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Post by onelasttime on Mar 18, 2024 23:38:43 GMT
Kathleen Parker in her Washington Post op-ed feels Kamala Harris should step aside as VP. A guy who goes by the Editorial Board offered a good rebuttal to Parker’s comments about VP Harris. Which brings the question I’m going to ask in a poll. Should Kamala Harris step? aside? There is some confusion as what VP Harris was tasked with when it came to immigration. It wasn’t the security at the border. It was working with the heads of countries south of the border to see if there was things that could be done in these countries that would stop folks for wanting to head north. Nobel endeavor that was bound to fail. Which apparently it did. But give the Biden Administration credit for trying. I happen to think she is doing a good job. She has had a couple of missteps but is doing a good job. If something should happen to President Biden in his 2nd term I have no concerns about her becoming president. Especially if she makes Pete Buttigieg her VP. From Marc Jacob… “Why do right-wingers detest Vice President Harris?“If you listen to their criticisms of the vice president, you can’t help but notice how seldom they focus on her stands on the issues and her official actions in office. What you hear instead are cheap shots and style quibbles. She’s got “that awful giggle that just makes people cringe,” according to Fox News’ Jason Chaffetz. Radio host Ben Shapiro says it’s an “insane Joker laugh,” while Newt Gingrich finds it “distinctively jarring.” Before Tucker Carlson got fired by Fox, his show featured a Harris impersonator doing the “Kamala kackle.” And it’s not just Harris’ laughing that’s a threat to the American way of life. She has been caught smiling too. Former Fox personality Geraldo Rivera once accused her of “over-smirking.” Most normal people think a sense of humor and a broad smile are positive qualities, but right-wing columnist Miranda Devine is not fooled, declaring: “There’s something that’s not warm about her.” Hmmm. “Something.” A few years ago, Harris even came under fire for how she said the word “the.” While in Paris, she pronounced the word as “thee” instead of “thuh.” Fox News was outraged over what it called her “fake French accent.” Less propagandistic news outlets like Bloomberg News and The Independent also jumped on the “story.” As well as being petty, the criticisms of Harris are also vague. Her detractors claim she’s a “very unserious individual” who is “charmless and inept” and “just doesn’t resonate with voters.” The Washington Post’s George Will called her a “mistake” in a column in which he did not even show the courtesy of using her name. Never mind that she’s the White House’s outspoken advocate for abortion rights, an issue on which about two-thirds of Americans agree with her. And never mind that she gave a stalwart defense of NATO at the Munich Security Conference last month. Newsmax would rather call her “the Wicked Witch of the West” and leave it at that. Pundits keep pushing the stupid notion of Harris leaving the Democratic ticket and Biden naming a replacement. Obviously, anyone who was chosen would get a similar sliming from the right wing, though the tone of the attack would be different for a white male. The Washington Post’s Kathleen Parker wrote a column last week headlined, “For the country’s sake, Vice President Harris should step aside.” Yes, that’s the same Kathleen Parker whose column just before Trump’s election in 2016 was headlined, “Calm down. We’ll be fine no matter who wins.” And yes, it’s the same Kathleen Parker who wrote a 2018 column headlined, “Calm down. Roe v. Wade isn’t going anywhere.” In this new column, Parker cited almost nothing of substance as a reason Harris should step down, beyond the fact that she hasn’t solved the border crisis. (Which Republicans haven’t solved either, and in fact they’ve blocked a compromise border bill on Donald Trump’s orders.) While short on examples of Harris’ alleged shortcomings, Parker’s column did cite the vice president’s dreaded “cackling.” It’s an enigma why the Washington Post keeps printing Parker’s column, and it’s particularly disheartening when mainstream media participate in the cheap shots against Harris. Last month, Axios allowed an anonymous “former Biden administration senior official” to say Harris was “at best ineffective, and at worst sporadically engaged” on the border. Those aren’t facts – they’re opinions, and therefore inappropriate for anonymous sourcing. Who knows whether the person firing the anonymous potshots might have an ulterior motive? Last October, Politico’s senior political columnist Jonathan Martin tweeted that Harris was “a vp w scant experience on world stage (to be charitable).” By that time, Harris had made four trips to Asia as vice president (including stops in Thailand, Philippines, Japan, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia and South Korea) as well as journeys to Guatemala, Mexico, France, Germany, Poland, Ghana, Tanzania, Zambia, Honduras and the Bahamas. Her recent appearance at the Munich Security Conference was the third time she has represented our country there. But there’s “something” troubling about Harris, in the words of Miranda Devine. Fox’s Jesse Watters has identified one supposed character flaw: She’s “very ambitious.” Which apparently is a problem for certain types of politicians but perfectly OK for others. What’s obvious is that there are three chief reasons for the right’s relentless bashing of Kamala Harris. Those reasons do not include her laugh, or her “scant experience on the world stage,” or the way she pronounces the word “the.” The three reasons are: She’s a Democrat. And a person of color. And a woman.“ x.com/markjacob16/status/1769722925605679130?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 19, 2024 0:06:32 GMT
