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Post by melanell on May 27, 2024 20:53:50 GMT
I used to have this recipe for blondies and every time I made it, it was a chore. They always required far more time in the oven than the recipe called for, they took forever to set up once they left the oven, and occasionally they just wouldn't set up at all.
So fast forward probably a good 5 years since I tried them, and DH tried an entirely different blondie recipe today. Same issues. Different recipe, different ingredient base, different person making them, and even a different oven. Same exact result, though. DH kept putting them back in, and then he let them sit out for hours to cool, and when he cut them they looked just barely better than raw inside.
What the heck are we doing wrong? We can more than adequately bake plenty of other things, LOL!
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Post by breetheflea on May 27, 2024 20:56:38 GMT
I have that problem with brownies, they always require at least 15 minutes more than the recipe/box mix saysā¦
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Post by melanell on May 27, 2024 21:01:27 GMT
I have that problem with brownies, they always require at least 15 minutes more than the recipe/box mix saysā¦ See, I'm not a huge brownie fan, so I pretty much never make those, or maybe I'd find I have the same issue with those, too. I just keep wondering how the baking times on these recipes possibly work for other people.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 27, 2024 21:06:32 GMT
Do you have a separate oven thermometer to check what your oven temp actually is inside? A lot of baking issues come down to the oven isnāt running at the right temp, either too hot and stuff burns or not hot enough and it takes way longer for stuff to get done. Itās a common enough issue that it could be the same problem even with different ovens. I was having issues with one of my double ovens and sure enough, once I put an oven thermometer inside I realized the oven runs about 15-20Ā° hotter than what itās set at. After I knew that, I could adjust accordingly. There is supposedly a way to recalibrate my oven but from the directions it seemed more complicated than I wanted to take on, when I can just intentionally set the oven 15Ā° lower at the outset and that works too.
ETA: One other thing to look at is the pan youāre baking it in. If youāre using a smaller pan (8āx8) and the dough is thicker in it, it will take longer to bake than if itās a bigger pan (say 7āx11ā) and the dough is thinner. My personal favorite pan to bake brownies in is 7āx11ā because I just love how quickly and evenly they bake in it. Also, things baked in a shiny silver colored pan will cook slower than the same thing baked in a dark colored pan. Weird but true. Also the thickness of the pan itself can affect bake times too.
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Post by snyder on May 27, 2024 21:07:04 GMT
Do you use glass baking dishes? They cook hot so the edges may be done, but the inside undercooked.
Also, ingredients are like they use to be. Most butter substitutes are pumped full of water, thus screwing up recipes big time.
Even butter is has some water. I might change out the fat for 1/2 butter and 1/2 Butter Crisco.
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Post by melanell on May 27, 2024 22:37:30 GMT
Do you have a separate oven thermometer to check what your oven temp actually is inside? A lot of baking issues come down to the oven isnāt running at the right temp, either too hot and stuff burns or not hot enough and it takes way longer for stuff to get done. We do have one, but it's not in the oven right now. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have to dig it out and double check. Do you use glass baking dishes? They cook hot so the edges may be done, but the inside undercooked.
Also, ingredients are like they use to be. Most butter substitutes are pumped full of water, thus screwing up recipes big time.
Even butter is has some water. I might change out the fat for 1/2 butter and 1/2 Butter Crisco. Yes, actually, it was a glass pan, and the pan I used for the other recipe, while not the same size, was a glass pan, too. I will definitely try a metal pan next time. And so true about ingredient quality. I do typically keep a small container of Crisco on hand in case a recipe specifically asks for it, so I'll have to give that a try. Thanks!
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Post by gottapeanow on May 27, 2024 22:49:50 GMT
If by blondies, you mean chocolate chip cookie bars, yes. I have made them for decades and make them so often that I have the recipe memorized. Not only that, sometimes people have paid me to make them. I used to always use margarine (3 sticks), and they turned out fine. But I recently started using butter, and they are definitely better.
