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Post by MichyM on Jun 7, 2024 18:06:45 GMT
...what, if anything, did you find helpful? I've been googling, and would love some additional direction from the peas. Also, how long did it last for you? Thanks!
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Post by heckofagal on Jun 7, 2024 18:17:37 GMT
I thought I had a frozen shoulder. It really hurt for several weeks until I finally went to the doctor. He said it was bursitis and gave me a magical shot that made the pain go away completely. That was probably 2 years ago. Every now and then I think its going to start acting up again, but I've not had to go back for another magical shot yet.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jun 7, 2024 18:35:47 GMT
I had it once in each shoulder. The first time, I didn’t know what it was and delayed going to the doctor. When I couldn’t put my coat on any longer, I went it. I did PT and that helped it loosen up quite a bit, but it took about 6 months to really resolve.
The second time wasn’t as bad. I did my PT home exercises and it was better after a few months. The two that I remember is to bend down over a ledge and letting it hang, then swiveling it around. The other was wall crawls with my hand up the wall as high as I could, then holding it for a stretch.
If the co-pays for your insurance are high, go at least once to get the exercises specific to your issue. But I really think that the manipulations from the PT were extremely helpful. I went twice a week, but Tricare covered them fully.
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Post by cme37 on Jun 7, 2024 18:45:51 GMT
I had frozen shoulder. It took them forever to figure out that was it. They sent me to PT for a couple of months and it didn't help, so they finally gave me the shot. Fixed it right up and haven't had any problems since.
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Post by KikiPea on Jun 7, 2024 18:46:08 GMT
I have a friend that had it. It took her 2 years of PT for it to get better. I still don’t think it’s 100%, but much, much better.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 7, 2024 19:07:02 GMT
I had it in both shoulders at the same time. It took a few months of intensive PT to get me back to functioning. After I reached that point I began doing Pilates 2-3 times a week. That is what gave me back the rest of the flexibility I had lost. Good luck with getting it sorted out!
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Post by lavawalker1 on Jun 7, 2024 19:25:44 GMT
A correctly placed corticosteroid injection given by an orthopedic nurse. I was having a hard time doing the exercises prescribed to me by PT until I got the injection. I would say by about 4 months I was pretty close to having my full range of motion back.
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Post by FurryP on Jun 7, 2024 19:26:40 GMT
I thought I had a frozen shoulder. It really hurt for several weeks until I finally went to the doctor. He said it was bursitis and gave me a magical shot that made the pain go away completely. That was probably 2 years ago. Every now and then I think its going to start acting up again, but I've not had to go back for another magical shot yet. Oh wow. Maybe I have misdiagnosed myself also. I should mention this next time I visit my doctor.
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Post by carhoch on Jun 7, 2024 19:31:01 GMT
The cortisone shot didn’t work then I went to PT for 10 sessions, the day of my last appointment I woke up mostly unfrozen. It was 6-7 years ago I am still ok .
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Post by piebaker on Jun 7, 2024 19:35:47 GMT
I'm sorry you are having shoulder problems, MichyM . Feel better soon. My experience lasted about 10 months and was very similar to Basket1lady. My shoulder wasn't totally locked up and it wasn't rotator cuff. I had physical therapy, cortisone shots,the arm machines at the gym, home exercises and a portable traction-pulley device set on my spare room door. I used front closing bras, needed help putting on my heavy winter coat, and rested my elbow/shoulder on a cushion when driving. I used a heating pad or ice pack and a contoured neck pillow to sleep. I tried NSAIDs but had stomach problems. It was trial and error.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jun 7, 2024 20:30:45 GMT
I had it only once and a steroid shot gave instant relief.
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Post by flanz on Jun 7, 2024 20:32:51 GMT
No experience, but I'm really sorry you're dealing with this!! ((( hugs )))
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Post by rst on Jun 7, 2024 21:01:52 GMT
My shoulder was frozen for a full year, and during the freeze state, physical therapy was marginally helpful. Heat helped feel better. After a year, and after 2 cortisone shots and oral meds, I was able to get some good results with physical therapy. I also did some work with an alternative practitioner in Ballard who focused on manipulating fascia, and honestly, the most improvement I experienced came from work with her. It was quite painful, and entirely passive on my part-- she was the one doing the hard work of manipulating the joint and doing deep tissue massage. This was probably 10+ years ago so they may have moved or not even be there anymore, but it was called Center for Structural Medicine, and while they didn't take insurance, I could use my HAS funds.