From The Washington Post…. Gift Article. link” Opinion Kamala Harris is an underrated asset”By Jennifer Rubin Vice President Harris was never as flawed as her critics made her out to be. From the onset of her term, she maintained a rigorous and effective diplomatic travel schedule and bolstered President Biden’s fight for voting rights. Unlike Biden, she never got ahead of the president on policy. Unlike former vice president Dan Quayle, she never made a late-night-comedy-worthy gaffe. And she has avoided her predecessor’s cringeworthy fawning. Some defenders pointed to her eagerness in taking on seemingly impossible tasks (e.g., stemming the tide of Central American migrants); others argued the first woman of color in the job attracted disproportionate criticism. Whatever the cause, she has received harsh and sometimes petty media coverage, which too often simply regurgitated Republican attacks. However, whatever one thought of her early days in the administration, those who look carefully will see that she has hit her stride, providing Biden with key support among critical constituencies. Most prominently, her fierce and eloquent defense of abortion rights post-Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization has “broken through” with voters, according to respected Democratic pollster Celinda Lake. Her empathic rhetoric tying abortion to “freedom” has helped reset the pro-choice message. Her speech in Wisconsin in January on the 51st anniversary of Roe v. Wade underscored her effectiveness. “These extremists want to roll back the clock to a time before women were treated as full citizens — Wisconsin to the 1800s,” she told the audience. “Just look at what happened here in this beautiful state of Wisconsin. After Roe was dismantled, extremists evoked a law from 1849 to stop abortion in this state — 1849 — before women could vote, before women could hold elected office, before many women could even own property.” She pressed on, repeatedly interrupted by applause: “In a state whose motto is ‘Forward’ these extremists are trying to take us backwards. But we’re not having that. We’re not having that.” To cheers, she declared, “We trust women. We trust women to make decisions about their own bodies. We trust women to know what is in their own best interest. And women trust us to fight to protect their most fundamental freedoms.” Indeed, she has been enthusiastically greeted throughout her barnstorming tours of college campuses in which abortion rights have been front and center. Even amid the controversies surrounding the Israel-Gaza war that have roiled campuses, she remains relentlessly on message, stressing issues that resonate with younger voters, including school shootings, climate change and LGBTQ+ rights. In particular, she has excelled in her role as Biden defender and prosecutor of the case against four-times indicted former president Donald Trump. She launched a succinct and compelling indictment of special counsel Robert K. Hur’s lapse in prosecutorial judgment. “As a former prosecutor,” she declared Hur’s comments about Biden’s age and memory “gratuitous, inaccurate and inappropriate.” Moreover, she explained that during the interview in the days after Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack on Israel, Biden spent “countless hours” with his national security team. She recalled that Biden was “on top of it all, asking questions and requiring that America’s military and intelligence community and diplomatic community would figure out and know: How many people were dead? How many are Americans? How many hostages? Is the situation stable?” She stressed that he remained “in front of it all, coordinating and directing leaders who are in charge of America’s national security — not to mention our allies around the globe — for days and, up until now, months.” She concluded that “the way that the president’s demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts and, clearly, politically motivated — gratuitous … We should expect that there would be a higher level of integrity than what we saw.” Her delivery was crisp, her tone appropriately indignant and her eyewitness account of Biden’s actual performance the single most effective rebuttal to the age issue. And last week, in a critical international setting, she warned attendees at the Munich Security Conference of the danger of obsequiousness to Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny’s death. While not specifically naming Trump, she left little doubt about the target of her remarks. She told the audience, “I ask you: Imagine if America turned our back on Ukraine and abandoned our NATO allies and abandoned our treaty commitments. Imagine if we went easy on Putin, let