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Post by morecowbell on Feb 21, 2024 5:22:48 GMT
...no matter what side of the aisle you're on, how would you feel about a Haley presidency?*
*Remember, it's not whether or not you'd vote for her... in this question she's already been elected. đź‘Ť
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Post by tracylynn on Feb 21, 2024 5:41:50 GMT
Not great.
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Post by hennybutton on Feb 21, 2024 5:48:07 GMT
Better than I would about a Trump presidency.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 21, 2024 6:41:57 GMT
Meet the PressHere is what she is for and I’m against everyone she supports. She has also said she would pardon trump. It was a mistake to pardon Nixon. It’s because of that pardon we have trump and his belief he has immunity. And she is silent on climate change which means she is either against it or doesn’t believe it exists. Which makes her not much better then trump. And a hard no for me.
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2024 11:24:22 GMT
She’s fine with a nationwide abortion ban. That’s a no from me. I thought you were pro-choice?
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 21, 2024 11:42:52 GMT
Well... she'd be better than Trump anyway because at least she's not mentally unstable (not as far as I can see). But as someone already said, she's for everything I'm against, and against everything I'm for.
Also, I'm petty enough that I would like the first woman president to be a Democrat not a Republican.
On the other hand it would be lovely to watch Trump's meltdown if he lost to a woman. hahahahahaha
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Post by peasapie on Feb 21, 2024 12:11:38 GMT
If she dropped her anti abortion stance, I’d feel much better about her.
I’d vote for Donald Duck before I’d vote for Donald Trump.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 21, 2024 12:27:28 GMT
She’s better than Trump but that’s a really low bar. Her unwillingness to say the civil war was about slavery, signaling that she’s catering to the white supremecists in the Republican Party, her promise to pardon Trump along with her abortion stance makes her a hard no. As Chris Christie said if she can’t stand up to her own party, what will happen is she has to deal with dictators like Putin?
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 21, 2024 12:27:41 GMT
As far as policy is concerned, she is just trump in heels.
That’s a hard no for me.
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Post by pilcas on Feb 21, 2024 12:39:13 GMT
She’s clearly better than Trump because she’s not unhinged. On the other hand sheis more dangerous as a candidate because Republicans that can see Trump has lost it would vote for her.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 21, 2024 12:52:19 GMT
I would vote for her over Trump. I would also vote for a bag of dirt over trump too.
Her abortion stance is awful, and she wants to raise the age of retirement. I hope the younger generations are listening, bc she wants THEM to work until at least 70, with no real "American Dream" for them (house, savings, etc). What exactly is their incentive?
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Post by peppermintpatty on Feb 21, 2024 13:03:38 GMT
She is exactly why I was happy when DeSantis dropped out. Both of them are far more intelligent than Trump (that isn't saying much) but the fact that they can say a complete sentence SQUIRREL! makes them more dangerous than Trump OOOHHH LOOK, SHINY THING!! PUTIN HAS LOTS OF SHINY THINGS, PUTIN IS BEAUTIFUL, MOST BEAUTIFUL, SQUIRREL!
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Post by 3boysnme on Feb 21, 2024 13:34:55 GMT
Unfortunately, neither side has a perfect candidate. So I'll stick with the best candidate in this mix...Biden. Haley is just a tad better than Trump, and seeing as how Trump is the lowest candidate ever, it's not that much better for Haley.
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 21, 2024 14:10:26 GMT
I haven't researched her stance so going off what you guys have posted. Her abortion views would SADLY make me vote for Dump if those were my only two options (in fact I would choose to think about not voting if those were the choices). I can't even imagine these poor women having to go back to the 1950s or whenever to get an illegal abortion. I can't deal with that kind of inhumane stuff. I'm not all about getting abortions nilly willy but there needs to be options. And the slavery? Really? But in any case, my vote is with Biden... aggg.. not what I would really want but...
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2024 14:12:04 GMT
I haven't researched her stance so going off what you guys have posted. Her abortion views would SADLY make me vote for Dump if those were my only two options (in fact I would choose to think about not voting if those were the choices). I can't even imagine these poor women having to go back to the 1950s or whenever to get an illegal abortion. I can't deal with that kind of inhumane stuff. I'm not all about getting abortions nilly willy but there needs to be options. And the slavery? Really? But in any case, my vote is with Biden... aggg.. not what I would really want but... Trump will also allow an abortion ban to go into effect. He’s said there should be punishment for women who have abortions. |
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 21, 2024 14:18:16 GMT
I haven't researched her stance so going off what you guys have posted. Her abortion views would SADLY make me vote for Dump if those were my only two options (in fact I would choose to think about not voting if those were the choices). I can't even imagine these poor women having to go back to the 1950s or whenever to get an illegal abortion. I can't deal with that kind of inhumane stuff. I'm not all about getting abortions nilly willy but there needs to be options. And the slavery? Really? But in any case, my vote is with Biden... aggg.. not what I would really want but... Trump will also allow an abortion ban to go into effect. He’s said there should be punishment for women who have abortions. Well damn... back to square one. it's a no win situation. |
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Post by huskergal on Feb 21, 2024 14:20:20 GMT
Better than Trump because I think she is sane.
I disagree with 90% of her policies. I would never vote for her. But I do want her to beat Trump.
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Post by smasonnc on Feb 21, 2024 14:25:17 GMT
Years ago I saw an interview with Nikki Haley and was very impressed. Her knowledge of international affairs is very thorough and she's strong and decisive. I'm sad that, as a woman, she can still be a Republican. Her stance on abortion has softened, but when she was SC governor, she supported some pretty stern limits. She says she's pro-life but she wants to find a consensus and I think that's the only way through this debate. However, I think her brand of consensus would be a lot tougher than mine.
