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Post by morecowbell on Feb 22, 2024 8:02:27 GMT
We've seen numerous people here say they'd vote for Biden in a coma or if he was DEAD. If there was ever any uncertainty that 👆 THIS is a cult, that alone should dispel all doubts. Disclaimer: this point is about cult status, not Trump v. Biden. Haha, I can't speak for everyone, but I really don't think most will vote for a dead Biden because they bow down to him like he's their savior. No one I know wears Biden hats, clothes and fly his flag like he's some king they adore. I know I will vote for ANY dem on the ballot because I WANT THE FACIST CULT to LOSE. I saw this standard applied in only one direction: So applied the same standard in the other direction: "We've seen numerous people here say they'd vote for Biden in a coma or if he was DEAD." If there was ever any uncertainty that 👆 THIS is a cult, that alone should dispel all doubts. No one I know, does any of that with Trump merch either. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 22, 2024 17:36:03 GMT
With the most recent filing to the court TFG is requesting to move the business addresses for at least six of his companies to Florida. Guess what AG James had to say about that?!?! "Nor do Defendants provide any basis for staying enforcement of the judgment; indeed, they requested such relief in their post-trial brief, which the Court declined to grant. Finally, the Court should reject Defendant's attempt to change the business address of six entity Defendants to Florida as the record establishes those entities are located in Trump Tower at 725 5th Avenue in New York, the office building in which the executives who carry out the business activities of those entities work." www.rawstory.com/trump-new-york-fraud-delay/ |
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Post by Merge on Feb 22, 2024 18:29:28 GMT
Exactly. I just can’t imagine wearing a hat or item of clothing with a politicians name in it or flags with anything political. I regular flag yes. It’s their right to do so but I just don’t get the total admiration and god like fawning over him to me that’s sacrilegious 🤦♀️ especially considering how ungodly he is. Flaunting his many wives and boasting about how wonderful he is 🤮 It's beyond ridiculous at this point. I can't believe that people call Biden supporters cultists. Around where I live, I have seen freaking CARS wrapped like Nascar cars with Trumps picture the flag, etc. Entire cars and trucks. I have never seen one of those for Biden. Or Obama. Or George Bush. Or any president ever. To my thinking, that is total cult behavior. We’ve never had a Biden convoy full of trucks with Biden flags on them here in Texas, but for a while there the Trump convoys were pretty common. And don’t forget the Trump boat parades! That’s some weird shit right there. During the election, my blue neighborhood had a fair number of Biden signs in yards. One sign per yard. The few Trump supporters who put out a sign chose to hang giant banners, fly flags, or put a dozen or more Trump signs in their yard. Weird AF. I used to enjoy flipping those houses off as I walked by with my dogs in the hopes that their Ring camera would catch it. 😂 |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 22, 2024 18:55:45 GMT
Exactly. I just can’t imagine wearing a hat or item of clothing with a politicians name in it or flags with anything political. I regular flag yes. It’s their right to do so but I just don’t get the total admiration and god like fawning over him to me that’s sacrilegious 🤦♀️ especially considering how ungodly he is. Flaunting his many wives and boasting about how wonderful he is 🤮 It's beyond ridiculous at this point. I can't believe that people call Biden supporters cultists. Around where I live, I have seen freaking CARS wrapped like Nascar cars with Trumps picture the flag, etc. Entire cars and trucks. I have never seen one of those for Biden. Or Obama. Or George Bush. Or any president ever. To my thinking, that is total cult behavior. This is my thought too. I mean, the most visible things I’ve ever seen prior to Trump would be bumper stickers, yard signs or the occasional panel van parked in a field with a billboard pasted on the side. Maybe someone with a t-shirt. But since Trump it’s just crazy what people will do to show their support for him. And what surprises me even more is just how vulgar some of those displays of support are. I haven’t ever seen anything like that in my lifetime for any other politician of any stripe. |
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 22, 2024 19:01:35 GMT
