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Post by aj2hall on Feb 23, 2024 16:43:29 GMT
Oh lookie-a lefty void of curiosity.
The whole world knows Trump had documents. As did Biden. As did Pence.
But damn, don't wonder how a sitting Senator was able to actually steal documents. I mean...did he yell squirrel!!! and then shove them down his pants? Did someone help him? Never mind, he's too old and decrepit to find that out. But hey, good choice for President!
I'm guessing the legendary Lawrence O'Donnell didn't have any info on that.  Biden didn't steal documents, it was a mistake. Is it really hard to believe that in thousands of boxes, there were papers in there by mistake? www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-special-counsel-report-handling-classified-documents/Hur's report says evidence suggests that many of the classified documents recovered by investigators at the Penn Biden Center, in parts of Biden's Delaware home and in his Senate papers at the University of Delaware were retained by "mistake."
www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdfIn January, February, and June 2023, FBI agents identified and recovered just over a dozen marked classified documents in Mr. Biden's Senate-era papers housed at the University of Delaware. Almost all of these documents predate the Senate's establishment of rules for the tracking and handling of classified information. The evidence does not suggest that Mr. Biden willfully retained these documents. Rather, they appear to have been included in his large collection of Senate papers by mistake.
In fall 2014, the Morris Library hired an intern to organize the Biden Senate papers, separate out documents belonging to the Foreign Relations Committee, and re-file the remainder.125:3 In late 2015 or early 2016, the intern discovered, among committee records, one document that was marked classified. 125"1 She placed a sticky note on the document indicating the number of the box in which she found it and the fact it was marked "SecreL"1255
In February 2023, an archivist reviewed the box the intern had flagged, discovered the marked classified document within the box, secured the document in a vault, and reported it to the FBI.1256 Agents retrieved the document that same day.12"7 The classified document is a two-page State Department cable from 1987. marked Secret concerning the NA TO alliance. 1208 A classification review by the State Department determined that the document was declassified in 2012.1259
The evidence does not establish that Mr. Biden or anyone else knowingly removed or retained the classified documents found at the University of Delaware. These documents appear to have been included in his Senate papers by mistake.
First, Mr. Biden depended on staffers to maintain his Senate files, organize and pack them, transport them to the proper place of storage, and review them before they were sent to the University of Delaware. No evidence suggests he knew these classified documents were within his massive collection of Senate papers. Further, given the age of the documents, we found no evidence that Mr. Biden personally viewed any of them while he was a member of the Senate. Mr. Biden sat on the committee that generated these documents, but it is entirely plausible they were handled by a staff member and that Mr. Biden never handled the documents himself before they were filed among his papers. 1.1o9 There is also no record of Mr. Biden's review of the documents before or after he donated them to the University. As a matter of historical context, there have been numerous previous incidents in which marked classified documents have been discovered intermixed with the personal papers of former executive branch officials and members of Congress. 1310
Second, before the Senate papers arrived at the University, Mr. Biden asked two experienced staffers to review them. The staffers knew to segregate documents that were appropriate for the Morris Library gift. They did not identify any classified documents within these materials.
The staffers' failure to do so is likely due, in part, to the small number of classified documents found within a large collection of the Senate papers. Another possible reason is that several of the documents use markings that do not clearly convey their classified nature. Some of the documents are marked "CONFIDENTIAL." While that is a valid marking for classified information, the term "CONFIDENTIAL" is also used in other contexts not involving classified information. Senate staffers could have understood these to be internal committee documents or simply sensitive documents created by authors who wanted to limit the number of
people who viewed them.
Third, the classified documents were found in collections of papers Mr. Biden had either already donated or planned to donate after his staff removed personal and political materials. This suggests neither he nor his staff knew about or wanted to keep the small number of classified documents later found there.
Finally, none of these decades-old documents contains information so obviously sensitive that a jury would find it compelling enough to convict a former president and vice president of mishandling classified information.
