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Post by cakediva on May 14, 2024 16:27:21 GMT
After almost a year of working with a Naturopath, my hot flashes went away and are now back with a vengeance. Even she agrees it might be time for hormone replacement. I've done all the bloodwork (vit d was low) and had an ultrasound, and just had my appt. with the Obgyn on Monday. She's said my ultrasound revealed nothing abnormal (it's not cancer or anything leading to my heavy periods when I have them), so her suggestion is hormone replacement.
I'm picking it all up today (pharmacy had to order in one of the parts) and I'm to wear a patch that I change twice a week, and take a pill in the evenings.
What have your experiences been? I'm not one to get the side effects of medications (at least not in my 55 years of ever taking one). I'm also wondering if they will have any effect on the menopause middle I have going on. Yes, I know diet needs to change as well (working on that) but did the hormone replacement help with that at all?
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Post by smartypants71 on May 14, 2024 16:52:21 GMT
If it's the Combipatch, I am on that as well. It's awesome for hot flashes. Mine went away in about 2 weeks or so. I did have some spotting/cramping, but that didn't last long. I would recommend buying some Remove wipes or use baby oil or alcohol wipes to remove the gunk from the adhesive after removal. Unfortunately it does not help with meno belly. The other downside is that in the US, most insurance companies don't provide great coverage for this particular thing (don't get me started), so I pay almost the entire cash price monthly (about $230). My husband actually pays for it because he says it's more pleasant for him when I'm on it LOL!
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Post by scrappert on May 14, 2024 17:12:56 GMT
OMG the meno belly!! I can't get it to at least lessen a little bit. So frustrating!!
Someone come with a cure for that....please.
Anyway, I just wanted to chime in on that. I have not been taking any HRT, I have one ovary left from hysterectomy at 36. I am 52 now and going through it, hot flashes and meno belly. No periods, thank God.
I hope this gives you some relief!
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Post by cakediva on May 14, 2024 17:42:48 GMT
If it's the Combipatch, I am on that as well. It's awesome for hot flashes. Mine went away in about 2 weeks or so. I did have some spotting/cramping, but that didn't last long. I would recommend buying some Remove wipes or use baby oil or alcohol wipes to remove the gunk from the adhesive after removal. Unfortunately it does not help with meno belly. The other downside is that in the US, most insurance companies don't provide great coverage for this particular thing (don't get me started), so I pay almost the entire cash price monthly (about $230). My husband actually pays for it because he says it's more pleasant for him when I'm on it LOL! I just picked it all up - it’s an estrogen patch and a progesterone pill. I’m having issues keeping the patch stuck to me at first so I moved it to my lower belly and that seems to work better. DH has an amazing drug plan with work so it is all covered. Being on the relief!!
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Post by quiltz on May 14, 2024 18:00:02 GMT
I just picked it all up - it’s an estrogen patch and a progesterone pill. I’m having issues keeping the patch stuck to me at first so I moved it to my lower belly and that seems to work better. Make sure that the area where you are putting the patch doesn't have sweat or has oil skin. Unfortunately, it will be harder in the summer. Well, it was for me as I simply cannot handle humidity and found few places were the patch would stick. The meno belly and for me, the increase in boob volume was an issue. I really hope that this will work for you.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 14, 2024 18:02:44 GMT
I’ve been hearing more about HRT lately and am interested in this as well, but worried about the cost. I have night sweats at times but my biggest concern is body aches. I recently heard on a podcast that about 80% of women have this and I had never thought about that possibly being linked to hormones. If hrt could help with that I would be thrilled.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on May 14, 2024 18:21:16 GMT
HRT saved me from a life of peri and meno hell. I originally started on progesterone and testosterone. We have since added estrogen to the mix to help with hot flashes.
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Post by dev on May 14, 2024 18:26:43 GMT
Check out a website called Menopause Chicks. She has a ton of information about all things peri and menopause. www.menopausechicks.com/about-5Shirley Weir will change your life!!
