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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 4, 2023 15:30:11 GMT
Every year around December, I get the electronic die-cutting machine itch. And every year, after watching videos and reading reviews for a couple of hours, I nope out of the decision. Too many aspects to consider, too big a cost to get wrong (especially as an international customer: so many unresolved issues with companies based in the US for crafty Europeans), too little space to hold yet another "big" tool. I live in a one-bedroom apartment. I share this space. I have to really think a purchase through before I commit, especially one that will not be easy to sell on second-hand. Does anyone have a small, super reliable, easy-to-use and not overly expensive machine to recommend? I want to be able to cut pages that will fit the dimensions of a 6x8 page protector. I'm not interested in making my own stickers or vinyl decals. This is meant to be a paper beast (and possibly foiling) for documenting. I want to upload my own or self-purchased designs first and foremost. I don't want to get locked into a monthly subscription model either. Does anyone own the Cricut Joy by chance? Many thanks to help scratch this itch. I may end up noping out of the purchase (yet again) but at least I feel like I'll have asked the experienced crafters I trust and know...
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Post by Linda on Dec 4, 2023 16:17:40 GMT
I personally wouldn't choose a Cricut at this point - I have a Cricut Expression and use regularly but I wouldn't buy a new Cricut in the future. I would look at a Silhouette - probably a Silhouette Portrait since I scrap smaller pages myself (8.5x11)
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Post by kitbop on Dec 4, 2023 17:00:24 GMT
I am not your resource to answer this question However I am curious about the foiling comment. Are there any electronic machines that foil as well? I thought foiling was limited to the die cut machines that cut actual metal dies - the platinum 6, big shot, gemini idea. If there are electronic machines that will add foil I might be sucked in.
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Post by mom on Dec 4, 2023 18:55:26 GMT
I am not your resource to answer this question However I am curious about the foiling comment. Are there any electronic machines that foil as well? I thought foiling was limited to the die cut machines that cut actual metal dies - the platinum 6, big shot, gemini idea. If there are electronic machines that will add foil I might be sucked in. Yes, you can foil with a silhouette using the WRMK foiling system.
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Post by GiantsFan on Dec 4, 2023 20:38:52 GMT
I love my Silhouette Portrait. The software is easy to use.
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Post by jediannie on Dec 4, 2023 20:53:28 GMT
I also love my Silhouette Portrait. You can foil with it if you have the Foil Quill system from WRMK or Makers or whatever they're called.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 4, 2023 21:39:19 GMT
Thanks so much for the initial input, ladies! I did not realise several of you had a Silhouette Portrait. That would suit my space well. So, you know the drill... Convince me (pretty please). If anyone knows about a good video review of the Portrait that is geared towards scrapbooking, can you please share? I had a look tonight and kept getting either very general reviews that didn't help much or things geared towards general crafting and stickers (apparently, the Portrait needs A LOT of good overhead light to work properly when cutting stickers or something - not that I care). I want to cut large titles and word inserts for DD/PL. I want to cut Paige Evans files. You know, silly basic stuff.
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Post by mom on Dec 4, 2023 21:50:53 GMT
I dont have the portrait, but I love the Cameo. I find Silhouette easy to easy to use + lots of videos online to help you figure things out. Bonus points because so many Peas use the silhouette program and they can be helpful as well.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 4, 2023 22:02:51 GMT
I have a Silhouette Cameo--the second one that came out. It's still going strong a decade later.
The portrait is smaller, but it's still a big machine. Silhouette America's website lists it at: Unit Dimensions: 44.0 cm x 16.3 cm x 12.4 cm. I know that I saw it on Amazon.fr, but when we lived in Belgium, I chose to use my Cameo with a transformer because I already owned the Cameo and a transformer. I never had an issue with 110 vs 220, but of course you would buy a 110 machine. Amazon.fr and .de sells mats and blades as well. I know there's a shop in Antwerp that sells Silhouette machines, so it's possible that there's a shop near you that sells the machine. When we lived in the state of Virginia, there was a quilt shop that sold Silhouette stuff.
I find the software very intuitive and there are lots of resources online to help with design or cutting. Designs are sold in the online shop for about $1 each, but you can buy a monthly subscription that brings that cost down. There's a free cut file available weekly and you can find lots more at other online resources. However, I usually just design my own cut files. There are "buttons" to draw circles, ovals, rectangles, triangles, etc. You can buy additional fonts, but most of my fonts were found for free at online sites like dafont.com. I also do a lot of tracing of logos or clip art for my crafts.
I've not tried the WRMK foil pen, but I do see it on sale frequently.
I will say that I think that there's a learning curve for using a digital die cutter. Patience helps as does trial and error. I still have to look up how to do a trace and cut, but I tend to only use that once or twice a year. And yes, you do need a good light for it. I've had to wait for daylight a few times, although I think the newer models do a lot better than my old machine. A computer with lots of good cache memory is especially helpful, especially when you are designing designs. You need that memory space to cut and paste what you're working on.
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Post by scrappymeg on Dec 4, 2023 23:45:26 GMT
I would recommend the Portrait 3 if you can get it. Mine is a workhorse, and I use it primarily for what you are looking to do - cutting Paige Evans files, titles, etc.
