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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 26, 2024 13:48:32 GMT
I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly. |
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Post by gar on Feb 26, 2024 14:41:26 GMT
It's terrifying basically watching this happen in slow motion - and I don't even live there but it'll have a world wide ripple effect, no question  |
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Post by Merge on Feb 26, 2024 14:43:21 GMT
It's terrifying basically watching this happen in slow motion - and I don't even live there but it'll have a world wide ripple effect, no question It’s Putin’s attempt to remove the US from NATO and leave smaller countries much less protected. |
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Post by gar on Feb 26, 2024 14:44:14 GMT
It's terrifying basically watching this happen in slow motion - and I don't even live there but it'll have a world wide ripple effect, no question  It’s Putin’s attempt to remove the US from NATO and leave smaller countries much less protected. I guess so  |
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Post by smasonnc on Feb 26, 2024 15:12:23 GMT
I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly. And exactly which pea would that be? No need to name names; I think we know. It must be lonely in the basement with all the canned goods, thus the 19 page political threads.  |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 26, 2024 16:01:48 GMT
I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly. Or find a way to twist it and justify it. Or gaslight us. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 26, 2024 16:31:56 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 26, 2024 16:40:05 GMT
Except for one pea, I think we can all see which candidate is the racist one
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 26, 2024 17:09:12 GMT
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Post by Merge on Feb 26, 2024 17:35:37 GMT
I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly. Or find a way to twist it and justify it. Or gaslight us. Hard to twist and justify when they're telling us exactly what they intend to do. Anyone who hasn't read the Project 2025 document should do so. They're quite clear. www.project2025.org/policy/ |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 26, 2024 18:20:58 GMT
Or find a way to twist it and justify it. Or gaslight us. Hard to twist and justify when they're telling us exactly what they intend to do. Anyone who hasn't read the Project 2025 document should do so. They're quite clear. www.project2025.org/policy/I don't even know where to start. The fact that they found 400 people to help them write this trash is alarming. Anyone who helped write this or believes any of this is a twisted individual. Their playbook or mandate is really terrifying. Their 4 goals might sound innocuous, but knowing the conservative agendas, they're not. They're pushing an isolationist, authoritarian regime formed around religion. It will be an all out culture war with the authority of the federal government imposing their religion and targeting anyone who disagrees and anyone on the left. This is just the forst 5 pages, I couldn't tolerate reading any more. https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf 1. Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children.
2. Dismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people.
3. Defend our nation’s sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats.
4. Secure our God-given individual rights to live freely—what our Constitution calls “the Blessings of Liberty.”
Federal power must instead be wielded to reverse the crisis and rescue America’s kids from familial breakdown. The Conservative Promise includes dozens of specific policies to accomplish this existential task.
Some are obvious and long-standing goals like eliminating marriage penalties in federal welfare programs and the tax code and installing work requirements for food stamps. But we must go further. It’s time for policymakers to elevate family authority, formation, and cohesion as their top priority and even use government power, including through the tax code, to restore the American family.
The next conservative President must make the institutions of American civil society hard targets for woke culture warriors. This starts with deleting the terms sexual orientation and gender identity (“SOGI”), diversity, equity, and inclusion (“DEI”), gender, gender equality, gender equity, gender awareness, gender-sensi- tive, abortion, reproductive health, reproductive rights, and any other term used to deprive Americans of their First Amendment rights out of every federal rule, agency regulation, contract, grant, regulation, and piece of legislation that exists.
Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.
In our schools, the question of parental authority over their children’s education is a simple one: Schools serve parents, not the other way around. That is, of course, the best argument for universal school choice—a goal all conservatives and con- servative Presidents must pursue. But even before we achieve that long-term goal, parents’ rights as their children’s primary educators should be non-negotiable in American schools. States, cities and counties, school boards, union bosses, princi- pals, and teachers who disagree should be immediately cut off from federal funds.
The noxious tenets of “critical race theory” and “gender ideology” should be excised from curricula in every public school in the country. These theories poison our children, who are being taught on the one hand to affirm that the color of their skin fundamentally determines their identity and even their moral status while on the other they are taught to deny the very creatureliness that inheres in being human and consists in accepting the givenness of our nature as men or women.