For these reasons, it is likely that the few classified found in Mr. Biden's Senate papers were there by mistake. The documents found at the University of Delaware are not a basis for criminal charges. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 23, 2024 18:18:15 GMT
I don't agree with him on everything, but he makes some valid points. And unless something unforeseen happens, it's hard to imagine the election will mostly be about age, given the candidates are only 3 years apart. I realize that perception matters and voters think Biden looks older than Trump. However, when it comes time to vote, I think most Americans will vote based on what is most important to them. www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/22/im-a-republican-strategist-bidens-age-wont-doom-him-00142492Many Republicans seem to think zeroing in on President Joe Biden’s age is the easy path to victory in November. House GOP lawmakers quickly announced a hearing with Special Counsel Robert Hur, where they are sure to highlight his report characterizing the president as an “elderly man with a poor memory.” But Republicans are making a big mistake if they think voters will not reelect a geriatric politician.
As a Republican strategist who has bluntly tried to make the case for generational change against an opposing presidential candidate, I can tell you it doesn’t really work.
Democrats are concerned about fallout from the Hur report, but as I learned the hard way, there is very little evidence that voters actually care about political leaders’ ages. The record is clear, albeit depressing: One is hard pressed to identify a single president, governor or senator who lost reelection because voters thought they were too old. And that’s despite many younger challengers leveling that attack.
In the last midterm elections, voters on both sides of the aisle put little stake in mental acuity: An 89-year-old Republican senator was reelected in Iowa, while a Democratic Senate candidate with serious cognitive health concerns was elected in Pennsylvania. Meanwhile, both our current and previous presidents set age records after beating younger opponents in the primary and general elections.
The truth is that octogenarians and nonagenarians are far more likely to die in office than lose reelection.
In the last midterm elections, voters on both sides of the aisle put little stake in mental acuity: An 89-year-old Republican senator was reelected in Iowa, while a Democratic Senate candidate with serious cognitive health concerns was elected in Pennsylvania. Meanwhile, both our current and previous presidents set age records after beating younger opponents in the primary and general elections.
Why? Because a politician’s personal traits — including age, honesty and fidelity — only become salient campaign issues when they are tied to real-world matters that directly impact voters. In most cases, if elected leaders are advancing policies popular with their constituents, voters are willing to look past personal shortcomings and give them another term.
Republicans’ attacks on Biden’s age are not novel: Elderly candidates frequently face attacks on their age, often couched as a broader pitch for generational change. President Bill Clinton (who won despite his own personal flaws) evoked Bob Dole’s age in 1996 when he promised to build “a bridge to the 21st Century.” But Clinton’s campaign packaged the generational pitch as part of an agenda touting his successful economic record, while also painting Dole as too extreme. (A message that Biden is likely to replicate this year against Donald Trump.)
More often, direct appeals for generational change fall on deaf ears — as I personally discovered working on Marco Rubio’s campaign in 2016. Embracing Rubio’s young age and charisma, our campaign argued that “outdated” politicians could not tackle modern problems. But voters disagreed: Rubio’s youthful appearance ended up being one of his biggest liabilities, which Trump successfully exploited by labeling him “little Marco.”
Nikki Haley, who endorsed Rubio’s 2016 bid, is similarly finding out how hard it is to run against an aging Trump, even one who mixes her up with Nancy Pelosi on the campaign trail.
Despite many Gen X candidates’ eagerness to ascend to power, voters keep rehiring Boomer politicians. President Ronald Reagan’s quip in 1984 about his opponent’s “youth and inexperience” is still effective today.
While conservative media takes delight in tracking Biden’s senior moments, the 77-year-old Trump seems to instinctively understand that it’s not his best line of attack. For example, following the Hur report on the handling of classified documents, Trump’s reaction focused not on Biden’s memory but on the appearance of a double standard in the justice system. While Trump makes light of Biden’s gaffes, his main message focuses on his own personal grievances and issues voters care about, including immigration.