alone encouraged him.” We need not imagine, of course, because Trump, just days before, had invited Putin to attack the alliance. With Ukraine aid in the balance, she explained, “History offers a clue. If we stand by while an aggressor invades its neighbor with impunity, they will keep going. And in the case of Putin, that means all of Europe would be threatened.” She closed succinctly: “History has also shown us: If we only look inward, we cannot defeat threats from outside. Isolation is not insulation.” Despite her near-flawless performance over the past year or so, do not expect the media to send out any “Kamala comeback” stories, let alone mea culpas for their excessively negative evaluation that she would handicap Biden. The media seems bent on artificially leveling the playing field rather than providing substantive coverage of Biden and Harris’s record and probing the egregious defects in their opponent. (Sure, Trump’s a crazy insurrectionist, an indicted criminal and a fascist, but Biden is old and has Harris!) That said, her work as the tip of the campaign’s spear on critical issues such as abortion and her fiery prosecution of the case against Trump will be gauged by her reception internationally and at home with voters critical to the Biden-Harris victory. So far, she is hitting her marks.” |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 19, 2024 0:15:17 GMT
From the Washington Pist - Gift article… linkAnd here is the hit piece mentioned in the first post. ” Opinion For the country’s sake, Vice President Harris should step aside”By Kathleen Parker “The Democratic Party’s indulgence of identity politics has proved successful in building a diverse organization, but its strategy of courting (and pandering to) minority voters is the road to ruin. In 2020, Joe Biden’s promise to tap a woman as his vice president — along with Rep. James E. Clyburn’s election-altering endorsement in South Carolina — paved Biden’s way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. His “history-making” selection of the telegenic Kamala D. Harris might prove to be his downfall in 2024 — and he has had enough fall-downs to make voters worry. Harris’s résumé was impressive. A former California attorney general and sitting U.S. senator, she seemed to have been created by Central Casting. Or was it artificial intelligence? As the first Black woman and the first woman of Asian descent to be nominated for vice president, she was a doubleheader. But her evolving beliefs undercut that appeal. As a presidential candidate in 2020, she followed the Democratic playbook on issues, except when she raised her hand in support of eliminating private health insurance. She also managed to imply that Biden was racist and segregationist, citing his long-ago stance against student busing. In her famous debate rebuke of Biden, she said she had been one of the little Black girls on one of those buses. Her touché was short-lived. Harris ended her campaign in December 2019, citing a lack of financial resources. Next thing we knew, she was moving into the Naval Observatory. She was a colossal failure as border czar, a position she held briefly, and otherwise seemed to have gone undercover. Whatever the reasons, it has seemed that Harris’s role was to be quiet, lest she embarrass her boss with her sometimes inane, rambling remarks and a laugh that erupts from nowhere about nothing obvious to others. I do, however, relish the thought of her face-to-face with Vladimir Putin and suddenly cackling at a linchpin moment during nuclear arms discussions. The Kamala conundrum comes down to this: She was picked because she was Black and female, a combo tantamount to job security. Now that she has become a burden to the Democratic ticket, Biden can’t fire her. He can’t risk alienating his base. Full stop. The seriousness of this situation can’t be overstated. Biden’s diminishing faculties, notwithstanding his relatively successful State of the Union address, and his increasing physical frailty are concerning. Every honest person knows he’s not in top form. A recent New York Times poll found that 73 percent of registered voters believe Biden is too old to be the nation’s top executive. This includes 61 percent of those who voted for him in 2020. At the start of Biden’s term, I was pulling for Harris to do well. She had pizzazz and a reputation for being a tough prosecutor. She had moxie and swagger, and she leaned centrist. There was reason for hope: Criticism from California progressives that she wasn’t adequately attuned to racial-justice issues and sided too often with prosecutors likely proved helpful when she was vetted for the VP spot. Her performance as second in command has been disappointing, to say the least. Americans have taken note. Though Democrats unsurprisingly like her more than Republicans do, a recent analysis by FiveThirtyEight set her average overall approval rating at just 37.2 percent, among the lowest recorded for a vice president. There’s no reason to think her ranking would spike were she suddenly promoted to the Oval Office. Instead, most signs point to disaster. This is why I propose with all due respect that Harris step away from the ticket. This is not a partisan suggestion. I said the same about Sarah Palin in 2008 when it became clear, as I wrote, that she was “out of her league.” No one would have blamed Palin for wanting to spend more time with her family, including a new baby, I said. I ended the column with these words, “Do it for your country.” Harris could provide her own reasons for moving on. Perhaps she and Biden could a cut a deal for her to become the next attorney general — if he’s reelected. Biden then could tap someone else with executive experience who could reassure voters that the next vice president would be ready to take the reins should events require it. Democrats and Republicans alike would be relieved. Please, Madame Vice President, do it for your country.” |
