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Post by aj2hall on Mar 27, 2024 22:46:09 GMT
Trump knew his supporters were armed www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108387054/trump-said-he-knew-jan-6-crowd-members-had-weapons-ex-white-house-aide-testifiedGRISALES: Right. The committee shared police radio traffic from the day of the attack, documenting reports of individuals at the rally carrying weapons such as assault-style rifles.UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: Underneath the hooded jacket, complainants both saw a stock of an AR-15. He's going to be with a group of individuals, about 5'8", 5'9", skinny white males, brown cowboy boots. They had Glock-style pistols in their waistband.GRISALES: And this followed what Hutchinson told the committee was repeated warnings to the Trump White House that violence was expected. For example, she testified that Trump knew that members of the crowd had weapons, but that he didn't care. He said that they were not there to hurt him, and they could march to the Capitol after the rally.www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/us/politics/trump-meadows-jan-6-surprise-hearing.htmlCassidy Hutchinson told the House committee investigating the riot that President Donald J. Trump did not care about the potential for violence because his supporters were not there to attack him.Drawing from conversations she said she overheard in the West Wing and others contemporaneously relayed to her by top officials, Ms. Hutchinson, a 26-year-old who was an aide to Mark Meadows, Mr. Trump’s final chief of staff, provided crucial details about what the former president was doing and saying before and during the riot. She painted a portrait of an unhinged president obsessed with clinging to power and appearing strong, and willing to tolerate violence as a result — as long as it was not directed at him.“They’re not here to hurt me,” she testified that Mr. Trump said as he demanded that security checkpoints be removed outside his rally on the Ellipse on Jan. 6, knowing that many of his supporters were armed and threatening violence. “Take the f-ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here.”More than 1 Trump supporter was armed on January 6 www.politico.com/news/2023/04/17/jan-6-defendant-witness-00092475When Chris Alberts arrived on the grounds of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, then-President Donald Trump was still speaking to his supporters more than a mile away.
And as he told a jury on Monday, the entire time he was at the Capitol, he was armed with a concealed firearm and 25 rounds of ammunition, including hollow-point bullets.
www.nytimes.com/2024/03/08/us/politics/john-banuelos-jan-6-gun-charges.htmlProsecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day.
Guy Wesley Reffitt, a militiaman from Texas, was wearing a pistol on his hip when he led a charge of rioters up a staircase on the west side of the Capitol, according to testimony at his trial — the first of dozens to have taken place in Washington connected to the events of Jan. 6. Mr. Reffitt was ultimately convicted of a gun charge and other felonies and was sentenced to more than seven years in prison.
Among the other rioters who were carrying firearms on Jan. 6 are Christopher Alberts, a former Virginia National Guard member who charged the police outside the Capitol with a loaded 9-millimeter pistol, prosecutors say. Mr. Alberts was convicted of multiple felony charges and sentenced to seven years in prison.
A rioter named Mark Mazza brought two guns to the Capitol — a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol and a Taurus revolver loaded with shotgun shells and hollow-point bullets, prosecutors say. Mr. Mazza was sentenced to five years in prison.
www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/08/jan6-defendants-guns/Some of the startling revelations of the recent blockbuster Jan. 6 House committee hearing came in snippets of police radio traffic captured during President Donald Trump’s rally on the Ellipse and from Trump’s purported response to being told there were armed protesters just outside a secured area.
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The chatter included reports of a man with an AR-15 in a tree on Constitution Avenue who was accompanied by two men with pistols on their hips. Another officer radioed, “I’ve got three men walking down the street in fatigues carrying AR-15s, copy, at 14th and Independence.”
The full picture of how many among the crowd were armed before the riot occurred is unclear, but court records, trial testimony and accounts from police officers and rioters have supplied growing evidence that multiple people brought firearms to Washington for Jan. 6, 2021. Six men were arrested that day for having guns in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol, and a seventh who arrived after the riot ended was arrested the following day.
In video evidence played at his trial, Guy Reffitt of Wylie, Tex., said that as he stood near the front of the mob on the west side of the Capitol, he counted eight firearms carried by five people.
Reffitt said that his count included his .40-caliber pistol and his Texas companion’s .45-caliber handgun, five firearms carried by a couple he met at the Capitol and a .22-caliber weapon carried by a woman who stopped to help him after he was hit with bear spray. Reffitt was found guilty in March of encouraging one of the first surges by the mob to overwhelm police while carrying his semiautomatic handgun in a hip holster.
About 825 people have been charged federally in the Jan. 6 riot. Most have been charged with misdemeanor-type trespassing counts. Although only a handful have been charged with firearms violations, at least 121 people have been charged with using or carrying dangerous weapons, and about 20 have been found guilty, a Washington Post database shows. Scores of police officers reported being attacked that day with chemical spray, stun guns, flagpoles and clubs. A Florida man who hurled a fire extinguisher, a plank and a long pole at officers was sentenced to more than five years in prison in December, the longest sentence of any defendant so far.
Last month, Mark Andrew Mazza, 57, of Shelbyville, Ind., pleaded guilty to assaulting an officer with a baton and carrying a pistol without a license. Mazza told authorities that he lost his .45-caliber Taurus revolver loaded with shotgun shells and hollow-point bullets on the Capitol grounds during the mob fighting before entering the Capitol building.