It’s true that voters tell pollsters Biden’s age is a concern, but his fitness for office will only be a major issue if one of two things happen: First, Republicans would have to make a persuasive argument that Biden’s age is hurting average Americans. It’s possible the high number of voters who describe Biden as a “weak leader” could blame his advancing age on mishandling issues they care about. But conservatives’ argument that Biden is too old to effectively implement his own dangerous left-wing policies is an obvious contradiction.
A more likely scenario for how age would keep Biden from a second term would be a high-stakes senior moment that legitimately alarmed voters about Biden’s capacity to fulfill his basic duties as commander-in-chief. This concern explains why Biden’s staff is doing everything they can to shield him from big, unscripted moments like a pregame Super Bowl interview. An existential stumble could indeed come, but Republicans are not in control of their own destiny if they’re relying on that.
The 2024 election will offer voters clear choices on issues that directly impact every American, including tax rates, foreign policy, immigration and abortion. Voters will choose the candidate who best shares their values on those issues — regardless of age. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 23, 2024 20:07:50 GMT
This sums up the differences between the 2 candidates pretty well www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/23/maga-trump-republicans-midterm-voters-newsletter/Some House Republicans are destructive, bordering on nihilistic, because they are following Trump’s lead. And sure enough, Republican primary voters are on the verge of handing the nomination to a man who threatens courts and the FBI, spews fascist “pure” blood language, vows to unleash the Justice Department on his enemies (“I am your vengeance!”) and sabotages bipartisanship when it suits his interests. He still refuses to admit he lost in 2020 — a sign he would not accept defeat this year, either. In a textbook case of toxic narcissism, Trump mentions the death of Russian dissident Alexei Navalny only in connection with his own (self-inflicted) legal problems.
He brags about removing the protection of abortion rights, which upended the lives of millions of women, their families and the medical community. He wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act with no replacement in sight. He wants to split NATO. Chaos, chaos and more chaos.
To top it off, he will be running while sitting through at least one criminal trial — and possibly two. Should he be convicted in one or more and then elected, we will have leaped into a constitutional dumpster fire in which either the will of the voters or the judgment of juries in criminal cases might be sacrificed to satisfy the other. If he loses in November, we can expect a rerun of Jan. 6, 2021. Violence and chaos.
Even Republicans acknowledge the former president’s destructive impulses. Former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley regularly calls Trump out for bringing on chaos. She also declared, “An unhinged president is an unsafe president.” Her audiences understand exactly what she means.
Trump’s maelstrom has yet to reach its apex. He will likely decompose further as his financial situation craters and his criminal cases go from bad to worse. With every temper tantrum on courtroom steps, flurry of insane posts on social media and outburst at a judge, he will remind voters of what they hate — and what they have to fear should he return to the White House.
President Biden gets harangued constantly about his age, but no one seriously thinks he is impulsive, destructive, chaotic, plundering, violent or bent on dismantling our constitutional system. We need not worry that he will try to pardon himself and hundreds of insurrectionists. We know he declines to interfere with the Justice Department, abides by court rulings and respects the military’s apolitical role. He is trying to bolster the international order, not upend it. With age and solid character come stability, calm, competence and, occasionally, wisdom. That is the real contrast between the two. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Feb 23, 2024 22:16:48 GMT
Fewer donations and massive fines to pay. He would never receive a security clearance and a private citizen and should never be trusted with INAL, but I don't believe that fees and penalties imposed by the courts are nullified in bankruptcy. I think he's sorry now that he greedily sucked dry the pockets of his "fans," when now he actually needs it. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Feb 23, 2024 22:21:20 GMT
With every temper tantrum on courtroom steps, flurry of insane posts on social media and outburst at a judge, he will remind voters of what they hate And this is a good thing. In the lapsed time, many may have forgotten how chaotic and awful his reign was. I personally dreaded the "Friday Turd Dump" where his administration tried to slip crud over on the public at the start of the weekend, when they'd be less likely to be wrapped up in the news. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 23, 2024 22:43:54 GMT
Oh lookie-a lefty void of curiosity. The whole world knows Trump had documents. As did Biden. As did Pence.
