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Post by mom on Apr 11, 2024 20:24:05 GMT
This is where I am at. I can't even feel sorry for those who stood with him til the end.
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Apr 11, 2024 20:44:38 GMT
He lived longer than the 2 people he murdered.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 11, 2024 21:31:47 GMT
the racism displayed by the LAPD Didn't one of the jurors pretty much admit that after the trial? Yep, more than one.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 11, 2024 23:10:54 GMT
The best comment I saw on social media this morning was "At last OJ can rest easy, knowing that his wife's killer is dead."
ETA: I see that someone else quoted that post on the first page.
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Nanner
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Post by Nanner on Apr 11, 2024 23:25:55 GMT
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Post by Zee on Apr 11, 2024 23:33:37 GMT
Didn't one of the jurors pretty much admit that after the trial? Yep, more than one. In all honesty I think they prevented a much larger riot from happening and while it's not right, I think at the time it couldn't have gone any other way. As time passed and all of the prior abuse came out, his book, etc I'm sure even those on the fence about his guilt changed their minds BUT no one wanted to believe that a hero was also a murderer.
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bethany102399
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Post by bethany102399 on Apr 12, 2024 2:00:31 GMT
I hope this allows both families of the people he murdered to feel some kind of peace, knowing he's gone and atoning for his actions.
I also think, or maybe I'm totally off base, that the case opened up the way we talk about spousal abuse and helped to create a culture that says lets talk about it and not cover it up as a "family problem". Stalking wasn't even identified as a crime until 1990. I remember her family having no clue that she was abused, and it shocking people that this guy, who was generally perceived as being a superstar was in fact an abuser and murder.
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Post by smasonnc on Apr 12, 2024 3:10:15 GMT
I thought I was a good person, but my reaction to this news would suggest otherwise.
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dawnnikol
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Post by dawnnikol on Apr 12, 2024 10:15:16 GMT
Story pasted in case you don't have Twitter:
I've been waiting 29 years to tell this story about OJ and his days at USC. Now that he's dead (may he burn in hell) I have a story that I signed an NDA for that is no longer valid. I was a junior at USC working in Topping Student Center on campus in 1995. I was an administrative assistant to the President of Student Affairs that semester in the work/study program.
In early 1995, Robert Shapiro and Robert Kardashian (USC Alumni) walked up to my desk and said they had an appt with my boss. I was studying to be a criminal defense lawyer with a dual major in PoliSci and International Relations so I knew who they were. The meeting lasted about 30 mins.
After they left I looked at my boss like wtf was that all about!? He walked me outside and we sat by the old sprawling big tree outside Topping and my boss lit a cigarette for the first time in years and told me I had to sign an NDA because I could confirm OJ's lawyers were there for a meeting. Then he told me what the meeting was about.
Before OJ could graduate from USC, the university paid off two families of two blonde white girls that he had dated and battered. They had both gone to the LAPD to report it. One claimed he also sexually assaulted her in their relationship. The school had a vested interest in OJ going far in football and protected him at all costs. OJ had been in custody for 6 months and lawyers were in the discovery process for the trial and OJ's friend Robert Kardashian, who knew OJ from also being a student at USC, thought it would be best if those stories never saw the light of day. So a large check was written, given to my boss, and they left. I'll never forget holding that check.
Now, did you hear about this before now? Nope. That's how much power money enables.
After he was acquitted I changed my major to Philosophy/Psychology double major. I understood that I could harm society more than not if I pursued law. This is also why I abhor the Kardashians. They're rich thugs. Nothing more. #OJISDEAD
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Post by Bridget in MD on Apr 12, 2024 12:06:34 GMT
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Post by needmysanity on Apr 12, 2024 12:30:13 GMT
I also think, or maybe I'm totally off base, that the case opened up the way we talk about spousal abuse and helped to create a culture that says lets talk about it and not cover it up as a "family problem". Stalking wasn't even identified as a crime until 1990. I remember her family having no clue that she was abused, and it shocking people that this guy, who was generally perceived as being a superstar was in fact an abuser and murder. It most defiantly did. I work in victim services and the trial brought domestic violence out of the shadows. Details emerged about years of abuse she endured. I think there were over 60 instances of DV. Survivor advocates credit this trial with sparking conversations and changes that persist today. The language even changed from "spousal abuse" to "domestic violence" because society was realizing abuse was happening in broader terms. The 1994 Violence Against Women Act was signed into law shortly after OJ's arrest. This legislation aimed to address domestic violence more effectively.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 12, 2024 12:34:36 GMT
In all honesty I think they prevented a much larger riot from happening and while it's not right, I think at the time it couldn't have gone any other way. As time passed and all of the prior abuse came out, his book, etc I'm sure even those on the fence about his guilt changed their minds BUT no one wanted to believe that a hero was also a murderer. I don't disagree with your analysis. A conviction very likely would have led to more riots- had the LAPD conducted themselves properly and the prosecution done a better job, it would have been much more difficult to justify an acquittal.