Best wishes, frozen shoulder is a misery, but you can expect to get significant improvement.
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Post by mom on Jun 7, 2024 21:05:59 GMT
Interesting that this question is being asked. I wonder if that is what's going on with my shoulder? I am in constant pain and it hurts to raise my arm, scratch my back, sleeping on my side is impossible and doing things that involve me raising my arm over my head. I went to the Chiro, thinking it could be nerve pain and he said no and sent me to my family dr. He did X-rays earlier in the week and they didn't show anything, so now I am getting an MRI later this month. I was assuming it would be rotator cuff, but maybe froze shoulder is an option. I shall ask my dr. MichyM I hope you get to feeling better and can get to the root cause of whats going on.
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Post by MichyM on Jun 7, 2024 21:51:03 GMT
Thank you so much girls, for both sharing you experiences and for the get-better wishes. So appreciated! I'm a big believer in PT, having been many times over the years for my back & neck <----- both are chronic injuries resulting from a car accident 35 years ago, and after foot surgery a few years ago. That said, it's good to know that some of you have had some success with other treatments too.
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Post by MichyM on Jun 7, 2024 21:56:57 GMT
My shoulder was frozen for a full year, and during the freeze state, physical therapy was marginally helpful. Heat helped feel better. After a year, and after 2 cortisone shots and oral meds, I was able to get some good results with physical therapy. I also did some work with an alternative practitioner in Ballard who focused on manipulating fascia, and honestly, the most improvement I experienced came from work with her. It was quite painful, and entirely passive on my part-- she was the one doing the hard work of manipulating the joint and doing deep tissue massage. This was probably 10+ years ago so they may have moved or not even be there anymore, but it was called Center for Structural Medicine, and while they didn't take insurance, I could use my HAS funds. Best wishes, frozen shoulder is a misery, but you can expect to get significant improvement. Thanks for sharing your experience. I just googled, and unfortunately it appears Center for Structural Medicine is no longer around :/
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Post by moretimeplease on Jun 7, 2024 22:00:16 GMT
I’m in the boat of “PT wasn’t helping and a cortisone shot at an orthopedic office helped almost immediately”. The ortho told me I had (have?) an impingement and the inflammation is what was causing the pain.
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Post by rst on Jun 7, 2024 22:42:52 GMT
unfortunately it appears Center for Structural Medicine is no longer around :/ @michy -- the location looks like it is an IRG Physical Therapy now. I have no idea if any of the therapists were retained when ownership changed. They had some unique offerings and talked more about "energy medicine" than traditional PT. However, myofascial release is a mainstream practice and it's what made all the difference for me-- after the freeze thawed, which just took time.
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Post by FrozenPea on Jun 7, 2024 22:58:24 GMT
According to menopause specialist, like Dr Mary Claire Haver, it can be caused by low estrogen, which is why it is common among menopausal females. www.facebook.com/reel/379544471452768/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6vI often get severe shoulder pain but I have Rheumatoid Arthritis as well so the cause is difficult to pinpoint. When it happens to me I take prednisone as rx by my dr. My dr has just started me on estradiol, progesterone and testosterone. I have no estrogen at all & see testosterone. I am hoping it will help my shoulder pain as well. Just something to think about.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 7, 2024 23:09:25 GMT
I wish the stupid search function worked on this board, so I could copy what I have written in the past on similar threads. I have forgotten the details.
I had frozen shoulder in my left shoulder that lasted well over a year, then as soon as that got better, I got it in my right shoulder. That only lasted about 6 months, but was more debilitating because I am right handed. There were times that I had to sleep in my clothes because I couldn't get undressed.
I didn't have hydrodilatation, and I was very slack about doing the exercises from a physiotherapist. I'm sure I would have healed a lot quicker if I'd done the exercises more diligently.
