twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 12, 2024 0:29:10 GMT
Has Biden experienced a mental decline over the past 4 years? Well, I’m not a doctor who has examined him so I can’t say for sure.
That said, I’m sure he has experienced the same mental decline that would be expected in an otherwise healthy man of his age.many of the “language issues” can be attributed more to his stutter than to any mental decline.
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Post by Merge on Feb 12, 2024 0:39:38 GMT
Seriously, what does it matter? He's the nominee. Trump will be the Republican nominee. We have a choice between a sane, aging man, and Russia's "useful idiot," who also is aging. What purpose does all this serve? The beauty of the American system was supposed to be that power is never held entirely in one branch or one office. If you have a bad actor in one place, he/she is overridden both by the sane majority and the constraints of our constitution. If Biden serves a second term, I have faith that our system will do its job. But if Trump is elected again, he's already shown that our systems are anathema to him. He wants to consolidate power in the executive branch, overrule the will of the people, and set aside the constitution when it doesn't serve his ends. He appoints people who agree with him, which means that very few are willing or able to stop him when he's violating our rights, norms, and laws. So what is the point of speculating about Biden's "fitness?" I'm really asking. What even is the point, when this is the alternative? She created this poll knowing exactly what she was doing. She wants attention. You know the point of this poll is to keep people engaged with her. She loves this. The arguing and bickering is her catnip. I am normally against kink shaming anyone. But this dynamic she has created is weird. Cockeyed optimist that I am, I guess I keep hoping at some point she will be able to demonstrate that she's arguing in good faith. I've been disappointed so far. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Feb 12, 2024 0:42:59 GMT
She created this poll knowing exactly what she was doing. She wants attention. You know the point of this poll is to keep people engaged with her. She loves this. The arguing and bickering is her catnip. I am normally against kink shaming anyone. But this dynamic she has created is weird. Cockeyed optimist that I am, I guess I keep hoping at some point she will be able to demonstrate that she's arguing in good faith. I've been disappointed so far. It has been long enough I think we all have a pretty good idea of who she is. What is that saying about believing them when people show you who they are. And the one about fool me once shame on you, shame me twice shame on me. I mean everyone's been arguing with her long enough that it should be clear she never ever changes who she is or how she posts. She's either obtuse beyond redemption, in mental decline herself, or she gets her jollies off the arguing. |
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Post by lucyg on Feb 12, 2024 0:45:03 GMT
And now, because you posted such a slanted poll that many of us refused to respond to it, you have results that you can claim show “the majority of peas believe Biden is too impaired to serve another term!!!!!” Well done, if slanted results are what you were looking for. I would never make such a claim. We all know how slanted in the other direction this board is. It wouldn’t be possible to credibly make such a claim. I stated the intention of this poll in the OP. People are free to say if their opinion differs to what many have seen AND acknowledge anywhere, and already have, without being berated with personal attacks and pile ons. THIS poll is to express differing opinion anonymously without personal attacks to fend off.I DID explain that nicely in the OP, but thanks for adding to the confirmation of the WHY the way the poll is written. None of that changes the facts here. Regardless of what people are allowed to say in the responses to clarify their position, you have still created a poll that requires many, possibly most of us to either choose an answer that doesn’t fit our beliefs, or not respond directly to the poll at all. And therefore, your poll results do not reflect the beliefs of many/most peas. It’s okay, you can post any damn nonsense you like. But then don’t be surprised when others complain about your posting style.  |
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Post by huskergal on Feb 12, 2024 1:49:49 GMT
Not significant. Typical for someone his age.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 12, 2024 3:02:01 GMT
I think that he mixes up his words sometimes, which is not uncommon. I do that myself sometimes. He knows what is going on though, as do I. Still voting for him over Defendant Trump. Or is it Citizen Trump? 🥴🤔
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 12, 2024 3:03:11 GMT
I would never make such a claim. We all know how slanted in the other direction this board is. It wouldn’t be possible to credibly make such a claim. I stated the intention of this poll in the OP. People are free to say if their opinion differs to what many have seen AND acknowledge anywhere, and already have, without being berated with personal attacks and pile ons. THIS poll is to express differing opinion anonymously without personal attacks to fend off.I DID explain that nicely in the OP, but thanks for adding to the confirmation of the WHY the way the poll is written. None of that changes the facts here. Regardless of what people are allowed to say in the responses to clarify their position, you have still created a poll that requires many, possibly most of us to either choose an answer that doesn’t fit our beliefs, or not respond directly to the poll at all. And therefore, your poll results do not reflect the beliefs of many/most peas. It’s okay, you can post any damn nonsense you like. But then don’t be surprised when others complain about your posting style. Yup. I didn’t respond for that very reason. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 12, 2024 3:05:16 GMT
