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Post by aj2hall on Mar 21, 2024 21:32:10 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 22, 2024 0:01:58 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 25, 2024 21:48:40 GMT
Not at all. Just noting that you continue to confirm that the hostile majority only want an information bubble here, and will not tolerate any real discussion that interferes with the only approved narrative. Nope. You posted "information" that was false. Nope. I posted 2 absolute facts, that supported my OPINION. Yes, it would be. I gave facts and an opinion, just like everyone else here does. I'm sorry that being faced with differing opinion is so perplexing to you. That wasn't a lie, it was an opinion. Since you seem to be so confused, a lie would be clipping the full context off of something someone said, in a video, and presenting it as something entirely different than what was actually said. Something that the part you clipped off would have debunked. THAT is a lie. #bloodbath I hope that clears it up for you. Maybe you can have someone you trust read this to you. Someone you trust to tell you the unvarnished truth about what it is that you are ACTUALLY objecting to. Hint: not a lie, an opinion.
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 25, 2024 22:02:16 GMT
Not at all. Just noting that you continue to confirm that the hostile majority only want an information bubble here, and will not tolerate any real discussion that interferes with the only approved narrative. No, you refuse to accept that the majority doesn’t agree with you. I stated two facts that supported my opinion. Just like every single person here does. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with a difference of opinion. Are you thinking for some reason that no one has any business disagreeing with what those of you on left see/believe? Because I did nothing more than give MY opinion on what *I* see/believe. Is that only allowed in one direction? Take your own advice. We've been here before. The time I walked away for 4 days and YOU restarted the discussion to tell me that *I* need to know when to walk away. The reality YOU refuse to accept is that, based on your CONSTANT objection to differing opinion itself vs. the topic, you are very clearly projecting your own issues with difference of opinion.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 25, 2024 22:40:42 GMT
No, you refuse to accept that the majority doesn’t agree with you. I stated two facts that supported my opinion. Just like every single person here does. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with a difference of opinion. Are you thinking for some reason that no one has any business disagreeing with what those of you on left see/believe? Because I did nothing more than give MY opinion on what *I* see/believe. Is that only allowed in one direction? Take your own advice. We've been here before. The time I walked away for 4 days and YOU restarted the discussion to tell me that *I* need to know when to walk away. The reality YOU refuse to accept is that, based on your CONSTANT objection to differing opinion itself vs. the topic, you are very clearly projecting your own issues with difference of opinion. You just proved my point. Thanks.
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 25, 2024 22:40:53 GMT
Not at all. Just noting that you continue to confirm that the hostile majority only want an information bubble here, and will not tolerate any real discussion that interferes with the only approved narrative. You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own set of facts. If you post something so obviously false like that, it's unreasonable to expect that no one will disagree with you. You know that if any of us posted something completely false about Trump, you would jump all over it. For someone who insists on precision and accuracy, it's ironic that you are kind of loose with the facts in your own posts. I stated an opinion supported by 2 facts. Fact: He left the White House. Fact: He is not the president. Opinion: He accepted the results. You dispute those facts? Based on your standards then, we also have to take a look at the "many ways" in which Hillary, Left leaning media, and those on the Left "tried to overturn the 2016 election." No you haven't. You aren't fooling anyone. These among many others, are not examples of "genuinely trying to have a discussion": "OK, now I think you've really gone off the deep end." "You are more far gone than we realized."
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 25, 2024 22:42:35 GMT
I stated two facts that supported my opinion. Just like every single person here does. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with a difference of opinion. Are you thinking for some reason that no one has any business disagreeing with what those of you on left see/believe? Because I did nothing more than give MY opinion on what *I* see/believe. Is that only allowed in one direction? Take your own advice. We've been here before. The time I walked away for 4 days and YOU restarted the discussion to tell me that *I* need to know when to walk away. The reality YOU refuse to accept is that, based on your CONSTANT objection to differing opinion itself vs. the topic, you are very clearly projecting your own issues with difference of opinion. You just proved my point. Thanks. What point is that? Or is that the standard answer when you still have nothing substantive to say?