In addition, Mark Ibrahim of Orange County, Calif., then a Drug Enforcement Administration agent, posed for photos with his DEA badge and a pistol inside his waistband on the Capitol grounds on Jan. 6, prosecutors have said. |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 27, 2024 23:14:26 GMT
President Biden's polling numbers are going up, his campaign is receiving record donations and he's squeezing campaign stops into his busy schedule while still governing. In comparison, Trump and the RNC are broke, facing mounting legal bills, donations are down and Trump has spent his time in courtrooms, golfing and hawking $60 bibles. 1 rally, courtrooms & golfing
Jessica: It is reflected in the polling on it, how much money Biden is fundraising and the kind of campaign that he is running. He’s been to every single swing state since the SOTU. Donald Trump has had that rally in Ohio otherwise he’s been in courtrooms and golfing
Trump sitting on golf cartMSNBC: President Biden has visited 8 swing states in just 18 days, campaigning vigorously. He's kicked off a blitz of travel in contrast with Trump sitting on a golf cart, barely on the road at all with smaller rallies. We don't hear Trump talking about the basement much anymore |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 27, 2024 23:17:53 GMT
In Trump's inner circle, 40 out of 44 of his advisors have not endorsed Trump. We should pay attention to the people that were closest to him. threat to democracyTrump’s former Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Trump: “And yes, I do regard him as a threat to democracy, democracy as we know it, our institutions, our political culture, all those things that make America great |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 27, 2024 23:40:41 GMT
normal aging & Trump's dementia"I honestly feel Americans are being gaslighted. They are pathologizing Biden normal aging. And then are ignoring Trump's signs of dementia."
THE most fascinating conversation yet. What is wrong with Trump's brain?? We have a mental health professional take us through his symptoms #jenrubinsgreenroom
@politicon. @applepodcasts
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 28, 2024 0:44:34 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 28, 2024 0:50:30 GMT
Trump knew his supporters were armed www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108387054/trump-said-he-knew-jan-6-crowd-members-had-weapons-ex-white-house-aide-testifiedGRISALES: Right. The committee shared police radio traffic from the day of the attack, documenting reports of individuals at the rally carrying weapons such as assault-style rifles.UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: Underneath the hooded jacket, complainants both saw a stock of an AR-15. He's going to be with a group of individuals, about 5'8", 5'9", skinny white males, brown cowboy boots. They had Glock-style pistols in their waistband.GRISALES: And this followed what Hutchinson told the committee was repeated warnings to the Trump White House that violence was expected. For example, she testified that Trump knew that members of the crowd had weapons, but that he didn't care. He said that they were not there to hurt him, and they could march to the Capitol after the rally.www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/us/politics/trump-meadows-jan-6-surprise-hearing.htmlCassidy Hutchinson told the House committee investigating the riot that President Donald J. Trump did not care about the potential for violence because his supporters were not there to attack him.Drawing from conversations she said she overheard in the West Wing and others contemporaneously relayed to her by top officials, Ms. Hutchinson, a 26-year-old who was an aide to Mark Meadows, Mr. Trump’s final chief of staff, provided crucial details about what the former president was doing and saying before and during the riot. She painted a portrait of an unhinged president obsessed with clinging to power and appearing strong, and willing to tolerate violence as a result — as long as it was not directed at him.“They’re not here to hurt me,” she testified that Mr. Trump said as he demanded that security checkpoints be removed outside his rally on the Ellipse on Jan. 6, knowing that many of his supporters were armed and threatening violence. “Take the f-ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here.”More than 1 Trump supporter was armed on January 6 www.politico.com/news/2023/04/17/jan-6-defendant-witness-00092475When Chris Alberts arrived on the grounds of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, then-President Donald Trump was still speaking to his supporters more than a mile away.
And as he told a jury on Monday, the entire time he was at the Capitol, he was armed with a concealed firearm and 25 rounds of ammunition, including hollow-point bullets.
www.nytimes.com/2024/03/08/us/politics/john-banuelos-jan-6-gun-charges.htmlProsecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day.
Guy Wesley Reffitt, a militiaman from Texas, was wearing a pistol on his hip when he led a charge of rioters up a staircase on the west side of the Capitol, according to testimony at his trial — the first of dozens to have taken place in Washington connected to the events of Jan. 6. Mr. Reffitt was ultimately convicted of a gun charge and other felonies and was sentenced to more than seven years in prison.
Among the other rioters who were carrying firearms on Jan. 6 are Christopher Alberts, a former Virginia National Guard member who charged the police outside the Capitol with a loaded 9-millimeter pistol, prosecutors say. Mr. Alberts was convicted of multiple felony charges and sentenced to seven years in prison.
A rioter named Mark Mazza brought two guns to the Capitol — a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol and a Taurus revolver loaded with shotgun shells and hollow-point bullets, prosecutors say. Mr. Mazza was sentenced to five years in prison.
www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/08/jan6-defendants-guns/Some of the startling revelations of the recent blockbuster Jan. 6 House committee hearing came in snippets of police radio traffic captured during President Donald Trump’s rally on the Ellipse and from Trump’s purported response to being told there were armed protesters just outside a secured area.
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The chatter included reports of a man with an AR-15 in a tree on Constitution Avenue who was accompanied by two men with pistols on their hips. Another officer radioed, “I’ve got three men walking down the street in fatigues carrying AR-15s, copy, at 14th and Independence.”
The full picture of how many among the crowd were armed before the riot occurred is unclear, but court records, trial testimony and accounts from police officers and rioters have supplied growing evidence that multiple people brought firearms to Washington for Jan. 6, 2021. Six men were arrested that day for having guns in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol, and a seventh who arrived after the riot ended was arrested the following day.