With the most recent filing to the court TFG is requesting to move the business addresses for at least six of his companies to Florida. Guess what AG James had to say about that?!?! "Nor do Defendants provide any basis for staying enforcement of the judgment; indeed, they requested such relief in their post-trial brief, which the Court declined to grant. Finally, the Court should reject Defendant's attempt to change the business address of six entity Defendants to Florida as the record establishes those entities are located in Trump Tower at 725 5th Avenue in New York, the office building in which the executives who carry out the business activities of those entities work." www.rawstory.com/trump-new-york-fraud-delay/Probably trying to delay the process. Got spooked when James said she’s ready to seize assets if he can’t pay. (I’m betting James has already coordinated with the sheriff’s office so when the clock runs out, the seizure is already mapped out.) I’m just guessing, but I think the Trump camp is having difficulties finding a surety company willing to underwrite that huge bond. Almost half a billion with interest compounding daily? It’s a very huge risk. |
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Post by Just T on Feb 22, 2024 19:12:30 GMT
It's beyond ridiculous at this point. I can't believe that people call Biden supporters cultists. Around where I live, I have seen freaking CARS wrapped like Nascar cars with Trumps picture the flag, etc. Entire cars and trucks. I have never seen one of those for Biden. Or Obama. Or George Bush. Or any president ever. To my thinking, that is total cult behavior. We’ve never had a Biden convoy full of trucks with Biden flags on them here in Texas, but for a while there the Trump convoys were pretty common. And don’t forget the Trump boat parades! That’s some weird shit right there. During the election, my blue neighborhood had a fair number of Biden signs in yards. One sign per yard. The few Trump supporters who put out a sign chose to hang giant banners, fly flags, or put a dozen or more Trump signs in their yard. Weird AF. I used to enjoy flipping those houses off as I walked by with my dogs in the hopes that their Ring camera would catch it. 😂 Yeah, no convoys for Biden here. But I am also in the heart of Trump land unfortunately. It is very common around here to see people wearing MAGA hats, tshirts with Trump's face on them. Giant banners in people's front yards, hanging from their porch, flags in the ground, tons of Let's Go Brandon bumpers stickers, etc. If that's not cult behavior, I don't know what is. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 22, 2024 20:20:23 GMT
Uh oh!! Watch out tonight. Words will come from the big liar!!
In an email to Trump attorney Cliff Robert, Engoron was short.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 22, 2024 21:16:21 GMT
Fulton County... Today Nathan Wade filed a motion with the court to bar his divorce lawyer from testifying... Not even in private with the Judge.. This may tank the case... The Georgia attorney prosecuting former President Donald Trump on election racketeering charges wants to block his divorce lawyer from speaking to the judge tasked with determining if Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis should be yanked from the case, newly reported court records show. Nathan Wade’s motion followed a dramatic evidentiary hearing during which the special prosecutor’s former law partner Terrence Bradley refused to answer questions he said could violate attorney-client privilege. *** “If the Court were now to disregard ‘the most sacred of all legally recognized privileges’ whose ‘preservation is essential to the just and orderly operation of our legal system,’ it would be a step too far,” the prosecutor argued. “The Court should not conduct the examination under any circumstance.” www.rawstory.com/nathan-wade-trump/lizacreates would it help if either one or both resigned? Could the case move forward under those circumstances? |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Feb 23, 2024 0:23:38 GMT
It's beyond ridiculous at this point. I can't believe that people call Biden supporters cultists. Around where I live, I have seen freaking CARS wrapped like Nascar cars with Trumps picture the flag, etc. Entire cars and trucks. I have never seen one of those for Biden. Or Obama. Or George Bush. Or any president ever. To my thinking, that is total cult behavior. This is my thought too. I mean, the most visible things I’ve ever seen prior to Trump would be bumper stickers, yard signs or the occasional panel van parked in a field with a billboard pasted on the side. Maybe someone with a t-shirt. But since Trump it’s just crazy what people will do to show their support for him. And what surprises me even more is just how vulgar some of those displays of support are. I haven’t ever seen anything like that in my lifetime for any other politician of any stripe. I agree. A local business had a roadside stand that would sell Trump and Fuck Biden merch. I periodically see vehicles with Fuck Biden stickers on them. I used to see a truck with a Trump wrap and Trump flags in the back. Jordan Klepper interviews some of the Trump cultists. They go on and on about how wonderful Trump is and how respectful and Christian he is and how much they love that he is a decent human. All while wearing Fuck Biden shirts and Trump hats. It is insane. Absolutely insane how unaware they are. Just like the pea here. She claims never to see this. I live in an incredibly blue state and very blue area. She sees what she wants to see and if it doesn't fit her narrative she dismisses it. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 23, 2024 0:31:57 GMT