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 25, 2024 22:54:58 GMT
When you personally, and those on the Left, repeatedly use videos that clip the pertinent context off of something someone said, in order to present it as something entirely different than what was actually said. Something that the part you clipped off would have debunked, then you do not hold the moral high ground here.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 25, 2024 23:03:17 GMT
Not at all. Just noting that you continue to confirm that the hostile majority only want an information bubble here, and will not tolerate any real discussion that interferes with the only approved narrative. No, you refuse to accept that the majority doesn’t agree with you. You also refuse to accept what those of us on left see/believe. When that point is reached the best course of action is to acknowledge we agree to disagree and move on. Instead of doing that what you continue to do which is instead of walking away. The only real discussion you are interested in is if everyone agrees with you otherwise not so much. The reality you refuse to accept is not everybody is going to agree with you. Nor is everybody going to agree with me or anyone else who posts on this board. That’s just the way it is and one needs to understand that. This point morecowbell.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 25, 2024 23:12:19 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 25, 2024 23:25:24 GMT
No, you refuse to accept that the majority doesn’t agree with you. You also refuse to accept what those of us on left see/believe. When that point is reached the best course of action is to acknowledge we agree to disagree and move on. Instead of doing that what you continue to do which is instead of walking away. The only real discussion you are interested in is if everyone agrees with you otherwise not so much. The reality you refuse to accept is not everybody is going to agree with you. Nor is everybody going to agree with me or anyone else who posts on this board. That’s just the way it is and one needs to understand that. This point morecowbell . I stated two facts that supported my opinion. Just like every single person here does. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with a difference of opinion. Are you thinking for some reason that no one has any business disagreeing with what those of you on left see/believe? Because I did nothing more than give MY opinion on what *I* see/believe. Is that only allowed in one direction? Take your own advice. We've been here before. The time I walked away for 4 days and YOU restarted the discussion to tell me that *I* need to know when to walk away. The reality YOU refuse to accept is that, based on your CONSTANT objection to differing opinion itself vs. the topic, you are very clearly projecting your own issues with difference of opinion. Those 4 paragraphs show that I didn't prove ANY point that you made. Nice try.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 25, 2024 23:46:09 GMT
I stated two facts that supported my opinion. Just like every single person here does. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with a difference of opinion. Are you thinking for some reason that no one has any business disagreeing with what those of you on left see/believe? Because I did nothing more than give MY opinion on what *I* see/believe. Is that only allowed in one direction? Take your own advice. We've been here before. The time I walked away for 4 days and YOU restarted the discussion to tell me that *I* need to know when to walk away. The reality YOU refuse to accept is that, based on your CONSTANT objection to differing opinion itself vs. the topic, you are very clearly projecting your own issues with difference of opinion. Those 4 paragraphs show that I didn't prove ANY point that you made. Nice try. 😀 IMO you did prove my point. So we are going to disagree on this and I’m walking away. 👋
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 26, 2024 0:03:19 GMT
I stated two facts that supported my opinion. Just like every single person here does. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with a difference of opinion. Are you thinking for some reason that no one has any business disagreeing with what those of you on left see/believe? Because I did nothing more than give MY opinion on what *I* see/believe. Is that only allowed in one direction? Take your own advice. We've been here before. The time I walked away for 4 days and YOU restarted the discussion to tell me that *I* need to know when to walk away. The reality YOU refuse to accept is that, based on your CONSTANT objection to differing opinion itself vs. the topic, you are very clearly projecting your own issues with difference of opinion. Those 4 paragraphs show that I didn't prove ANY point that you made. Nice try. 😀 IMO you did prove my point. So we are going to disagree on this and I’m walking away. 👋 This alone disproves any point you need to pretend that you made: "Because I did nothing more than give MY opinion on what *I* see/believe. Is that only allowed in one direction?"
