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Post by katlady on May 28, 2024 2:59:54 GMT
Who would have thought that even with a ban on single-use plastic bags, plastic bag waste is still increasing. Apparently customers are using the reusable plastic bags as single-use and discarding them right away instead of using them 100+ times. I don't like the thick reusable plastic bags. If I get one, I do put in the recycle bin right away. So the bill is on Newsom's desk, and if signed, will go into effect on Jan 1, 2026. Stores will have to offer bags that are non-plastic or paper, for a fee of course. I don't mind the paper bags. I wish more stores offered them now. I couldn't find anything about take-out food, but I assume they will still be bagged in the thin single-use bags. www.yahoo.com/news/california-lawmakers-vote-ban-reusable-211045980.html
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Post by Lexica on May 28, 2024 3:13:21 GMT
I have a good sized stack of reusable plastic bags that I use every time I go to the store to do my own shopping. I have found at the Walmart near me that the checkers expect me to load the groceries into my own bags. They just stand and watch me. I always load some myself because I am picky about things like bread and eggs, but I expect them to load bags too. I find I have to tell them to use my bags, but to help me fill them. It is a little annoying to me that they act like it is my bag, so my job. I just sit in front of the TV and flatten and fold them back up after each shopping trip and plan to use them until they are unusable. It only takes a few minutes to fold them and it helps me feel better that I am doing something minor to help.
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Post by chaosisapony on May 28, 2024 4:07:48 GMT
Show of hands, people that are shocked by this? Anyone? Nope, me either. Saw this coming from a mile away. Make people pay (or give for free if they are on assistance) for a bag that is 10x thicker plastic and of course there will be more plastic waste. People that want to reuse bags do so, forcing a thicker plastic bag on customers was never going to be a viable solution.
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Post by seaexplore on May 28, 2024 4:11:48 GMT
Give me the old thin plastic bags. I hate the new thicker ones and have a huge stash of them from Target because they tell me to keep the bag and they’ll reverse the charge. I use the thin ones for cleaning the litter box. Yeah, I could use the thicker ones for the same.
I do have cloth bags that I use as often as I can. Use, put the groceries away, back to the zippered bag in the trunk or into the washer if they’re funky.
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Post by katlady on May 28, 2024 4:41:19 GMT
huge stash of them from Target because they tell me to keep the bag and they’ll reverse the charge. One time I bought something online for pickup. Just one item. I picked "no bag". I get there and the item is in one of those thick bags. I tried to give it back, but she wouldn't take it and she said they'll reverse the charge for the bag. I went home and put that bag in my recycle pile of plastic. I just don't like those thick bags. I think it is because I can't easily tie up the thick ones like I can the thin ones when I have trash or dog poop in them.
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 28, 2024 5:00:19 GMT
I don't usually use pick up - but was shocked when I did a Kroger pick up and they gave me 100 (of course exaggeration) of these thick bags - and I'm pretty sure they didn't charge me the 10c for a normal I'd put in 4-5 reusable bags.
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Post by katlady on May 28, 2024 5:15:03 GMT
People that want to reuse bags do so, forcing a thicker plastic bag on customers was never going to be a viable solution. Yes! Even after years of charging for plastic bags, I still see a lot of people in the grocery store buying reusable bags. One guy had a cart full of food, and he bought like 5 reusable bags. Some people just won't carry around their own bags.
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Post by AussieMeg on May 28, 2024 5:36:43 GMT
I only ever use canvas or chiller bags that I buy at the supermarket when I do my grocery shopping. I have eleventy gazillion of them, in my car and in the pantry. And every time they release a cute new design, I have to buy another one, then hide it from DSO so he doesn't ask why I have bought yet another damn shopping bag! I also carry a couple of fold up bags in my handbag if I go to the shopping mall. I can't remember the last time I used a plastic bag. I placed an on-line grocery order last month for the first time, and it was delivered in paper bags.
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Post by compeateropeator on May 28, 2024 10:15:04 GMT
I am surprised that California uses reusable plastic bags. Can you get them in a grocery store?