In video evidence played at his trial, Guy Reffitt of Wylie, Tex., said that as he stood near the front of the mob on the west side of the Capitol, he counted eight firearms carried by five people.
Reffitt said that his count included his .40-caliber pistol and his Texas companion’s .45-caliber handgun, five firearms carried by a couple he met at the Capitol and a .22-caliber weapon carried by a woman who stopped to help him after he was hit with bear spray. Reffitt was found guilty in March of encouraging one of the first surges by the mob to overwhelm police while carrying his semiautomatic handgun in a hip holster.
About 825 people have been charged federally in the Jan. 6 riot. Most have been charged with misdemeanor-type trespassing counts. Although only a handful have been charged with firearms violations, at least 121 people have been charged with using or carrying dangerous weapons, and about 20 have been found guilty, a Washington Post database shows. Scores of police officers reported being attacked that day with chemical spray, stun guns, flagpoles and clubs. A Florida man who hurled a fire extinguisher, a plank and a long pole at officers was sentenced to more than five years in prison in December, the longest sentence of any defendant so far.
Last month, Mark Andrew Mazza, 57, of Shelbyville, Ind., pleaded guilty to assaulting an officer with a baton and carrying a pistol without a license. Mazza told authorities that he lost his .45-caliber Taurus revolver loaded with shotgun shells and hollow-point bullets on the Capitol grounds during the mob fighting before entering the Capitol building.
In addition, Mark Ibrahim of Orange County, Calif., then a Drug Enforcement Administration agent, posed for photos with his DEA badge and a pistol inside his waistband on the Capitol grounds on Jan. 6, prosecutors have said.I stand corrected on the only 1 person had a gun. Corrected to 7 people arrested for having a gun. One of which was locked in his car somewhere else and another who wasn't even there when it was happening. It was a terrible day and should not have happened the way it did. I still think it was not "an armed insurrection" or the majority would have had firearms. Only 1 person was shot. An UNARMED protester shot by Capitol police and no one shot back. I don't believe that would have happened if they had showed up actually looking for an excuse to violently overthrow the government. Cassidy Hutchinson, who gave her Katie Britt like testimony of AGAIN what someone ELSE supposedly told her happened in The Beast? Her testimony that was debunked by the driver himself? I don't believe anything she has to say. |
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 28, 2024 0:52:29 GMT
normal aging & Trump's dementia"I honestly feel Americans are being gaslighted. They are pathologizing Biden normal aging. And then are ignoring Trump's signs of dementia."
THE most fascinating conversation yet. What is wrong with Trump's brain?? We have a mental health professional take us through his symptoms #jenrubinsgreenroom
@politicon. @applepodcasts
t.co/dSiU4szPYP I honestly see the gaslighting happening in the other direction. AFTER people started noticing Biden's mental decline. |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 28, 2024 3:27:57 GMT
These are not the actions of someone who accepted the election results. facts and law matterClear and convincing evidence Trump and Eastman engaged in a plot against America to overturn the election. Facts and law still matter.
Key conclusion:
"Most of his misconduct occurred squarely within the course and scope of Eastman’s representation of President Trump and culminated with a shared plan to obstruct the lawful function of the government."
"The evidence clearly and convincingly proves that Eastman and President Trump entered into an agreement to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress by unlawfully having Vice President Pence reject or delay the counting of electoral votes on January 6, 2021."
John Eastman, architect of Trump’s 2020 election plot, should be disbarred, judge rules |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 28, 2024 3:41:34 GMT
Just a recap of some of the things Trump did to overturn the results of the election. These are not the actions of someone who accepted the results of a free and fair election. These are the actions of a desperate man, unwilling to concede defeat. To this day, he continues to lie about the election and praises those convicted of crimes on January 6 as hostages, political prisoners and patriots. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/01/08/us/trump-2020-overturn-timeline.htmlDonald J. Trump pressured state and federal government officials to overturn results of the 2020 election in more than 30 phone calls or meetings, according to The Times’s analysis of the indictments related to those efforts.
The Times compiled every conversation between Mr. Trump and at least one other government official cited in the indictments.
Most of the officials repeatedly rejected his requests. But Mr. Trump kept asking.
He began, prosecutors said, by trying to convince GOP officials in swing states won by Joe Biden that the fraud was so rampant they needed to substitute Mr. Biden’s electors with slates that would support him.
He did so with several high-ranking Justice officials, including Attorney General Bill Barr; Jeffrey A. Rosen, the acting attorney general who replaced Mr. Barr; and Richard P. Donoghue, the deputy acting attorney general.
Days before Michigan was set to certify Mr. Biden’s victory, Mr. Trump summoned the leaders of the Michigan State Legislature to the White House.
He used a similar strategy with Rusty Bowers, Arizona’s Republican House speaker, according to prosecutors.
Mr. Trump made another attempt to persuade Mr. Bowers in a call shortly before Christmas.
In early December, Mr. Trump called Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and the state’s attorney general, Chris Carr, according to the indictments.
He later focused on Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, and Mr. Raffensperger’s chief investigator, who was investigating ballot signatures.
As his efforts with state officials floundered, Mr. Trump tried to persuade Justice Department officials “to open sham election crime investigations and influence state legislatures with knowingly false claims of election fraud,” prosecutors said.
