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Post by epeanymous on Dec 6, 2023 17:38:32 GMT
I posted about this a few months ago when my inlaws told me they were doing it, but my inlaws sold their summer home and got rid of a lot of the things they had there, including their family photo albums, which they told us they would send to us. They arrived over the weekend, and it's such a mixed bag. On the one hand, I have three healthy moving boxes of photo albums that start in the 1960s and have so many family memories; on the other hand, they are in much worse shape than I thought they would be. They mostly smell like they've been stored somewhere like a shed, they are falling apart (some are held together with duck tape and for some they just aren't fastened anymore at all), and of course most of them are magnetic albums full of fragile, fading photos and the occasional yellowing, impossible-to-remove newspaper clipping (things like engagement and wedding announcements in the newspaper). The photos are mostly in chronological order, and I don't know who some of the people are; my MIL does have some occasional strips of paper on which she has written what the photos depict ("Hawaii 1969", that kind of thing). The photos are different sizes as well.
Where do I even start with this project? It's too much (IMHO) to take to someone else to deal with or to have professionally scanned or whatever, and I want to preserve the photos in some way, but I don't want to have this take over my life. Has anyone tackled something like this before? I'm thankful to have received the albums, but I don't think I realized how much they would have degraded since I last saw them (like 25 years ago).
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Post by janamke on Dec 6, 2023 18:02:08 GMT
I have, it's both an enormous privilege and an overwhelming project. Create dedicated space for this, it is not a project to pull out then put away. Start it when you really have time to work on it, continually for many months.
The first thing I did was tackle the magnetic albums that were destroying photos. Take photos of every page, save them just in case. Then remove the photos, carefully sort and document the pages they came from, any notes or journaling. Smaller page protectors and post it notes will be your friend. I found the Silhouette spatula tool to be SO helpful pulling up photos from old sticky albums. Newspapers will probably need to be scanned and printed, sometimes they are just impossible to remove.
Once you have everything out of the old albums, start making new ones. No right or wrong here. I'm using all 12x12 ring binders. My grandma hand wrote her journaling directly on those magnetic pages. I'm rewriting in my own, after getting the ok from family to do so. I don't adhere the pages, I use photo corners. So many photo corners.
It's a big job, but really worth it! Good luck!
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blemon
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Post by blemon on Dec 6, 2023 18:14:34 GMT
What a gift. Wow.
I have no advice because I have never done anything like this.
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Post by mom on Dec 6, 2023 18:27:34 GMT
Oh wow!! I would do what janamke recommends. Take everything out and sort. Throw away what is too far gone, etc. I'd then start putting them in page protectors like the ones used for Project Life, in a 12x12 album. If you don't want to do albums then I would find the plastic storage containers to store them in. I used some shoe box sized containers to store my parents photos in. I made dividers to divide out decades, etc. I am currently paying to get the best, absolutely must have photos put on a jump drive.
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Post by jenr on Dec 6, 2023 18:35:12 GMT
In addition to everything else suggested, Undu will be your friend in trying to get photos out of the magnetic albums. I've been there.
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Post by Linda on Dec 6, 2023 19:19:12 GMT
btdt - still finishing it up 4 years in (I did have quite a bit more than it sounds like you have).
Take photos of each page - sometimes when trying to identify photos - knowing what photos they were near, helps.
my process was to scan all the photos and clippings - I initially put them in folders by album and added any captions to the file name. I found my Cricut spatula helped encourage stuck photos to come off the pages of those magnetic albums.
Then I went back and labelled each photo with as much info as I could (date, place, names of people) and sorted into roughly chronological order. I used context clues to help label unknown photos - I've also reached out to cousins to help identify photos - some photos I just have a rough date for based on clothing styles but most I've been able to get to at least a year or so.
I'm storing mine in the Iris photo boxes - 16 cases in a bigger case - in chronological order. I've labelled the backs as well as labelling the digital files. I have photos from 1880s-2019...so far I've gotten back to the end of 1969 working backwards - everything is scanned, it's organising and labelling I'm still working on.
