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Mar 4, 2024 20:09:03 GMT
Post by morecowbell on Mar 4, 2024 20:09:03 GMT
Add to it that the flood of immigrants that happened under Obama was much more unexpected, whereas Trumps policies were written in order to “cage” more people. There were how many years in between them? Knowing it was likely to happen again, knowing their policies were written to cause many of the issues, they should have been better prepared. Katrina brought a huge unexpected influx to the City of Houston, among others. Do you think they were not better prepared for this situation a few years after this happened? Yes, kids were separated from their families because their parents are arrested for breaking the law. That's what happens when parents get arrested. Kids don't get to go to jail with their parents. They are separated. That has been us government policy since 1997 under President Clinton.Not one of you had a problem with it under "your guy". Not until you could weaponize it against Trump, did you EVER see a problem with it. |
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Mar 4, 2024 20:11:05 GMT
Post by morecowbell on Mar 4, 2024 20:11:05 GMT
Only a cultist can fail to notice that Trump has lost the plot and is rambling uncontrollably, making threats and boasting about his abilities. Nowhere does he actually talk about policy and specific, doable solutions. Oh and let’s not forget when he lies and actually sounds like he believes them. As nasty as he was back then, if you go back to his speeches in 2020 you can see the difference. None of this is true of Biden.Oh, yes it is. As I've said, they both need to go, but to apply your own standard, only a cultist can fail to notice how Biden has lost the plot and is rambling incoherently into his lap, reading notecards to foreign officials, unable to remember milestone years of his life even within SEVERAL years, fumbles incoherently and lies through a press conference MEANT to show how "mentally with it" he is, and actually sounds like he believes them. Which is alarming when you consider that he was telling the press that were asking questions that "the press doesn't even care about those things." Even CNN fact checked biden and caught him in several lies during that failure of "a proof of cognitive ability" press conference. And pilcas, OUR SITTING PRESIDENT doesn't know what year it is. He is still claiming he's running for Senate. This year. |
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Mar 4, 2024 21:32:08 GMT
Post by aj2hall on Mar 4, 2024 21:32:08 GMT
Add to it that the flood of immigrants that happened under Obama was much more unexpected, whereas Trumps policies were written in order to “cage” more people. There were how many years in between them? Knowing it was likely to happen again, knowing their policies were written to cause many of the issues, they should have been better prepared. Katrina brought a huge unexpected influx to the City of Houston, among others. Do you think they were not better prepared for this situation a few years after this happened? Yes, kids were separated from their families because their parents are arrested for breaking the law. That's what happens when parents get arrested. Kids don't get to go to jail with their parents. They are separated. That has been us government policy since 1997 under President Clinton.Not one of you had a problem with it under "your guy". Not until you could weaponize it against Trump, did you EVER see a problem with it. Actually, no. The Clinton and Obama administrations did not separate families, except in rare circumstances if a parent was arrested on drug charges. www.npr.org/2019/04/09/711446917/fact-check-trump-wrongly-states-obama-administration-had-child-separation-policyFACT CHECK: Trump Wrongly States Obama Administration Had Child Separation Policy President Trump repeated a false claim to reporters Tuesday, wrongly blaming the Obama administration for instituting a policy in which children were separated from their parents at the Southern border.
"I'm the one that stopped it," Trump said. "President Obama had child separation."
Trump's false claim that child separations were carried out by the Obama administration has been frequently refuted.
"The Obama administration did not do that, no. We did not separate children from their parents," former Obama domestic policy adviser Cecilia Muñoz told NPR in May 2018. "This is a new decision, a policy decision put in place by the attorney general," which Muñoz said "puts us in league with the most brutal regimes in the world's history."
It was then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions who instituted the "zero tolerance" policy at the Southern border in April 2018, which resulted in children being separated from their parents who were taken into custody for criminal prosecution.
apnews.com/article/archive-fact-checking-5409040005Under the Obama administration, a “minuscule” number of children were removed from their parents but only in rare cases, such as a parent being arrested on a drug charge, former U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Protection commissioner Gil Kerlikowske said in a June 2018 Associated Press report.
The false claim about the number of children separated under Obama appears to stem from a 2016 Senate subcommittee report that found his administration oversaw the placement of nearly 90,000 children who arrived at the border alone or without a legal guardian between October 2013 through 2015. Those children were placed with sponsors living in the U.S., typically a parent or legal guardian, according to the same report.
apnews.com/article/archive-fact-checking-5936890291Clinton did not create a law separating families at the border
CLAIM: President Bill Clinton passed a law in 1996 that separates parents and children entering the U.S. illegally and President Barack Obama enforced that law. Now, President Donald Trump is being demonized for enforcing it.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. There is no law that requires parents and children to be separated if they are entering the country illegally. Thousands of children were separated from their families after passing into the country illegally last year as a result of a temporary zero-tolerance policy under the Trump administration.
THE FACTS: Posts on Facebook wrongly assert that Trump is being criticized for enforcing a law that Clinton passed in 1996.
Immigration reforms, which toughened illegal immigration penalties and quickened the pace of deportations, were passed under President Bill Clinton in 1996, but the legislation did not call for children and parents crossing the U.S. border illegally to be separated.
“Family units and children were very rare” at the U.S.-Mexico border in the 1990s and early 2000s, Rick Su, an immigration and law expert at the University at Buffalo, told The Associated Press.Trump permanently separated children with no plans to reunite them. The Biden administration is still trying to reunite families. www.splcenter.org/news/2022/03/23/family-separation-timelinewww.pbs.org/newshour/show/hundreds-of-migrant-children-remain-separated-from-families-despite-push-to-reunite-themIt’s been two years since the Biden administration took on the task of reunifying children with their families after they were separated at the southern border under the Trump administration’s zero-tolerance policy. While the Biden administration has succeeded in uniting some 600 children with their parents, about 1000 remain separated. Geoff Bennett spoke with Caitlin Dickerson about the process.
So, the Trump administration's zero tolerance policy, we know from your reporting, separated more than 5,000 children from their parents with no process for reuniting them. |
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