I always use a light-colored metal baking pan. They turn out a bit gooey (intentional) but firm up a bit after they cool.
I also just made brownies using a brand-new recipe. It was one bowl and incredibly easy. Best. Brownies. Ever. I have always loved the Ghiradelli box mix and even my mom's recipe. But this one blew those out of the water (IMO). Again, I used a light-colored metal baking pan. The time called for 20 to 24 minutes. I baked them for 22 minutes. Perfection.
Hope these tips will help!
Lisa
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Post by mollycoddle on May 28, 2024 1:56:57 GMT
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Post by lucyg on May 28, 2024 2:11:05 GMT
I make the recipe from my old Joy of Cooking book. Itās not actually called blondies, I think itās called butterscotch brownies. Does not call for chocolate chips but they could be added.
I donāt bake them in a regular pan. I use a mini muffin pan (make them for afternoon tea mini desserts) and press half a pecan into the top of each.
They are fabulous. Never underbaked, but always chewy and delicious. Very popular among our friends and family.
Iāve made lots of little changes to the recipe. Would be happy to post both versions here if anyone wants them.
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Post by SweetieBugs on May 28, 2024 2:26:57 GMT
I make the recipe from my old Joy of Cooking book. Itās not actually called blondies, I think itās called butterscotch brownies. Does not call for chocolate chips but they could be added.Ā I donāt bake them in a regular pan. I use a mini muffin pan (make them for afternoon tea mini desserts) and press half a pecan into the top of each. They are fabulous. Never underbaked, but always chewy and delicious. Very popular among our friends and family. Iāve made lots of little changes to the recipe. Would be happy to post both versions here if anyone wants them. Would love the recipe. Your use of a mini muffin pan is genius.
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Post by huskergal on May 28, 2024 3:13:12 GMT
I've always cooked mine in a glass pan. I use butter. I bake them a bit longer than the recipe says and then let them sit when I pull them out of the oven. They usually turn out fine.
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Post by lucyg on May 28, 2024 4:18:51 GMT
I make the recipe from my old Joy of Cooking book. Itās not actually called blondies, I think itās called butterscotch brownies. Does not call for chocolate chips but they could be added. I donāt bake them in a regular pan. I use a mini muffin pan (make them for afternoon tea mini desserts) and press half a pecan into the top of each. They are fabulous. Never underbaked, but always chewy and delicious. Very popular among our friends and family. Iāve made lots of little changes to the recipe. Would be happy to post both versions here if anyone wants them. Would love the recipe. Your use of a mini muffin pan is genius. Check back tomorrow. Iāll type it in in the morning.
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Post by Lexica on May 28, 2024 5:04:39 GMT
I will be checking for the recipe too. Thank you, lucyg. And checking your oven temp is so important. My mom and I took a cake decorating class together years ago and the instructor pointed out which of us had improperly calibrated ovens based on the looks of our unfrosted cakes. Especially the ones that were rounded at the top. Our oven was off and we just learned to adjust the temp and time ourselves.
