpkin Butter. It's good with Apple Butter too.
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Post by chaosisapony on Dec 4, 2023 0:10:27 GMT
I made brownies for Thanksgiving and I used 2 boxes of Ghirardelli mix. Usually those two boxes would give me 12 brownies (I have a pan with deep individual wells for brownies). This year I got 10 full size, could have done 11 if I'd made them all a little smaller. I was so disappointed. Cakes and frosting I'll generally make from scratch since they aren't hard but I have yet to meet a brownie recipe that comes out as nice as a box mix.
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Post by mimima on Dec 4, 2023 0:13:20 GMT
What size pants do they tell you to use now they must have adjusted the cooking time if not the pan size correct? Now you only have to go up 1/2 size instead of a full size when you eat the full cake by yourself.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 4, 2023 1:54:35 GMT
The shrinkage of products has messed with some of my old tried and true recipes. I have learned to really check the weight or volume of a product to make sure it is what I need for the recipe.
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Post by Merge on Dec 4, 2023 2:00:47 GMT
I made brownies for Thanksgiving and I used 2 boxes of Ghirardelli mix. Usually those two boxes would give me 12 brownies (I have a pan with deep individual wells for brownies). This year I got 10 full size, could have done 11 if I'd made them all a little smaller. I was so disappointed. Cakes and frosting I'll generally make from scratch since they aren't hard but I have yet to meet a brownie recipe that comes out as nice as a box mix. www.twopeasandtheirpod.com/one-bowl-brownie-recipe/My go-to. Be sure not to overbake.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 4, 2023 2:43:01 GMT
They used to be 18.5 oz, then a few years ago went to 15.25, I think. Now, Ive heard they are even smaller.It is so annoying. Keep the size the same and just charge more. Same for canned broth and tomatoes. Just give me 16 oz. Ill pay for it. Instead the reduce size and raise price at the same time. I only make one cake using a cake mix and I'm not sure how I'd even do it now. It's a bundt cake, so it would look really stupid if the pan werent full. This. They shrunk to 15.25 oz a number of years ago, way before Covid. Just recently I noticed they are even smaller now, some are as much as two additional ounces less! It really is annoying. I bake a lot and I’ll say that for whatever reason, vanilla cake is so hard to get right from scratch. Mine almost always end up too dense. Chocolate cake from scratch I can do but I haven’t yet found a vanilla cake recipe that comes out as light and fluffy as a box mix cake. Now having said all that, I tried yet again to make a vanilla layer cake for a work project. The recipe I used said it would yield a three layer, 8” cake so I did that vs. buying two mixes. Yeah, NO. I had the pans all greased and lined with parchment, measured out the batter and there was no way I was getting three 8” layers out of that recipe! I quickly greased up and lined three 6” pans, scooped the batter into them and had to bake the hell out of it for it to be done in the middle (in hindsight, I should have used a heating rod in the center of each layer) but in the end it was a pretty height and looked good which was the main goal for what I needed to do. It tasted okay but wasn’t amazing. Next time I’ll just use two boxes of mix.
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Post by iowgirl on Dec 4, 2023 15:22:53 GMT
So many things are doing this!
I noticed the Betty Crocker brownie mix shrunk down years ago. I switched to Ghirardelli. Not that it is a bigger size, but they are so much better.
I make Caramel corn with Puff Corn - love the Chester's Puff Corn. It used to be $2/bag. Then I noticed the size got smaller, and messed up my ratio of popcorn, since i was just dumping in a bag, not measuring the amount. Now the price is $2.69 and still smaller. Geeze.
Also - if you use butter in baking and things are not turning out right - they are adding more water to the butter sticks. Costco and other store brands are the worst. So far, for me, LandOLakes is still working and others say KerryGold is good. You pay for it though!
Crisco changed a while back. I think it was to do with saturated fats, etc. But it is more watery or something. It doesn't work in recipes like it used to.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 4, 2023 16:00:01 GMT
So many things are doing this! I noticed the Betty Crocker brownie mix shrunk down years ago. I switched to Ghirardelli. Not that it is a bigger size, but they are so much better. I make Caramel corn with Puff Corn - love the Chester's Puff Corn. It used to be $2/bag. Then I noticed the size got smaller, and messed up my ratio of popcorn, since i was just dumping in a bag, not measuring the amount. Now the price is $2.69 and still smaller. Geeze. Also - if you use butter in baking and things are not turning out right - they are adding more water to the butter sticks. Costco and other store brands are the worst. So far, for me, LandOLakes is still working and others say KerryGold is good. You pay for it though! Crisco changed a while back. I think it was to do with saturated fats, etc. But it is more watery or something. It doesn't work in recipes like it used to. I’ll second (or third?) the Ghirardelli brownie mix. Costco sells it in a 6 pack and they’re literally the best brownies ever, so why hassle with scratch? I think they work out best in a 7”x11” pan but that’s an odd size that not many people have. I hear what you’re saying on the butter, but I use Costco butter all the time and haven’t had any issues with it at all, so maybe that’s regional? If you look on the inside wrapper it shows the plant number where it was manufactured down on one corner and people in some of my other baking groups noticed that a lot of different brands of butter all come from the same plant.