As Jan. 6 neared, Mr. Trump became determined to persuade Vice President Mike Pence to block congressional certification of Mr. Biden’s victory. He conveyed this message in at least nine phone calls and meetings between Dec. 25 and the morning of Jan. 6.
Mr. Trump allegedly turned a Christmas call into a conversation about overturning the election, and berated Mr. Pence for being “too honest” on New Year’s Day.
Mr. Trump grew more and more frustrated with the vice president.
Less than an hour after his call with the vice president, Mr. Trump rallied supporters from a stage near the White House.
Soon after, a mob of Trump loyalists stormed and occupied the Capitol, bringing the final electoral count to a halt until order was restored in the building.
Hours later, Congress reconvened. Mr. Pence declared Mr. Biden the official winner at 3:41 a.m. the next day.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 28, 2024 3:45:54 GMT
Trump knew his supporters were armed www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108387054/trump-said-he-knew-jan-6-crowd-members-had-weapons-ex-white-house-aide-testifiedGRISALES: Right. The committee shared police radio traffic from the day of the attack, documenting reports of individuals at the rally carrying weapons such as assault-style rifles.UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: Underneath the hooded jacket, complainants both saw a stock of an AR-15. He's going to be with a group of individuals, about 5'8", 5'9", skinny white males, brown cowboy boots. They had Glock-style pistols in their waistband.GRISALES: And this followed what Hutchinson told the committee was repeated warnings to the Trump White House that violence was expected. For example, she testified that Trump knew that members of the crowd had weapons, but that he didn't care. He said that they were not there to hurt him, and they could march to the Capitol after the rally.www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/us/politics/trump-meadows-jan-6-surprise-hearing.htmlCassidy Hutchinson told the House committee investigating the riot that President Donald J. Trump did not care about the potential for violence because his supporters were not there to attack him.Drawing from conversations she said she overheard in the West Wing and others contemporaneously relayed to her by top officials, Ms. Hutchinson, a 26-year-old who was an aide to Mark Meadows, Mr. Trump’s final chief of staff, provided crucial details about what the former president was doing and saying before and during the riot. She painted a portrait of an unhinged president obsessed with clinging to power and appearing strong, and willing to tolerate violence as a result — as long as it was not directed at him.“They’re not here to hurt me,” she testified that Mr. Trump said as he demanded that security checkpoints be removed outside his rally on the Ellipse on Jan. 6, knowing that many of his supporters were armed and threatening violence. “Take the f-ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here.”More than 1 Trump supporter was armed on January 6 www.politico.com/news/2023/04/17/jan-6-defendant-witness-00092475When Chris Alberts arrived on the grounds of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, then-President Donald Trump was still speaking to his supporters more than a mile away.
And as he told a jury on Monday, the entire time he was at the Capitol, he was armed with a concealed firearm and 25 rounds of ammunition, including hollow-point bullets.
www.nytimes.com/2024/03/08/us/politics/john-banuelos-jan-6-gun-charges.htmlProsecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day.
Guy Wesley Reffitt, a militiaman from Texas, was wearing a pistol on his hip when he led a charge of rioters up a staircase on the west side of the Capitol, according to testimony at his trial — the first of dozens to have taken place in Washington connected to the events of Jan. 6. Mr. Reffitt was ultimately convicted of a gun charge and other felonies and was sentenced to more than seven years in prison.
Among the other rioters who were carrying firearms on Jan. 6 are Christopher Alberts, a former Virginia National Guard member who charged the police outside the Capitol with a loaded 9-millimeter pistol, prosecutors say. Mr. Alberts was convicted of multiple felony charges and sentenced to seven years in prison.
A rioter named Mark Mazza brought two guns to the Capitol — a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol and a Taurus revolver loaded with shotgun shells and hollow-point bullets, prosecutors say. Mr. Mazza was sentenced to five years in prison.
www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/08/jan6-defendants-guns/Some of the startling revelations of the recent blockbuster Jan. 6 House committee hearing came in snippets of police radio traffic captured during President Donald Trump’s rally on the Ellipse and from Trump’s purported response to being told there were armed protesters just outside a secured area.
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The chatter included reports of a man with an AR-15 in a tree on Constitution Avenue who was accompanied by two men with pistols on their hips. Another officer radioed, “I’ve got three men walking down the street in fatigues carrying AR-15s, copy, at 14th and Independence.”
The full picture of how many among the crowd were armed before the riot occurred is unclear, but court records, trial testimony and accounts from police officers and rioters have supplied growing evidence that multiple people brought firearms to Washington for Jan. 6, 2021. Six men were arrested that day for having guns in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol, and a seventh who arrived after the riot ended was arrested the following day.
In video evidence played at his trial, Guy Reffitt of Wylie, Tex., said that as he stood near the front of the mob on the west side of the Capitol, he counted eight firearms carried by five people.
Reffitt said that his count included his .40-caliber pistol and his Texas companion’s .45-caliber handgun, five firearms carried by a couple he met at the Capitol and a .22-caliber weapon carried by a woman who stopped to help him after he was hit with bear spray. Reffitt was found guilty in March of encouraging one of the first surges by the mob to overwhelm police while carrying his semiautomatic handgun in a hip holster.
About 825 people have been charged federally in the Jan. 6 riot. Most have been charged with misdemeanor-type trespassing counts. Although only a handful have been charged with firearms violations, at least 121 people have been charged with using or carrying dangerous weapons, and about 20 have been found guilty, a Washington Post database shows. Scores of police officers reported being attacked that day with chemical spray, stun guns, flagpoles and clubs. A Florida man who hurled a fire extinguisher, a plank and a long pole at officers was sentenced to more than five years in prison in December, the longest sentence of any defendant so far.