We’ve never had a Biden convoy full of trucks with Biden flags on them here in Texas, but for a while there the Trump convoys were pretty common. And don’t forget the Trump boat parades! That’s some weird shit right there. During the election, my blue neighborhood had a fair number of Biden signs in yards. One sign per yard. The few Trump supporters who put out a sign chose to hang giant banners, fly flags, or put a dozen or more Trump signs in their yard. Weird AF. I used to enjoy flipping those houses off as I walked by with my dogs in the hopes that their Ring camera would catch it. 😂 Yeah, no convoys for Biden here. But I am also in the heart of Trump land unfortunately. It is very common around here to see people wearing MAGA hats, tshirts with Trump's face on them. Giant banners in people's front yards, hanging from their porch, flags in the ground, tons of Let's Go Brandon bumpers stickers, etc. If that's not cult behavior, I don't know what is. I’ve never been serenaded with any pro-Biden chants at non-political events, but at a concert a while back women in the bathroom were chanting Let’s Go Brandon. Cult. |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 23, 2024 0:35:20 GMT
It's beyond ridiculous at this point. I can't believe that people call Biden supporters cultists. Around where I live, I have seen freaking CARS wrapped like Nascar cars with Trumps picture the flag, etc. Entire cars and trucks. I have never seen one of those for Biden. Or Obama. Or George Bush. Or any president ever. To my thinking, that is total cult behavior. This is my thought too. I mean, the most visible things I’ve ever seen prior to Trump would be bumper stickers, yard signs or the occasional panel van parked in a field with a billboard pasted on the side. Maybe someone with a t-shirt. But since Trump it’s just crazy what people will do to show their support for him. And what surprises me even more is just how vulgar some of those displays of support are. I haven’t ever seen anything like that in my lifetime for any other politician of any stripe. The only thing I remember seeing was while I still lived at home, my parents has “Ross for Boss” t-shirts. Possibly because they were going door to door or something similar for his campaign. |
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 23, 2024 1:00:16 GMT
Fulton County... Today Nathan Wade filed a motion with the court to bar his divorce lawyer from testifying... Not even in private with the Judge.. This may tank the case... The Georgia attorney prosecuting former President Donald Trump on election racketeering charges wants to block his divorce lawyer from speaking to the judge tasked with determining if Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis should be yanked from the case, newly reported court records show. Nathan Wade’s motion followed a dramatic evidentiary hearing during which the special prosecutor’s former law partner Terrence Bradley refused to answer questions he said could violate attorney-client privilege. *** “If the Court were now to disregard ‘the most sacred of all legally recognized privileges’ whose ‘preservation is essential to the just and orderly operation of our legal system,’ it would be a step too far,” the prosecutor argued. “The Court should not conduct the examination under any circumstance.” www.rawstory.com/nathan-wade-trump/lizacreates would it help if either one or both resigned? Could the case move forward under those circumstances? I agree with Wade that there were too many irrelevant questions during the hearing, and yes, some of them were unnecessarily intrusive. But Bradley proved to be a very problematic witness. I think Wade’s effort is for naught because McAfee wants to get to the bottom of this Bradley mess. I doubt he will cancel the private hearing. We might even end up with Bradley being recalled. IMO, both Willis and Wade should recuse now (they should have recused much earlier before it got this far). We all make mistakes and the occasional bad judgement, but this wasn’t the time to make a mistake. This was the time to be extra vigilant and make sure everyone in the team is above reproach because this isn’t about Joe Shmoe with a dime bag; this is about a former president facing racketeering charges. Other prosecutors on Willis’ team can take over. (John Floyd is actually the RICO expert in that office.) If McAfee decides to disqualify Willis, that means the whole DA’s office is disqualified. That might be the death knell of the case. None of what I said here and prior gives me any joy. But this is the “untouchable case.” The one that Trump cannot make go away even if he wins in Nov. It needs to be saved. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 23, 2024 1:11:37 GMT
Thanks... I was hoping if they both recused, it could still move forward... lizacreates |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 23, 2024 2:34:23 GMT
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 23, 2024 2:47:10 GMT
“I am confident the Appellate Division will protect you.” Lol! That judge is a hoot.