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Post by milocat on May 14, 2024 19:15:31 GMT
I’ve been hearing more about HRT lately and am interested in this as well, but worried about the cost. I have night sweats at times but my biggest concern is body aches. I recently heard on a podcast that about 80% of women have this and I had never thought about that possibly being linked to hormones. If hrt could help with that I would be thrilled. There are something like 50 symptoms that can be perimenopause beyond the hot flashes and insomnia. Frozen shoulder, dry eyes, joint aches, brain fog, vaginal dryness, thinning hair,heart palpitations, depression, anxiety, low energy, UTIs etc. All need HRT not SSRIs, statins, birth control, antibiotics. I'm on progesterone during my luteal phase and it's helping my hormonal migraines. Still working my way up in dosage. I've also gained more around my middle. The HRT won't melt the fat away but that it could stop more from coming, I think.
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Post by mom on May 14, 2024 20:58:31 GMT
If it's the Combipatch, I am on that as well. It's awesome for hot flashes. Mine went away in about 2 weeks or so. I did have some spotting/cramping, but that didn't last long. I would recommend buying some Remove wipes or use baby oil or alcohol wipes to remove the gunk from the adhesive after removal. Unfortunately it does not help with meno belly. The other downside is that in the US, most insurance companies don't provide great coverage for this particular thing (don't get me started), so I pay almost the entire cash price monthly (about $230). My husband actually pays for it because he says it's more pleasant for him when I'm on it LOL! I just picked it all up - it’s an estrogen patch and a progesterone pill. I’m having issues keeping the patch stuck to me at first so I moved it to my lower belly and that seems to work better.DH has an amazing drug plan with work so it is all covered. Being on the relief!! Clean the area you want to wear it on with some rubbing alcohol and it will help.
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Post by mom on May 14, 2024 21:00:17 GMT
HRT saved me from a life of peri and meno hell. I originally started on progesterone and testosterone. We have since added estrogen to the mix to help with hot flashes. Same and I will never go without it if I get a choice. My life had an 180 degree change for the better and addressed so many things symptoms that I didnt realize was hormonal.
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Post by busy on May 14, 2024 21:33:12 GMT
I’ve been hearing more about HRT lately and am interested in this as well, but worried about the cost. I have night sweats at times but my biggest concern is body aches. I recently heard on a podcast that about 80% of women have this and I had never thought about that possibly being linked to hormones. If hrt could help with that I would be thrilled. Both estradiol patches and progesterone are inexpensive and pretty much universally covered by insurance.
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Post by seaexplore on May 15, 2024 5:05:56 GMT
I'm pushing thru with my hotflashes. Haven't had a period since I was 48 in June 2022- so almost 2 full years. I don't miss my periods one bit and these hot flashes can find a deep dark hole and die in it. I'm so over them. I have 3-5 a night pretty much like clockwork- 9:30 pm, 12 am (sometimes I skip this one), 2:30 am, 4:30 am (sometimes I skip this one), 6 am. It SUCKS! My sleep is so fragmented! Thankfully I don't have them often during the day but omg when they come on it's HORRIBLE!
I keep thinking about maybe doing HRT and then I remember the studies on heart health and breast cancer and all that mess and think twice about it and don't make the call.
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Post by cakediva on May 15, 2024 12:35:59 GMT
I'm pushing thru with my hotflashes. Haven't had a period since I was 48 in June 2022- so almost 2 full years. I don't miss my periods one bit and these hot flashes can find a deep dark hole and die in it. I'm so over them. I have 3-5 a night pretty much like clockwork- 9:30 pm, 12 am (sometimes I skip this one), 2:30 am, 4:30 am (sometimes I skip this one), 6 am. It SUCKS! My sleep is so fragmented! Thankfully I don't have them often during the day but omg when they come on it's HORRIBLE! I keep thinking about maybe doing HRT and then I remember the studies on heart health and breast cancer and all that mess and think twice about it and don't make the call. That's in the back of my mind as well - but I know they've come a LONG way since my mom's day and age lol. But I gave in - I'm miserable. And it is about to be 1000 degrees of summer out and there is nowhere to go to cool off but the fridge lol.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 15, 2024 12:48:49 GMT
What is the process for being prescribed HRT? I assume they test your hormones but is that just a one time blood test? What else do they do at the initial appt?