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Post by melanell on May 28, 2024 10:48:33 GMT
I always use a light-colored metal baking pan. Thanks. I will definitely go for a metal pan next time. I *think* that this is the one that I like best, from Cookās Illustrated. Thanks for the 2 new recipes to try. Okay, now that is a really fun idea! Our closest grocery store sells brownies made that way, and yet it still never dawned on me to try it myself. I bake them a bit longer than the recipe says I think maybe I was freaking myself out about them needing more time and I should just roll with it next time. Our oven was off and we just learned to adjust the temp and time ourselves. I couldn't find our thermometer last night, but I'll ask DH if he knows where it is so that we can check ours.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 28, 2024 12:15:04 GMT
I always use a light-colored metal baking pan. Thanks. I will definitely go for a metal pan next time. I *think* that this is the one that I like best, from Cookās Illustrated. Thanks for the 2 new recipes to try. Okay, now that is a really fun idea! Our closest grocery store sells brownies made that way, and yet it still never dawned on me to try it myself. I bake them a bit longer than the recipe says I think maybe I was freaking myself out about them needing more time and I should just roll with it next time. Our oven was off and we just learned to adjust the temp and time ourselves. I couldn't find our thermometer last night, but I'll ask DH if he knows where it is so that we can check ours. I always read the reviews-at least the first 10 or 20. āŗļø I looked at the recipes again; I remembered that is why I reduced the chocolate in Inaās recipe. I also always use a metal pan, because I like them better. Some people had difficulty with Inaās recipe, but I didnāt. I would suggest trying the Cookās Illustrated recipe first, because if you have ever watched them on tv or YouTube, they do exhaustive testing, and their recipes tend to be very reliable. Now I want blondies! š lol. I was curious to see if this recipe is on YouTube, and it is! youtu.be/vFwqEs3nR2w?si=QxgQexEgSfHHh1ly
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Post by lily on May 28, 2024 13:19:12 GMT
I make the recipe from my old Joy of Cooking book. Itās not actually called blondies, I think itās called butterscotch brownies. Does not call for chocolate chips but they could be added. I donāt bake them in a regular pan. I use a mini muffin pan (make them for afternoon tea mini desserts) and press half a pecan into the top of each. They are fabulous. Never underbaked, but always chewy and delicious. Very popular among our friends and family. Iāve made lots of little changes to the recipe. Would be happy to post both versions here if anyone wants them. YES RECIPE PLEASE!!!
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Post by melanell on May 28, 2024 22:40:37 GMT
I would suggest trying the Cookās Illustrated recipe first, because if you have ever watched them on tv or YouTube, they do exhaustive testing, and their recipes tend to be very reliable. Thanks! I definitely like the idea of trying a well-tested recipe. At least then if it doesn't work out I know it's definitely on me!
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Post by peasapie on May 28, 2024 22:48:44 GMT
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Post by lucyg on May 29, 2024 1:03:35 GMT
Apologies to those looking for my recipe. I started typing this AM but didnāt finish. I will get there, sorry!
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Post by hop2 on May 29, 2024 10:07:41 GMT
Do you have a separate oven thermometer to check what your oven temp actually is inside? A lot of baking issues come down to the oven isnāt running at the right temp, either too hot and stuff burns or not hot enough and it takes way longer for stuff to get done. Itās a common enough issue that it could be the same problem even with different ovens. I was having issues with one of my double ovens and sure enough, once I put an oven thermometer inside I realized the oven runs about 15-20Ā° hotter than what itās set at. After I knew that, I could adjust accordingly. There is supposedly a way to recalibrate my oven but from the directions it seemed more complicated than I wanted to take on, when I can just intentionally set the oven 15Ā° lower at the outset and that works too. ETA: One other thing to look at is the pan youāre baking it in. If youāre using a smaller pan (8āx8) and the dough is thicker in it, it will take longer to bake than if itās a bigger pan (say 7āx11ā) and the dough is thinner. My personal favorite pan to bake brownies in is 7āx11ā because I just love how quickly and evenly they bake in it. Also, things baked in a shiny silver colored pan will cook slower than the same thing baked in a dark colored pan. Weird but true. Also the thickness of the pan itself can affect bake times too. All if what she said. The oven, the pan, the ingredients all true. Brownies & blondies always seemed better in the rectangle pan rather than square - however, with mixes, some of the box mixes have shrinkflated so the proportions now work in the square pan. šš¤£ and muffins make 5 rather than 6. Itās ridiculous. But definitely play around with crazy4scraps advice she nailed the variables that are giving you trouble
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Post by melanell on May 29, 2024 14:22:16 GMT
Thank you! Brownies & blondies always seemed better in the rectangle pan rather than square I did use an 8x8 pan this past time when I tried, but I have 10x6 metal pan, which is very close in overall size, so maybe that will help my chances when I try again.