Last month, Mark Andrew Mazza, 57, of Shelbyville, Ind., pleaded guilty to assaulting an officer with a baton and carrying a pistol without a license. Mazza told authorities that he lost his .45-caliber Taurus revolver loaded with shotgun shells and hollow-point bullets on the Capitol grounds during the mob fighting before entering the Capitol building.
In addition, Mark Ibrahim of Orange County, Calif., then a Drug Enforcement Administration agent, posed for photos with his DEA badge and a pistol inside his waistband on the Capitol grounds on Jan. 6, prosecutors have said.I stand corrected on the only 1 person had a gun. Corrected to 7 people arrested for having a gun. One of which was locked in his car somewhere else and another who wasn't even there when it was happening. It was a terrible day and should not have happened the way it did. I still think it was not "an armed insurrection" or the majority would have had firearms. Only 1 person was shot. An UNARMED protester shot by Capitol police and no one shot back. I don't believe that would have happened if they had showed up actually looking for an excuse to violently overthrow the government. Cassidy Hutchinson, who gave her Katie Britt like testimony of AGAIN what someone ELSE supposedly told her happened in The Beast? Her testimony that was debunked by the driver himself? I don't believe anything she has to say. You should look up the definition of “armed”. Based on the “weapons” used by those who attacked the Capital they were indeed “armed”. |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 28, 2024 3:46:04 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 28, 2024 6:11:17 GMT
Biden's tomorrow vs. Trump's tomorrow: Trump will be attending the wake of a slain NY police officer. Biden will be partying with celebrities. Twitter |
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Post by Merge on Mar 28, 2024 12:50:59 GMT
Biden's tomorrow vs. Trump's tomorrow: Trump will be attending the wake of a slain NY police officer. Biden will be partying with celebrities. Twitter Using a wake as a free campaign event since he can’t afford actual campaign events any more and donations have dried up. Pretty gross if you ask me. |
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Post by Merge on Mar 28, 2024 13:01:31 GMT
I stand corrected on the only 1 person had a gun. Corrected to 7 people arrested for having a gun. One of which was locked in his car somewhere else and another who wasn't even there when it was happening. It was a terrible day and should not have happened the way it did. I still think it was not "an armed insurrection" or the majority would have had firearms. Only 1 person was shot. An UNARMED protester shot by Capitol police and no one shot back. I don't believe that would have happened if they had showed up actually looking for an excuse to violently overthrow the government. Cassidy Hutchinson, who gave her Katie Britt like testimony of AGAIN what someone ELSE supposedly told her happened in The Beast? Her testimony that was debunked by the driver himself? I don't believe anything she has to say. You should look up the definition of “armed”. Based on the “weapons” used by those who attacked the Capital they were indeed “armed”. A flagpole, for example, can be used to beat a police officer. Bear spray can be used to disable them. Used in those contexts, they met the definition of “arms.” www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna103995apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-peter-stager-sentencing-flagpole-01ab86604d3e25be81483fa5433f87baThen there was the guy who used a taser on an officer. abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/jan-6-rioter-stun-gun-officer-sentenced-12/story?id=100284409There’s also the part where Trump was told that the big crowd of supporters outside the gates at his rally hadn’t been able to get through security because they were carrying banned items. What do you suppose those items were? Trump knew the crowd had them. He was told. www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/trump-jan-6-rally-driver-testified-00146630 |
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Post by Merge on Mar 28, 2024 13:41:22 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 28, 2024 14:13:09 GMT
Biden's tomorrow vs. Trump's tomorrow: Trump will be attending the wake of a slain NY police officer. Biden will be partying with celebrities. Twitter In all seriousness if anyone thinks trump gives a damn about the dead police officer then they are not the brightest 💡 on the block. This is nothing but a photo op to try and convince people like you that he cares. When in fact he doesn’t. To answer the question you refuse to answer, the answer is no, trump is not a compassionate person in any way, shape or form. |
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 28, 2024 14:38:23 GMT
Biden's tomorrow vs. Trump's tomorrow: Trump will be attending the wake of a slain NY police officer. Biden will be partying with celebrities. Twitter In all seriousness if anyone thinks trump gives a damn about the dead police officer then they are not the brightest 💡 on the block. This is nothing but a photo op to try and convince people like you that he cares. When in fact he doesn’t. To answer the question you refuse to answer, the answer is no, trump is not a compassionate person in any way, shape or form. pretty sure he will find a way to make it about himself or say something inappropriate If he genuinely cared about police officers, he would not have made all of the insulting comments about the FBI. Or insulted police officers when he said they were too afraid to do something about terrorism. |
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 28, 2024 14:59:36 GMT
Biden's tomorrow vs. Trump's tomorrow: Trump will be attending the wake of a slain NY police officer. Biden will be partying with celebrities. Twitter Using a wake as a free campaign event since he can’t afford actual campaign events any more and donations have dried up. Pretty gross if you ask me. Councilwoman Vickie Paladino @vickiefornyc Another officer murdered on the job for nothing more than a traffic stop. Another murderer with a long rap sheet and multiple releases. Let’s be crystal clear: Every Democrat who voted for or supports criminal justice reform has P.O. Jonathan Diller’s blood on their hands. P.O. Diller doesn’t get a second chance. He doesn’t get leniency. There isn’t a DA that can cut him loose, or a nonprofit to advocate for him, or a judge to reduce his sentence. He won’t get any of that because he’s dead, thanks to an animal who DID get the benefit of all those things, repeatedly. And those who made it possible for P.O. Diller to be murdered tonight simply don’t care. That’s a fact. Sure some of them might post some boilerplate condolences, but they don’t actually care. Not really. Because if they did they’d take immediate action to change the policies which enabled this horror, and dozens just like it. But they won’t. In a day or so they’ll go right back to smirking about ‘fearmongering’ and ‘systemic racism’ as they proceed to cheerfully dismantle the NYPD, empty our jails, excuse career criminals, erase the gang database, and lower parole standards to release as many violent felons from prison as possible. The wages of progressivism cannot be ignored any longer. As we grieve another brave officer who will never hold his child again, let us hold accountable those who enabled his murderer to walk freely. Enough. Twitter |
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 28, 2024 15:56:07 GMT
FWIW my inlaws grew up in the same neighborhood as Trump at the same time (FIL knew him from school, and they also attended the “military academy” together). They have the exact same accent as Trump and historically had the exact same speech patterns. MIL now has dementia. She sounds exactly like Trump sounds now, just female, rambling in exactly the same ways, misusing words the same way. It is unnerving in both directions.