I've also uploaded all the scans (and as I organise them, I'm re-uploading the organsied files) to Google Drive and have shared with family members
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Post by Embri on Dec 6, 2023 20:05:33 GMT
In a museum or archive setting, here's how a new incoming accession would be handled:
1. Identify. Attach some kind of organization numbering to the items. Regardless if you plan to recreate the layouts or not, each picture should get a sub number of the original album's ID, such as "4.15.3" (fourth album, page 15, 3rd photo). or "Hawaii.15.3" if all the albums have an obvious theme, a word can be used instead of an album number. Carry through whatever ID system you used to the digital files as well. Consistent documentation will help. If dates, people or locations are known, those should also go on the back.
2. Document the intake. This can be fast for a personal collection, just take a photo of each page/album. The goal here is to get a baseline for the current state of the object, both for condition and components. In the case of a disaster during disassembly - say, dropping a tray of photos - you'll have something to reference to put them back into the order/placement they were originally. Backup this archive somewhere. Make a README.txt for the project, explaining what it is, where it's from, how whatever organization you picked works, etc. Think about what you would have to tell someone who takes over the project and can't talk to you about it - this will save your bacon if you take a break from the task and come back to it later, or end up sharing the job with someone.
3. Condition triage. Normally this would be a full conservation report on each item, but for a personal collection you're just going to want to figure out which items need attention most urgently. Number all your folders/bags/envelopes of parts as you take things apart. Remove any harmful materials, stabilize and place in appropriate storage.
4. Processing. This is the most time consuming long haul part of any project. Break it down into smaller parts (a couple pages) and get into a routine of scanning/documenting/storing. Lots of the peas have offered great advice for the this part already, not much I can offer here!
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Post by joblackford on Dec 6, 2023 20:16:47 GMT
Wow, that sounds like a very overwhelming project. Just remember that anything you do moves the project forward, even if it's just looking for obvious trash in the boxes or flipping through to see what you're dealing with. It's a huge responsibility and could be a real burden if you don't keep it in perspective.
You probably can't save everything, there will be people you can't identify but maybe others can in the future (or you figure it out later once you're more familiar with all the faces), some photos might be trash and no one will come after you if you toss trash photos (blurry scenery, for example), anything you preserve and share will be appreciated by someone in your family now or in the future.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 6, 2023 21:21:00 GMT
I have no advice to offer but it's a big project to tackle.
It sounds like should keep a different space for these photos from your regular scrap nook. Not only to preserve your usual documenting fun but also to keep those scents away from all your paper goods. As others have said, this will be a labour of love that will take time. Focus on what's important to your SO's family and their story. The rest does not need to clutter up your home, your attempt at making a cohesive memory timeline or your mind. It's ok to let go of what's unimportant/unknown.
Kudos to you for taking this on.
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Post by joblackford on Dec 6, 2023 21:31:38 GMT
Also, if you are feeling overwhelmed by the enormity of the task I would avoid any temptation to try to do it all at once or to "pull everything out" or any other kind of KonMari "do it once and do it right!" kind of thinking. Realistically, waiting until you have time and energy to deal with it "properly" is probably a recipe for never getting started (if you're anything like me). It's a huge task taken all together, so break it down into chunks and do what you can a little bit at a time.
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Post by camper65 on Dec 6, 2023 22:23:17 GMT
I'm in the midst of doing the same thing with all the pictures and articles, both in albums and not in albums, from my parents home after we lost dad in 2022 (lost mom in 2015). They are only somewhat organized with some labeled as what they're from, whose family, etc. and so I'm scanning in photos and negatives (using a Wolverine Titan) to organize in folders and the photos are going into 12x12 albums in as an organized fashion as I can, and rearranged if needed later. I haven't even gotten to the albums yet because the photos in those envelopes when you developed photos are enough to deal with first.
As someone else wrote, create a dedicated spot for it to be stored as you work through them. I would suggest you take one book, concentrate on that book and get it done, with taking photos of what's in there, then carefully removing them and scanning them into a computer (make sure to back it up also) and labeling with as much info as you can fit but also you can create a word or text file with any other info with noting the name of the photo above the info that you want to keep. Do one for each folder or subfolder (which even works for you) that you create, for example, a main folder for the year, e.g. 2006 then within that folder create more folders, either events or months or both, and as you scan photos put them into their appropriate folders. It will get easier as you start to do it but it is time consuming.
