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Post by aj2hall on Feb 27, 2024 3:28:05 GMT
I think mainstream media is really doing a disservice by not asking hard questions, not fact checking and in their attempts to appear neutral, not providing balanced coverage. Thinking about last week, the NYT had 5 articles above the fold on Hur's comments in the special report. In comparison, how much coverage did some of the crazy things Trump said in speeches get?
I understand everyone is kind of numb to Trump and expects him to say crazy things, so it's nothing new when he does. For the same reason, he gets a pass when he mixes up names, dates, presidents etc. The expectations for President Biden are much higher, so when he makes a mistake, it's front page news.
Why isn't project 2025 and their white Christian nationalist, fascist policies getting more attention?
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 27, 2024 3:30:37 GMT
I know this is Fox, so I don't expect them to ask Trump hard hitting questions. I think Bret Bauer did genuinely try, which is more than Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingram or Sean Hannity would do. But how many journalists failed or are failing to fact check Trump, press him on questions when he deflects etc?
To their credit, Fox did cut away and fact check Trump on election lies. Cynically, I think a significant reason for that is the massive Dominion judgement against them.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 27, 2024 3:42:14 GMT
Lots of examples of unbalanced coverage of Trump and Biden
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 27, 2024 3:48:44 GMT
When former journalists are questioning the media's reporting, you start to wonder.
In my view, the key CPAC story isn’t that right-wing influencer Jack Posebiec said, “Welcome to the end of democracy. We are here to overthrow it completely.”
The story is how many Republican lawmakers are absolutely silent about it.
May I suggest the media ask every Congressional member who speaks at CPAC, and every Republican presidential candidate for that matter, the following three questions:
1) Do you reject Jack Posebiec’s comments?
2) Do you support democracy?
3) Do you respect the separation of church and state?
And don't stop asking until you get answers.
I believe journalists have a duty to uncover just how deep the threat to American democracy runs.
It’s the answers that should frighten us. Never the questions.
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Post by Merge on Feb 27, 2024 14:03:17 GMT
For all the right tries to paint NYT as a liberal rag, they have done major disservice to Democrats in their uneven coverage in both this election and the 2016 one.
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Post by casii on Feb 27, 2024 18:28:50 GMT
I feel like there is a blend of reasons the mainstream media has failed here.
Follow the money. More and more media sources are being bought by rightwing billionaires to control the narrative.
Trump and chaos also makes media outlets more money than government carrying on quietly, getting work done.
The misguided attempt to both sides everything. There is no way that Biden's missteps come close to Trump's. There is no way Dem lawmaker scandals come even with GOP scandals or misdeeds.
Some of this could be remedied if we brought back the Fairness Doctrine which was done away with during Reagans 2nd term in office. That's what gave up claptrap like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.
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Post by lisae on Feb 28, 2024 0:09:34 GMT
I read the NYTimes online and I think they talk about Trump incessantly. They have missed covering some of the more ridiculous things he has said but I certainly don't think they have given him a pass. It is very clear where they stand. Their columnists are trying very hard to help people see that Biden is in trouble but the letters from readers keep insisting that Trump is worse, no one in their right mind would vote for Trump, etc. Their mission seems to be shoring up support for Biden rather than preaching to the choir about how bad Trump is.
I don't know whether this is the right approach or not but NYTimes readers aren't the ones you need to convince that Trump is unstable.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 28, 2024 1:36:11 GMT
I read the NYTimes online and I think they talk about Trump incessantly. They have missed covering some of the more ridiculous things he has said but I certainly don't think they have given him a pass. It is very clear where they stand. Their columnists are trying very hard to help people see that Biden is in trouble but the letters from readers keep insisting that Trump is worse, no one in their right mind would vote for Trump, etc. Their mission seems to be shoring up support for Biden rather than preaching to the choir about how bad Trump is. I don't know whether this is the right approach or not but NYTimes readers aren't the ones you need to convince that Trump is unstable. Great points. I read the NYT, too and I agree that Trump gets plenty of coverage. They cover his trials, the primaries and his pressure campaigns on the Republicans (like the border bill) extensively. I just think there's a gap in coverage of his recent speeches where he's said some really crazy stuff. They did cover his comments about NATO and the editorials frequently focus on him. I'm looking for Democrats and advocates for Biden to be calling out more loudly all of Trump's craziness. I understand the approach to not give him more attention or coverage, but I think that ship has sailed. I'm worried that this will be like the 2016 election and the mainstream media as well as Democrats have not called out Trump and the Republicans' craziness and falsehoods. I think Pete, Gavin Newsom and Shapiro all do a good job of pushing back on the Republicans. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 28, 2024 3:01:47 GMT
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Post by sunshine on Feb 28, 2024 13:01:11 GMT
I read the NYTimes online and I think they talk about Trump incessantly. They have missed covering some of the more ridiculous things he has said but I certainly don't think they have given him a pass. It is very clear where they stand. Their columnists are trying very hard to help people see that Biden is in trouble but the letters from readers keep insisting that Trump is worse, no one in their right mind would vote for Trump, etc. Their mission seems to be shoring up support for Biden rather than preaching to the choir about how bad Trump is.I don't know whether this is the right approach or not but NYTimes readers aren't the ones you need to convince that Trump is unstable. And this is why the NYT is nothing more than a rag mag.
One point from the NYT Mission and Values statement: "Independence
Over a hundred years ago, The Times pledged “to give the news impartially, without fear or favor, regardless of party, sect, or interests involved.” That commitment remains true today: We follow the truth, wherever it leads." The NYT "shoring" up Biden support (which it absolutely does) is not in line with its independence.  |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 28, 2024 14:54:37 GMT
I read the NYTimes online and I think they talk about Trump incessantly. They have missed covering some of the more ridiculous things he has said but I certainly don't think they have given him a pass. It is very clear where they stand. Their columnists are trying very hard to help people see that Biden is in trouble but the letters from readers keep insisting that Trump is worse, no one in their right mind would vote for Trump, etc. Their mission seems to be shoring up support for Biden rather than preaching to the choir about how bad Trump is.I don't know whether this is the right approach or not but NYTimes readers aren't the ones you need to convince that Trump is unstable. And this is why the NYT is nothing more than a rag mag.
One point from the NYT Mission and Values statement: "Independence
Over a hundred years ago, The Times pledged “to give the news impartially, without fear or favor, regardless of party, sect, or interests involved.” That commitment remains true today: We follow the truth, wherever it leads." The NYT "shoring" up Biden support (which it absolutely does) is not in line with its independence. I think she was referring to the editorials, which is different for obvious reasons |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 28, 2024 15:30:30 GMT
I think casii is right, the media has a vested interest in drama and therefore, Trump and Biden “underperforming “
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