Trump gets a stay as soon as he posts his appeal bond. Didn’t he say he has over $400M in cash? So, pick up the phone and call MBS and borrow the rest. He saved MBS’s ass before when MBS ordered Khashoggi’s murder. Call in the chit, right?
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 23, 2024 2:50:13 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 23, 2024 3:33:14 GMT
Too bad he still hasn't read the President Records Act or total lack of comprehension!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 23, 2024 3:34:40 GMT
Doesn't look like him! More like Liberace. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Feb 23, 2024 4:57:02 GMT
That looks like Ross Matthews. |
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Post by shescrafty on Feb 23, 2024 11:39:48 GMT
Haha, I can't speak for everyone, but I really don't think most will vote for a dead Biden because they bow down to him like he's their savior. No one I know wears Biden hats, clothes and fly his flag like he's some king they adore. I know I will vote for ANY dem on the ballot because I WANT THE FACIST CULT to LOSE. I saw this standard applied in only one direction: So applied the same standard in the other direction: "We've seen numerous people here say they'd vote for Biden in a coma or if he was DEAD." If there was ever any uncertainty that 👆 THIS is a cult, that alone should dispel all doubts. No one I know, does any of that with Trump merch either. I made one of the coma comments. I would not vote just for Biden against TFG I would basically vote for any democratic politician over him. Nothing to do with Biden-I feel like he is old (as is tfg) but at least has had the intelligence to surround himself with people around him that are intelligent and not just worshipping him. So I do not think Biden is the best candidate, but I know trump is horrific. The people he surrounds himself with are awful. He is a grifter and enjoys the cult following he has. I think therein lies the difference. People voting for TFG think he is some sort of saviour. They flock to rallies and wear his idiotic clothing. They put themselves in harm’s way and will do what he encourages them to do, no matter how much it will hurt them and others in the long run (Jan.6) He loves the way that the North Koreans and Russians treat their leaders because he doesn’t care if he leads with fear or actual logic, he just wants followers to blindly praise him. He is a grifter and has convinced a huge chunk of the country that because more people go to his rallies that he gets more votes. And the idiots believe what he says. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 23, 2024 11:40:34 GMT
Tell me how he’s not a cult leader eta - This tweet might not be entirely accurate. He equated his opposition to foreign enemies from WW II. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/22/trump-threats-world-war-ii/“Our country was at war with the enemy, and they wanted to extinguish our way of life forever,” Trump said. He added: “This time, the greatest threat is not from the outside of our country, I really believe this. It’s the people from within our country that are more dangerous. They’re very sick people.” |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 23, 2024 12:39:50 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2024/02/23/us/politics/trump-classified-documents-case.htmlTrump Seeks to Dismiss Classified Documents Case
The former president’s lawyers cited an array of arguments, some of which tested the bounds of credulity or clashed with prior court rulings.
Lawyers for former President Donald J. Trump launched a flurry of attacks on Thursday night against the federal charges accusing him of illegally holding on to classified documents after he left office, filing more than 70 pages of court papers seeking to have the case thrown out.
In four separate motions to dismiss the case, Mr. Trump’s lawyers made a barrage of legal arguments in seeking to circumvent a criminal case that many legal experts consider the most ironclad of the four against him. They attacked the law he is accused of violating, questioned the legality of the special counsel prosecuting him and argued that he is shielded from prosecution by presidential immunity.
Some of the arguments tested the boundaries of credulity and flew in the face of prior court rulings. Many appeared designed to delay the case from moving toward trial, a strategy that Mr. Trump has pursued in all of the criminal proceedings he is facing.
In one of their most brazen motions, Mr. Trump’s lawyers claimed that he was immune from prosecution on the classified documents charges even though a federal appeals court roundly rejected that argument this month when he sought to use it in a separate case, in which he stands accused of plotting to overturn the 2020 election.