She created this poll knowing exactly what she was doing. She wants attention. You know the point of this poll is to keep people engaged with her. She loves this. The arguing and bickering is her catnip. I am normally against kink shaming anyone. But this dynamic she has created is weird. Cockeyed optimist that I am, I guess I keep hoping at some point she will be able to demonstrate that she's arguing in good faith. I've been disappointed so far. Narrator: Merge continued to be disappointed. ☺️ |
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Post by Merge on Feb 12, 2024 3:08:44 GMT
Cockeyed optimist that I am, I guess I keep hoping at some point she will be able to demonstrate that she's arguing in good faith. I've been disappointed so far. Narrator: Merge continued to be disappointed. ☺️ Stop expecting people to change! 😂😂  |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 12, 2024 4:50:59 GMT
Because it wasn't needed. Because we've already heard those opinions. WITHOUT personal attacks and pile-ons. My poll offers the ability to answer the questions that can't be answered without personal attacks to fend off. And give an opinion without personal attacks to fend off. Seriously get OVER yourself. I was a conservative - at least financial one - and have had many many fruitful discussions on this board of people from all different backgrounds. I said when he was first running that he was a JOKE and had zero qualifications for being president - he proved that 1000 times over in his disaster of a presidency leading to the debacle of actually trying to convince people to over take the voting will of the people. Seriously I have never in my life been more shocked by that day - I actual think that there should be an age limit on the presidency - but absolutely every bullshit comment you make about Biden is true of Trump over 1000% He's an embarrassment - my husband couldn't even stomach voting for the pussy grabber - seriously take some time to reflect. I sincerely thought it was a joke at first. And then when DH, then a Republican, was telling me that he was making headway and might actually end up the nominee I was gobsmacked. Simply could not believe it. |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 12, 2024 4:54:22 GMT
Narrator: Merge continued to be disappointed. ☺️ Stop expecting people to change! 😂😂 I’m going to be honest, and comment on something that has nothing to do with this thread, but as it’s pointless anyway I’m okay with that. This really ticked me off and I’m a fan of Travis as a player and mostly as a person. You can complain to your coach all you want, but you don’t get in his face and scream like that. Would have been fine with me if he was benched for the following drive. |
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Post by moodyblue on Feb 12, 2024 4:56:45 GMT
I think that he mixes up his words sometimes, which is not uncommon. I do that myself sometimes. He knows what is going on though, as do I. Still voting for him over Defendant Trump. Or is it Citizen Trump? 🥴🤔 I’m 67 and I mess up words at times, as does pretty much everyone. I have said for years that I would vote for a dead cat over Donald Trump. That hasn’t changed. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 12, 2024 4:57:50 GMT
Seriously get OVER yourself. I was a conservative - at least financial one - and have had many many fruitful discussions on this board of people from all different backgrounds. I said when he was first running that he was a JOKE and had zero qualifications for being president - he proved that 1000 times over in his disaster of a presidency leading to the debacle of actually trying to convince people to over take the voting will of the people. Seriously I have never in my life been more shocked by that day - I actual think that there should be an age limit on the presidency - but absolutely every bullshit comment you make about Biden is true of Trump over 1000% He's an embarrassment - my husband couldn't even stomach voting for the pussy grabber - seriously take some time to reflect. I sincerely thought it was a joke at first. And then when DH, then a Republican, was telling me that he was making headway and might actually end up the nominee I was gobsmacked. Simply could not believe it. Me either- I remember discussing the early debates and literally refusing to acknowledge him as he was so absolutely ridiculous. I saw then a fair number of people frustrated with the political establishment who embraced his candidacy and while I disagreed with them, at least understood their protest vote - we are years and years beyond that and as I said - anyone who supports someone who actually tried to upset our democratic process is a traitor. I'm not using that word lightly. I thought they should have convicted him at the time as it was 100% counter to every single one of our national values. Don't tell me you love America and support Trump. Those two statements are completely and totally contrary. |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 12, 2024 5:09:39 GMT
Absolutely agree Darcy Collins. Who knew their protest vote would be the literal potential beginning of the end of the way our political system was intended to operate? |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 12, 2024 6:17:10 GMT
UPDATE: I'm taking the advice of compeateropeator and rewording my question. The change is made in the OP. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 12, 2024 13:20:18 GMT
Stop expecting people to change! 😂😂 I’m going to be honest, and comment on something that has nothing to do with this thread, but as it’s pointless anyway I’m okay with that. This really ticked me off and I’m a fan of Travis as a player and mostly as a person. You can complain to your coach all you want, but you don’t get in his face and scream like that. Would have been fine with me if he was benched for the following drive. I don't disagree with you, but they both get paid a LOT of money to play or coach a game. Coach Wilford Brimley (that's all I can see when I look at him) will be OK. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 12, 2024 13:22:09 GMT
