angel97701
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Post by angel97701 on Dec 5, 2023 21:06:02 GMT
Hello 2Peas friends!
I have discovered that in our new home, I am having difficulties with the placement of the master bedroom/bed and the heater for the garage. We obviously did not need the heater in the summer and early fall months. Over the last 2 weeks or so when we have been running the heater in the garage I've been slowly having more tinnitus. I measured the decibels and it is below 65 dBs in our bedroom when the heater is running. The noise HAS awakened me a few times. But the more likely culprit for my tinnitus is the frequency and EMFs of the heater.
Just 2 weeks ago my holistic health practioner tested and found that I am being exposed to more EMF than normal? The suggestion was to put my phone on plane mode at night when sleeping. The alarm will still go off in the morning.
I have order a EMF meter from Amazon.
I am researching the best options for EMF protection in our home, particularly for our bedroom. I may be ultra sensitive to EMF, I've always been one that was able to walk into a classroom full of computers and walk to the one still on because I can hear the hum.
Any peas with experience in this area?
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 5, 2023 21:40:54 GMT
I would encourage you to see an audiologist for your hearing issues. You don't want to mess around with your hearing. For DH, he needed hearing aides that emit a low sound? frequency? that masks the ringing. It was life changing for him.
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Post by agengr2004 on Dec 5, 2023 21:49:30 GMT
Putting your phone in airplane mode won't reduce an electromagnetic field. If you are worried about that, you will need to completely power down the phone. I second the audiologist.
ETA: I also recommend contacting an electrician to have an EMF evaluation.
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Post by Lexica on Dec 5, 2023 22:55:16 GMT
I don’t know anything about being sensitive to emfs, but since you are most bothered by running the heater when in your bedroom, can you either turn off or turn down the heater at night when you are in your bedroom and use an electric blanket instead?
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angel97701
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Post by angel97701 on Dec 6, 2023 0:04:11 GMT
I don’t know anything about being sensitive to emfs, but since you are most bothered by running the heater when in your bedroom, can you either turn off or turn down the heater at night when you are in your bedroom and use an electric blanket instead? The heater is in the garage to heat a 786 sq ft garage in Northern Minnesota. We've thought about turning the heater the garage . . . |
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Post by Lexica on Dec 6, 2023 0:14:10 GMT
I don’t know anything about being sensitive to emfs, but since you are most bothered by running the heater when in your bedroom, can you either turn off or turn down the heater at night when you are in your bedroom and use an electric blanket instead? The heater is in the garage to heat a 786 sq ft garage in Northern Minnesota. We've thought about turning the heater the garage . . . Oh, I see. The heater is to actually heat the garage itself! I thought your home’s main heater was located in the garage. Ignore me. |
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Post by katiekaty on Dec 6, 2023 1:56:34 GMT
Have you thought about changing to a different heate or placing the heater in a different area?
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 6, 2023 2:04:44 GMT
Have you thought about changing to a different heate or placing the heater in a different area? If it’s like ours, it’s an installed unit. We have two separate garages and the heaters hang from the rafters in a corner. To move them, we would need a plumber to move the gas lines and an electrician to rewire. However, that seems very noisy! I wonder if it would work if you framed out and insulated a false/additional wall for that shared wall. Sort of a wall in front of the existing wall. |
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angel97701
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Post by angel97701 on Dec 6, 2023 3:12:40 GMT
Have you thought about changing to a different heate or placing the heater in a different area? If it’s like ours, it’s an installed unit. We have two separate garages and the heaters hang from the rafters in a corner. To move them, we would need a plumber to move the gas lines and an electrician to rewire. However, that seems very noisy! I wonder if it would work if you framed out and insulated a false/additional wall for that shared wall. Sort of a wall in front of the existing wall. Yes, it is an installed unit and hangs in the corner closes to our bedroom . . . I am considering an additional wall along the section that borders our bedroom. There are so many other essential things before that happens. We moved almost 1700 miles, our previous home was on the market for 8 months and did not sell. (Economy, interest rates, and it is a huge property with large home and shops that park up to 12 cars, the horse barn wasn't nice enough for some buyers.) We are not completely moved, DH has been working on his commercial building/shop to move it to our new state. Downsizing by 1500 sq ft. doesn't help either.
I am trying to deal with the frequency ~172 Hz and ~60 Db levels in a way that will not cost a huge amount.
Moved to a much smaller town so not familiar with the specialties available here.
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Post by peasapie on Dec 6, 2023 10:41:57 GMT
Is it possible any other changes in your life may be causing it? I read this: “Antibiotics, aspirin, or other drugs may also cause ear noises. Alcohol, caffeine, or smoking may worsen tinnitus if the person already has it. Sometimes, tinnitus is a sign of high blood pressure, an allergy, or anemia. In rare cases, tinnitus is a sign of a serious problem such as a tumor or aneurysm.”.