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Post by Merge on Mar 28, 2024 16:03:40 GMT
Councilwoman Vickie Paladino @vickiefornyc Another officer murdered on the job for nothing more than a traffic stop. Another murderer with a long rap sheet and multiple releases. Let’s be crystal clear: Every Democrat who voted for or supports criminal justice reform has P.O. Jonathan Diller’s blood on their hands. P.O. Diller doesn’t get a second chance. He doesn’t get leniency. There isn’t a DA that can cut him loose, or a nonprofit to advocate for him, or a judge to reduce his sentence. He won’t get any of that because he’s dead, thanks to an animal who DID get the benefit of all those things, repeatedly. And those who made it possible for P.O. Diller to be murdered tonight simply don’t care. That’s a fact. Sure some of them might post some boilerplate condolences, but they don’t actually care. Not really. Because if they did they’d take immediate action to change the policies which enabled this horror, and dozens just like it. But they won’t. In a day or so they’ll go right back to smirking about ‘fearmongering’ and ‘systemic racism’ as they proceed to cheerfully dismantle the NYPD, empty our jails, excuse career criminals, erase the gang database, and lower parole standards to release as many violent felons from prison as possible. The wages of progressivism cannot be ignored any longer. As we grieve another brave officer who will never hold his child again, let us hold accountable those who enabled his murderer to walk freely. Enough. Twitter If you think Trump gives a crap about the officer in this case, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. There is no excusing what the killer did, and he will justly spend the rest of his life in prison, I suspect. But your girl up there is playing pretty fast and loose with the facts. "Rivera was released from a New York prison in 2021 after serving five years for criminal possession of a controlled substance, according to state records. He *served time* for nonviolent possession, which likely reduced his job opportunities and further hardened him as a criminal. Despite what your girl up there suggests, he was not just released back on the street, unless your contention is that everyone who commits any crime should spend life in prison. "He also served time in 2011 for first-degree assault and was released in 2014." He *served time.* "He was being driven by Jones, who also had a string of arrests to his name, most recently for possessing a loaded firearm in April 2023. Less than a year, he's back on the streets with another gun," New York City Mayor Eric Adams said at a press conference." That’s certainly a problem for me. But it’s my understanding that Republicans believe that every American, regardless of their history, should be able to freely walk the streets with a loaded firearm. That's certainly what we hear from Republicans in Texas. So you and the council member are going to have to tell me how the fact that he had a gun was a progressive problem. If it was up to you all, NY would have no gun control whatsoever. This is the world you want. Despite your claims, progressives do not want violent criminals out on the street. That's why we fought so hard to lock up the violent insurrectionists of January 6 who also attacked police officers (despite the fact that Trump and Republicans wanted them to go free). We do recognize the flaws inherent in a for-profit prison system, we do recognize that our justice system is often racist, and we do recognize that our prison system is not designed to rehabilitate, but instead makes career criminals out of first time offenders because the people who own the prisons profit when they offend again. jacobin.com/2022/10/gop-governors-cannabis-pardon-private-prison-donors-profit-drug-war(Private prison owners' donations also play a large part in Republicans' desire to paint all immigrants as criminals and incarcerate them upon arrival: apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-election-2020-houston-ap-top-news-ca-state-wire-ca7f6e9fac1f287bb79ae55410112c46.)(Remind me again who is defunding prisons? www.texastribune.org/2022/10/27/operation-lone-star-greg-abbott-budget/)Progressives also recognize the role that generational poverty plays in crime rates, and push policies to mitigate poverty as much as possible. Republicans cling to the old saw that trickle-down economics (tax cuts for the rich!) will end poverty, but 40 years after Reagan, we should be willing to call that strategy the failure it is. So please spare us your supposed concern about crime, police officers, prisons, etc. The only interest Republicans have in the criminal justice system is in disproportionately incarcerating racial minorities (a form of voter suppression in some places) and in funneling profits to their donors in the private prison system. They couldn't care less about crime victims, or they'd actually push policies that rehabilitate people and prevent crime. Sad that you believe their lies. |
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Post by Merge on Mar 28, 2024 19:10:16 GMT
I know that everyone here will be shocked to learn that Trump did, indeed, turn the officer's wake into a free campaign event and political stunt. Absolutely classless. He couldn't just show up and pay his respects - he always has to make it about him. x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1773424127505748061?s=20Ron asks the salient question: what did Trump do during his four lawless years in office to stop this? What does he believe Biden should have done? |
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Post by Merge on Mar 28, 2024 19:59:50 GMT
Republicans are still talking about “Bidenflation” instead of corporate greed because they think Americans are stupid.  |
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Post by Just T on Mar 28, 2024 21:07:36 GMT
Republicans are still talking about “Bidenflation” instead of corporate greed because they think Americans are stupid. Unfortunately, a lot of them DO think we are stupid. I'm already seeing all of my right winger family members on FB writing about how we need to think of Bidenflation when we vote in November. One of my uncles, who is probably the most far left leaning person I know, linked an article about how Walmart raised their Great Value brand prices and how many billions that made for their share holders, and my cousin who had originally posted, deleted his comment. So dumb. |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 28, 2024 22:01:35 GMT
