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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 6, 2024 14:13:05 GMT
You’ve likely heard about the concept of eating 30 plant points a week – a goal that focuses on variety rather than volume.
The idea is straightforward: A point is given for every ‘new’ plant you eat in a given week (well, more or less – we’ll get into that later). By including 30 different plant-based foods in your meals and snacks each week, we’re covering more bases when it comes to the broad spectrum of nutrients we need to keep our bodies, particularly our guts, healthy.
The theory emerged from research carried out as part of the American Gut Project, a crowd-sourced project involving more than 10,000 participants. Its goal is to better understand the gut microbiome in health and disease.
“They discovered that participants who ate 30 or more different types of plants per week had gut microbiomes that were the most diverse – and hence health promoting,” says Dr Shireen Kassam, professor, author and founder and director of Plant-Based Health Professionals UK.
That’s where the magic number 30 came from – this was the tipping point researchers found which made the most marked difference to participants’ health.
What counts as a plant point? Beneficial plants are generally categorised into six groups: wholegrains (like brown rice, oats, barley and quinoa) vegetables, fruit, legumes (think lentils, chickpeas and beans), nuts and seeds and herbs and spices. All of those will count towards your quota.
Yep, that means coffee and dark chocolate (with 70% cocoa solids or more) are on the list, as they’re technically derived from seeds. Tofu – made with soya – counts too.
The key here is variety. There are no prizes for eating the same plant twice, besides the obvious health-related ones, as Kassam points out: “Most beneficial foods have a dose effect, the more the better, within reason. But, you just can’t count it more than once in a week.”
And when we say these plants must be ‘different’, we don’t just mean in terms of species. Different colours of the same fruit or vegetable are each worth separate points – think orange and yellow peppers, and green and red apples.
This is due to the different chemicals found in different coloured plants,” explains dietitian Catherine Rabess, author of The 30 Plan.
“The function of the polyphenols (a particular group of compounds) can vary greatly dependent on the colour and type of a food.”And, the more variety of these hero compounds we get, the better.
“Best described as the bodyguards of the gut, polyphenols have antioxidative, anti-inflammatory and antimicrobial activities, which can improve our health. They can defend against harmful invaders as well as reduce inflammation and oxidative damage that can be linked to chronic disease.”
Most plants from the six groups count as one whole point, although some – herbs and spices, for instance – are each a quarter of a point, mainly due to the small amount we’re likely to eat of each.
What *doesn’t* count as a plant point? Plant points are all about whole and minimally processed foods. Generally, the more an ingredient is refined and altered, the more diminished its impact on our health. So, not all plant-derived foods will be worth a point.
“Anything that is not from a whole food does not count – so that’s anything that has not come naturally from the derivative (the source) and has gone through processing to get to the final product,” says Rabess. “Processing often reduces or eliminates the proven beneficial ingredient. That’s not to say it is not healthy, but it cannot count towards your plant points.”
For instance, white bread and pasta is made with the inner part of the wheat grain, which has been stripped of the fibre-rich bran and germ. Same goes for white rice.
However, brown pasta, rice and bread are examples of wholegrain foods, where the grain has been left intact, which is why they count towards your 30.
Fruit juice is another instance of processing that changes the make-up of an ingredient. It might count towards your five-a-day in some instances, but due to its lack of fibre, you can leave if off your plant point tally for the week.
How easy is it to eat 30 points? Hitting 30 different types of plants every week might sound difficult – but you’d be surprised. Given how broad the spectrum of foods that count is (not forgetting the array of colours that the same vegetable or fruit can come in), with a little bit of planning and practice, it’s a target many of us could see ourselves achieving.
You may find that your points rack up easily over the first couple of days but, if you batch cook or tend to keep the same meals on regular rotation, they might slow down dramatically after that. Keep momentum by bringing batch-cooked base dishes, like a lentil stew back to life in different ways with added ingredients, and always consider dishing up an extra side of veg with your meals.
Mixed nuts, seeds and dried fruits are great for snacking on as well as adding extra flavour and texture when sprinkled on vegetables, salads and breakfasts. They can easily give a nutritional boost to desserts too.
There are other easy wins for boosting the plant variety in your diet, like swapping in brown rice, pasta and bread for white every so often.