In my state if you do not bring your own bags to the grocery store and are purchasing them they are paper bags. I am not sure if merchandise type stores can use the heavier plastics when you purchase one from them or not? It seems like anytime/anywhere I have to get a bag from the establishment it is paper.
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Post by compeateropeator on May 28, 2024 10:25:05 GMT
I only ever use canvas or chiller bags that I buy at the supermarket when I do my grocery shopping. I have eleventy gazillion of them, in my car and in the pantry. And every time they release a cute new design, I have to buy another one, then hide it from DSO so he doesn't ask why I have bought yet another damn shopping bag! I also carry a couple of fold up bags in my handbag if I go to the shopping mall. I can't remember the last time I used a plastic bag. I placed an on-line grocery order last month for the first time, and it was delivered in paper bags. 😆😆 Yup, although forgetting them in my car when I go in and laziness is high on the list of causing me to decide to buy another. This reminds me of a fluff poll I was going to post a week or two ago and I wonder how the Peas fell into the average. I heard/read that the average number of reusable bags that a person (in the US) owns is like 5.3 (5 point something). I was thinking I bet I am easily in the 20 or 30 mark (if not more if all were collected and counted) between cloth, those canvasy plastic ones, cubes, insulated, small, large etc. Doesn’t five seem low?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 28, 2024 10:48:35 GMT
^^^^. yes, possession of 5 bags is very low!!
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Post by AussieMeg on May 28, 2024 10:49:05 GMT
I only ever use canvas or chiller bags that I buy at the supermarket when I do my grocery shopping. I have eleventy gazillion of them, in my car and in the pantry. And every time they release a cute new design, I have to buy another one, then hide it from DSO so he doesn't ask why I have bought yet another damn shopping bag! I also carry a couple of fold up bags in my handbag if I go to the shopping mall. I can't remember the last time I used a plastic bag. I placed an on-line grocery order last month for the first time, and it was delivered in paper bags. 😆😆 Yup, although forgetting them in my car when I go in and laziness is high on the list of causing me to decide to buy another. This reminds me of a fluff poll I was going to post a week or two ago and I wonder how the Peas fell into the average. I heard/read that the average number of reusable bags that a person (in the US) owns is like 5.3 (5 point something). I was thinking I bet I am easily in the 20 or 30 mark (if not more if all were collected and counted) between cloth, those canvasy plastic ones, cubes, insulated, small, large etc. Doesn’t five seem low? Five does seem very low! I use about 6-8 for a normal weekly shop. I have no idea how many I actually have. I keep about 10 in the boot (trunk) of my car, another 10 in the pantry, and countless others in the spare room. I would have to have at least 40, probably closer to 50 or even more.
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Post by melanell on May 28, 2024 10:58:52 GMT
It sounds like these "Reusable" bags are just normal grocery bags, but thicker---is that right? If that's the case, I can se why people aren't going out of their way to reuse them. I love the reusable bags sold by a regional store in our area, Wegmans. They are truly reusable bags. They keep their shape nicely and are a good size--tall enough for soda bottles or a box of cereal, and sturdy enough to hold a bunch of canned or jarred goods, heavy produce, etc. You can open them up like a paper bag and they stay open while you're loading/unloading them. They have a plastic coating so you can wash them out easily. And they last a decade, easily. Apparently I'm not the only person who loves them because I see people selling them on Ebay, Poshmark, etc., and for more than just the 99 cents each that Wegmans charges, of course. shop.wegmans.com/shop/categories/1154I can't find a way to link just the bag I mean, but it's the 99 cent ones that we use. I have a bunch of the very first one shown, plus a few older designs.