Finally, conservatives should gratefully celebrate the greatest pro-family win in a generation: overturning Roe v. Wade, a decision that for five decades made a mockery of our Constitution and facilitated the deaths of tens of millions of unborn children. But the Dobbs decision is just the beginning. Conservatives in the states and in Washington, including in the next conservative Administration, should push as hard as possible to protect the unborn in every jurisdiction in America. In particular, the next conservative President should work with Congress to enact the most robust protections for the unborn that Congress will support while deploying existing federal powers to protect innocent life and vigorously complying with statutory bans on the federal funding of abortion. Conservatives should ardently pursue these pro-life and pro-family policies while recognizing the many women who find themselves in immensely difficult and often tragic situations and the hero- ism of every choice to become a mother. Alternative options to abortion, especially adoption, should receive federal and state support. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 26, 2024 18:33:25 GMT
Hard to twist and justify when they're telling us exactly what they intend to do. Anyone who hasn't read the Project 2025 document should do so. They're quite clear. www.project2025.org/policy/I don't even know where to start. The fact that they found 400 people to help them write this trash is alarming. Anyone who helped write this or believes any of this is a twisted individual. Their playbook or mandate is really terrifying. Their 4 goals might sound innocuous, but knowing the conservative agendas, they're not. They're pushing an isolationist, authoritarian regime formed around religion. It will be an all out culture war with the authority of the federal government imposing their religion and targeting anyone who disagrees and anyone on the left. This is just the forst 5 pages, I couldn't tolerate reading any more. https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf 1. Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children.
2. Dismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people.
3. Defend our nation’s sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats.
4. Secure our God-given individual rights to live freely—what our Constitution calls “the Blessings of Liberty.”
Federal power must instead be wielded to reverse the crisis and rescue America’s kids from familial breakdown. The Conservative Promise includes dozens of specific policies to accomplish this existential task.
Some are obvious and long-standing goals like eliminating marriage penalties in federal welfare programs and the tax code and installing work requirements for food stamps. But we must go further. It’s time for policymakers to elevate family authority, formation, and cohesion as their top priority and even use government power, including through the tax code, to restore the American family.
The next conservative President must make the institutions of American civil society hard targets for woke culture warriors. This starts with deleting the terms sexual orientation and gender identity (“SOGI”), diversity, equity, and inclusion (“DEI”), gender, gender equality, gender equity, gender awareness, gender-sensi- tive, abortion, reproductive health, reproductive rights, and any other term used to deprive Americans of their First Amendment rights out of every federal rule, agency regulation, contract, grant, regulation, and piece of legislation that exists.
Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.
In our schools, the question of parental authority over their children’s education is a simple one: Schools serve parents, not the other way around. That is, of course, the best argument for universal school choice—a goal all conservatives and con- servative Presidents must pursue. But even before we achieve that long-term goal, parents’ rights as their children’s primary educators should be non-negotiable in American schools. States, cities and counties, school boards, union bosses, princi- pals, and teachers who disagree should be immediately cut off from federal funds.
The noxious tenets of “critical race theory” and “gender ideology” should be excised from curricula in every public school in the country. These theories poison our children, who are being taught on the one hand to affirm that the color of their skin fundamentally determines their identity and even their moral status while on the other they are taught to deny the very creatureliness that inheres in being human and consists in accepting the givenness of our nature as men or women.