This needn’t get costly: buy pre-packaged products that feature a mix of colours of types of ingredients, like bags of frozen mixed sliced peppers or berry medleys, and tins of mixed bean salads (remember, it’s not just fresh produce that counts!) and you’ll soon hit your 30 points for the week.
Why is gut health so important? “Digestive enzymes help to break down carbs, protein and fats in your food into smaller molecules so they can be absorbed into your body. The gut also removes waste products while absorbing water, salts and electrolytes, and hosts the gut microbiome – it’s a big, bustling ecosystem that supports many bodily functions,” Rabess explains.
“Gut microbes also support immune function (70% of the immune system resides in the gut), hormone regulation, inflammation regulation and communication between the brain and the gut.”
When the gut is unhappy, you might well know about it, think bloating, constipation and stomach pains. However other symptoms of poor gut health might not be as obvious.
“The absence of gut symptoms doesn’t automatically mean you have good gut health,” says gut health scientist, dietitian, nutritionist and author Megan Rossi, aka The Gut Health Doctor. “This is because our gut health extends beyond digestive symptoms to impact areas like your mental health, heart health and such.
“However, unlike many other organs like our heart or kidneys, there is currently no single tool to assess gut health.”In short: look after your gut, and your gut will look after you.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 6, 2024 14:53:54 GMT
This is cool! I'll bet I've been getting super close. I do need to step it up a bit. But I'm thinking last week, I may have nailed it.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 6, 2024 14:58:52 GMT
I have been rather lazy lately and my body feels it. Need to get better at prep for a few days as well as colors.
We are watching my potassium still. Covid knocked it way down and it hasn't improved much.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 6, 2024 15:01:53 GMT
I have been rather lazy lately and my body feels it. Need to get better at prep for a few days as well as colors. I'm going to be honest with you, but I've just been dabbling. Like 3 vegan dinners a week. It is absolutely clear to me that I feel better after a whole food plant based meal. I really felt it deeply when I made chicken fettucine alfredo the other night. I made from scratch, even my pasta. But all that heavy cream and cheese and pasta, I just felt like I had to go right to bed after eating. I felt bloated and lethargic. This is good incentive for me.
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Post by Linda on Jun 6, 2024 15:33:02 GMT
I like this and need to start tracking and see where I'm at. We get a farm box delivered weekly with 8-9 different fruits and vegetables and I usually pick up a couple more fresh fruits while shopping plus we often have some leftovers from the previous box so I'm guessing we're easily at 15 a week just with that. I need to add in more beans/lentils and whole grains I think. I'm not quite sure how to count herbs/spices - I use a wide variety but not in large quantities. I wonder if there's a good (easy) way to track each week whether an app or a printable I can put on the fridge next to the menu? edit - spices/herbs are 1/4 point each so I guess that accounts for the small amounts and I found an app I'm going to try www.thirtyplants.app/
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Post by gar on Jun 6, 2024 15:34:44 GMT
I tried this a while ago. We’re not vegetarian so our variety is probably less than vegans/vegetarians generally. I didn’t find it difficult to do as such, but I did find that I had a fridge full of fruit/veg etc that having eaten once that week (so wouldn't count if I had again) I was ignoring in the quest to eat other, different things to add to my total.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 6, 2024 15:36:30 GMT
I'm not quite sure how to count herbs/spices - I use a wide variety but not in large quantities. I use a ton. I mean I have the herb garden now which is great. But I usually buy at least 3 a week of fresh herbs and then always garlic.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 6, 2024 15:47:23 GMT
I tried this a while ago. We’re not vegetarian so our variety is probably less than vegans/vegetarians generally. I didn’t find it difficult to do as such, but I did find that I had a fridge full of fruit/veg etc that having eaten once that week (so wouldn't count if I had again) I was ignoring in the quest to eat other, different things to add to my total. This is part of the issue too. Especially when you are only cooking for one (sometimes two) people. I usually have to eat recipes more than once because Jeremy is spotty on what he will eat. I don't want waste for sure.
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Post by breetheflea on Jun 6, 2024 15:51:19 GMT
I'm doing pretty good, I have been trying to eat healthier recently...
Since last Saturday: chickpeas (homemade hummus) bell pepper (yellow) onion cauliflower whole wheat bread strawberries blueberries a peach grapes banana apple mandarin orange/clementine lettuce chocolate (85% kind) baked potato napa cabbage zucchini carrots 5 snap peas (from my garden) coffee (it's on the list) almonds mixed nuts and maybe orzo (not sure if it counts as a whole grain or not)
of course, the second half of the week won't be as good because it will start to repeat. I think the only thing I know will count would be farro. I am going to a farmer's market today though.