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Post by AussieMeg on Mar 19, 2024 0:24:06 GMT
Ugh, Miranda Devine..... I had no idea that she'd moved to NY. Good for Australia, bad for the US. She's trash.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 23, 2024 16:35:50 GMT
linkFrom the Editorial Board.. “ Ignore the hate. No one is better prepared than Kamala Harris”“Calls for her to step aside are laughable in the extreme.” “I have seen people say that the president should step aside for the good of the country on account of him being an old man. But I hadn’t seen anyone say that the vice president should do the same thing for the same reasons, not until I read Kathleen Parker’s column in the Post. I suppose, since Kamala Harris is not only a woman but a biracial woman, it’s OK to hold her publicly responsible for someone else’s life. Parker’s argument goes something like this: there was a time and place for the success of “identity politics,” during the covid pandemic and before the 2020 election, but that time and place is gone. Harris is now more trouble than she’s worth. She’s bad at doing stuff. She’s unpopular. It even looks like Joe Biden is trying to keep her under wraps. If she sticks around long enough for Biden to die in office, it will be a “disaster.” Please, Madame Vice President, stand down, please. I’m being only slightly uncharitable. Here’s the nut-graph. Harris “was picked because she was Black and female, a combo tantamount to job security,” Parker wrote. “Now that she has become a burden to the Democratic ticket, Biden can’t fire her. He can’t risk alienating his base. Full stop. The seriousness of this situation can’t be overstated. Biden’s diminishing faculties, notwithstanding his relatively successful State of the Union address, and his increasing physical frailty are concerning.” Parker goes on to say that, in the beginning, she was pulling for Harris. “She had pizzazz and a reputation for being a tough prosecutor,” she said. “She had moxie and swagger, and she leaned centrist.” But her performance has been disappointing, she said. In addition to “rambling remarks and a laugh that erupts from nowhere about nothing obvious to others,” Parker cited her “colossal failure as border czar.” She cites polling in which Americans seem cool on her. “There’s no reason to think her ranking would spike were she suddenly promoted to the Oval Office,” Parker said. “Instead, most signs point to disaster. This is why I propose with all due respect that Harris step away from the ticket.” A couple of things. First, polls about vice presidents are garbage. Most people most of the time are not paying attention to any kind of political news, much less political news about Kamala Harris. My friend Matt Robison has a great piece at the Washington Monthly about that very phenomenon. It explains how Donald Trump, despite his many horribles, seems to be leading Biden in polling. Most people just don’t know about his many horribles, Matt argued, even though his every word and deed dominate political news. But it’s an election year, Matt said. They will start paying attention. That’s when things will change. One thing won’t change, however. That’s public opinion about Kamala Harris. Why? Because — my second point – no one cares about vice presidents! The only people who are paying attention to this one are people who say she was “picked because she was Black and female.” Moreover, if voters know nothing else about her, and they almost certainly know nothing else about her, because no one pays attention to vice presidents, they do know she’s Black and female, and they know that fact very well, because people who say she was “picked because she was Black and female” can’t stop won’t stop talking about it. It’s telling that Parker cited Harris’ “colossal failure as border czar” as the most substantial reason for saying she’s “a burden to the Democratic ticket.” I mean, I don’t know about you, but I forgot the president made her the White House’s point-person on “the border crisis.” In the meantime, I have been paying attention to Biden, Trump, GOP governors, the House Republicans who impeached Homeland Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, the Senate for not having yet received those articles of impeachment – anyone but Harris. I forgot about her, because, like everyone else, I don’t pay attention to vice presidents. Anyway, it doesn’t make sense to say Kamala Harris has been “a colossal failure as border czar,” because vice presidents don’t get out in front of presidents. Why? Because presidents don’t let them. That, among other things, is why no one pays attention