Regarding the cortisone injections - my dad had it done and said it hurt like hell but worked (for a while). My BFF had it done and said it didn't hurt, but it also didn't work for her.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 7, 2024 23:17:01 GMT
Interesting that this question is being asked. I wonder if that is what's going on with my shoulder? I am in constant pain and it hurts to raise my arm, scratch my back, sleeping on my side is impossible and doing things that involve me raising my arm over my head. I went to the Chiro, thinking it could be nerve pain and he said no and sent me to my family dr. He did X-rays earlier in the week and they didn't show anything, so now I am getting an MRI later this month. I was assuming it would be rotator cuff, but maybe froze shoulder is an option. I shall ask my dr. I forgot to mention, I had X-rays and ultrasounds on my shoulders. They told me that X-rays, ultrasounds, and MRIs etc don't pick up frozen shoulder, but they do rule out (or in) other issues. On one of my shoulders I also had bursitis and a small meniscal tear. They were confident that I also had frozen shoulder due to the particular lack of range of motion that I was experiencing.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 8, 2024 0:49:14 GMT
Physical therapy was what helped me but to get to the point I could even do physical therapy I had to have the shot. Because of the location of my tear that was causing frozen shoulder it wasn't just the general stick it in the shoulder cortisone shot. It was one that they had to sedate me. They used something to locate where they were shooting it.
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Post by TXMary on Jun 8, 2024 0:51:30 GMT
I had frozen shoulder after my mastectomy. My oncologist gave me some exercises to help it. In hindsight, I should have discussed it with my regular doctor. It did eventually get better but it was 8 months to a year before it did. I hope you get some relief because it was some of the worst pain I have ever had. It was horrible.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Jun 8, 2024 2:54:00 GMT
I just had major shoulder surgery on Feb. 23 and am in physical therapy now. Some of the exercises they have me doing are to prevent frozen shoulder (a fairly common complication of shoulder surgery). I've been told shoulder surgery and shoulder rehab are amongst the longest in time to heal. I'm fully expecting a year or more. I think any joint takes a long time to heal - I'm still healing from my knee replacement two years ago.
Good luck. I can empathize with how much shoulder pain hurts!
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Post by lavawalker1 on Jun 8, 2024 4:26:47 GMT
Interesting that this question is being asked. I wonder if that is what's going on with my shoulder? I am in constant pain and it hurts to raise my arm, scratch my back, sleeping on my side is impossible and doing things that involve me raising my arm over my head. I went to the Chiro, thinking it could be nerve pain and he said no and sent me to my family dr. He did X-rays earlier in the week and they didn't show anything, so now I am getting an MRI later this month. I was assuming it would be rotator cuff, but maybe froze shoulder is an option. I shall ask my dr. MichyM I hope you get to feeling better and can get to the root cause of whats going on. Sure sounds like it to me - what you describe were pretty much my symptoms. My left arm was pretty much useless. I had to use my right arm to help lift it if needed!
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Post by gar on Jun 8, 2024 8:52:08 GMT
Frozen shoulder is common in menopausal women because low oestrogen affects joint health. It might be worth looking at that angle.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jun 8, 2024 9:54:54 GMT
I am just now getting my range of motion back after a full year of very reduced movement and tons of pain. Did I say a lot of pain?
I had never heard of this before I was diagnosed with it. And I was shocked when the dr told me I initially had to just wait for it to thaw before I could do PT. Fortunately, it was my left side, but things like grabbing the seat belt and plugging it in were very difficult.
And I literally had to ask my sister, or daughters or others to help me out of blouses or dresses.
Sleeping was a nightmare, it felt like there was no painless position.
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Post by gar on Jun 8, 2024 10:09:57 GMT
Why do we get ‘frozen’ shoulders but not frozen ankles or wrists. I’m wondering why pain and restricted movement in the shoulder joint is treated/diagnosed differently?
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Post by MichyM on Jun 8, 2024 14:40:11 GMT
I wish the stupid search function worked on this board, so I could copy what I have written in the past on similar threads. I have forgotten the details. I had frozen shoulder in my left shoulder that lasted well over a year, then as soon as that got better, I got it in my right shoulder. That only lasted about 6 months, but was more debilitating because I am right handed. There were times that I had to sleep in my clothes because I couldn't get undressed. I didn't have hydrodilatation, and I was very slack about doing the exercises from a physiotherapist. I'm sure I would have healed a lot quicker if I'd done the exercises more diligently. Regarding the cortisone injections - my dad had it done and said it hurt like hell but worked (for a while). My BFF had it done and said it didn't hurt, but it also didn't work for her. Thank you. I was able to search and read a thread from 2022 and a second one from 2020. Sounds like a lot of us have had to deal with it.
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Post by flanz on Jun 8, 2024 14:45:42 GMT
Is this on your dominant side, Lauren? Is anything you've tried helping at all?
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