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Post by lucyg on May 29, 2024 22:28:52 GMT
How I make my mini blondies:
The Joy of Cooking, 1964 edition, p653 (original recipe)
BUTTERSCOTCH BROWNIES Makes about 16 thin 2-1/4ā squares
An all-time favorite, easily made. Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
Melt in a saucepan: 1/4 cup butter Stir into it until dissolved: 1 cup brown sugar Cool these ingredients slightly. Beat in well: 1 egg, 1 tsp vanilla Sift, then measure: 1/2 cup all-purpose flour Resift it with: 1 tsp double-acting baking powder, 1/2 tsp salt Stir these ingredients into the butter mixture. Add: 1/2-1 cup finely chopped nuts or 3/4 cup grated coconut Chopped dates and figs may be substituted entirely or in part. Use a little of the flour over them. Pour the batter into a greased 9x9 pan. Bake for about 20-25 minutes. Cut into bars when cool.
LUCYGāS BLONDIES (adapted from butterscotch brownies recipe, above)
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Butter the wells of one or more mini muffin pans. I use real butter, not spray. Makes around 36+ mini blondies, but it really depends on the size of your mini muffin pans. They vary. I double the recipe for a large tea party.
Melt 1/4 cup butter in a large glass bowl in the microwave. Mix in the remaining ingredients by hand. 1 cup brown sugar, then allow to cool slightly. Beat in 1 egg and 1 tsp vanilla well. Stir together 1/2 cup AP flour, 1 tsp baking powder, and 1/2 tsp salt, then stir into the butter mixture.
I havenāt tried it, but I donāt see why you couldnāt add mini chocolate chips to the recipe.
Place 1 tsp of batter into each mini muffin well. Top each with 1 whole (or broken, if you prefer) pecan. I bake for 10 minutes, but you may need to experiment to find the exact right baking time (and amount of batter). The batter rises up and completely covers the pecan while it bakes, so itās like a little surprise inside when they take a bite. But you could leave this out if you donāt want to add nuts.
Take out of the oven and use a thin, sharp knife around the edges of each blondie to loosen it from the sides. Let stand a few minutes, then use a dinner knife to carefully pop out each blondie. Eat a few warm, of course, but allow most to cool before serving or storing.
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Post by melanell on May 29, 2024 23:05:31 GMT
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Post by SweetieBugs on May 29, 2024 23:53:25 GMT
How I make my mini blondies: The Joy of Cooking, 1964 edition, p653 (original recipe) BUTTERSCOTCH BROWNIES Makes about 16 thin 2-1/4ā squares An all-time favorite, easily made. Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Melt in a saucepan: 1/4 cup butter Stir into it until dissolved: 1 cup brown sugar Cool these ingredients slightly. Beat in well: 1 egg, 1 tsp vanilla Sift, then measure: 1/2 cup all-purpose flour Resift it with: 1 tsp double-acting baking powder, 1/2 tsp salt Stir these ingredients into the butter mixture. Add: 1/2-1 cup finely chopped nuts or 3/4 cup grated coconut Chopped dates and figs may be substituted entirely or in part. Use a little of the flour over them. Pour the batter into a greased 9x9 pan. Bake for about 20-25 minutes. Cut into bars when cool. LUCYGāS BLONDIES (adapted from butterscotch brownies recipe, above) Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Butter the wells of one or more mini muffin pans. I use real butter, not spray. Makes around 36+ mini blondies, but it really depends on the size of your mini muffin pans. They vary. I double the recipe for a large tea party. Melt 1/4 cup butter in a large glass bowl in the microwave. Mix in the remaining ingredients by hand. 1 cup brown sugar, then allow to cool slightly. Beat in 1 egg and 1 tsp vanilla well. Stir together 1/2 cup AP flour, 1 tsp baking powder, and 1/2 tsp salt, then stir into the butter mixture. I havenāt tried it, but I donāt see why you couldnāt add mini chocolate chips to the recipe. Place 1 tsp of batter into each mini muffin well. Top each with 1 whole (or broken, if you prefer) pecan. I bake for 10 minutes, but you may need to experiment to find the exact right baking time (and amount of batter). The batter rises up and completely covers the pecan while it bakes, so itās like a little surprise inside when they take a bite. But you could leave this out if you donāt want to add nuts. Take out of the oven and use a thin, sharp knife around the edges of each blondie to loosen it from the sides. Let stand a few minutes, then use a dinner knife to carefully pop out each blondie. Eat a few warm, of course, but allow most to cool before serving or storing. Thank you. I have good luck using a plastic knife to loosen the edges. That way, I'm not damaging my metal baking tin.