ETA: all I found at the farmer's market (it's still early in the season here...) were strawberries, basil, and some kind of climbing bean plant that is supposed to attract hummingbirds. Man the people selling the stuff were friendly though!
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Post by Linda on Jun 6, 2024 15:56:16 GMT
I didn’t find it difficult to do as such, but I did find that I had a fridge full of fruit/veg etc that having eaten once that week (so wouldn't count if I had again) I was ignoring in the quest to eat other, different things to add to my total. I can see that being an issue - I find that I end up freezing some leftover vegetables and herbs for the following week if they won't last in the fridge.
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Post by Linda on Jun 6, 2024 16:05:26 GMT
breetheflea - good list...now I want to look back over the week and see what I've eaten so far. Starting on Saturday (which for me is grocery day/menu start day since the farm box arrives on Fridays) russet potatoes green onions cantaloupe strawberries green leaf lettuce beefsteak tomatoes watermelon kiwi carrots pomegranete ails yellow squash brussel sprouts green bell pepper roma tomatoes cubanelle pepper yellow onions banana garlic cilantro chocolate coffee and a bunch of dried spices/herbs including basil, oregano, thyme, rosemary, marjoram, chili powder, paprika, chives and I'm not sure what else. today should add green beans, fairytale eggplant, gala apples at least and tomorrow should add corn and black beans at a minimum
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 6, 2024 16:23:39 GMT
Here is my week since Friday:
Red leaf lettuce Iceberg lettuce Black beans Chickpeas Yellow bell pepper Green bell pepper Radishes Green onion Red onion Broccoli Cauliflower Cherry tomatoes Russet potatoes (I guess turning it into a has counts??) Yellow onion Asparagus Carrots (orange)
So 16 points. I did however have several of those more than once. And my herbs are dried. Not sure if that counts? That would be 1.50 points since they are .25 points per herb.
I can not have nuts due to anaphylaxis to all nuts. I miss cashews. Sigh
Need to add more color. A local farm sells purple and yellow cauliflower.
So how can I get 14 (13 if my herbs count) more points?
Watermelon Blackberries Raspberries Spinach Arugula Kidney beans Red potatoes Orange bell pepper
8 points, so need 5. Limited on fruits due to allergies (blueberry, strawberry, peach, apricot, pineapple, cherries, banana, plums, nectarines)
I could do rainbow carrots.
This will be a bit harder for me.
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Post by Linda on Jun 6, 2024 16:30:39 GMT
pantsonfire - some ideas - oats? rainbow carrots? do you eat whole grain cereal? dried fruit? drink coffee? dark chocolate? can you eat apples? other melons? lentils? barley? amaranth? quinoa?
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 6, 2024 17:32:04 GMT
pantsonfire - some ideas - oats? rainbow carrots? do you eat whole grain cereal? dried fruit? drink coffee? dark chocolate? can you eat apples? other melons? lentils? barley? amaranth? quinoa? We are a GF home due to Celiac and I am highly allergic to barley. I do drink coffee, but decaf and with milk so not sure if that counts. Allergic to chocolate 😭 No dried fruits as majority are done in a plant that handles nuts or have coconut oil. No cereal as that freshener makes my stomach hurt or is from a facility with nuts or gas corn, barley, etc (allergies). Allergic to honey dew. I'm the only one that can eat cantaloupe and it goes to waste so I don't buy it. No apples until I get new testing. I am now allergic to cherries and kiwi and apples fall under the latex allergy chart like kiwi, bananas, avocado, and cherries. 🙄 I have basmati rice as my stomach isn't a fan of brown rice. My allergies are quite limiting. 😞
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Post by Linda on Jun 6, 2024 17:39:23 GMT
My allergies are quite limiting allergies always are and I'm sorry that you're dealing with so many different ones. It sounds like your best bet for adding more might be beans (so many different types) if you can eat those and the various rainbow vegetables (Cauliflower, carrots, cabbage, peppers, potatoes, etc...) can you eat seeds? sunflower and pumpkin come to mind but I'm guessing there are probably others
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 6, 2024 17:42:33 GMT
My allergies are quite limiting allergies always are and I'm sorry that you're dealing with so many different ones. It sounds like your best bet for adding more might be beans (so many different types) if you can eat those and the various rainbow vegetables (Cauliflower, carrots, cabbage, peppers, potatoes, etc...) can you eat seeds? sunflower and pumpkin come to mind but I'm guessing there are probably others Yes love pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds. Oh forgot about cabbage! I get 3 varieties.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 6, 2024 18:32:26 GMT
This seems like an obtainable goal if you put your mind to it. Right now, I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, but I consume too many duplicates since I live alone. If I plan better, I can make full use of my freezer and dehydrator to avoid repeats and waste. I could not find the book for sale anywhere other than Amazon in the UK. Has anyone purchased it yet?