Finally, conservatives should gratefully celebrate the greatest pro-family win in a generation: overturning Roe v. Wade, a decision that for five decades made a mockery of our Constitution and facilitated the deaths of tens of millions of unborn children. But the Dobbs decision is just the beginning. Conservatives in the states and in Washington, including in the next conservative Administration, should push as hard as possible to protect the unborn in every jurisdiction in America. In particular, the next conservative President should work with Congress to enact the most robust protections for the unborn that Congress will support while deploying existing federal powers to protect innocent life and vigorously complying with statutory bans on the federal funding of abortion. Conservatives should ardently pursue these pro-life and pro-family policies while recognizing the many women who find themselves in immensely difficult and often tragic situations and the hero- ism of every choice to become a mother. Alternative options to abortion, especially adoption, should receive federal and state support.The whole document is like this. The clear intention is to make conservative Christians the only protected class in the country, with all other belief systems relegated to the fringe. |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 26, 2024 20:57:58 GMT
Recent NBC poll 76% of voters say they have (I do believe it's up to 86% now in another) major (62%) or moderate (14%) concerns about Biden lacking the necessary mental and physical health to be president for a second term. Perhaps most worrisomely for the president, 81% of independents and 54% of Democrats say they have major or moderate concerns about Biden’s fitness for a second term. And how much of that belief is due to actual events or the exaggeration by media and word of mouth, so to speak, on social media? I do wish that he was younger but I think much of what people say is just regurgitated from some other person on social media. People who know Biden and talk with him on a regular basis say that he is doing the job well, he is present, engaged, and ready to do what is needed of him. I think MOST of it is what they're seeing and hearing with their own eyes and ears. There is just SO MUCH, it's hard to miss:
not remembering, even within several years, defining milestones in his own life claims of recently speaking to people that died, some decades ago repeating same exact story, verbatim, within a couple of minutes to the same people promising not to make people uncomfortable anymore by touching them and then doing it again and upsetting a young child claiming he called a climate emergency when he hasn't saying "we're going to build a bridge across the Indian Ocean" shaking someone's hand then forgetting he just did and trying to do it again always being confused on HOW to leave the podium in recent years. being confused about what office he's running for, he keeps thinking he's still running for senate even now, in 2024 repeatedly not understanding not to read the stage directions. standing trance like while holding an imaginary steering wheel? while looking off into the distance on stage while being asked questions being unable to follow directions of someone pointing exactly where to go often forgetting words, concepts, people's names, even that this is the Biden presidency -not the Harris presidency repeatedly admitting someone else is in charge of whether he can take questions and they will get mad at him being guided around with hands on, moving him around -being treated like a man in a diminished mental state rambling on about a guy named Cornpop while reminiscing about letting kids playing with his leg hair in the pool MANY false claims, incoherent ramblings, speaking to foreign officials with his face straight down in a notecard, word salads etc. In 2024 he still thinks he's in the United States Senate: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jan/12/joe-biden-says-he-works-in-senate-in-latest-gaffe/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 26, 2024 22:22:01 GMT
And how much of that belief is due to actual events or the exaggeration by media and word of mouth, so to speak, on social media? I do wish that he was younger but I think much of what people say is just regurgitated from some other person on social media. People who know Biden and talk with him on a regular basis say that he is doing the job well, he is present, engaged, and ready to do what is needed of him. I think MOST of it is what they're seeing and hearing with their own eyes and ears. There is just SO MUCH, it's hard to miss:
not remembering, even within several years, defining milestones in his own life claims of recently speaking to people that died, some decades ago repeating same exact story, verbatim, within a couple of minutes to the same people promising not to make people uncomfortable anymore by touching them and then doing it again and upsetting a young child claiming he called a climate emergency when he hasn't saying "we're going to build a bridge across the Indian Ocean" shaking someone's hand then forgetting he just did and trying to do it again always being confused on HOW to leave the podium in recent years. being confused about what office he's running for, he keeps thinking he's still running for senate even now, in 2024 repeatedly not understanding not to read the stage directions. standing trance like while holding an imaginary steering wheel? while looking off into the distance on stage while being asked questions being unable to follow directions of someone pointing exactly where to go often forgetting words, concepts, people's names, even that this is the Biden presidency -not the Harris presidency repeatedly admitting someone else is in charge of whether he can take questions and they will get mad at him being guided around with hands on, moving him around -being treated like a man in a diminished mental state rambling on about a guy named Cornpop while reminiscing about letting kids playing with his leg hair in the pool MANY false claims, incoherent ramblings, speaking to foreign officials with his face straight down in a notecard, word salads etc. In 2024 he still thinks he's in the United States Senate: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jan/12/joe-biden-says-he-works-in-senate-in-latest-gaffe/Several years ago I read in the Federalist Papers that one of the reasons The Framers created the Electoral College was because they didn’t trust the public to pick a qualified person to be president. Of course over the years the states have “diluted” the actual Electoral College so it doesn’t work the way the Framers had intended to work. And at the time I read it I thought we’ve done ok in our choices for the most part. Then along came trump and more importantly his MAGA supporters like yourself. In spite of what came out about trump before the 2016 election he managed to win the election. And the Electoral College that was created to stop someone like trump from being elected actually helped him win because of the fiddling done by the states in diluting the actual Electoral College. There were good reasons for trump being named the worst President in the history of the United States. But here we are with a man who has been found to have sexually assaulted/raped a woman. Been found to have committed fraud. Has indictments that range from election interference, mishandling classified documents and not turning them over to the government as prescribed by law to inciting a riot against his own government. And unless he drops dead he will be the Republican Nominee for President. One has to ask why a person as morally bankrupt as trump is even being considered for the highest office in The United States and one of the most powerful men in the world? Simple because of people like yourself and other MAGA folks along with with non MAGA folks who will always vote Republican regardless of what the candidate has done. Which proves The Framers were right all those years ago to question the public’s ability to elect a qualified person to be president. |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 26, 2024 23:19:10 GMT
Thank you for showing exactly WHY over 140 peas only feel comfortable answering anonymously.