Absolutely agree Darcy Collins . Who knew their protest vote would be the literal potential beginning of the end of the way our political system was intended to operate? The whole idea of a protest vote at that time was ludicrous. People don't realize that whatever your beef is with the way our government is run, it could always be worse. They literally signed up for worse. |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 12, 2024 13:42:43 GMT
I’m going to be honest, and comment on something that has nothing to do with this thread, but as it’s pointless anyway I’m okay with that. This really ticked me off and I’m a fan of Travis as a player and mostly as a person. You can complain to your coach all you want, but you don’t get in his face and scream like that. Would have been fine with me if he was benched for the following drive. I don't disagree with you, but they both get paid a LOT of money to play or coach a game. Coach Wilford Brimley (that's all I can see when I look at him) will be OK.  I’ll never be able to unsee it! I know he’ll be alright, but it was disrespectful AF and that bothers me. One of the reasons I have always loved the Spurs so much is their willingness to take their ego out of it, follow Pop, and treat him with respect. And not throw fits when they didn’t agree with him or they lost playing time. I hate those temper tantrums in all sports. |
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Feb 12, 2024 13:43:32 GMT
I will be crystal clear. I would not vote for Trump if Biden dropped dead on Election Day. Trump is a fascist who wants to be a dictator and he can’t tell the difference between his ex wife and the woman he sexually assaulted. He’s been a racist since the 80’s and he doesn’t pay his bills. He grifts money from wherever he can. He stole classified document and showed them to other people, he is on tape showing other people classified documents. Our allies could never trust us if he is back in the whitehouse as he has proven to be not only careless but out & out treasonous with classified Intel. Literally every other candidate ( except Desantis who is also a fascist ) is more qualified than Trump to be president. Even Nikki we aren’t racist Haley. There is absolutely nothing you could ever tell me that could make me vote for Trump so don’t bother.  Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 12, 2024 13:51:44 GMT
Absolutely agree Darcy Collins . Who knew their protest vote would be the literal potential beginning of the end of the way our political system was intended to operate? The whole idea of a protest vote at that time was ludicrous. People don't realize that whatever your beef is with the way our government is run, it could always be worse. They literally signed up for worse. Agreed, I thought the whole idea of him at the time was ludicrous. One of the things DH actually said to me was maybe he didn’t have to be a good person to be a good leader. Okay, but maybe he shouldn’t be stupid AF, an absolutely horrible person, have some knowledge of our government and not be a bad and corrupt businessman? He fell for all of it hook, line and sinker. The thought processes and excuses they were throwing around were asinine. I told him that as well  But while I disagreed with that line of thinking entirely, at least I could understand the impetus behind it. The only thing I understand about voting for him now, after Trump proving us all right, is that they hate who he hates and don’t care what he has to do in his quest to hurt them. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 12, 2024 14:46:15 GMT
I didn't respond to the poll because none of the answers fit. I do worry a little about Biden's age but at this point I do not think he has significant mental decline. I am also in the camp that would vote for Biden if he was in a coma rather than vote for Trump. I think it is interesting that the OP would make such a poll given that she is always so concerned with exact wording and semantics. Apparently that is only important when defending Trump. I am not answering such a one-sided poll, and changing the words to "IF" after doesn't help. |
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 12, 2024 15:33:33 GMT
She created this poll knowing exactly what she was doing. She wants attention. You know the point of this poll is to keep people engaged with her. She loves this. The arguing and bickering is her catnip. I am normally against kink shaming anyone. But this dynamic she has created is weird. Cockeyed optimist that I am, I guess I keep hoping at some point she will be able to demonstrate that she's arguing in good faith. I've been disappointed so far. Well, there’s good faith and there’s pretense of good faith. The former needn’t be proved because it’s self-evident, whereas the latter requires the repeated feigning of honesty and objectivity. I’m certain you know as most of us subject’s preferred methodology. |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 12, 2024 16:17:10 GMT
Cockeyed optimist that I am, I guess I keep hoping at some point she will be able to demonstrate that she's arguing in good faith. I've been disappointed so far. Well, there’s good faith and there’s pretense of good faith. The former needn’t be proved because it’s self-evident, whereas the latter requires the repeated feigning of honesty and objectivity. I’m certain you know as most of us subject’s preferred methodology. Imagine engaging in nothing but personal attacks & about good faith debate and thinking you're actually scoring good faith debate points. |
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 12, 2024 16:38:13 GMT
NBC News Poll BEFORE the Special Counsel's report: “More than 3/4th of voters have major or moderate concerns about Biden’s mental and physical fitness — that includes 54% of Democrats.”