Do you only hear the ringing at night or in the bedroom?
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angel97701
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Post by angel97701 on Dec 6, 2023 13:29:28 GMT
Is it possible any other changes in your life may be causing it? I read this: “Antibiotics, aspirin, or other drugs may also cause ear noises. Alcohol, caffeine, or smoking may worsen tinnitus if the person already has it. Sometimes, tinnitus is a sign of high blood pressure, an allergy, or anemia. In rare cases, tinnitus is a sign of a serious problem such as a tumor or aneurysm.”. Do you only hear the ringing at night or in the bedroom? Thank you for your comment.
I hear ringing any time the ambient noise is not loud enough to drown it out. The tinnitus is louder in the morning when I first get up.
The other changes have been homeopathic detox protocol--about 8 weeks. I will check into that to see. The other listed possible causes are not a factor. Low blood pressure, working on holistically reducing allergies, not sure about anemia at this point.
Also have a list of audiologists to contact about an appointment.
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Post by danalz on Dec 6, 2023 14:58:10 GMT
I don’t know anything about being sensitive to emfs, but since you are most bothered by running the heater when in your bedroom, can you either turn off or turn down the heater at night when you are in your bedroom and use an electric blanket instead? The heater is in the garage to heat a 786 sq ft garage in Northern Minnesota. We've thought about turning the heater the garage . . . I've lived in Wisconsin my whole live and never had a heater in my garage. We actually use our garage to keep soda cold in the winter. Is there a specific reason why you need to have the heater in there? |
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Post by grammadee on Dec 6, 2023 15:07:24 GMT
That doesn't sound like fun, angel97701. How warm are you keeping your garage? We have a heating unit in ours, but the thermostat is set for just above freezing (4C), so it cuts in less often. Also, if you are not worried about temps in there going below the freeze mark, can you put a timer on that unit so it only cuts in an hour or so before you need to be out there to start a vehicle? Before you add an additional wall or make any other structural changes, have you tried sleeping somewhere else in the house to see if that helps? It may be a matter of switching bedrooms? |
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Post by dewryce on Dec 6, 2023 16:21:15 GMT
Is it possible any other changes in your life may be causing it? I read this: “Antibiotics, aspirin, or other drugs may also cause ear noises. Alcohol, caffeine, or smoking may worsen tinnitus if the person already has it. Sometimes, tinnitus is a sign of high blood pressure, an allergy, or anemia. In rare cases, tinnitus is a sign of a serious problem such as a tumor or aneurysm.”. Do you only hear the ringing at night or in the bedroom? Thank you for your comment.
I hear ringing any time the ambient noise is not loud enough to drown it out. The tinnitus is louder in the morning when I first get up.
The other changes have been homeopathic detox protocol--about 8 weeks. I will check into that to see. The other listed possible causes are not a factor. Low blood pressure, working on holistically reducing allergies, not sure about anemia at this point.
Also have a list of audiologists to contact about an appointment.
Would a white noise machine help? They have free apps you can download, but that would necessitate your phone being on. |
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angel97701
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Post by angel97701 on Dec 6, 2023 17:15:12 GMT
That doesn't sound like fun, angel97701 . How warm are you keeping your garage? We have a heating unit in ours, but the thermostat is set for just above freezing (4C), so it cuts in less often. Also, if you are not worried about temps in there going below the freeze mark, can you put a timer on that unit so it only cuts in an hour or so before you need to be out there to start a vehicle? Before you add an additional wall or make any other structural changes, have you tried sleeping somewhere else in the house to see if that helps? It may be a matter of switching bedrooms? Thanks Grammadee . . . I can switch for a short term, but the way the house is set up the master and bath are the room we are in right now. Not sure that DH would like me sleeping in another room. Lowering the thermostat is probably the best idea so far.
I've lived in Wisconsin my whole live and never had a heater in my garage. We actually use our garage to keep soda cold in the winter. Is there a specific reason why you need to have the heater in there? We did the same with soda in Oregon. We have the heater set at 50 F. We have exercise equipment in the garage, one is even super stiff at that temp--hydrolic system . My Hybrid Fusion charges better when a bit warmer. But both of those things will take a back seat to my health. Thanks!
Would a white noise machine help? They have free apps you can download, but that would necessitate your phone being on. No sure that it will help the ringing . . . Thanks! |
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Post by kamper on Dec 6, 2023 17:44:31 GMT
I have so many questions.
How did your practitioner establish you were being subjected to more EMF waves? EMF testing on electronic devices is an active test typically done in a copper clad room. I'm not saying you aren't sensitive to EMF. It's been determined that some people are but, it's not an easy thing to test for and again it's an active test (they would need a controlled EMF source).
The only way to shield for EMF waves is metal (ie Faraday cage or shield).
Why does your garage need to be heated? We didn't have one in ours in Colorado.