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Post by compeateropeator on May 28, 2024 11:07:09 GMT
It sounds like these "Reusable" bags are just normal grocery bags, but thicker---is that right? If that's the case, I can se why people aren't going out of their way to reuse them. I love the reusable bags sold by a regional store in our area, Wegmans. They are truly reusable bags. They keep their shape nicely and are a good size--tall enough for soda bottles or a box of cereal, and sturdy enough to hold a bunch of canned or jarred goods, heavy produce, etc. You can open them up like a paper bag and they stay open while you're loading/unloading them. They have a plastic coating so you can wash them out easily. And they last a decade, easily. Apparently I'm not the only person who loves them because I see people selling them on Ebay, Poshmark, etc., and for more than just the 99 cents each that Wegmans charges, of course. shop.wegmans.com/shop/categories/1154I can't find a way to link just the bag I mean, but it's the 99 cent ones that we use. I have a bunch of the very first one shown, plus a few older designs. All of our grocery stores sell those. I do have a bunch of them from various stores but they are not very big I like them, but the cubes are truly now my favorites for groceries. I do bring at least one or two of those plastic type of reusable bags or an insulated for meats and stuff that could be leaky.
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Post by smasonnc on May 28, 2024 12:36:06 GMT
I'm rabid about my reusable bags. In our state, it's illegal to ban plastic bags. I'll bag my own groceries, go back to the car for my bags, or carry items to my car in my hands to avoid using a disposable bag. Our non-profit is going to hand out re-usable bags to the people walking into Publix without bags. I've seen some of the most beautiful beaches in the world fouled with trash and it's only getting worse. It makes me crazy.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 28, 2024 12:50:33 GMT
It doesn’t surprise me at all. I have a huge stack of those non woven polyester fabric bags from Woot that should be in my car but they aren’t. I do use them for other things though. I keep a couple of the insulated bags from Costco in my trunk that we use every week. I would almost rather bag my own stuff at the store because it seems like when the cashiers do it they put like 1-2 things per bag and then I leave with 5 bags. Ugh, WHY? Just use a paper bag and put all ten of my things in one bag already! If given the choice, I will pick a paper bag 100% of the time so I can reuse it to hold my recycling.
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Post by breetheflea on May 28, 2024 13:30:10 GMT
I stopped using grocery pick-up because the plastic bags were taking over my house. They used way too many... It took about 25 trips to the recycle bin at the store (inconveniently located as far from the doors as possible) with a giant load to get rid of them.
I almost always remember to bring my own bags now because I don't want a garage full of the stupid things again.
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Post by monklady123 on May 28, 2024 13:47:38 GMT
I only ever use canvas or chiller bags that I buy at the supermarket when I do my grocery shopping. I have eleventy gazillion of them, in my car and in the pantry. And every time they release a cute new design, I have to buy another one, then hide it from DSO so he doesn't ask why I have bought yet another damn shopping bag! I also carry a couple of fold up bags in my handbag if I go to the shopping mall. I can't remember the last time I used a plastic bag. I placed an on-line grocery order last month for the first time, and it was delivered in paper bags. 😆😆 Yup, although forgetting them in my car when I go in and laziness is high on the list of causing me to decide to buy another. This reminds me of a fluff poll I was going to post a week or two ago and I wonder how the Peas fell into the average. I heard/read that the average number of reusable bags that a person (in the US) owns is like 5.3 (5 point something). I was thinking I bet I am easily in the 20 or 30 mark (if not more if all were collected and counted) between cloth, those canvasy plastic ones, cubes, insulated, small, large etc. Doesn’t five seem low? Yes, five seems low! lol. And I've even downsized my reusable bags. Back during the worst of covid we had several food donation points in my town and they were always asking for reusable bags for the giveaways. So I went through our entire stash and got rid of most of them. There were a lot. But I still have more than five. haha I have several cloth ones from Trader Joe's, several of the woven plasticy kind from stores that I like to advertise (the Bethany Beach bookstore, etc... small businesses like that), my Obama bag, my two Elephant and Piggie bags (love those), etc. Plus, I have a set (three) of the rectangular cube-like ones that open up with a flat bottom so they don't collapse. I use those for regular grocery runs, and I always use self-checkout so I can pack how I want. I heard about these bags here in this group and they are the best! I use the other floppy ones for places like Target or CVS.
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Post by hannahruth on May 28, 2024 14:52:32 GMT
I only ever use canvas or chiller bags that I buy at the supermarket when I do my grocery shopping. I have eleventy gazillion of them, in my car and in the pantry. And every time they release a cute new design, I have to buy another one, then hide it from DSO so he doesn't ask why I have bought yet another damn shopping bag! You and me both! Love some of the designs so have to have them.
