edie3
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Post by edie3 on Apr 17, 2024 13:35:31 GMT
raised bed garden soil or regular garden soil? Thank you from this wanna be gardener.
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lindas
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Post by lindas on Apr 17, 2024 13:41:58 GMT
All you need to know about soil link.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 17, 2024 13:44:30 GMT
Potting soil is lighter, mostly composed of peat moss with some other stuff like pearlite mixed in. It’s primarily used for growing stuff in containers. I have (had?) a really pretty montevilla plant from last summer that I wanted to save so I repotted it in a bigger pot and brought it inside hoping I could overwinter it indoors. I used potting soil to fill the pot and I kind of wish I wouldn’t have because that soil is so light and doesn’t hold water very well at all. Every time I water that plant all the water goes straight through and into the tray at the bottom, and I think it died anyway. 🙄 😕
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edie3
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Post by edie3 on Apr 17, 2024 13:53:57 GMT
thanks, great information!
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Post by Tearisci on Apr 17, 2024 13:58:37 GMT
I bought some potting soil last year that was for raised gardens and it had chunks of wood in it and was really dense. I'm sure that's why some of my plants died because it choked them out.
I haven't decided if I'm doing a garden or not this year but I'll be using the finer Miracle Grow if I do.
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breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Apr 17, 2024 14:05:15 GMT
There was a video on Youtube recently on how garden stores charge more for the different types of soil/mix and what is really in it... it was interesting. The guy had a giant sifter and sifted all the things out. A lot of bags of dirt are basically the same thing with different prices. It was really enlightening. I went and found the video here's the link. ETA: last year I used some potting starter mix that was coconut husk shreds or something, and everything I started from seeds did really poorly.
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iowgirl
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Post by iowgirl on Apr 17, 2024 15:00:33 GMT
I used potting soil to fill the pot and I kind of wish I wouldn’t have because that soil is so light and doesn’t hold water very well at all. Every time I water that plant all the water goes straight through and into the tray at the bottom, and I think it died anyway. When potting soil dries completely out, it is hard to get it rehydrated. It is best to water from the 'bottom up' - if your saucer under your plant is big enough, fill it with water and let it soak up. You may need to add more water to completely get it rehydrated. You can also add water storing crystals to keep your plants hydrated, but you need to have a regular watering/feeding schedule to keep a plant alive and thriving. Letting it get as dry as a popcorn fart, then watering it does not bode well for the plant, I know from experience! LOL I try to pick a day of the week that I know I will be home and set it to my routine. I bought some potting soil last year that was for raised gardens and it had chunks of wood in it and was really dense. I'm sure that's why some of my plants died because it choked them out. Cheaper potting soils usually have a lot of filler in them that isn't great. I like Miracle Grow potting soil. It has the timed release fertilizer in it, which is GREAT STUFF! I reuse my outdoor potting soil, so I add the timed release to it every year. This is what I add for water retention. There are other brands that work great too. I know some use the water beads, but I am not so crazy about having those around with grandkids and pets. The water crystals are smaller and do not expand to large bead sizes. They are awesome to keep the pots hydrated though. I generally water my outdoor plants every day during the summer heat and twice a day if it is hot and windy - but these keep them moist in case I can't get to them: Use timed release fertilizer when potting plants, for indoor or outdoor. The difference between using this and not is astounding! I still do use some water soluable fertilizer about once a week in the summer for my flower outdoor plants, just to get that HUGE bloom going. It doesn't have to be this brand, but this is my go-to. These two things can really improve potting soil that you use over again or cheaper potting soils.
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iowgirl
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Post by iowgirl on Apr 17, 2024 15:10:48 GMT
This is a potting soil I started using last year. Amazing! It is compacted and very dry, so it is LIGHT to pick up and it has handles. I toss it in my big wheelbarrow and add the above products, wet it down well and use that to pot up plants. It's just so much easier than carrying big heavy bags of potting soil. I get it at Walmart, and if you order curbside pickup - they bring it out and load it in your rig - what could be better! With moisture crystals added: Without:
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Post by christine58 on Apr 17, 2024 15:20:33 GMT
edie3. Happy belated bday!
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 17, 2024 15:56:18 GMT
I agree with watering bottom up. It’s even a game changer. I use a pot and soak my plant for about 10 minutes. Don’t leave it for longer or your plant will suffocate a bit. Once the roots are established at the bottom of the pot, you can also water with a saucer.
I spent last Saturday pulling all of the dirt out of my raised herb garden and lightening it with various pots that had died over the winter (like my tomato plants in gallon pots, poinsettias, etc.) I literally had to chisel that dirt out of the planter! I also used a bag of miracle grow with moisture beads.
I’m going to look for those moisture beads that Iowgirl linked above! I have a bag of the sensory beads that I used for a sensory prayer station and added them to the flowers that I had on the window sill of our Belgium cottage. It made a huge difference in keeping them hydrated when we were gone for the weekend. I wouldn’t use them for vegetables/herbs that we eat, but they are fine for flowers.
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Post by Embri on Apr 17, 2024 16:15:56 GMT
Garden soil is its own branch of science, but you can break it down into a few basic components - food, water retention, drainage, pH adjustment and organics. All our garden beds and pots start with similar mixes - compost, sand, peat moss and our native clay soil, plus bonemeal and bloodmeal.
The premade store bags are rarely ideal on their own, you have to tailor your mix to the plant's needs and whatever's in the ground.
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cakediva
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Post by cakediva on Apr 17, 2024 16:48:08 GMT
YES!
I used garden soil to fill my herb box last year and total flop - it holds way too much moisture for the planter and I had little mushrooms everywhere lol.
My gardener friend (as in she has a landscape business) said to dump it in our large garden box (where we do tomatoes & DH's pot) and use a potting soil for the herb box.
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Post by stormsts on Apr 17, 2024 17:47:35 GMT
This is so interesting. All the information I need!
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edie3
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Post by edie3 on Apr 17, 2024 19:14:18 GMT
Lots of green thumbs here, thanks! And thanks christine58 for the birthday wishes!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 17, 2024 20:46:34 GMT
When potting soil dries completely out, it is hard to get it rehydrated. It is best to water from the 'bottom up' - if your saucer under your plant is big enough, fill it with water and let it soak up. You may need to add more water to completely get it rehydrated. You can also add water storing crystals to keep your plants hydrated, but you need to have a regular watering/feeding schedule to keep a plant alive and thriving. Letting it get as dry as a popcorn fart, then watering it does not bode well for the plant, I know from experience! LOL I try to pick a day of the week that I know I will be home and set it to my routine. This was a brand new bag so it wasn’t totally dried out when I potted the plant. The saucer is big but it has some pretty deep ridges in it so I think it’s not a great fit for the pot to allow the plant to soak up water from the bottom. My husband (the resident green thumb) has a watering schedule for all the plants so he’s been watering it but the thing still looks deader than a doornail. It was only a $7 plant but it got so full of blooms and pretty I wanted to save it.
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Post by craftymom101 on Apr 18, 2024 14:44:29 GMT
When I plant seedlings in 4" pots (in my greenhouse) I used a good Miracle Grow soil in each pot. I fertilize once the cotyledons have been replaced with real leaves, then transplant after 6-8 weeks.
I have five raised beds and I fill them with compost I get at Home Depot. The bag with white with a bold yellow stripe around the top of the bag. The compost is inexpensive ($2.88/bag), and I've had great luck growing veggies this year using this compost! I fertilize regularly and I have a watering system. I transplant the seedlings into the raised beds without issue.
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