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Post by snyder on May 30, 2024 1:33:13 GMT
How I make my mini blondies: Take out of the oven and use a thin, sharp knife around the edges of each blondie to loosen it from the sides. Let stand a few minutes, then use a dinner knife to carefully pop out each blondie. Eat a few warm, of course, but allow most to cool before serving or storing. I would cheat and buy the mini cupcake liners. lol
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 30, 2024 2:04:02 GMT
How I make my mini blondies: The Joy of Cooking, 1964 edition, p653 (original recipe) BUTTERSCOTCH BROWNIES Makes about 16 thin 2-1/4ā squares An all-time favorite, easily made. Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Melt in a saucepan: 1/4 cup butter Stir into it until dissolved: 1 cup brown sugar Cool these ingredients slightly. Beat in well: 1 egg, 1 tsp vanilla Sift, then measure: 1/2 cup all-purpose flour Resift it with: 1 tsp double-acting baking powder, 1/2 tsp salt Stir these ingredients into the butter mixture. Add: 1/2-1 cup finely chopped nuts or 3/4 cup grated coconut Chopped dates and figs may be substituted entirely or in part. Use a little of the flour over them. Pour the batter into a greased 9x9 pan. Bake for about 20-25 minutes. Cut into bars when cool. LUCYGāS BLONDIES (adapted from butterscotch brownies recipe, above) Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Butter the wells of one or more mini muffin pans. I use real butter, not spray. Makes around 36+ mini blondies, but it really depends on the size of your mini muffin pans. They vary. I double the recipe for a large tea party. Melt 1/4 cup butter in a large glass bowl in the microwave. Mix in the remaining ingredients by hand. 1 cup brown sugar, then allow to cool slightly. Beat in 1 egg and 1 tsp vanilla well. Stir together 1/2 cup AP flour, 1 tsp baking powder, and 1/2 tsp salt, then stir into the butter mixture. I havenāt tried it, but I donāt see why you couldnāt add mini chocolate chips to the recipe. Place 1 tsp of batter into each mini muffin well. Top each with 1 whole (or broken, if you prefer) pecan. I bake for 10 minutes, but you may need to experiment to find the exact right baking time (and amount of batter). The batter rises up and completely covers the pecan while it bakes, so itās like a little surprise inside when they take a bite. But you could leave this out if you donāt want to add nuts. Take out of the oven and use a thin, sharp knife around the edges of each blondie to loosen it from the sides. Let stand a few minutes, then use a dinner knife to carefully pop out each blondie. Eat a few warm, of course, but allow most to cool before serving or storing. Thank you. I have good luck using a plastic knife to loosen the edges. That way, I'm not damaging my metal baking tin. You could also cut strips of parchment and put them across the bottom and sides of each well after greasing the pans and use the parchment strips as a sling to help pop them out. I do that with my pecan tassies and while it seems like a hassle on the front end, I thank myself later because theyāre SO much easier to get out of the pans.
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Post by Basket1lady on May 30, 2024 2:51:35 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on May 30, 2024 20:39:45 GMT
Too funny; this popped up on my YouTube feed. I didnāt check to see if this is the same Americaās Test Kitchen recipe, or a newer one, but this is one of their testers making the blondies, and there are some interesting tidbits in the video. youtu.be/O0MWKZxyc44?si=nSlJaLdEiapC3zi1
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