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Post by epeanymous on May 28, 2024 15:35:34 GMT
I loved the thick plastic bags in SF. I would reuse them at the grocery, used them as garbage bags (my building had a trash chute and they were the perfect size), and for carrying wet items. I am surprised people throw them right out. They are useful!
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Post by sean&marysmommy on May 28, 2024 17:19:03 GMT
We don't use those thicker plastic reusable bags. I like the old, thinner ones for lining trash cans in our house- bathrooms, craft room, kids' rooms, etc., but the thicker ones don't fit right in our cans for some reason. They're hard to tie off as well. So they go right into the recycling bin when we get them.
It seems to be hit or miss, which bags the stores use. Food Lion still does the thin bags, but Walmart mostly does the thicker ones. We mostly seem to get paper bags from Target.
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on May 28, 2024 18:43:40 GMT
I am a huge fan of the reuseable bags from Trader Joes. I have so many it's ridiculous! I use them for lot of things like craft projects, an overnight bag (I'm classy, I know!) I am not a fan of those thick ones from Target and Walmart. Just last week I took a bunch of those to the recycler in Target. I hate it when I forget to take in a bag.
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Post by kimi on May 28, 2024 21:29:17 GMT
When I order on-line for in-store pickup at Walgreens or CVS, my items are always put in the thicker re-usable plastic bag. I'm charged 25 cents. But they attach a huge sticker on the side of the bag that is impossible to remove without destroying the bag. I'm not going to use that bag in public with that sticker attached (it shows my name and other info) so I cut off the sticker and 'recycle' the bag. Such a waste of 25 cents and a waste for the environment.
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Post by kimi on May 28, 2024 21:32:12 GMT
People that want to reuse bags do so, forcing a thicker plastic bag on customers was never going to be a viable solution. Yes! Even after years of charging for plastic bags, I still see a lot of people in the grocery store buying reusable bags. One guy had a cart full of food, and he bought like 5 reusable bags. Some people just won't carry around their own bags. In CA, if you are paying for food with public assistance (I don't know what the program is it's called -- it used to be 'food stamps'), you don't pay the re-usable bag fee. You get unlimited bags for free.
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Post by monklady123 on May 28, 2024 21:56:25 GMT
I am a huge fan of the reuseable bags from Trader Joes. I have so many it's ridiculous! I use them for lot of things like craft projects, an overnight bag (I'm classy, I know!) I am not a fan of those thick ones from Target and Walmart. Just last week I took a bunch of those to the recycler in Target. I hate it when I forget to take in a bag. I just push my cart out to my car with all my stuff loose in it. Then I bag/box it at the car. Like the Aldi or Costco model. lol. I keep a couple Costco boxes on the back seat for that purpose. When they start to get ragged I recycle them and get a couple more from Costco.
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Post by jayfab on May 28, 2024 22:17:59 GMT
I only ever use canvas or chiller bags that I buy at the supermarket when I do my grocery shopping. I have eleventy gazillion of them, in my car and in the pantry. And every time they release a cute new design, I have to buy another one, then hide it from DSO so he doesn't ask why I have bought yet another damn shopping bag! I also carry a couple of fold up bags in my handbag if I go to the shopping mall. I can't remember the last time I used a plastic bag. I placed an on-line grocery order last month for the first time, and it was delivered in paper bags. 😆😆 Yup, although forgetting them in my car when I go in and laziness is high on the list of causing me to decide to buy another. This reminds me of a fluff poll I was going to post a week or two ago and I wonder how the Peas fell into the average. I heard/read that the average number of reusable bags that a person (in the US) owns is like 5.3 (5 point something). I was thinking I bet I am easily in the 20 or 30 mark (if not more if all were collected and counted) between cloth, those canvasy plastic ones, cubes, insulated, small, large etc. Doesn’t five seem low? Oh, 5! I call BS I must have close to 50 of all sorts. But most are trader joes. I love those. I wish they would bring back one that I lost. I had two of these brownish TJ bags that were wider than tall. It was perfect for taking a crock pot or 9x13 covered dish somewhere. PERFECT. Well I left one in a buggy at Meijer and the other Kessel threw away when I left it to retrieve my money at home when I forgot it. Came back in like 10 minutes and they had no idea what happened to it or the groceries I had in it. Still ticked about it LOL.