I'm so angry that with 330 million citizens, the only ones we get to choose from are an old man who's losing his faculties and two who would deny women autonomy over their own bodies, including a deranged criminal. I still can't vote Republican until they come to their senses on guns and abortion so the doddering old man it is.
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 21, 2024 14:27:11 GMT
Better than Trump because I think she is sane. I disagree with 90% of her policies. I would never vote for her. But I do want her to beat Trump. This is where I am. Disagree with pretty much every policy and position she takes, but less concerned that her plan is to take office and never leave. Which means the bar is not just on the floor, but buried under it. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2024 14:30:36 GMT
Trump will also allow an abortion ban to go into effect. He’s said there should be punishment for women who have abortions. Well damn... back to square one. it's a no win situation. To be clear, there is no major Republican candidate who would admit to being pro-choice. It’s part of their party’s purity test to keep the evangelicals and conservative Catholics voting for them. |
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Post by summer on Feb 21, 2024 14:50:15 GMT
Not good. I don’t want anyone to be President who is anti women and will take away women’s reproductive rights.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 21, 2024 15:07:59 GMT
She’s better than Trump but that’s a really low bar. Her unwillingness to say the civil war was about slavery, signaling that she’s catering to the white supremecists in the Republican Party along with her abortion stance makes her a hard no. As Chris Christie said if she can’t stand up to her own party, what will happen is she has to deal with dictators like Putin? This. The bar is so very low right now. A half step up from pond scum is still basically pond scum. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 21, 2024 15:13:19 GMT
I haven't researched her stance so going off what you guys have posted. Her abortion views would SADLY make me vote for Dump if those were my only two options (in fact I would choose to think about not voting if those were the choices). I can't even imagine these poor women having to go back to the 1950s or whenever to get an illegal abortion. I can't deal with that kind of inhumane stuff. I'm not all about getting abortions nilly willy but there needs to be options. And the slavery? Really? But in any case, my vote is with Biden... aggg.. not what I would really want but... Trump will also allow an abortion ban to go into effect. He’s said there should be punishment for women who have abortions. Yes. The 16 week thing is basically a way to restrict the states like mine that want to enshrine reproductive rights by doing an end around. The states that already have bans in place would still have bans in place making it worse everywhere for everyone who could happen to end up pregnant whether they want to be or not. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2024 15:16:39 GMT
Trump will also allow an abortion ban to go into effect. He’s said there should be punishment for women who have abortions. Yes. The 16 week thing is basically a way to restrict the states like mine that want to enshrine reproductive rights by doing an end around. The states that already have bans in place would still have bans in place making it worse everywhere for everyone who could happen to end up pregnant whether they want to be or not. Women whose fetus has a condition incompatible with life would suffer even more, needing to leave the country to end the pregnancy. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 21, 2024 15:20:34 GMT
I haven't researched her stance so going off what you guys have posted. Her abortion views would SADLY make me vote for Dump if those were my only two options (in fact I would choose to think about not voting if those were the choices). I can't even imagine these poor women having to go back to the 1950s or whenever to get an illegal abortion. I can't deal with that kind of inhumane stuff. I'm not all about getting abortions nilly willy but there needs to be options. And the slavery? Really? But in any case, my vote is with Biden... aggg.. not what I would really want but... Trump will also allow an abortion ban to go into effect. He’s said there should be punishment for women who have abortions. He's probably worse than her. He's talking quietly about a 16 week ban because he thinks that is a good, round number. He is bragging about appointing justices who overturned Roe v Wade. And he will appoint hard right conservatives who are already making plans to restrict abortion drugs and other things. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2024 15:21:33 GMT
Trump will also allow an abortion ban to go into effect. He’s said there should be punishment for women who have abortions. He's probably worse than her. He's talking quietly about a 16 week ban because he thinks that is a good, round number. He is bragging about appointing justices who overturned Roe v Wade. And he will appoint hard right conservatives who are already making plans to restrict abortion drugs and other things. Other things like birth control. |
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Post by librarylady on Feb 21, 2024 17:37:40 GMT
Better than I would about a Trump presidency.  |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 21, 2024 17:46:57 GMT
Yes. The 16 week thing is basically a way to restrict the states like mine that want to enshrine reproductive rights by doing an end around. The states that already have bans in place would still have bans in place making it worse everywhere for everyone who could happen to end up pregnant whether they want to be or not. Women whose fetus has a condition incompatible with life would suffer even more, needing to leave the country to end the pregnancy. Yup, because most of those conditions are not discovered until the anatomy ultrasound which typically happens at 20 weeks. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 21, 2024 17:52:03 GMT
TFG is talking a 16 week abortion ban. I do not believe him! He brags about killing Roe v Dobbs. Do you really think he won't go farther if elected as a dictator? He will destroy our lives 100%!!
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Post by tenakee on Feb 21, 2024 20:38:21 GMT
She’s fine with a nationwide abortion ban. That’s a no from me. I thought you were pro-choice? And she supports the recent Alabama Supreme Court Ruling that embryos are children (and all the downstream effects of such a classification). I was already a hard no and it just got even harder. Quote from NBC News story: “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn't present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. "When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.” On a side note, I love how these people cherry pick and interpret so that what they do (artificial insemination) is quite okay morally but where they draw the line (IVF in this case) is absolutely not. If their personal faith is so strongly Bible-based, shouldn't they instead insist that the ONLY acceptable method of human reproduction is intercourse (preferably married and consensual, but of course including rape, incest, etc)? And that if God doesn't "bless them" with children via this only acceptable method, then they should just accept that as God's will for them, even if ineffable? For clarity, I believe that using science to allow people to have babies that can't otherwise do so should probably fit under "miracle" rather than "sin." It's just some people's hypocrisy I can't stomach. |
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