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Post by Merge on Feb 12, 2024 17:34:20 GMT
Well, there’s good faith and there’s pretense of good faith. The former needn’t be proved because it’s self-evident, whereas the latter requires the repeated feigning of honesty and objectivity. I’m certain you know as most of us subject’s preferred methodology. Imagine engaging in nothing but personal attacks & about good faith debate and thinking you're actually scoring good faith debate points. I'm sure you can prove us wrong by answering my simple question about what the point of all this is. What do you hope to accomplish? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 12, 2024 17:59:01 GMT
Biden fell off his bike while trying to talk to people in the crowd.
Doubtful that TFG has ever been able to ride a bike. If he did, not well.
Also always uses a golf cart!
So who is more physically fit?
Although, physical fitness should not be the turning point.
I am older then both of them. My mind is sharp! Legs, not so much. Five weeks in the hospital during Covid was not kind to them!
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 12, 2024 18:36:34 GMT
Imagine engaging in nothing but personal attacks & about good faith debate and thinking you're actually scoring good faith debate points. I'm sure you can prove us wrong by answering my simple question about what the point of all this is. What do you hope to accomplish? Yes, I absolutely can prove you wrong. From the very beginning, in the OP, I very specifically stated the reason why I created this poll. It's a stand alone sentence, it's not buried in a paragraph, so you shouldn't have been able to miss it. But if you somehow did... it was posted about 15 more times- between me repeating it a few times and it being quoted several times. I don't see how you could have HONESTLY missed it. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 12, 2024 20:46:39 GMT
I'm sure you can prove us wrong by answering my simple question about what the point of all this is. What do you hope to accomplish? Yes, I absolutely can prove you wrong. From the very beginning, in the OP, I very specifically stated the reason why I created this poll. It's a stand alone sentence, it's not buried in a paragraph, so you shouldn't have been able to miss it. But if you somehow did... it was posted about 15 more times- between me repeating it a few times and it being quoted several times. I don't see how you could have HONESTLY missed it. You stated that you made the poll so that people can answer anonymously. But you didn’t say what the purpose of asking this question is in the first place. Like, are you hoping to convince people to vote for Trump instead? Just feel like popping in and trying to stick it to the libs? Clearly you feel that Biden is too old to do the job and you’ve spent a lot of time here trying to prove that. Why? To what end? |
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Post by librarylady on Feb 12, 2024 20:50:14 GMT
Still waiting for the option "No significant decline."
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 12, 2024 22:06:50 GMT
Yes, I absolutely can prove you wrong. From the very beginning, in the OP, I very specifically stated the reason why I created this poll. It's a stand alone sentence, it's not buried in a paragraph, so you shouldn't have been able to miss it. But if you somehow did... it was posted about 15 more times- between me repeating it a few times and it being quoted several times. I don't see how you could have HONESTLY missed it. You stated that you made the poll so that people can answer anonymously. But you didn’t say what the purpose of asking this question is in the first place. Like, are you hoping to convince people to vote for Trump instead? Just feel like popping in and trying to stick it to the libs? Clearly you feel that Biden is too old to do the job and you’ve spent a lot of time here trying to prove that. Why? To what end? It has nothing to do with "sticking it to" anybody. I figured there were at least a few people that can see Biden is mentally declining more than normal, but didn't want to voice it because they didn't want to deal with the hostile confrontation. I wanted to see how many. |
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
But while I disagreed with that line of thinking entirely, at least I could understand the impetus behind it. The only thing I understand about voting for him now, after Trump proving us all right, is that they hate who he hates and don’t care what he has to do in his quest to hurt them.