Mr. Trump’s claims of immunity have always rested on the theory that he could not be charged for any actions he undertook as president. And his lawyers sought to argue in their motion that he should not be prosecuted for moving dozens of classified records from the White House to Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Florida, because his initial decision to do so was made while he was in power.
But that line of reasoning seemed largely intended to get around the text of the law — the Espionage Act — that prosecutors have accused him of violating. Mr. Trump has been charged specifically with willfully retaining the classified documents, and prosecutors say that his purposeful retention of the records continued for many months after he left office, ending only in August 2022 when F.B.I. agents, executing a search warrant, seized them at Mar-a-Lago.
In a separate motion, Mr. Trump’s lawyers sought to poke holes in different sections of the Espionage Act, saying that certain phrases of the law were “unconstitutionally vague as applied to President Trump.”
The law, for instance, makes it a crime to have “unauthorized possession” of documents “relating to the national defense.”
Mr. Trump’s lawyers appeared to be arguing that presidents were always authorized to be in possession of national security files. They also claimed that the definition of “national defense” records was so broad and ambiguous that no one could possibly know what the phrase meant.
In their third motion, Mr. Trump’s lawyers went after Jack Smith, the special counsel overseeing the two federal cases against Mr. Trump, claiming that he was unlawfully appointed to his post.
The lawyers advanced an untested argument: that under the Constitution, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland should have gotten Senate confirmation for Mr. Smith’s appointment in November 2022. Without that, the lawyers wrote, “Jack Smith lacks the authority to prosecute this action.”
Finally, Mr. Trump’s lawyers filed a motion reprising an argument that they — and their client — have made repeatedly since well before the indictment in the case was returned in June: that under the Presidential Records Act, Mr. Trump had the “unreviewable discretion” to “designate the records at issue as personal,” meaning that the documents were not unauthorized at all, but instead belonged to him.
Legal experts have questioned this expansive interpretation of the Presidential Records Act, saying that the law was put in place after the Watergate scandal for precisely the opposite reason. It was meant to ensure that the U.S. government, not an individual president, has control over most presidential records.
Mr. Trump’s lawyers promised in a court filing earlier this week to file as many as 10 motions to dismiss. But at the last minute, Judge Aileen M. Cannon, who is overseeing the case, granted them a brief delay as they sought permission to file some of the papers partially under seal.
The lawyers sent the partially sealed motions to Judge Cannon privately on Thursday night and could file redacted public versions of them by early next month. Those motions, Mr. Trump’s lawyers said in yet another court filing, will include one seeking to suppress evidence seized during the F.B.I.’s search of Mar-a-Lago and another accusing members of Mr. Smith’s team of prosecutorial misconduct.
The lawyers also plan to release a motion attacking a judge’s ruling from last year permitting prosecutors to pierce the normal protections of attorney-client privilege and compel one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers to provide them with documents and testify in front of a grand jury.
Moreover, the lawyers plan to file redacted papers claiming that prosecutors engaged in a “selective and vindictive” prosecution of Mr. Trump. That motion is likely to accuse Mr. Smith of having unfairly brought the classified documents charges against Mr. Trump even though a separate special counsel, Robert K. Hur, declined this month to indict President Biden for having held on to classified materials after leaving the vice presidency.