And exactly WHY no one on the Right participates anymore.
Revirdsuba99
"And it shouldn't even warrant a discussion. It is disgusting that anyone can even argue that there is a legitimate reason to vote Republican this year."
Iamkristinl16
"I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly."
Merge
"I feel like this shouldn't be a hard choice."
smasonnc
"And exactly which pea would that be? No need to name names; I think we know. It must be lonely in the basement with all the canned goods, thus the 19 page political threads."
Aj2hall
"Or find a way to twist it and justify it. Or gaslight us."
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Post by jayfab on Feb 26, 2024 23:29:54 GMT
Thank you for showing exactly WHY over 140 peas only feel comfortable answering anonymously. And exactly WHY no one on the Right participates anymore. Revirdsuba99 "And it shouldn't even warrant a discussion. It is disgusting that anyone can even argue that there is a legitimate reason to vote Republican this year." Iamkristinl16 "I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly." Merge "I feel like this shouldn't be a hard choice." smasonnc "And exactly which pea would that be? No need to name names; I think we know. It must be lonely in the basement with all the canned goods, thus the 19 page political threads." Aj2hall "Or find a way to twist it and justify it. Or gaslight us."  You seriously believe there are over 140 "red" peas who answered anonymously? |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 26, 2024 23:35:53 GMT
Thank you for showing exactly WHY over 140 peas only feel comfortable answering anonymously. And exactly WHY no one on the Right participates anymore. Revirdsuba99 "And it shouldn't even warrant a discussion. It is disgusting that anyone can even argue that there is a legitimate reason to vote Republican this year." Iamkristinl16 "I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly." Merge "I feel like this shouldn't be a hard choice." smasonnc "And exactly which pea would that be? No need to name names; I think we know. It must be lonely in the basement with all the canned goods, thus the 19 page political threads." Aj2hall "Or find a way to twist it and justify it. Or gaslight us." Did you even bother to look at what she posted, what sparked the comments? You kind of proved our point. Instead of condemning the Nazis, white supremacists and white Christian nationalists for their fascist plans, which should be easy for anyone to do, you deflected, called out each of us individually and insulted us. The party that you support and defend had a conference where white supremacists and Nazis openly participated. If that's not terrible enough, in the event Trump or another Republican takes office in Jan 2025, they have a plan that they have openly published detailing how to impose a nationwide abortion ban and how to declare that married heterosexuality is the only form of sexual expression and identity. Nazis mingle openly at CPAC, spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories and finding allies
The presence of these extremists has been a persistent issue at CPAC, and in previous years conference organizers have ejected well-known Nazis and white supremacists such as Nick Fuentes.NATIONAL HARBOR, Md. — Nazis appeared to find a friendly reception at the Conservative Political Action Conference this year.
Throughout the conference, racist extremists, some of whom had secured official CPAC badges, openly mingled with conference attendees and espoused antisemitic conspiracy theories.
The presence of these individuals has been a persistent issue at CPAC. In previous years, conference organizers have ejected well-known Nazis and white supremacists such as Nick Fuentes.
But this year, racist conspiracy theorists didn’t meet any perceptible resistance at the conference where Donald Trump has been the keynote speaker since 2017.
Conservatives Plan to Ban Abortion and Cut LGBT Rights Starting Next January
Project 2025’s 180-Day Playbook is a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.