Does anyone know what constitutes enough of an item to constitute a point? Is there a volume requirement?
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Post by gar on Jun 6, 2024 19:57:22 GMT
This seems like an obtainable goal if you put your mind to it. Right now, I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, but I consume too many duplicates since I live alone. If I plan better, I can make full use of my freezer and dehydrator to avoid repeats and waste. I could not find the book for sale anywhere other than Amazon in the UK. Has anyone purchased it yet? Does anyone know what constitutes enough of an item to constitute a point? Is there a volume requirement? I don’t think the quantity seems to matter too much. A sprinkle of fresh herbs, a handful of nuts, a couple of squares of dark chocolate all seem to count. I’ll see if I can find precise articles.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 6, 2024 20:12:33 GMT
This seems like an obtainable goal if you put your mind to it. Right now, I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, but I consume too many duplicates since I live alone. If I plan better, I can make full use of my freezer and dehydrator to avoid repeats and waste. I could not find the book for sale anywhere other than Amazon in the UK. Has anyone purchased it yet? Does anyone know what constitutes enough of an item to constitute a point? Is there a volume requirement? I don’t think the quantity seems to matter too much. A sprinkle of fresh herbs, a handful of nuts, a couple of squares of dark chocolate all seem to count. I’ll see if I can find precise articles. Thank you, @gar. I am wondering for things like one of the soups that I am making today. It has multiple kinds of beans, tomatoes, vegetables, and a few spices. When I eat it, I usually add a spoon of sour cream, a squeeze of fresh lime, and some chopped cilantro. I was curious as to whether or not to count the cilantro. This is an easy soup that I make often and then freeze in single servings. I could go ahead and add the cilantro to the freezer portion since it typically won’t keep in the refrigerator for more than two days. It tastes better added fresh, but I have added it to the pot in the past and it was ok. But, I would estimate there wouldn’t be a large volume of the cilantro per bowl, which makes me wonder about counting it. It seems like it would be a good one for getting in 30 points per week since it is full of beans and various vegetables. If the amount isn’t set in stone, that would be so much easier for me. I don’t eat large amounts and often don’t even eat an entire apple at one sitting unless it is a very small one.
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Post by gar on Jun 6, 2024 20:29:16 GMT
I’m certain that would count Lexica😊
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Post by Lexica on Jun 6, 2024 20:43:57 GMT
I’m certain that would count Lexica 😊 Thank you!
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Post by melanell on Jun 7, 2024 1:05:54 GMT
DH & I tried this one week last winter and we found it was something we were pretty much already doing without realizing. (Maybe not 30 every week, but very close...25 a week without trying for sure.) Now, we did allow ourselves to count tea as 1 plant, BUT, we did not count various types of apples, for instance as more than one plant, and we didn't even think to include herbs. Once we ate one apple variety we were done letting apples count as a new "point". So basically all we found is that DH gets 30 different plants in even less than 7 days (I think by day 6 he only needed one more point), where as it did take me the full 7 days. Which makes sense, because DH is vegan while I am not.
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Post by melanell on Jun 7, 2024 1:22:02 GMT
Tea Grapes Apples Oranges Clementines Bananas Nectarines Strawberries Blueberries Pineapple Watermelon Papaya Chia Seeds Flax Seeds Tofu Black Beans Pinto Beans Chick Peas Baby Spinach Spring Mix Tomatoes Celery Carrots Cucumbers Zucchini Lentils Bell Peppers Red onions Broccoli Cauliflower So while we're not counting 30 plants anymore, I do jot down what I eat each day (I have digestive issues occasionally, so I found it's good to be able to go see what I ate on any day.) and this is what I've had so far. So this week I've reached 30 just from Sunday morning to Thursday night. So I guess I don't always take the full 7 days after all.