Mr. Trump’s lawyers also asked Judge Cannon to hold hearings on five of the motions they have filed — a request that, if granted, could slow the case down considerably. Next Friday, Judge Cannon will hold a separate hearing in Federal District Court in Fort Pierce, Fla., to reconsider the trial date for the case, which is currently set for May 20 but nearly certain to be pushed back.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 23, 2024 14:56:29 GMT
That doesn’t really look like Trump. It looks more like the weird love child of Donald Trump and Lindsay Graham to me! 🤣 |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 23, 2024 16:19:20 GMT
I saw this standard applied in only one direction: So applied the same standard in the other direction: "We've seen numerous people here say they'd vote for Biden in a coma or if he was DEAD." If there was ever any uncertainty that 👆 THIS is a cult, that alone should dispel all doubts. No one I know, does any of that with Trump merch either. I made one of the coma comments. I would not vote just for Biden against TFG I would basically vote for any democratic politician over him. Nothing to do with Biden-I feel like he is old (as is tfg) but at least has had the intelligence to surround himself with people around him that are intelligent and not just worshipping him. So I do not think Biden is the best candidate, but I know trump is horrific. The people he surrounds himself with are awful. He is a grifter and enjoys the cult following he has. I think therein lies the difference. People voting for TFG think he is some sort of saviour. They flock to rallies and wear his idiotic clothing. They put themselves in harm’s way and will do what he encourages them to do, no matter how much it will hurt them and others in the long run (Jan.6) He loves the way that the North Koreans and Russians treat their leaders because he doesn’t care if he leads with fear or actual logic, he just wants followers to blindly praise him. He is a grifter and has convinced a huge chunk of the country that because more people go to his rallies that he gets more votes. And the idiots believe what he says. Same here. I said the same thing because I would vote for anyone that could beat TFG. I wish there was a younger option but there isn’t so I will vote Biden. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 23, 2024 21:37:48 GMT
Georgia case may be tanked... His phone was tracked, there is a letter from AT&T posted. They both may have committed perjury. Defense says cellphone data raises questions about start of Willis-Wade relationship
Thousands of texts between DA and special prosecutor in 2021, court filing says.By Bill Rankin, David Wickert and Tamar Hallerman Updated 1 hour ago Nathan Wade appeared to make at least 35 visits to the Hapeville neighborhood where Fani Willis was living before the district attorney hired him to lead Fulton County’s election interference prosecution, according to cellphone data included in a court submission filed Friday.The filing, by attorneys for Donald Trump, raises fresh questions about the relationship between the two prosecutors, which the former president and other defendants argue has tainted the case against them and should result in Willis and her office being disqualified. Trump’s lawyers relied on data collected from Wade’s cellphone and cellphone tower transmissions which they said tracked his movements. It could contradict Wade’s testimony last week in which he said he had visited Willis at her condo in Hapeville no more than 10 times before he was hired in November 2021. It also indicates Wade twice arrived in the area late at night and left early the next morning in the months before Willis and Wade said their relationship became romantic early in 2022. The filing includes an affidavit from Charles Mittelstadt, a longtime investigator for defense attorneys, who used a subpoena to obtain the data from AT&T, and then used the online tool CellHawk to track Wade's movements. “CellHawk is considered by law enforcement to be the gold standard in cellphone records analytics,” Mittelstadt said. www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-cellphone-data-raise-questions-about-start-of-willis-wade-relationship/SFVMYPTD2RD3HMZYOH3377CNNE/lizacreates. aj2hall |
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Post by Gem Girl on Feb 23, 2024 22:47:52 GMT
Georgia case may be tanked... His phone was tracked, there is a letter from AT&T posted. They both may have committed perjury. I'm not going to assume that ends the case. He could have been in that neighborhood for other reasons. As to the texts, I'd have to see the content. I assume texting between lawyers in the same district is common, as are long workdays. |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 23, 2024 23:45:24 GMT
Tell me how he’s not a cult leader  That is not AT ALL what he said. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 23, 2024 23:57:20 GMT
No, it might be worse. He called Americans who don't support him the greatest threat to our country. He called pro Palestinian supporters "foreign jihadists" www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/22/trump-threats-world-war-ii/Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump further ratcheted up his inflammatory language against Americans who oppose him politically by likening them to the foreign enemies that the United States fought in World War II.In a speech on Thursday to the National Religious Broadcasters in Nashville, the former president drew a direct connection between the battles during that organization’s founding in 1944 and his current campaign to win back the White House.“Our country was at war with the enemy, and they wanted to extinguish our way of life forever,” Trump said. He added: “This time, the greatest threat is not from the outside of our country, I really believe this. It’s the people from within our country that are more dangerous. They’re very sick people.”