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SweetieBsMom
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Apr 12, 2024 12:43:42 GMT
Maybe Fred Goldman can collect a bit of money from O.J.’s estate now. I know nothing can make up for the loss of his young son, but it would be nice to think that his final years will be finally funded with the money owed from the civil suit. I was reading a story about this yesterday, with penalties/fees the families are owed close to $100M now. They're not going to see even close to that, unfortunately.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 12, 2024 16:08:20 GMT
Maybe Fred Goldman can collect a bit of money from O.J.’s estate now. I know nothing can make up for the loss of his young son, but it would be nice to think that his final years will be finally funded with the money owed from the civil suit. I was reading a story about this yesterday, with penalties/fees the families are owed close to $100M now. They're not going to see even close to that, unfortunately. I know that there were certain funds that OJ had that could not be taken from him in the civil suit judgment, but I am hoping that now that he is dead that money and any homes or memorabilia that he had could all be liquidated and given to the Goldman and Brown families. And I hope strongly that the Browns would make sure the two children were supported. I have no idea whether they remained in contact or not, but I would like to think they did. And while money cannot make up for what was taken from these families, it would give them the ability to travel or do whatever they wanted to do. I was reading yesterday that there was plenty of DNA evidence that showed Nicole’s blood and OJ’s blood in various areas of the home and on OJ’s infamous white Bronco. If the crime were committed today, OJ would have been convicted on the forensic evidence. DNA was still a bit new at that time, but it did prove OJ was there and bleeding at the time. They had to leave evidence out because of the blundering way it was handled. If certain things had been handled better, legally, and I am looking at you Mark Furman, he would not have gotten off. Furman did so many things that made solid evidence inadmissible that it makes me sick. I also read in, I think it was the same article, that Furman had been pulling an elaborate scheme to try to get early retirement with full benefits. He was one bad cop.
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 12, 2024 16:13:14 GMT
Is there anyone out there that really thought he was not guilty... I never see anyone stand up for that dude. Black, white, brown, pink... no one I have ever talked to defended him. And I never see anything online either. I don't hunt it out though, I am sure there are the wackos out there that will defend him till the end.. OH WAIT, it is the end. HA
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Post by rainangel on Apr 12, 2024 17:27:28 GMT
what a time that was in history. the car chase, the court trial, the verdict. people were glued to their tv. people remember where they were when the chase and verdict happened. it made you question if there were two justice systems--one for the rich and one for the regular folk. DNA evidence was so new and lots of people were swayed instead by the "if it doesn't fit, you must acquit". That all happened right around the Rodney King event and the racism displayed by the LAPD in that case is thought to have impacted the verdict in the OJ case. The police officer collecting nazi memorabilia didn't help with LAPD's reputation.
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Post by Laurie on Apr 12, 2024 19:48:13 GMT
I thought I was a good person, but my reaction to this news would suggest otherwise. Also thought I was a decent person. Then yesterday when talking about it I said “if the casket doesn’t fit, throw him in the pit” and then I realized I am not as good of a person as I thought. lol
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Post by Delta Dawn on Apr 12, 2024 19:55:45 GMT
I thought I was a good person, but my reaction to this news would suggest otherwise. Also thought I was a decent person. Then yesterday when talking about it I said “if the casket doesn’t fit, throw him in the pit” and then I realized I am not as good of a person as I thought. lol I get by knowing he suffered. I am an awful person (I will forgive myself.
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