Using a wake as a free campaign event since he can’t afford actual campaign events any more and donations have dried up. Pretty gross if you ask me. Councilwoman Vickie Paladino @vickiefornyc Another officer murdered on the job for nothing more than a traffic stop. Another murderer with a long rap sheet and multiple releases. Let’s be crystal clear: Every Democrat who voted for or supports criminal justice reform has P.O. Jonathan Diller’s blood on their hands. P.O. Diller doesn’t get a second chance. He doesn’t get leniency. There isn’t a DA that can cut him loose, or a nonprofit to advocate for him, or a judge to reduce his sentence. He won’t get any of that because he’s dead, thanks to an animal who DID get the benefit of all those things, repeatedly. And those who made it possible for P.O. Diller to be murdered tonight simply don’t care. That’s a fact. Sure some of them might post some boilerplate condolences, but they don’t actually care. Not really. Because if they did they’d take immediate action to change the policies which enabled this horror, and dozens just like it. But they won’t. In a day or so they’ll go right back to smirking about ‘fearmongering’ and ‘systemic racism’ as they proceed to cheerfully dismantle the NYPD, empty our jails, excuse career criminals, erase the gang database, and lower parole standards to release as many violent felons from prison as possible. The wages of progressivism cannot be ignored any longer. As we grieve another brave officer who will never hold his child again, let us hold accountable those who enabled his murderer to walk freely. Enough. Twitter “ DOJ finds police officer’s suicide after Jan. 6 attack was a death in the line of duty”On January 6 trump supporters attacked the Capital building with the intent to stop the certification of the election. These individuals attacked the Capital police using flag poles and anything they could use as a weapon against these individuals tasked with protecting the Capital and the folks in it. Those who attacked the Capital that have been charged and had their day in court are referred to as “January 6 hostages” by trump and his followers. trump on more than one occasion has promised that if elected on day one after assumes his dictatorship role he will pardon these individuals. Individuals who either directly attacked the CP or aided others who did. Do you not understand the hypocrisy of trump showing up to the funeral of this officer and uttering those words that he does not mean? Because if he meant the words he said today he would have condemned the actions of the January 6 rioters which he has never done. Indeed he is promising to pardon them. |
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Post by lucyg on Mar 28, 2024 22:52:20 GMT
Biden's tomorrow vs. Trump's tomorrow: Trump will be attending the wake of a slain NY police officer. Biden will be partying with celebrities. Twitter Let me translate that into English for you. Trump will demand to be treated like a celebrity at the wake for the slain police officer. Has he even asked the family’s permission or just publicly announced he’ll be there? Plenty of police families would refuse to have him present. Mine certainly would. If he actually is present, he will demand to speak. And he will speak for a moment about the slain officer - if that - and then go on for an hour about himself and how great he is. Completely inappropriate for a law enforcement funeral, or any funeral. President Biden will be going about his business and not further disrupting a very difficult occasion for the family and the PD in order to aggrandize himself. |
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Post by lucyg on Mar 28, 2024 22:58:06 GMT
Councilwoman Vickie Paladino @vickiefornyc Another officer murdered on the job for nothing more than a traffic stop. Another murderer with a long rap sheet and multiple releases. Let’s be crystal clear: Every Democrat who voted for or supports criminal justice reform has P.O. Jonathan Diller’s blood on their hands. P.O. Diller doesn’t get a second chance. He doesn’t get leniency. There isn’t a DA that can cut him loose, or a nonprofit to advocate for him, or a judge to reduce his sentence. He won’t get any of that because he’s dead, thanks to an animal who DID get the benefit of all those things, repeatedly. And those who made it possible for P.O. Diller to be murdered tonight simply don’t care. That’s a fact. Sure some of them might post some boilerplate condolences, but they don’t actually care. Not really. Because if they did they’d take immediate action to change the policies which enabled this horror, and dozens just like it. But they won’t. In a day or so they’ll go right back to smirking about ‘fearmongering’ and ‘systemic racism’ as they proceed to cheerfully dismantle the NYPD, empty our jails, excuse career criminals, erase the gang database, and lower parole standards to release as many violent felons from prison as possible. The wages of progressivism cannot be ignored any longer. As we grieve another brave officer who will never hold his child again, let us hold accountable those who enabled his murderer to walk freely. Enough. Twitter If you think Trump gives a crap about the officer in this case, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. There is no excusing what the killer did, and he will justly spend the rest of his life in prison, I suspect. But your girl up there is playing pretty fast and loose with the facts. "Rivera was released from a New York prison in 2021 after serving five years for criminal possession of a controlled substance, according to state records. He *served time* for nonviolent possession, which likely reduced his job opportunities and further hardened him as a criminal. Despite what your girl up there suggests, he was not just released back on the street, unless your contention is that everyone who commits any crime should spend life in prison. "He also served time in 2011 for first-degree assault and was released in 2014." He *served time.