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Post by Lexica on May 28, 2024 22:26:59 GMT
I'm rabid about my reusable bags. In our state, it's illegal to ban plastic bags. I'll bag my own groceries, go back to the car for my bags, or carry items to my car in my hands to avoid using a disposable bag. Our non-profit is going to hand out re-usable bags to the people walking into Publix without bags. I've seen some of the most beautiful beaches in the world fouled with trash and it's only getting worse. It makes me crazy. I like the idea of handing out bags to people entering the store without them. I do pretty well remembering to bring my bags into the store with me and have only had a few times where I got almost to the door and had to turn around to go get them. I was irritated with myself for having to buy more when I first moved up here because my myriad of bags were packed and in a pod. I do use a few at home for various purposes too. I love the giant IKEA bags for carrying my laundry rather than an unwieldy laundry bin. It is so easy to just toss my clean laundry into the open bag and carry it on my shoulder, leaving my hands free to assist getting up the couple of stairs in my laundry room. I am struggling with a very sore knee and need to assist myself getting up or down even a single step. And that is even with my knee brace on. I have even been using an IKEA bag to transfer things to bring into the house as I continue unpacking boxes. It is so much easier than dragging a box into the house, unpacking it, and carrying the flattened box back to the garage again. I have one specific bag that I use to carry the little clear trash bags of kitty litter out to the trash can. It is a bit bigger, has a very sturdy handle, and is plastic so that I can wash it easily. I use the Costco small trash can liners to scoop into, but there is no way I trust them enough to walk out through my house to the trash can with. It is just safer to use the big plastic coated bag each time. I did have to write on the bottom of that one because I have two more just like it and don’t want to accidentally put groceries in the kitty litter carrying bag, even though no litter has ever touched the insides of that bag, it is just the thought of it.😝
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Post by compeateropeator on May 28, 2024 22:41:52 GMT
Now I can’t remember where I heard or read it because I want to find out more. 😄 I don't remember the details ( or wasn’t really paying attention) but am curious on the details of the poll. I just googled it and only 12 states have single use plastic bag bans…so if they are including all states in the average that probably does water down the average.
But I think our greater than 20/50 is much more representative for people who use them a lot. That is my story and I am sticking to it. 😆😆
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Post by melanell on May 28, 2024 22:43:36 GMT
I am a huge fan of the reuseable bags from Trader Joes. I have so many it's ridiculous! I use them for lot of things like craft projects, an overnight bag (I'm classy, I know!) I am not a fan of those thick ones from Target and Walmart. Just last week I took a bunch of those to the recycler in Target. I hate it when I forget to take in a bag. Ooh, yeah, Trader Joes has good bags, too! We have a ton of reusable bags because we like to have at least 10 regular ones and 3-4 insulated ones in the car for the weekly shopping trip, *but*, I do also have a tendency to keep swiping them to use for things around the house. If you look in a closet around here, you're likely to see something stashed in a reusable shopping bag.
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Post by AussieMeg on May 28, 2024 22:56:38 GMT
Kessel threw away when I left it to retrieve my money at home when I forgot it. Came back in like 10 minutes and they had no idea what happened to it or the groceries I had in it. Still ticked about it LOL. The exact same thing happened to me! I did my grocery shopping then drove straight to my brother's house. When I got there, I realised that I was missing a bag, and it had some expensive things in there. I rang the supermarket immediately, but they could find no sign of the bag of groceries. I drove straight up there with my receipt, to replace what I had bought, and one of the workers said "Oh yeah, we saw the bag and put all the food back on the shelves." WTF?! It was no more than 10 minutes! When I asked where my bag was - the one that I had previously purchased - they said they had thrown it away. Again, WTF? It was a zip up cooler bag! Anyway, they let me go and get all the food I was missing, and gave me another bag. I'm still ticked about it too!
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