But damn, don't wonder how a sitting Senator was able to actually steal documents. I mean...did he yell squirrel!!! and then shove them down his pants? Did someone help him? Never mind, he's too old and decrepit to find that out. But hey, good choice for President! I'm guessing the legendary Lawrence O'Donnell didn't have any info on that. At the end of the day, none of that matters because the SC-who served as Maryland US Attorney during the Trump administration- is not charging him. Whereas your boy didn’t send back all of the documents when asked by the National Archives or when served with a subpoena. In fact he had them stowed in a MAL crapper. Which is worse? Timeline of efforts to retrieve documents from MAL: www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indicted-mar-a-lago-documents-investigation-timeline/ |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 23, 2024 23:53:02 GMT
I can not find evidence of that. Do you have a link to that? It took me less than 90 seconds to find this. Be honest you just want to put shit out there with no verifying articles or facts. There is a lot more but you can look it up yourself. AP ” New classified document found in FBI search of Pence home”
From The article….
“WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI discovered an additional document with classified markings at former Vice President Mike Pence ’s Indiana home during a search Friday, following the discovery by his lawyers last month of sensitive government documents there. Pence adviser Devin O’Malley said the Department of Justice completed “a thorough and unrestricted search of five hours” and removed “one document with classified markings and six additional pages without such markings that were not discovered in the initial review by the vice president’s counsel.” The search, described as consensual after negotiations between Pence’s representatives and the Justice Department, comes after he was subpoenaed in a separate investigation into efforts by former President Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 election and as Pence contemplates a Republican bid for the White House in 2024. So, where are YOUR "verifying articles or facts that Pence showed his classified documents to anyone"? |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 0:55:02 GMT
Trump is on a roll again tonight.
He referred to himself in the 3rd person. "You know they're pumping it as much as they can under the Trump".
He said "I have so many lawyers. Lawyers are my best friend, but that's OK"
He's talking about election fraud already - The only way they win is a rigged election. The only way it can end is with a rigged or failed election.
he claimed President Biden's stupid energy policies caused inflation
Talking about his "perfect phone call"
Even Fox cut away from him apparently when he started talking about the "rigged 2020 election"
BREAKING: Fox News enrages its MAGA viewers by cutting away from a disastrous Trump speech as right-wing host Neil Cavuto trashes Trump's lies, saying that he's "entitled to his opinions, he’s not entitled to his own set of facts."
But it gets so much worse for Trump...
"I mean no offense to him or some of you might want to continue to hear him but I did have to say that even though the former president is entitled to his opinions, he's not entitled to his own set of facts," said Cavuto, as Trump's face was reduced to a small box on the side of the frame.
"The market has indeed been going up but having nothing to do with him and everything to do with this aggressive cut in interest rates or just a hike in interest rates, it has stabilized inflation," Cavuto went on.
"And of course the whole artificial intelligence phenomenon that has benefited Nvidia and a host of companies that are making moeny hand over fist so that — whether you want to give Biden credit for that — it has nothing to do with Donald Trump," he said.
But Cavuto wasn't done there. He unleashed a string of brutal fact-checks, tearing through Trump's pathetic stream of lies and popping the insulated information bubble that Fox News voters live in.
"Furthermore, he mentioned about gas prices out of whack, $6 a gallon. The national average right now is $3.26 a gallon," said Cavuto.
"He went on to talk about the 2020 election and how that was rigged," added Cavuto. "This has been adjudicated many many times, dozens of times. It's been investigated by everyone and his uncle no fewer than forty-four investigations launched, some of them by judges that were picked by Donald Trump himself that found no evidence of that in the seven battleground states where most of them were focused."
Wow. If not even Fox News — a network that exists solely to pump out conservative propaganda — is turning against Trump's lies, he is in serious trouble come November.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 1:10:09 GMT
An editorial in the Palm Beach Post today www.palmbeachpost.com/story/opinion/editorials/2024/02/21/editorial-evidence-mounts-that-trump-is-not-worthy-of-our-votes/72669652007/Trump has openly demonstrated why, even if you put character aside — which we can’t — the nation would have much to fear from his second term.