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Post by iowgirl on Dec 4, 2023 16:42:19 GMT
I’ll second (or third?) the Ghirardelli brownie mix. Costco sells it in a 6 pack and they’re literally the best brownies ever, so why hassle with scratch? I think they work out best in a 7”x11” pan but that’s an odd size that not many people have. I always bake mine in cupcake size. I use the parchment tulip papers. I can still get 12 out of a box, but they are smaller, but that's usually OK. If I want a bigger/taller brownie, I cut it down to 9 or 10, but I have to watch the bake time. I love having brownies this way, and the tulip parchment papers peel easy and look nice. I just let totally cool, then store in a tupperware or a gallon zip bag. Once the brownies have been in the container for a short time, that parchement paper peels right off with very little residue left. So handy to serve that way too! I hear what you’re saying on the butter, but I use Costco butter all the time and haven’t had any issues with it at all, so maybe that’s regional? If you look on the inside wrapper it shows the plant number where it was manufactured down on one corner and people in some of my other baking groups noticed that a lot of different brands of butter all come from the same plant. That's an interesting thought! I know I like to stick with a certain dairy for my milk, sour cream, chip dip, etc. - but they don't make butter. AE Dairy, they have THE best chip dips! LOL And THE best chocolate milk in the land. I really wish they made butter.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Dec 4, 2023 16:45:30 GMT
So many things are doing this! I noticed the Betty Crocker brownie mix shrunk down years ago. I switched to Ghirardelli. Not that it is a bigger size, but they are so much better. I make Caramel corn with Puff Corn - love the Chester's Puff Corn. It used to be $2/bag. Then I noticed the size got smaller, and messed up my ratio of popcorn, since i was just dumping in a bag, not measuring the amount. Now the price is $2.69 and still smaller. Geeze. Also - if you use butter in baking and things are not turning out right - they are adding more water to the butter sticks. Costco and other store brands are the worst. So far, for me, LandOLakes is still working and others say KerryGold is good. You pay for it though! Crisco changed a while back. I think it was to do with saturated fats, etc. But it is more watery or something. It doesn't work in recipes like it used to. I’ll second (or third?) the Ghirardelli brownie mix. Costco sells it in a 6 pack and they’re literally the best brownies ever, so why hassle with scratch? I think they work out best in a 7”x11” pan but that’s an odd size that not many people have. I hear what you’re saying on the butter, but I use Costco butter all the time and haven’t had any issues with it at all, so maybe that’s regional? If you look on the inside wrapper it shows the plant number where it was manufactured down on one corner and people in some of my other baking groups noticed that a lot of different brands of butter all come from the same plant. I also just watched a girl on tiktok go thru this butter problem bc the Costco butter would NOT whip into buttercream! ive never seen such wild comments over BUTTER lol
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 4, 2023 17:13:13 GMT
I also just watched a girl on tiktok go thru this butter problem bc the Costco butter would NOT whip into buttercream! ive never seen such wild comments over BUTTER lol That’s really weird. I don’t do buttercream all that often but made some this summer when my friend was showing me how to make macarons. We used Costco butter to make the buttercream filling and it whipped up just fine. 🤷🏻♀️ And people really do go nuts when for whatever reason something just doesn’t work out. It’s almost never attributed to operator error, LOL.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Dec 4, 2023 17:31:17 GMT
So many things are doing this! I noticed the Betty Crocker brownie mix shrunk down years ago. I switched to Ghirardelli. Not that it is a bigger size, but they are so much better. I make Caramel corn with Puff Corn - love the Chester's Puff Corn. It used to be $2/bag. Then I noticed the size got smaller, and messed up my ratio of popcorn, since i was just dumping in a bag, not measuring the amount. Now the price is $2.69 and still smaller. Geeze. Also - if you use butter in baking and things are not turning out right - they are adding more water to the butter sticks. Costco and other store brands are the worst. So far, for me, LandOLakes is still working and others say KerryGold is good. You pay for it though! Crisco changed a while back. I think it was to do with saturated fats, etc. But it is more watery or something. It doesn't work in recipes like it used to. Maybe this explains why all my crusts are oily. How do you compensate for it?
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Post by lurker on Dec 4, 2023 18:16:28 GMT
Not much of a baker but I notice downsizing every time I buy what used to be a half-gallon of Braum's ice cream which is now only three pints.
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