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Post by epeanymous on Dec 7, 2023 0:09:45 GMT
I have no advice to offer but it's a big project to tackle. It sounds like should keep a different space for these photos from your regular scrap nook. Not only to preserve your usual documenting fun but also to keep those scents away from all your paper goods. As others have said, this will be a labour of love that will take time. Focus on what's important to your SO's family and their story. The rest does not need to clutter up your home, your attempt at making a cohesive memory timeline or your mind. It's ok to let go of what's unimportant/unknown. Kudos to you for taking this on. Oh, the are definitely in administrative detention (an underused closet) right now--they stink!
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Post by epeanymous on Dec 7, 2023 0:13:47 GMT
Wow, that sounds like a very overwhelming project. Just remember that anything you do moves the project forward, even if it's just looking for obvious trash in the boxes or flipping through to see what you're dealing with. It's a huge responsibility and could be a real burden if you don't keep it in perspective. You probably can't save everything, there will be people you can't identify but maybe others can in the future (or you figure it out later once you're more familiar with all the faces), some photos might be trash and no one will come after you if you toss trash photos (blurry scenery, for example), anything you preserve and share will be appreciated by someone in your family now or in the future. I think one of the overwhelming things here is that it isn't my side of the family so I definitely don't know who a number of these people might be. I am hoping dh does because my inlaws and I definitely don't have a let's sit and warmly reminisce type relationship . I am very thankful they sent the photos, though.
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Post by riversong1963 on Dec 7, 2023 11:34:20 GMT
I'm going to be really honest here. First you have to decide if you really want to do this. Is it important to you to preserve all these photos of people you don't even know? Is it important to your husband, and does he even know most of these relatives? It just sounds like an enormous task that will take up a great deal of your time.
I wanted to offer a different perspective. If you do decide to do it, maybe you could start with your husband and his childhood. At least those will be relevant and probably special to him. Whatever you decide, try not to let it take over your life. Good luck.
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Post by grammadee on Dec 7, 2023 15:49:50 GMT
Is there a place you can store these boxes that is not right in your face adding to your feeling of being overwhelmed? If they seem to be already organized by year, put a sticky on the front of each album with the time frame (Christmas 68-summer 72). Put them back into the boxes in order of time and then label the boxes.
When you have time, I would then divide this up album by album. Doesn't matter where you start. These books have been stored for years, another one or two won't matter. If you want to start with your dh's childhood, great. Or your inlaws' wedding?
For the album you choose, start by photographing whole pages, in order, start to finish. If you can, then find a way to have your dh and/or his parents look through those photos and record their comments, which might be simply naming some of those people. But it may involve more extensive memories. Can you post these to a shared photo album like on Flickr and then people can comment wherever they want? If you plan to dismantle that album and do something else with the photos, then put a time limit on it. Otherwise, leave that album up there and start another when you have the energy to photograph the next book.
You may find that your photos of the pages is enough of a record of them, and you can discard the album (or put it into separate box to be disposed of later). But check first if there are notes on the backs of the pictures. Those may need to be photographed separately.
If you can find a way to split this up into small tasks that can be accomplished, hopefully the sense of being steamrolled by it will ease. good luck.
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Post by scrapnnana on Dec 7, 2023 16:29:49 GMT
My sympathies. We recently had a family member bring 4 bank boxes of photos to us. Photos of my husband are in there, so I am thrilled, and my DBIL even scanned them all onto a jump drive. One other advantage I have is that they were stored in a closet, not a shed. They don’t smell weird.
I suggest scanning the photos and/or pages, then figure out where to go from there. That alone is a big project.
If any of the albums include journaling as well as photos, take a photo of the pages with a good camera, preferably mounted on a tripod that will keep the camera or phone completely steady, and preferably with a shutter remote. That would be the fastest and easiest way to preserve them.
Good luck!