to vice presidents. They are generally invisible to the public eye because presidents want them to be – they are always a stand-in for the president. What the vice president says is what the president says, never vice versa. If you want to call the border a failure, then it’s the president’s failure, not the vice president’s. It’s laughable in the extreme to suggest otherwise. I have no doubt Parker knows this. She has decided to pretend she doesn’t for the sake of arguing that peril awaits us if Biden dies. That peril, she said, would be a new president who isn’t good at stuff, who isn’t popular and who “was picked because she was Black and female.” Implicit in Parker’s argument is the view that “identity politics” is performative politics, hollow gestures and empty values. A President Harris would be the embodiment of that, and it would be a disaster. It wouldn’t be. In the event of Joe Biden’s death, a Kamala Harris administration would be a continuation of his. Whatever she was lacking before 2020, she now has in abundance thanks to being Biden’s proxy for the last four years. Indeed, perhaps because he is aware of his advanced age, and future uncertainties, he has brought her in close to him, governing together almost as equals, as if in preparation for the inevitable. So even if it were true, and it’s not, but even if it were true that Harris’ only qualification for being vice president was being female and Black, all that changed the day she became vice president. Literally, no one is better prepared to take change if needed than Harris is.“
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Post by busy on Mar 23, 2024 18:46:09 GMT
All that really needs to be said to answer that question is:
The three reasons are:
She’s a Democrat.
And a person of color.
And a woman.
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Post by peace on Mar 24, 2024 0:00:00 GMT
so so many REPUBLICANS say to me (I live in Florida)that they don't understand WHAT Kamala does. Like What DoES SHE DO??? They use all of these terms so they don't seem to sound racist/sexist BUT it's really society have ingrained that men are better especially WHITE men. So- if you aren't one of those, you have to claw and crawl 19-294875 stories up just to be on the same level as that ineffective old white dude. People just cannot think about things from an unbiased point of view. It's too ingrained deep into our society. Sadly. THAT is why Hillary lost.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 24, 2024 0:09:10 GMT
so so many REPUBLICANS say to me (I live in Florida)that they don't understand WHAT Kamala does. Like What DoES SHE DO??? They use all of these terms so they don't seem to sound racist/sexist BUT it's really society have ingrained that men are better especially WHITE men. So- if you aren't one of those, you have to claw and crawl 19-294875 stories up just to be on the same level as that ineffective old white dude. People just cannot think about things from an unbiased point of view. It's too ingrained deep into our society. Sadly. THAT is why Hillary lost. What the hell has any VP actually done besides be a spare? In reality VP Harris has probably done more than any other VP in US history as she has cast more tie breaking votes than any other VP. As of last December there have been 301 tie breaking votes cast by 37 different VPs 33 of those voted by VP Harris ( 31 by Calhoun & 29 by Adams ) |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 24, 2024 1:45:50 GMT
linkShe has taken 16 foreign trips meeting with world leaders. She also meets with world leaders in DC. She is the voice for women’s rights that the right is hell bent on taking away as well as other domestic issues. She is “in the room” when key decisions are made. In other words she is getting on the job training to be president. From the Washington Post “ Opinion Why Vice President Harris is prepared to step in as commander in chief”By Eugene Robinson - 2/20/2024 “ With the exception of Dick Cheney (who made wars), vice presidents don’t typically get to make foreign policy. But I can’t think of any vice president who has become steeped in international affairs more quickly and more thoroughly than Kamala Harris.That was a blank spot in Harris’s résumé when Joe Biden chose her as his running mate nearly four years ago. Her career as San Francisco district attorney, California attorney general and U.S. senator did not include any meaningful experience in foreign policy. That has completely changed — and it’s making her a stronger asset to the Biden-Harris 2024 ticket. Last week, Harris represented the nation for the third consecutive year at the annual Munich Security Conference. Attendees have told me that the first time she went, in February 2022, she was tentative. It was like learning to swim by being tossed into the deep end: Russian tanks and troops were massing at the borders of Ukraine. Harris met Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for the first time at that gathering, which concluded just four days before Russia’s invasion. Harris told me later that year that she had wondered whether she’d ever see Zelensky again. This year in Munich, Harris held a joint news conference with Zelensky and crowed that “Kyiv stands free and strong.” In her address at the