Anyone with the slightest knowledge of World War II should fear his autocratic sympathies and inclination to walk away from NATO, leaving Europe and the United States vulnerable to Putin’s dreams of a new world order.
On the domestic front, his threats to further unravel women’s autonomy and union protections should concern millions as well, as should his racist and antisemitic dog whistles and buddying-up with white nationalists, and the campaign contributions that pay his lawyers’ bills.
And sure, though it seems increasingly unlikely, he could win a round or two in the courts. And if he won a new term in office, he could erase any impact that the prosecutions might have had. But you’ll know what he did.
As you consider your ballot, though you might prefer his tilt to the right to Biden’s tilt to the left, ask yourself if this is the quality of a man who should represent you, speak for you, act in your name, be the master of your universe," they urged. "Don’t listen to the pundits. Just look at the evidence.
Consider President Biden's performance, as well: Unquestioned support for our allies; for women's autonomy; for union protection of middle-class jobs; for infrastructure improvement; for high-tech industry expansion; for manufacturing resurgence; for climate repair; for common sense gun regulations. Inflation is low, employment, high. Don't listen to the noise; look at the evidence.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 1:34:45 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 24, 2024 1:55:34 GMT
link. ⬅️ It took me less than 90 seconds to find this. Be honest you just want to put shit out there with no verifying articles or facts. There is a lot more but you can look it up yourself. AP ” New classified document found in FBI search of Pence home”
From The article….
“WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI discovered an additional document with classified markings at former Vice President Mike Pence ’s Indiana home during a search Friday, following the discovery by his lawyers last month of sensitive government documents there. Pence adviser Devin O’Malley said the Department of Justice completed “a thorough and unrestricted search of five hours” and removed “one document with classified markings and six additional pages without such markings that were not discovered in the initial review by the vice president’s counsel.” The search, described as consensual after negotiations between Pence’s representatives and the Justice Department, comes after he was subpoenaed in a separate investigation into efforts by former President Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 election and as Pence contemplates a Republican bid for the White House in 2024. So, where are YOUR "verifying articles or facts that Pence showed his classified documents to anyone"? Me: So did Mike Pence. Should he be charged for something? You: I can not find evidence of that. Do you have a link to that? I provided you with a link. From AP no less. See arrow above. If you want anymore information you can do your own research |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 24, 2024 2:55:57 GMT
So, where are YOUR "verifying articles or facts that Pence showed his classified documents to anyone"? Me: So did Mike Pence. Should he be charged for something? You: I can not find evidence of that. Do you have a link to that? I provided you with a link. From AP no less. See arrow above. If you want anymore information you can do your own research You left out this part of the conversation: Please quote from your article, the actual point that YOU think shows that Pence showed his classified documents to anyone, because that doesn't seem to exist. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 24, 2024 3:16:55 GMT
Maybe his swastickers will work with MTG's gespacho.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 24, 2024 3:41:44 GMT
He wants to get rid of the Dept of Education???  But one person is going to sit at a desk and make sure 'everyone' speaks English  Well that sounds like a sound plan  These Republican dumbasses HATE the U.S. Department of Education. They want to hand all standards back to the states, so the red states can continue their downhill slide into a 4th grade education for all. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 24, 2024 9:54:10 GMT
He wants to get rid of the Dept of Education??? But one person is going to sit at a desk and make sure 'everyone' speaks English Well that sounds like a sound plan These Republican dumbasses HATE the U.S. Department of Education. They want to hand all standards back to the states, so the red states can continue their downhill slide into a 4th grade education for all. Yep. It’s their answer for everything. Let the states handle it! We can all see how well that has worked with the fall of Roe. If they have their way, the Christo-fascists will eliminate birth control and abortion, get rid of no-fault divorce, and encourage young girls to marry early instead getting an education and choosing a career. And if no-fault divorce is eliminated, with no skills, many young women will be well and truly screwed. Until recently, I really didn’t think that they would go this far. But the warning signs are flashing for anyone who cares to look. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 24, 2024 14:25:18 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 14:28:33 GMT
Trump said a lot of crazy stuff in his speech last night, but these racist statements are the worst.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 14:29:30 GMT
And this traitorous statement was the most dangerous for democracy.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 14:32:01 GMT
I’m really starting to think mainstream media is failing us. They’re talking about President Biden’s age every day but not talking about how extreme and radical the Republican Party has become. And not talking enough about how crazy and dangerous Trump is. They’re covering Trump’s legal battles and that alone is a lot. And they’re trying to be balanced, but this kind of thing doesn’t feel balanced.