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Post by Prenticekid on Dec 7, 2023 17:27:04 GMT
I use the Photomyne app for scanning. Not perfect, but great for bad photos. It even fixes them a bit. It lets you title them and you can put them in albums in the app.
I had to have a come to Jesus meeting with myself over some photos - dating back to the 1800s through the 1980s. Not my blood family, none of them alive, no descendants seem to be actively looking for them on Ancestry, and most not identified. I did a couple of scrapbook layouts to show the lives of my stepfather, his parents and his grandparents. Then I chucked the rest. Well, I'm in the process of chucking them because it is so hard. I discovered through the photos that his mother was into photography and the photos from the 1930s to 1960s are really amazing. Anyway. I also am chucking out the family member photos who are unidentified - we are talking professional photos from the 1800s and early 1900s. I have done what I can to identify them by matching to other photos and family records. I can't even find Ancestry trees with most of the individuals. Some, though I have names, I cannot even connect to my step father's tree. (And I have my own tree to work on!! LOL) So, I am working on letting them go. The photos were in an attic of a house with a roof in disrepair for many years. I tell myself that had they taken care of them better for 100 years or had my step father thought to give them to me when he was still alive and could identify people, it might be worth more effort. I am doing what I can to perserve them for whomever might come across them on Ancestry. I also have a box of his family records that I feel compelled to scan and post to Ancestry.
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Dec 8, 2023 2:08:26 GMT
What a treasure! And a fun (but overwhelming) project!
I got a bunch of family photos back in April. Most weren't in albums though. After thinking about it a while and going through a lot of the photos, I wrote out "rules" for how I'd deal with them. DH thought it was funny, but since I could only work on it on weekends, it did help to have my thoughts down on paper. I reviewed my rules every time I worked on getting them scanned and organized.
Some of my rules were- don't scan or save Christmas card photos of non-family members (unless it was a family friend that my siblings and I all know); don't scan photos of M's kids (unless I want to scrap the nieces and nephews for me)- just send her the pics; no need to scan duplicates, etc.
I divided the photos by decade, then by year/event. Clearly a lot happened in the 1990's- us kids got married and had children, so lots and lots of pictures during that decade! I scanned and saved the photos, uploading them to google albums labeled by decade.
There were a lot of photos I tossed- mostly friends of my (now deceased) parents that my siblings and I don't know. I also mailed out pictures to my siblings once everything was scanned- my brother's elementary/highschool/college/wedding/children pictures to him, etc. If there were duplicates that I knew I'd want to scrap, I kept those.
The photos that are left at my house are in folders by decade so I can scrap them when I want to. Now I'm at the fun stage of stocking up on new papers to scrap those old photos with!
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Post by mehardy on Dec 8, 2023 16:08:11 GMT
I've been working on my husband's parents photos...(lots and lots of photos).
One thing we did was put any photos with people we couldn't identify in a pile. We the asked another family member or two to look at those. If no one knew who it was or it was someone we didn't need to hang on to, it got dumped - either in the trash or put in a pile for someone else.
For photos of other family members we didn't need to keep (we kept some, but we didn't need 2 dozen pictures of so and so's wedding or graduation) we used gift bags and stuck any photos of those portions of the family in their own designated bag. We then gave the bags of photos to a family member who expressed interest in that "group." They could keep them, throw them out, whatever they wanted to do. But it made the amount of pictures we have to deal with more manageable.
We're also working on this project in phases.
1. get everything out of the albums.
2. Sort into keep and donate.
3. regime the donate photos
4. Sort and organize the "keep" photos into subgroups (such as my husband's growing up, his mom's childhood, Mom's side of family, Dad growing up, Dad's side of family etc.)
5. place organized subgroups in album 1 at a time.
We have not done this all at one time. We've been doing this for over 2 years as time permits. I just have a list of what's done and what needs to be done I can pull out when I have time and want to work on it.
Hope this helps.
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 9, 2023 4:33:59 GMT
Lots of good advice. The only thing I think I would start with is what size of container/storage/album do you want to limit the items to go in? Go from there. Keep only what will fit in that amount of space. This could turn into something that takes up too much space and keeps you from keeping what you have already.
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