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2024 0:47:22 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2024 0:51:56 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2024 1:03:49 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2024 1:18:00 GMT
From the guy who received a minimum of $7.8 million from foreign entities when he was president. foreign money
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2024 1:27:48 GMT
You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own set of facts. If you post something so obviously false like that, it's unreasonable to expect that no one will disagree with you. You know that if any of us posted something completely false about Trump, you would jump all over it. For someone who insists on precision and accuracy, it's ironic that you are kind of loose with the facts in your own posts. I stated an opinion supported by 2 facts. Fact: He left the White House. Fact: He is not the president. Opinion: He accepted the results. You dispute those facts? Based on your standards then, we also have to take a look at the "many ways" in which Hillary, Left leaning media, and those on the Left "tried to overturn the 2016 election." No you haven't. You aren't fooling anyone. These among many others, are not examples of "genuinely trying to have a discussion": "OK, now I think you've really gone off the deep end." "You are more far gone than we realized." You're conveniently forgetting or neglecting some really important glaring facts. Trump did not participate in a peaceful transfer of power. He did not attend President Biden's inauguration. He never conceded the election. He incited a violent insurrection to disrupt the counting of the electoral college votes. Trump tried to overthrow the results of the election he called the Georgia governor to pressure him to "find" 11,000 votes None of those actions are accepting the results Regarding Hillary, you're making another false premise, false comparison, false conclusion. both sided
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2024 2:42:16 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2024 2:52:46 GMT
wannabe dictatorRon DeSantis dropped out of the presidential race more than 2 months ago, but Trump will never forget and forgive to anyone who dared to challenge him.
A few days ago Trump compared the FL governor to ISIS: “We hit him hard" like we did "to ISIS."
This morning Trump called for a primary challenger against GOP Rep. Laurel Lee. Her crime? She endorsed DeSantis in the Republican primaries. It doesn't matter that she endorsed Trump after DeSantis dropped out, wannabe dictator Trump will never forget: “Any great MAGA Republicans looking to run against Laurel Lee in Florida’s 15th Congressional District? IF SO, PLEASE STEP FORWARD!” Trump wrote on Truth Social.
So much for the whole unity thing.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2024 3:11:08 GMT
not exaggeratingFmr. Trump WH aide @casshutchinson "We're not catastrophizing what a second Trump term could look like. We’re not lying or overexaggerating his lack of character and how devoid he is of any emotion. We’re telling the truth about all of this.”
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 27, 2024 1:06:31 GMT
I stated an opinion supported by 2 facts. Fact: He left the White House. Fact: He is not the president. Opinion: He accepted the results. You dispute those facts? Based on your standards then, we also have to take a look at the "many ways" in which Hillary, Left leaning media, and those on the Left "tried to overturn the 2016 election." No you haven't. You aren't fooling anyone. These among many others, are not examples of "genuinely trying to have a discussion": "OK, now I think you've really gone off the deep end." "You are more far gone than we realized." You're conveniently forgetting or neglecting some really important glaring facts. You mean I'm neglecting your INTERPRETATION of things. Here's where I'm coming from: Yes, he did. He gave a nice concession speech. He left the White House. Something the Left kept saying he wouldn't do. He left a nice letter for biden as is customary. He decided not to go AFTER learning that they were not going to let him attend. "Mitch McConnell felt he could not give Trump another opportunity to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power." Business Insider From ABC NEWS "McConnell wanted to get a letter together from the top four congressional leaders informing Trump that he had been disinvited." To say that he did not is an outright lie. YES, absolutely did. I disagree. Someone inciting violence doesn't "call on people to go peacefully". Someone inciting violence doesn't call for 10,000 national guard to be in attendance in order to PREVENT violence.
You assume "find" automatically means "falsify"? I don’t. What you mean is "none of your INTERPRETATIONS of those actions are accepting the results." Based on your own standards, it is not a false comparison, at all. Based on your own standards, saying it's a false comparison is nothing more than applying your standard in only one direction. Which is dishonest. You said: So, we have to apply your standards to the "many ways" in which Hillary, Left leaning media, and those on the Left "tried to overturn the 2016 election." The fact is, that is exactly what YOU did.