* "He was being driven by Jones, who also had a string of arrests to his name, most recently for possessing a loaded firearm in April 2023. Less than a year, he's back on the streets with another gun," New York City Mayor Eric Adams said at a press conference." That’s certainly a problem for me. But it’s my understanding that Republicans believe that every American, regardless of their history, should be able to freely walk the streets with a loaded firearm. That's certainly what we hear from Republicans in Texas. So you and the council member are going to have to tell me how the fact that he had a gun was a progressive problem. If it was up to you all, NY would have no gun control whatsoever. This is the world you want. Despite your claims, progressives do not want violent criminals out on the street. That's why we fought so hard to lock up the violent insurrectionists of January 6 who also attacked police officers (despite the fact that Trump and Republicans wanted them to go free). We do recognize the flaws inherent in a for-profit prison system, we do recognize that our justice system is often racist, and we do recognize that our prison system is not designed to rehabilitate, but instead makes career criminals out of first time offenders because the people who own the prisons profit when they offend again. jacobin.com/2022/10/gop-governors-cannabis-pardon-private-prison-donors-profit-drug-war(Private prison owners' donations also play a large part in Republicans' desire to paint all immigrants as criminals and incarcerate them upon arrival: apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-election-2020-houston-ap-top-news-ca-state-wire-ca7f6e9fac1f287bb79ae55410112c46.)(Remind me again who is defunding prisons? www.texastribune.org/2022/10/27/operation-lone-star-greg-abbott-budget/)Progressives also recognize the role that generational poverty plays in crime rates, and push policies to mitigate poverty as much as possible. Republicans cling to the old saw that trickle-down economics (tax cuts for the rich!) will end poverty, but 40 years after Reagan, we should be willing to call that strategy the failure it is. So please spare us your supposed concern about crime, police officers, prisons, etc. The only interest Republicans have in the criminal justice system is in disproportionately incarcerating racial minorities (a form of voter suppression in some places) and in funneling profits to their donors in the private prison system. They couldn't care less about crime victims, or they'd actually push policies that rehabilitate people and prevent crime. Sad that you believe their lies. I believe I have standing in this area to comment on morecowbell’s and the councilwoman’s reprehensible statements about whether or not everyone in our society really has a right to express an opinion they don’t like. And I just want to say that this lefty-ish moderate agrees 100% with every word Merge has to say. 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Post by lucyg on Mar 28, 2024 23:13:00 GMT
I know that everyone here will be shocked to learn that Trump did, indeed, turn the officer's wake into a free campaign event and political stunt. Absolutely classless. He couldn't just show up and pay his respects - he always has to make it about him. x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1773424127505748061?s=20Ron asks the salient question: what did Trump do during his four lawless years in office to stop this? What does he believe Biden should have done? Oh, I almost missed this. Because of course he did. He is a monster. Does he even know this officer’s name? Note to morecowbell: no one wants a president to speak at their fallen officer’s funeral. They want respect and decorum, not political grandstanding. I attended a police officer’s funeral a couple of months ago. The state AG had to speak, because they refused to have the mayor, she is so hated. (You’d love it, she’s a wild-eyed flaming anti-police progressive, and she’s going to get her ass kicked at the next election.) The AG, who actually is from our city, had the effing common sense to speak for less than ten minutes about what a hero the officer was, and then got the hell off the stage. Even though he’s one of your detested progressives. |
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Post by lindas on Mar 28, 2024 23:55:39 GMT
I don’t know if Trump spoke at the funeral but he was an invited guest along with Mayor Adams. As far as Biden going about his business, many NYPD officers were unable to attend their slain brother’s funeral because they had to work security and crowd control for Biden’s star-studded fundraiser at Radio City.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 29, 2024 0:25:29 GMT
Today was just the first day of visitation for the fallen officer. There are more hours tomorrow. Also, while security was needed before the Radio City Music Hall event, the event itself did not start until 8 pm, hours after the visitation today. And the Radio City Music Hall event was likely planned months ago. That really seems like a stretch to try to blame President Biden for fellow officers not being able to attend.
This isn't directed at anyone specifically, but a lot of the grumbling about the event from conservatives sounds like jealousy. President Biden is bringing in tons of money in donations, he's supported by fellow Democrats who are good surrogates for him and will be campaigning for him. In comparison, Trump is isolated and his campaign is hemorrhaging money. They're spending money on his mounting legal bills faster than they can bring it in. Trump hawking $60 bibles will only get them so far. Only 4 out of 44 of Trump's former advisors supported and endorsed him.
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Post by Merge on Mar 29, 2024 0:25:45 GMT
I don’t know if Trump spoke at the funeral but he was an invited guest along with Mayor Adams. As far as Biden going about his business, many NYPD officers were unable to attend their slain brother’s funeral because they had to work security and crowd control for Biden’s star-studded fundraiser at Radio City. You mean do their jobs? I'm guessing a number of them would have had to work regardless. It's not like NYPD just shuts down for an officer funeral. |
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