You mention frequency and decibel levels. This is a measure of sound. Acoustic foam can be used to dampen sound but, it's not perfect. The noise is either the fan and/or the burner. Is there more than one fan speed?
EMF waves do not cause sound. They can act on other things (usually metal with iron)and cause them to emit noise.
I vote for just turning it off.
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Post by scraplette on Dec 6, 2023 19:27:30 GMT
@ angel97701 I also suggest a visit with an audiologist. I had tinnitus like sounds I was attributing to appliances after a move. It made me crazy! My ENT connected me with an audiologist and I learned the pattern was text book meniere’s disease. Luckily I don’t really have vertigo, and after 20 years rarely have the compressor sound. Medication helped in the early years!
Apparently it’s not uncommon to associate the onset of “noises” with a change or an event, like a move.
As far as EMF, a friend is into Grounding/Earthing. She believes a mattress pad, by Earthing Elite, has helped her family.
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Post by dewryce on Dec 6, 2023 20:00:54 GMT
Would a white noise machine help? They have free apps you can download, but that would necessitate your phone being on. No sure that it will help the ringing . . . Thanks! It doesn’t make my ringing go away (I have pulsatile tinnitus) but it does make it so that I don’t notice it for the most part. I use a plain white noise machine and an app with thunderstorm sounds. |
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angel97701
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Post by angel97701 on Dec 7, 2023 14:38:25 GMT
I have so many questions. How did your practitioner establish you were being subjected to more EMF waves? EMF testing on electronic devices is an active test typically done in a copper clad room. I'm not saying you aren't sensitive to EMF. It's been determined that some people are but, it's not an easy thing to test for and again it's an active test (they would need a controlled EMF source).I am getting that feel after doing more research and what 2Peas are saying. The only way to shield for EMF waves is metal (ie Faraday cage or shield). Why does your garage need to be heated? We didn't have one in ours in Colorado.We've decided to turn the heat down, especially at night. We have a refrigerator in the garage as well as other tools, etc like most garages. Our garage was not heated in Oregon, and it hasn't really gotten colder than it did there . . . we've been told it is a mild winter thus far.You mention frequency and decibel levels. This is a measure of sound. Acoustic foam can be used to dampen sound but, it's not perfect. The noise is either the fan and/or the burner. Is there more than one fan speed? EMF waves do not cause sound. They can act on other things (usually metal with iron)and cause them to emit noise. I vote for just turning it off. I am not sure that my practitioner really can determine the source of EMF. The testing was done in her office, looking at cellular levels in my body . . . I am not sure what the name of the test was that was done.
Heater garage? We've decided to turn it down so it won't run at night. Thus far the winter has been mild here according to the locals.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 7, 2023 15:22:38 GMT
I have so many questions. How did your practitioner establish you were being subjected to more EMF waves? EMF testing on electronic devices is an active test typically done in a copper clad room. I'm not saying you aren't sensitive to EMF. It's been determined that some people are but, it's not an easy thing to test for and again it's an active test (they would need a controlled EMF source).I am getting that feel after doing more research and what 2Peas are saying. The only way to shield for EMF waves is metal (ie Faraday cage or shield). Why does your garage need to be heated? We didn't have one in ours in Colorado.We've decided to turn the heat down, especially at night. We have a refrigerator in the garage as well as other tools, etc like most garages. Our garage was not heated in Oregon, and it hasn't really gotten colder than it did there . . . we've been told it is a mild winter thus far.You mention frequency and decibel levels. This is a measure of sound. Acoustic foam can be used to dampen sound but, it's not perfect. The noise is either the fan and/or the burner. Is there more than one fan speed? EMF waves do not cause sound. They can act on other things (usually metal with iron)and cause them to emit noise. I vote for just turning it off. I am not sure that my practitioner really can determine the source of EMF. The testing was done in her office, looking at cellular levels in my body . . . I am not sure what the name of the test was that was done.
Heater garage? We've decided to turn it down so it won't run at night. Thus far the winter has been mild here according to the locals.
You're further north than we are, but it's been very mild! It's supposed to be 50 here in Minneapolis today. In mid December! Last year, it had been snowing for a month straight and we were already running out of places to shovel the snow. Keep snow management in mind when you do get snow! |
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Post by x2mom on Dec 7, 2023 20:41:57 GMT
I am pretty sure EMF cannot be heard. The only way to avoid EMFs is distance. If your bedroom shares a wall with the garage, then place your bed on another wall. I'll be if you distance yourself 5-6 feet or so from the heater, your exposure will be at background levels. Are you very close to large electrical transmission lines? If so, that would be your background levels and no way to reduce those unless you move. The further away, the levels fall, so it's possible part of the house is within a "healthy" range.
edited - even a lamp that is plugged in can produce EMFs. Same with wall light switches, etc. Moving your lamp 1 foot away from your bed will reduce them significantly.
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