Appropriate graduation speech?

It wouldnt matter if his mom were a cashier at the local grocery store- work is important no matter what it is or who does it.

Exactly! Many young people today can't afford to buy a house or rent an apartment, much less stay home and be a homemaker. Whatever the f that is.  What a jackass.

This attitude was prevalent with some of my uncles back in the 70s when they asked my dad why he was sending me to college. Thankfully, he gave them a strong response.

They may have been pursuing a M.R.S. degree. 🤷‍♀️

Apparently, his comments insulted the LGBTQ community as well as women. The college also has extremely conservative views.

www.nytimes.com/athletic/5493651/2024/05/14/chiefs-harrison-butker-pride-month-sin/

Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker says Pride Month is example of ‘deadly sin’ during commencement speech

Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker, speaking during a commencement speech at Benedictine College, referred to Pride Month, the events in June demonstrating inclusivity and support for the LGBTQ+ community, as an example of the “deadly sins” as he advocated for a more conservative brand of Catholicism.

“Not the deadly sins sort of Pride that has an entire month dedicated to it,” Butker said, “but the true God-centered pride that is cooperating with the holy ghost to glorify him.”

Butker, 28, criticized an Associated Press article on America’s Catholic Church, which detailed the institution’s shift “toward the old ways.” It highlighted Benedictine’s rules that “seem like precepts of a bygone age,” which include “volunteering for 3 a.m. prayers” and “pornography, premarital sex and sunbathing in swimsuits being forbidden.”

“It is you, the women, who have had the most diabolic lies told to you. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world,” Butker said.

I am a professor at a Catholic university and this is definitely not something consistent with my university's values.  It was really distressing.  The disrespect for the majority-female student body's academic achievements; the purporting to be the dude telling women what they value; the weird flex about getting his wife to convert; the homophobia; all of it.  Also the fact that his mother has a career outside the home, and he's telling these women not to be like his own mother, which seems really disrespectful.  And the fact that women can make and should make their own choices about their lives, but being a person without a career makes you economically vulnerable if anything happens to your spouse or marriage, which isn't something I think he appreciates; if he wants to give this speech, at least tell those women to get a prenup that pays them for their time at home and compensates them for giving up career advancement, which is smart for women who are considering that life path.

Anyhow, the tl;dr is yeah, this isn't Catholic universities.  This is THIS Catholic university, and I hope those young women had people ready to celebrate their accomplishments afterwards.

I agreed with 0 things he said but thought it was really rich how a football player was up there preaching about people needing to stay in their lanes . . . except HIM I guess.

The Chargers released a video Sims style of their upcoming schedule. In the video, they have Butker in the kitchen! If you click on the link, it will take you to X

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I had every intention of using my degree but the jobs available at the time as a graduate payed less than a McDonalds manager. Could’ve seriously affected someone’s health in the field I studied but flipping burgers was of more value. I retrained and started working in a different field.
Yes I did look into job prospects before I started my degree, yes they are still harping on about how they want more women in the field I have a degree in (science/tech) but if I can’t feed my kids then what’s the point?
Like during the pandemic when doctors and nurses were suddenly required and people starsted to realise how underpaid and undervalued they were…

This was also me. I worked when we were first married, but as soon as we started to try for kids, we had a long talk about how that was going to work. DH was going in to work at 5 am and wouldn’t be home until after 6pm. Someone’s career was going to have to take a backseat and we chose mine as the lower wage earner. (The job market for me in the early 90s was brutal in our little town in Texas.)

I have no regrets whatsoever about getting my degree. I was also trying to be prepared if I had to be the main wage earner. It made me a critical thinker and exposed me to a much wider world.

I went to an all women’s Catholic university and we were definitely not taught that we should expect to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. DD also attended the same university 30 years later and feels the same way. She graduated with her doctorate last weekend from another private Catholic university and the message from the speakers was essentially, “go out and fix the mess the world is in.” Other than acknowledging the mothers present (it was Mother’s Day in the US), there wasn’t a single reference to being a traditional wife or mother.

Put him on ignore

This one is even better - it's by a former Chiefs cheerleader:

www.tiktok.com/@stefhills/video/7369404451536276779


Or through this link:


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I was going to say the same thing. While my husband and I are no longer Catholic, both of our extended families are almost entirely Catholic. In my experience, Catholics are not conservative. While the church is conservative, a lot of the congregation are often progressive. Even my 94 year old Catholic mother is pro-choice and she worked for most of her life. she encouraged my sister and I to have careers. 

Notice I bolded "in my experience". I can only speak about the Catholics that I know.

I want to add, the idea of a Mrs Degree troubles me. Are we living in the 1950's? Do people really only go to college to get a man? For what it's worth, I don't have to work. But I choose to work. We are more than just home makers.

My very devout Catholic mom was quite progressive and worked most of her adult life too. In fact, she owned a business up until she had several kids, and even after she sold it to her friend she still worked part time for her friend when we were in school. My mom was so much more than only a wife and mother and never settled for those limitations for her girls.

Then there are loads of women like me who “work” with their self employed spouses, doing bookkeeping, running home offices, maintaining websites, troubleshooting all sorts of things on top of running my own part time business in and between taking care of all things household and kid related. My DH considers me an equal partner in the business. I ditched all religion decades ago.

Yeah, the provost of my university is gay. My Dean is gay. We have a women’s law caucus, an LGBTQ+ student org, a trans student org, and both of us who are vice deans of my school are women. There definitely are more and less “traditional,” for lack of a better word, Catholic universities, and I would hate for people to get the impression that this sort of thing is consistent with all or even the majority of Catholic universities. They definitely cover the spectrum, and we’re an inclusive campus. We do occasionally have an issue around something or other, but TBH we had the exact same pushback when I taught at a public university. There are simply some loud, wealthy people out there whose values aren’t consistent with higher ed who insist they have something to say about it.

Anyhow, this guy is a full adult married with kids and has access to a publicist and all sorts of image-control personnel, and this wasn’t a post on Twitter but a prepared-in-advance speech. I think it’s fair to hold him responsible for what he says.