Trump has similarly railed against domestic enemies throughout the campaign, including in a speech on Veterans Day when he went so far as to compare his political opponents to “vermin” that he pledged to “root out” — terms that historians said echoed the propaganda of 20th-century dictators.Trump has, on his own terms, promised to exercise power to deliver “retribution” and govern as a “dictator” on “day one” (sometimes claiming he was saying so in jest). In response to concerns about such pronouncements, Trump has started spinning accusations of undermining democracy back on his critics — a tactic that experts in political rhetoric say can be used to confuse or numb voters. On Thursday he called Biden’s actions “evil and a threat to democracy” and vowed to “reclaim our government from these tyrants.”Trump’s speech on Thursday was preceded by a recording of him reciting the Pledge of Allegiance mixed with a rendition of the national anthem by the “J6 Prison Choir,” purporting to be Jan. 6 defendants held in the Washington jail, including some of the most violent offenders convicted of assaulting police. During his remarks, Trump praised their “tremendous spirit” and called them “hostages.”Trump on Thursday pledged to create a new federal task force against “anti-Christian bias” that would investigate “discrimination, harassment and persecution against Christians in America,” according to his prepared remarks. He said any Christian or person of faith who votes for a Democrat is “crazy.”“You cannot let people vote for these people, you cannot let people vote for the Democrats,” he said.Trump repeated a false claim that he removed federal restrictions on religious organizations or other nonprofits from endorsing political candidates. Trump said if reelected he would permanently eliminate the restrictions, known as the Johnson Amendment.The former president also reprised his attacks on pro-Palestinian protesters, calling them “foreign jihadists.” He has previously said he would revoke student visas for protesters and reimpose a ban on travel from Muslim-majority countries.www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/us/politics/trump-national-christian-broadcasters.htmlTrump Frames Election as Battle Against ‘Wicked’ System Bent on Attacking Christians Speaking at a Christian media convention in Nashville, former President Donald J. Trump claimed that a “radical left, corrupt political class” was persecuting Christians. Former President Donald J. Trump often characterizes his presidential campaign as a battle for America’s future. But speaking at a Christian broadcast media convention in Nashville on Thursday, he wrapped that depiction within a stark good-versus-evil framework, portraying his political opponents as part of a “wicked” system.
Mr. Trump also revived his claim that America’s “greatest threat is not from the outside of our country” but “from within,” language that drew alarm last year from experts who saw in it echoes of autocratic leaders.
During Thursday’s speech at the National Religious Broadcasters convention in Nashville, Mr. Trump portrayed the threat as liberals — more specifically, a “radical left, corrupt political class” — whom he broadly cast as intrinsically bent on attacking Christianity.
“Christians, they can’t afford to sit on the sidelines in this fight,” Mr. Trump said. He later added, without offering evidence, that liberals were persecuting Christians because “they know that our allegiance is not to them. Our allegiance is to our country, and our allegiance is to our creator.” (There are many Christians who are Democrats.)
He also repeated a vow to create a federal task force to focus on “anti-Christian” bias. Mr. Trump has tried to appeal to Christian voters by accusing the Biden administration of criminalizing Americans for their faith, though experts have said that many of his claims are baseless or misleading.
But Mr. Trump — who faces 91 felony counts in four criminal cases, including one tied to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election — uses those characterizations to support a larger theme of his campaign: that President Biden and Democrats are severe threats to democracy.
That tendency was on display on Thursday. Before Mr. Trump was introduced, loudspeakers sounded out “Justice for All,” a song featuring the J6 Prison Choir, which is composed of men who were imprisoned for their parts in the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021.
That song — which features the men singing “The Star-Spangled Banner” while Mr. Trump recites the Pledge of Allegiance — is part of a broader effort by Mr. Trump and his supporters to reframe the effort to overturn the 2020 election as an act of patriotism.
During his speech, Mr. Trump referred to the singers as “the J6 hostages,” a term he has repeatedly used to describe those serving sentences in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-portrays-2024-race-christian-battle-akin-d-day-2024-02-23/Feb 22 (Reuters) - Donald Trump urged Christians on Thursday to support him in the 2024 presidential election, a contest he depicted in religious terms and likened to the great battles of World War Two.Speaking at a forum for Christian broadcasters in Nashville, the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination compared the stakes for the election to D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge and said God's involvement was needed to rescue the country. |
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