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Post by seaexplore on May 15, 2024 13:02:57 GMT
I'm pushing thru with my hotflashes. Haven't had a period since I was 48 in June 2022- so almost 2 full years. I don't miss my periods one bit and these hot flashes can find a deep dark hole and die in it. I'm so over them. I have 3-5 a night pretty much like clockwork- 9:30 pm, 12 am (sometimes I skip this one), 2:30 am, 4:30 am (sometimes I skip this one), 6 am. It SUCKS! My sleep is so fragmented! Thankfully I don't have them often during the day but omg when they come on it's HORRIBLE! I keep thinking about maybe doing HRT and then I remember the studies on heart health and breast cancer and all that mess and think twice about it and don't make the call. That's in the back of my mind as well - but I know they've come a LONG way since my mom's day and age lol. But I gave in - I'm miserable. And it is about to be 1000 degrees of summer out and there is nowhere to go to cool off but the fridge lol. Yep to alllll that! Ain’t it fun being a female? 😂
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Post by SallyPA on May 15, 2024 13:06:19 GMT
What is the process for being prescribed HRT? I assume they test your hormones but is that just a one time blood test? What else do they do at the initial appt? Blood work is required if under 45 yo or older than 55. Otherwise, your provider may order it for a baseline and to rule out other issues (thyroid, vit S, etc) but is not always necessary. You should see a GYN (I’m a gyn PA and talk about HRT all day long lol). You should be up to date on your exam, pap, and mammogram. And then your provider should ask about symptoms and have a discussion on perimenopause. That’s all.
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Post by teddyw on May 15, 2024 13:55:59 GMT
www.menopause.org/This site has resources. Even links to menopause specialists in your area.
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Post by milocat on May 15, 2024 14:27:51 GMT
cakedivaI'm pushing thru with my hotflashes. Haven't had a period since I was 48 in June 2022- so almost 2 full years. I don't miss my periods one bit and these hot flashes can find a deep dark hole and die in it. I'm so over them. I have 3-5 a night pretty much like clockwork- 9:30 pm, 12 am (sometimes I skip this one), 2:30 am, 4:30 am (sometimes I skip this one), 6 am. It SUCKS! My sleep is so fragmented! Thankfully I don't have them often during the day but omg when they come on it's HORRIBLE! I keep thinking about maybe doing HRT and then I remember the studies on heart health and breast cancer and all that mess and think twice about it and don't make the call. All lies! The WHI (women's health initiative) study was done on women well into menopause, there were women as old as 79 who had never had any HRT before, using synthetic HRT. The absolute risk for breast cancer increased by 0.8% (many lifestyle factors are a bigger worry, drinking, stress, being overweight etc) but colorectal cancer decreased. There is a decreased risk of dementia, general urinary symptom, cardiovascular. Now women are prescribed bioidentical which is even better. Women who do develop breaat cancer have better odds at survival and cardiovascular disease kills more women than all cancers combined. The WHI in 2002 made a false claim that estrogen causes breast cancer and 22 yeara later doctors and patients still believe this. The stat was something crazy like 80% of women were on HRT and the stopped overnight and today 14% are on it. There are even women who have had breast cancer on HRT. Makes me so angry for my mom's generation who missed out on this and are now suffering from dementia, osteoporosis, cardiovascular disease. Yet they had out birth control like their tic tacs to anyone ages 10-60 with any sort of female issue. I've learnt a lot from books and Instagram and podcast pages like Estrogen Matters, Dr Louise Newson, Dr Jen Gunter, Dr Mary Claire Haver just to name a few
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Post by cakediva on May 15, 2024 14:47:58 GMT
What is the process for being prescribed HRT? I assume they test your hormones but is that just a one time blood test? What else do they do at the initial appt? So I'm in Canada, and things might be different here. But 55, been going through the peri-menopause crap for a good few years now. I finally went and had bloodwork at the suggestion of my Naturopath (here in Canada, if my family doctor orders it, paid for, if the Naturopath does, I pay for every test) - I went to my doctor and she sent me for bloodwork, (my Naturopath added 3 tests she hadn't ordered) an ultrasound (and they did a regular & transvaginal) to check my uterine lining (no signs of cancer or anything else causing heavy periods) and finally an appointment with the OB/GYN. She went right to HRT. I started yesterday (and did notice a halo in my vision about 30 minutes after applying my patch, no migraine though) so now we wait and see!