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Post by Merge on Feb 24, 2024 14:32:35 GMT
He wants to get rid of the Dept of Education??? But one person is going to sit at a desk and make sure 'everyone' speaks English Well that sounds like a sound plan These Republican dumbasses HATE the U.S. Department of Education. They want to hand all standards back to the states, so the red states can continue their downhill slide into a 4th grade education for all. States can already set their own standards. Texas' standards are actually right on par with the national/common core ones ... which are actually too stringent at the primary level in most teachers' opinions. The loss of the DOE would mean the loss of any enforcement for SpEd and disability protections in public schools. |
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Post by gar on Feb 24, 2024 14:36:48 GMT
Counting down to the "But what he meant was..." post. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 14:43:36 GMT
I didn’t see anything on the NYT or NPR about Trump’s speech last night, but the Washington Post had this www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/24/trump-black-voters-indicted-mug-shot/Trump says Black voters like him more because of his indictments and mug shot
The GOP candidate tells a group of Black conservatives: ‘I’m being indicted for you, the Black population
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Former President Trump sought to appeal to Black voters on Friday night in South Carolina by repeatedly citing the 91 felony charges he faces and comparing them to unfair treatment from the criminal justice system toward minorities in America.
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“A lot of people said that’s why the Black people liked me, because they had been hurt so badly and discriminated against. And they actually viewed me as I’m being discriminated against … Maybe there’s something to it,” he said, right after talking about the charges.
He also cited his mug shot in Georgia — taken last summer after he was charged for trying to overturn the state’s election results — as a reason that Black voters would gravitate toward him in November. Trump said he now saw Black Americans wearing mug shots on their T-shirts.
“When I did the mug shot in Atlanta, that mug shot is number one,” Trump said. He added that the Black population “embraced it more than anyone else.”
He also said: “I’m being indicted for you, the Black population.”
Trump faces 91 felony counts in four separate cases for allegedly mishandling classified information, obstructing justice, conspiring to overturn the 2020 election and falsifying business records in connection to hush money paid to an adult-film star.
The former president spoke for about 90 minutes to a room of about 500 Republicans at the Black Conservative Federation’s annual awards gala at a convention center here. The crowd cheered and laughed at some of his more inflammatory lines and many of the attendees defended Trump vigorously. He was flanked onstage by five prominent Black leaders, including former Housing and Urban Development secretary Ben Carson and Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.), and was praised by Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) in a speech before he arrived.eta - NYT did cover it. Trump's speeches are always all about himself. www.nytimes.com/2024/02/24/us/politics/trump-black-voters.html“I think that’s why the Black people are so much on my side now,” Mr. Trump said at a gala hosted by the Black Conservative Federation in Columbia, S.C. “Because they see what’s happening to me happens to them. Does that make sense?”
At another point in his speech, he suggested that Black voters had warmed to him “because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against, and they actually viewed me as, I’m being discriminated against. It’s been pretty amazing.”
Mr. Trump has long been accused of racist remarks and behavior. The Justice Department sued him in 1977 for discriminating against potential Black tenants. He was criticized for fueling racial tension when he took out newspaper ads in New York in the 1980s urging the state to adopt the death penalty after the rape of a jogger in Central Park, a crime wrongly blamed on five Black and Latino teenagers.