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Post by mollycoddle on Mar 27, 2024 1:42:45 GMT
not exaggeratingFmr. Trump WH aide @casshutchinson "We're not catastrophizing what a second Trump term could look like. We’re not lying or overexaggerating his lack of character and how devoid he is of any emotion. We’re telling the truth about all of this.” Yup. And he’s still lying about the 2020 election being “rigged.” By the way, he’s now hawking a God Bless the USA bible for the low low price of $59.99. I just find it kind of funny that he’s selling bibles now.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 27, 2024 1:48:06 GMT
You don't legitimately "find" votes, especially if there is a vague threat of a "criminal offense". Trump was using pressure and asserting the power of his office. The Republican Secretary of State described Trump's call as a threat. That is not something that you do legitimately. When has any other politician pressured a sitting governor and Secretary of State to "find" votes? That's not how the process works. Saying a new administration will be inaugurated is not the same thing as conceding. And not remotely close to acknowledging that he lost and Biden won a fair election. To this day, Trump continues to lie about the election. He praises the Jan 6 insurrectionists at political prisoners, hostages and patriots. 3 years later, those are not the words of someone who has accepted the election results. You're conveniently forgetting or ignoring that near the end of his speech on January 6, Trump said "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, we won't have a country anymore." Trump said this deliberately and intentionally, knowing that his supporters were armed. He also said this after he fired up his supporters and lied extensively about the election being stolen. www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trialAll of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they're doing. And stolen by the fake news media. That's what they've done and what they're doing. We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved.
Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.What Hillary said about the 2016 election and Trump's words and actions are a false equivalence. Not even close. And if you can't acknowledge those basic facts, it's not worth having a conversation.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 27, 2024 4:08:56 GMT
Yeah, good luck with that, aj2hall.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 27, 2024 12:20:29 GMT
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Post by Lurkingpea on Mar 27, 2024 12:53:51 GMT
Stable genius. He also ranted about how you can't have an election in the middle of a political season, followed by some nonsense about how we had a Tuesday followed by another Tuesday. I mean, I guess we did have a Tuesday followed by another Tuesday, so he isn't wrong on that. But if Biden has such a mental lapse our friend and his followers would be going ballistic.
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Post by Merge on Mar 27, 2024 14:20:40 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 27, 2024 19:51:47 GMT
You don't legitimately "find" votes, In 2020... YES, you do... ABC NEWS "The last day to vote in the 2020 general election was Nov. 3. But ballots may not be counted for several day S, if not weeks, after that date, experts said." "Deadlines for receiving mail-in ballots also extend past Nov. 3 in several states, all but making it a given that votes will be recorded in the dayS or even weeks after the election."That, and saying that "congress has certified the votes" IS conceding AND acknowledging. So is saying "my focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly, and seamless transition of power." That is ALSO conceding AND acknowledging. Your claims that he didn't concede or acknowledge are so dishonest. YOU are conveniently forgetting or ignoring all the times that those on the Left say the same thing or worse. There are literally videos everywhere showing them doing so. Which makes your objection to Trump doing so, absolutely, straight up, MEANINGLESS. Back it up. Where is your proof that Trump knew that? Or, is this just another bullshit claim you make, while refusing to back it up? Just like your false claim, among many, that "Trump was calling ALL illegal immigrants animals" vs. just the criminal ones. A claim that you still refuse to back up OR correct, btw🤔 And by the way, one person with a gun on him, that didn't shoot anyone, is by no means an "armed insurrection". Again, when you have no issue with Hillary, biden, Left leaning media, and those on the Left saying it, your objection to Trump saying it, just. Doesn't. Hold. Water. Based on your own standards, it is not a false comparison, at all. Based on your own standards, saying that it's a false comparison is nothing more than applying your standard in only one direction. Which is completely dishonest. You're OWN dismissal of Hillary, biden, Democrats, and Left leaning media all saying the election was illegitimate and spending years and millions to try to overturn it as being the same, shows that YOU can't acknowledge basic facts.
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Post by morecowbell on Mar 27, 2024 19:57:57 GMT
Yeah, good luck with that, aj2hall . It's very evident that you're having such a hard time hearing facts that don't support your narrative. I'm so sorry. It must be so hard on you. You poor thing.
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