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Post by silverlining on Jun 7, 2024 3:25:33 GMT
Wow I counted up 47 from Sat. night to Thursday night. But it was a very unusual week because I had 4 restaurant meals in 6 Days! I ordered things that had a variety of vegetables like a garden omelet that came with a small fruit bowl. Because I'm cooking at home for only two people, I don't tend to buy so many different kinds of fruits and veggies in a week. I usually snack on roasted almonds, but this week we had a bag of mixed nuts with 5 different kinds of nuts.
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Post by monklady123 on Jun 7, 2024 12:17:08 GMT
It sounds interesting, and healthy, but I know I couldn't do it. It's only me and dh at home now so there is no way we could eat up all those different vegetables. Unless maybe if I was doing mostly frozen ones. We do make a lot of salads but we use the same bunch of romaine lettuce, and eat the same container of tomatoes, etc. Those things would go bad if I was focusing on eating something else since I couldn't count the lettuce twice.
Although, that's probably just an excuse because bottom line is that I hate to think about thinking up what to eat, shopping, then cooking, then putting it all away... ugh. lol. This would take too much planning for me. haha
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 7, 2024 13:59:28 GMT
It sounds interesting, and healthy, but I know I couldn't do it. It's only me and dh at home now so there is no way we could eat up all those different vegetables. Unless maybe if I was doing mostly frozen ones. We do make a lot of salads but we use the same bunch of romaine lettuce, and eat the same container of tomatoes, etc. Those things would go bad if I was focusing on eating something else since I couldn't count the lettuce twice. Although, that's probably just an excuse because bottom line is that I hate to think about thinking up what to eat, shopping, then cooking, then putting it all away... ugh. lol. This would take too much planning for me. haha What really helped me was looking at how I could incorporate various vegetables into other meals or as snacks. Cabbage is great in soup, in stir fry, sauteed, in salads, cooked with onions in a skillet, in tacos, in lettuce wraps, etc. So when I meal plan I do one meal with lots of vegetables then subsequent meals incorporate those vegetables. Way less food waste. I am now running to the store mid week to get more vegetables.
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Post by circusjohnson on Jun 7, 2024 14:00:39 GMT
I've been whole food plant based vegan for the last 5 years. I get about 30 a week most weeks. We eat salad almost everyday and thta is where i can really up the count of my plant points! I suggest reading the book Fiber Fueled by Dr Will Bulsiewicz! He talks all about plant points and how to get them!
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Post by monklady123 on Jun 7, 2024 15:14:21 GMT
It sounds interesting, and healthy, but I know I couldn't do it. It's only me and dh at home now so there is no way we could eat up all those different vegetables. Unless maybe if I was doing mostly frozen ones. We do make a lot of salads but we use the same bunch of romaine lettuce, and eat the same container of tomatoes, etc. Those things would go bad if I was focusing on eating something else since I couldn't count the lettuce twice. Although, that's probably just an excuse because bottom line is that I hate to think about thinking up what to eat, shopping, then cooking, then putting it all away... ugh. lol. This would take too much planning for me. haha What really helped me was looking at how I could incorporate various vegetables into other meals or as snacks. Cabbage is great in soup, in stir fry, sauteed, in salads, cooked with onions in a skillet, in tacos, in lettuce wraps, etc. So when I meal plan I do one meal with lots of vegetables then subsequent meals incorporate those vegetables. Way less food waste. I am now running to the store mid week to get more vegetables. I'm sure you're right... But, the key words in your reply are "when I meal plan". I never meal plan. As much as I do love my dh, my best times were when he traveled overseas for two or three weeks at a time. I never cooked. lol
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Post by Linda on Jun 7, 2024 16:30:06 GMT
I just did my menu planning for the week and if all goes as planned, I should easily get my 30+
smoothies are an easy way to add fruit - I know I have several different frozen fruit blends in the freezer so I can make a variety during the week
Salads are an easy way to add veggies and seeds
I'm starting with leftover vegetables from last week, the 8 different fruits and veggies from this week's farm box, I have plenty of frozen vegetables as well the frozen fruit, and I'll buy a salad mix and some fresh berries and possibly kiwi.
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