And he first emerged as a conservative political figure when he stoked animus toward President Barack Obama by becoming a high-profile figurehead of the so-called birther movement, which falsely cast doubt on whether Mr. Obama was born in the United States.
Mr. Trump continues to emphasize Mr. Obama’s middle name, Hussein, when he refers to him on the campaign trail. And he has continued to question whether political opponents who are people of color are eligible to hold office, most recently Nikki Haley, his lone remaining rival for the Republican presidential nomination.
During Friday’s speech, as he was thanking supporters and friends in the crowd — a typical feature of Mr. Trump’s campaign speeches — he noted that he was having trouble spotting them.
“The lights are so bright in my eyes that I can’t see too many people out there,” Mr. Trump said to laughs from the audience. “But I can only see the Black ones. I can’t see any white ones, you see?”
“That’s how far I’ve come,” he added as the crowd cheered. “That’s how far I’ve come. That’s a long — that’s a long way, isn’t it?”
He also took aim at identity politics, even as he repeatedly tried to cater to Black voters.
While telling a story about negotiating the price of an overhaul for Air Force One, Mr. Trump criticized Mr. Obama for not doing enough to cut costs.
“Would you rather have the Black president or the white president who got $1.7 billion off the price?” Mr. Trump asked the crowd, which cheered in response. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 24, 2024 14:54:33 GMT
Counting down to the "But what he meant was..." post. Yeah. Just like with the shark vs. electrocution death quip, there is no context that makes this something a normal person would say in a speech. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 14:56:28 GMT
Counting down to the "But what he meant was..." post. Yeah. Just like with the shark vs. electrocution death quip, there is no context that makes this something a normal person would say in a speech. Or when he mixed up Nikki Haley and Nancy Pelosi and tried to say he did it on purpose, he “interposed” words. Or when he was only joking when he suggested studying the injection of disinfectant. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 24, 2024 15:02:53 GMT
He also pretended to be religious when he talked to religious broadcasters in Nashville 2 days ago. And he frequently pretends to be a good businessman.
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Post by Gem Girl on Feb 24, 2024 21:46:34 GMT
Even Fox cut away from him apparently when he started talking about the "rigged 2020 election" If he's even boring Fox, I'd say he's finished. So, when he loses this time, will he go away & be quiet? Not that anybody will cover his ravings from his prison cell.... |
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Post by Gem Girl on Feb 24, 2024 22:21:39 GMT
He wants to get rid of the Dept of Education??? But one person is going to sit at a desk and make sure 'everyone' speaks English Well that sounds like a sound plan These Republican dumbasses HATE the U.S. Department of Education. They want to hand all standards back to the states, so the red states can continue their downhill slide into a 4th grade education for all. Interesting theory. I was guessing they want to privatize, because they never want to fulfill basic needs without charging. |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 25, 2024 0:43:21 GMT
Me: So did Mike Pence. Should he be charged for something? You: I can not find evidence of that. Do you have a link to that? I provided you with a link. From AP no less. See arrow above. If you want anymore information you can do your own research You left out this part of the conversation: Please quote from your article, the actual point that YOU think shows that Pence showed his classified documents to anyone, because that doesn't seem to exist. Still waiting for you to back up your claim that Mike Pence showed his classified documents to anyone, onelasttime. 🤔 |
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 25, 2024 1:23:00 GMT
You left out this part of the conversation: Please quote from your article, the actual point that YOU think shows that Pence showed his classified documents to anyone, because that doesn't seem to exist. Still waiting for you to back up your claim that Mike Pence showed his classified documents to anyone, onelasttime . 🤔 I actually did pound out a response but deleted it. I have no problem admitting I missed the bit about showing others classified information. In the process of writing my response something occurred to me about what you were claiming and what I had read about what the President did or didn’t do. I deleted my response when I realized that you lack curiosity and can’t or refuse to look at the entire picture. In your world everything is black or white with no pesky shades of grey to muddy the water of what you want to believe. When in reality it’s not that simple. |
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But one person is going to sit at a desk and make sure 'everyone' speaks English 
Well that sounds like a sound plan 