On January 20, 2025, conservatives plan to resurrect a 150-year-old defunct law to ban abortion across the nation. This is not a secret plan—far from it. It’s part of the 180-Day Playbook produced by Project 2025, detailing priorities for an incoming conservative president on day one. These 900 pages lay out a Christian nationalist vision of the United States, one in which married heterosexuality is the only valid form of sexual expression and identity; all pregnancies would be carried to term, even if that requires coercion or death; and transgender and gender-nonconforming people do not exist. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 26, 2024 23:50:51 GMT
Thank you for showing exactly WHY over 140 peas only feel comfortable answering anonymously. And exactly WHY no one on the Right participates anymore. Revirdsuba99 "And it shouldn't even warrant a discussion. It is disgusting that anyone can even argue that there is a legitimate reason to vote Republican this year." Iamkristinl16 "I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly." Merge "I feel like this shouldn't be a hard choice." smasonnc "And exactly which pea would that be? No need to name names; I think we know. It must be lonely in the basement with all the canned goods, thus the 19 page political threads." Aj2hall "Or find a way to twist it and justify it. Or gaslight us." It shouldn’t be a hard choice. Anyone who thinks it is clearly isn’t paying attention. Or else they agree with the stuff in the Project 2025 playbook, which makes them a fascist. Some views are intolerable in the US. White nationalism and religious nationalism are among them. I won’t ever apologize for criticizing those views when I see them. We don’t have to be nice to Nazis. Insofar as 140 peas may be Nazi sympathizers, I’m not surprised that they’d choose not to identify themselves. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 27, 2024 0:24:58 GMT
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Post by Merge on Feb 27, 2024 0:26:50 GMT
Project 2025 plans to put their stuff into action if any Republican is elected. I haven’t seen anything from Haley that makes me think she’d object to much in that document. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 27, 2024 0:31:04 GMT
Project 2025 plans to put their stuff into action if any Republican is elected. I haven’t seen anything from Haley that makes me think she’d object to much in that document. Excellent point. Haley supports a national abortion ban and life begins at conception. To be fair to the voter, though, South Carolina has open primaries. A Haley supporter could be a Democrat or Independent voting against Trump. I didn't see a Haley button, sign, hat etc. Technically, in our primary in NH, I was a Haley supporter even though I would never vote for her in a general election. |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 27, 2024 0:43:56 GMT
Thank you for showing exactly WHY over 140 peas only feel comfortable answering anonymously. And exactly WHY no one on the Right participates anymore. Revirdsuba99 "And it shouldn't even warrant a discussion. It is disgusting that anyone can even argue that there is a legitimate reason to vote Republican this year." Iamkristinl16 "I can’t wait for a pea to come and tell us how we are interpreting this incorrectly." Merge "I feel like this shouldn't be a hard choice." smasonnc "And exactly which pea would that be? No need to name names; I think we know. It must be lonely in the basement with all the canned goods, thus the 19 page political threads." Aj2hall "Or find a way to twist it and justify it. Or gaslight us." You seriously believe there are over 140 "red" peas who answered anonymously? You seriously don't? Do you know something I don't know? |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 27, 2024 4:02:39 GMT
You do know there is a thread called "Miscellaneous Political Stuff"just for this kind of post, dont you? Otherwise, this is a thread on biden and his mental decline. The more you post "but, but, but the Republicans/Trump" on this thread, the more you telegraph your incessant NEED to bury the fact that people can see biden's mental decline. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 27, 2024 4:08:12 GMT
You can't talk about one candidate in an election year without talking about the other one.
Abortion is a major issue and will be on the ballot in November. Sorry, not sorry if that's inconvenient for you.
I seem to recall your complaining about others trying to dictate what could or couldn't be posted.
Just yesterday, you complained about being silenced here. But it's OK for you to tell someone what they can and can't post?
Or in this thread, telling people what they can and can't comment on
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 27, 2024 4:42:06 GMT
You can't talk about one candidate in an election year without talking about the other one. Abortion is a major issue and will be on the ballot in November. Sorry, not sorry if that's inconvenient for you. I seem to recall your complaining about others trying to dictate what could or couldn't be posted. Just yesterday, you complained about being silenced here. But it's OK for you to tell someone what they can and can't post? Or in this thread, telling people what they can and can't comment on I did NOT tell anyone what they can or can't post. I merely pointed out how absolutely desperate YOU look when YOU have an incessant NEED to bury facts YOU don't like. Again, I did NOT tell anyone what they can or can't post. Clarifying what people seemed to miss about MY question is not, by any stretch of the imagination, telling anyone what they can or can't post. Wow! Those examples of yours are so desperately reaching. 🤪 |
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Post by lucyg on Feb 27, 2024 5:54:24 GMT
And let us not forget, most popular forms of birth control. These Republicans are salivating at the thought of fitting young women for their red dresses. |
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