The Joy is super cute and portable, and I know you are not interested in making stickers, but the cutting width can be limiting. The Portrait is bigger, but still lightweight and not hard to tuck away, in my opinion - certainly more so than full 12-inch cutter!
Now would be a good time to get the Portrait 3 since Silhouette just released the Portrait 4 and put the 3 on sale.
That said, I have Cricut and Silhouette machines and I've had positive experiences with both.
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Post by riversong1963 on Dec 5, 2023 0:00:14 GMT
In terms of smaller machines, I have the Silhouette Portrait 2 and the Cricut Joy. I really like them both. I favor the Cricut machines because I find the software easier to use. You can foil with the Joy too. It has a very small footprint and fits nicely into a little case. I use the Portrait mostly for the Pixscan mat to cut out my stamped images. I also use SCAL software with the Portrait 2.
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Post by papersilly on Dec 5, 2023 3:33:32 GMT
I just got the Cricut Joy and I love how compact it is! I have a full size Brother Scan N Cut but I can't keep it on my desk all the time. It's a chore bringing it out and setting up. The Cricut Joy is so light and compact and quick to get going. Most of my cuts are small anyway so the Joy cutting area is fine. If I didn't have the Joy, I might have gotten the Joy Xtra.
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Post by scrapnnana on Dec 5, 2023 14:21:02 GMT
I personally wouldn't choose a Cricut at this point - I have a Cricut Expression and use regularly but I wouldn't buy a new Cricut in the future. I would look at a Silhouette - probably a Silhouette Portrait since I scrap smaller pages myself (8.5x11) I have both the Cricut Expression and Cricut Explore Air 2. There is a world of difference. Not sure if that was a typo, and Explore was meant. The Explore is more comparable to the Silhouette Cameo. I was one of the first to get an electronic cutter, before Cricut ever even came on the market. The first cutters available to crafters were the Wishblade and the Craft Robo. I had the Wishblade, which was similar to the Silhouette Portrait. Electronic cutters have come a long way since then. The opinions regarding the “which is better for YOU, Cricut or Silhouette” debate often comes down to your comfort level with graphics software. If you have used graphics software before buying an electronic cutter, you will probably prefer the capability of the Silhouette software. If you have never used graphics software, then you will probably prefer a Cricut machine, which is far simpler, but also far more limited (IMO). Both companies make excellent machines, but when comparing them, Silhouette software can do far more. Cricut software was designed for those who want simple and easy. Silhouette software is not that hard to learn, but those who are new to graphics software are often intimidated by it. There are plenty of online tutorials for both machines. If you want simple, go with Cricut. If you want more capability, go with Silhouette. That’s the major difference. I own both a Silhouette Cameo 3 and a Cricut Explore Air 2. I prefer my Silhouette, because I prefer the software and the capability it allows me. If you are not familiar with graphics software and don’t have time or inclination to learn, go with Cricut. If you aren’t intimidated by learning new things and want to be able to do more than just basics, go with Silhouette. Also, consider downloading the software for each machine and play with it. You can do anything except actually cut files. See which software fits your needs best before you decide.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 5, 2023 17:49:16 GMT
Thanks for all the extra input, ladies! You are a the crafty gurus I needed for this. 🧙♀️🪄🎱
I've read through all the new replies and my head is still buzzing a bit. But I'm currently leaning towards the Portrait. Alas, I only have the Cricut machines available in store near my home but I'm ok with ordering the Silhouette online.
I really appreciate all the advice, reviews and comparisons you've posted. I'm going to take my time to read through everything again when I'm off work on Thursday and take notes. 📝
This is so exciting! I feel like I might actually jump the gun in January. 😍✨
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 18, 2023 19:32:45 GMT
Bumping this thread as I've narrowed it down to the Silhouette 3 and the brand new 4. Anybody got an opinion? From what I understand, the main differences are the sizes (full US letter format for the 4 but it does mean only being able to use the special Portrait 4 mat) and the repeat button. Did I miss something else?
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Post by scrappymeg on Dec 19, 2023 0:49:14 GMT
If you go with the Portrait 4, it's compatible with Silhouette's new Heat Pen tool which you can use to foil. That looks pretty neat. I got the new Curio 2 and I am excited to use this new tool. It also works with other brands of hot foil, like Spellbinders' glimmer hot foil. I read it's quieter than the 3 as well, but I have not seen it in person, so I can't attest to that.
If you are not interested in either the foiling tool or the electrostatic mat, I would save the money and go with the 3. I love mine and the noise doesn't bother me.
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Post by PaperAngel on Dec 19, 2023 2:53:53 GMT
Bumping this thread as I've narrowed it down to the Silhouette 3 and the brand new 4. Anybody got an opinion? From what I understand, the main differences are the sizes (full US letter format for the 4 but it does mean only being able to use the special Portrait 4 mat) and the repeat button. Did I miss something else? If you are referring to the Silhouette Portrait, see the Product Overview, What's Included, & Tech Specs (bottom of page) for the Portrait 3 & Portrait 4 to compare them. For clarity, the Electrostatic Mat is not required. This optional accessory is an alternative to an adhesive mat only for cutting delicate materials. Therefore, users who don’t (often) cut thin materials won't need to spend the extra $100! HTH.
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