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Post by smartypants71 on May 16, 2024 23:07:27 GMT
What is the process for being prescribed HRT? I assume they test your hormones but is that just a one time blood test? What else do they do at the initial appt? I did not have to do anything extra BUT I have Type 1 diabetes, so my endocrinologist prescribed mine. I already do annual bloodwork, so that may be why it was so straightforward.
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Post by scrappinmama on May 17, 2024 14:11:50 GMT
If it's the Combipatch, I am on that as well. It's awesome for hot flashes. Mine went away in about 2 weeks or so. I did have some spotting/cramping, but that didn't last long. I would recommend buying some Remove wipes or use baby oil or alcohol wipes to remove the gunk from the adhesive after removal. Unfortunately it does not help with meno belly. The other downside is that in the US, most insurance companies don't provide great coverage for this particular thing (don't get me started), so I pay almost the entire cash price monthly (about $230). My husband actually pays for it because he says it's more pleasant for him when I'm on it LOL! I just picked it all up - it’s an estrogen patch and a progesterone pill. I’m having issues keeping the patch stuck to me at first so I moved it to my lower belly and that seems to work better. DH has an amazing drug plan with work so it is all covered. Being on the relief!! I'm on the same patch and pill. I have had good luck putting it on my hip. That was one of the suggestions I was given. I have been on it for 3 weeks and my hot flashes are gone. All my other symptoms have gone away. I feel like my younger self again!
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Post by scrappinmama on May 17, 2024 14:15:24 GMT
I'm pushing thru with my hotflashes. Haven't had a period since I was 48 in June 2022- so almost 2 full years. I don't miss my periods one bit and these hot flashes can find a deep dark hole and die in it. I'm so over them. I have 3-5 a night pretty much like clockwork- 9:30 pm, 12 am (sometimes I skip this one), 2:30 am, 4:30 am (sometimes I skip this one), 6 am. It SUCKS! My sleep is so fragmented! Thankfully I don't have them often during the day but omg when they come on it's HORRIBLE! I keep thinking about maybe doing HRT and then I remember the studies on heart health and breast cancer and all that mess and think twice about it and don't make the call. That's in the back of my mind as well - but I know they've come a LONG way since my mom's day and age lol. But I gave in - I'm miserable. And it is about to be 1000 degrees of summer out and there is nowhere to go to cool off but the fridge lol. Look at the latest research. All of those claims have been proven false. I wish I had the study handy, but there is evidence that it decreases colon cancer risk by over 40%! I hate that women were convinced to just suffer through it. It makes me so angry.
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Post by laurasw on May 17, 2024 19:31:45 GMT
HRT saved me from a life of peri and meno hell. I originally started on progesterone and testosterone. We have since added estrogen to the mix to help with hot flashes. Same and I will never go without it if I get a choice. My life had an 180 degree change for the better and addressed so many things symptoms that I didnt realize was hormonal. Same for me, too. I do the pellet and it's very expensive but my husband has been completely on board with it for ALL of the benefits
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Post by mom on May 17, 2024 21:43:23 GMT
Same and I will never go without it if I get a choice. My life had an 180 degree change for the better and addressed so many things symptoms that I didnt realize was hormonal. Same for me, too. I do the pellet and it's very expensive but my husband has been completely on board with it for ALL of the benefits Yep, lol. Mine works out to $100 month but it is worth waaaaay more than that to me!
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Post by busy on May 17, 2024 21:53:59 GMT
There are a few of the HRT products that are quite pricey but don't have proof of being more efficacious than a basic estradiol patch and progesterone capsules, which combined come out to under $50/month for both, even without insurance coverage.
The compounded pellets are especially expensive, aren't FDA approved, and aren't proven to be any better than the basic options. So don't think you can't get HRT because it's out of your budget - it's very likely there's high quality solution that's still affordable for you.
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Post by cakediva on May 17, 2024 22:11:59 GMT
There are a few of the HRT products that are quite pricey but don't have proof of being more efficacious than a basic estradiol patch and progesterone capsules, which combined come out to under $50/month for both, even without insurance coverage. The compounded pellets are especially expensive and aren't proven to be any better than the basic options. So don't think you can get HRT because it's out of your budget - it's very likely there's high quality solution that's still affordable for you. Luckily mine is fully covered through DH’s work benefits yay!
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