conference, she offered a strong, erudite defense of U.S. global engagement and emphasized the vital importance of the NATO alliance. Harris was no longer a newcomer; she was comfortable among the assembled world leaders, many of whom she now knows personally. While at the conference, the vice president met privately with President Isaac Herzog of Israel. During their conversations, she called for the release of all hostages being held by Hamas in Gaza and for a “prolonged pause” in the war that has taken nearly 30,000 lives and caused a grave humanitarian crisis. She also met with Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani, pressing him to do more to ensure the security of U.S. forces who remain in the country and are being attacked by Iran-sponsored militants. Early in her tenure, Harris’s words to these leaders about tough subjects would not have had the authority they have now. After 16 overseas trips as vice president, she has learned the issues. And she has met, and sized up, the players. It is not uncommon for world leaders who come to Washington for meetings with Biden to also meet separately with Harris. A couple of examples: King Abdullah II of Jordan met with the vice president on Feb. 13 after seeing Biden the previous day. And Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador dropped by Harris’s residence at the Naval Observatory for breakfast in 2022 before meeting with the president at the White House.Given Biden’s decades of experience as a senator and as vice president under Barack Obama, there is no doubt about who has the final say in this administration when it comes to foreign policy. But there should also be no doubt that Harris, whenever called upon, is capable of stepping in. The Biden-Harris campaign should be pushing back hard against attacks from the likes of GOP candidate Nikki Haley, who has spent months trying to paint Harris as somehow unqualified. “You know what should send a chill up every person’s spine?” Haley asked last week. “The thought of a President Kamala Harris.” All of this is designed to leverage the fact that 83 percent of Republicans — the voters Haley is desperately trying to attract — view the vice president unfavorably, according to a YouGov poll last week. The flip side, however, is that the rank-and-file voters of Harris’s party like her very much: In that same YouGov poll, 86 percent of Democrats viewed Harris favorably. That suggests the campaign’s strategy of having her fly around the country, trying to energize the Democratic faithful about issues such as abortion and voting rights, is good politics. And Biden has practiced good government as well, by creating space for Harris to gain the exposure and experience she would need if — perish the thought — he were no longer able to serve and she suddenly became commander in chief.As Haley says, we live in a world “on fire” — war in Ukraine, war in Gaza, China menacing Taiwan, Russia menacing Europe, Republicans hiding under the bed. There are many things that should chill our spines, but the thought of a President Kamala Harris isn’t one of them.”
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 24, 2024 2:17:06 GMT
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Post by librarylady on Mar 24, 2024 2:57:20 GMT
All that really needs to be said to answer that question is: The three reasons are: She’s a Democrat. And a person of color. And a woman. And there you see the 3 reasons. |
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Post by Merge on Mar 24, 2024 22:59:08 GMT
so so many REPUBLICANS say to me (I live in Florida)that they don't understand WHAT Kamala does. Like What DoES SHE DO??? They use all of these terms so they don't seem to sound racist/sexist BUT it's really society have ingrained that men are better especially WHITE men. So- if you aren't one of those, you have to claw and crawl 19-294875 stories up just to be on the same level as that ineffective old white dude. People just cannot think about things from an unbiased point of view. It's too ingrained deep into our society. Sadly. THAT is why Hillary lost. What the hell has any VP actually done besides be a spare? In reality VP Harris has probably done more than any other VP in US history as she has cast more tie breaking votes than any other VP. As of last December there have been 301 tie breaking votes cast by 37 different VPs 33 of those voted by VP Harris ( 31 by Calhoun & 29 by Adams ) Seriously. What did Mike Pence ever do? What did Biden himself do as VP? Dick Cheney shot somebody, but I don't think that was in the scope of his job.  |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 25, 2024 0:01:31 GMT
What the hell has any VP actually done besides be a spare? In reality VP Harris has probably done more than any other VP in US history as she has cast more tie breaking votes than any other VP. As of last December there have been 301 tie breaking votes cast by 37 different VPs 33 of those voted by VP Harris ( 31 by Calhoun & 29 by Adams ) Seriously. What did Mike Pence ever do? What did Biden himself do as VP? Dick Cheney shot somebody, but I don't think that was in the scope of his job.  We have Cheney to thank for Iraq. He was the one who pushed W into invading Iraq. |
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