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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 15, 2024 12:05:57 GMT
I just thought this was a beautiful article I read this morning and I wanted to share it here. I am *only* going to be 49 next month and my parents are still living and thriving. So I know that like the author, I am in a different place than some of you and while I thought his perspective here totally encompassed my feelings on my own aging, it may not be the consensus of those significantly older than I am. The article did generate some interesting letters to the editor. But alas, I think it's worth sharing. The Beauty of Embracing AgingCHARLES M. BLOW
As Evelyn Couch said to Ninny Threadgoode in Fannie Flagg’s “Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe”: “I’m too young to be old and too old to be young. I just don’t fit anywhere.”
I think about this line often, this feeling of being out of place, particularly in a culture that obsessively glorifies youth and teaches us to view aging as an enemy.
No one really tells us how we’re supposed to age, how much fighting against it and how much acceptance of it is the right balance. No one tells us how we’re supposed to feel when the body grows softer and the hair grayer, how we’re supposed to consider the creping of the skin or the wrinkles on the face that make our smiles feel unfortunate.
The poet Dylan Thomas told us we should “rage, rage against the dying of the light,” that “old age should burn and rave at close of day.” He died, sadly, before turning 40.
For those of us well past that mark, rage feels futile, like a misallocation of energy. There is, after all, a beauty in aging. And aging is about more than how we look and feel in our bodies. It’s also about how the world around us plows ahead and pulls us along.
I remember a call, a few years ago, from a longtime friend who said it looked as if her father was about to pass away. I remember meeting her, along with another friend, at her father’s elder care facility so she wouldn’t have to be alone, and seeing the way her tears fell on his face as she stroked his cheeks and cooed his name; the way she collapsed in the hallway on our way out, screaming, not knowing if that night would be his last.
He survived, and has survived several near-death experiences since, but I saw my friend’s struggle with her father’s health difficulties as a precursor to what might one day be my struggle with my parents’ aging and health challenges. And it was.
Soon after that harrowing night at the elder care facility, my mother, who lives alone, suffered a stroke. Luckily, one of my brothers was having breakfast with her that morning and, noticing that her speech was becoming slurred, rushed her to the emergency room.
On the flight to Louisiana, I tried in vain to remain calm, not knowing what condition she would be in when I arrived, not knowing the damage the stroke had done. When I finally laid eyes on her, it was confirmed for me how fortunate we were that my brother had been alert and acted quickly. My mother would fully recover, but the image of her in that hospital bed — diminished from the commanding, invincible image of her that had been burned into my mind — shook me and has remained with me.
In that moment, I was reminded that my mother was in the final chapter of her life, and that I was moving into a new phase of mine.
That is one of the profound, emotional parts of aging: assuming a new familial role. Recognizing that my brothers and I were graduating from being the uncles to being the elders.
And that shifting family dynamic exerts itself on both ends, from above and below. This year, my older son turned 30. There’s no way to continue to consider yourself young when you have a child that age. He isn’t a father yet, but it has dawned on me that by the time I was his age, I had three children and my marriage was coming to an end. In fact, by the time I was his age, all of my mother’s grandchildren had been born.
No matter how young you may look or feel, time refuses to rest. It forges on. I’m now right around the age my parents were when I first considered them old.
I’m not sure when the world will consider me old — maybe it already does — but I do know that I’m no longer afraid of it. I welcome it. And I understand that the best parts of many books are their final chapters.
The actress Jenifer Lewis, appearing on the nationally syndicated radio show “The Breakfast Club,” once remarked: “I’m 61. I got about 30 more summers left.” Since hearing those words, I’ve thought of my own life in that way, in terms of how many summers I might have left. How many more times will I see the leaves sprout and the flowers bloom? How many more times will I spend a day by the pool or enjoy an ice cream on a hot day?
I don’t consider these questions because I’m worried, but because I want to remind myself to relish. Relish every summer day. Stretch them. Fill them with memories. Smile and laugh more. Gather with friends and visit family. Put my feet in the water. Grow things and grill things. I make my summers count by making them beautiful.
I have no intention of raging against my aging. I intend to embrace it, to embrace the muscle aches and the crow’s feet as the price of growing in wisdom and grace; to understand that age is not my body forsaking me but my life rewarding me.
Aging, as I see it, is a gift, and I will receive it with gratitude.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 15, 2024 12:16:55 GMT
This is interesting as I was talking to my mom last night about not having grandparents. She also never knew her grandparents. I have a strong family history of dying young: ironically we all look way younger than our age. My mom is almost 80 and looks at least -10 years younger. My daughter hates it when they ask her age in the exit row - you need to be 13 and she’s 22. It just hits different when most people you know died young.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 15, 2024 12:22:54 GMT
This is interesting as I was talking to my mom last night about not having grandparents. She also never knew her grandparents. I have a strong family history of dying young: ironically we all look way younger than our age. My mom is almost 80 and looks at least -10 years younger. My daughter hates it when they ask her age in the exit row - you need to be 13 and she’s 22. It just hits different when most people you know died young. Likewise I have a friend whose mother has lived now into her 90s. She is dying a little inside every time someone around her passes away. And there is almost no one left in her peer group anymore. It is sad seeing that kind of grief.
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Post by KelleeM on Jun 15, 2024 13:04:04 GMT
This is timely for me. Thanks for posting it.
I spent yesterday with a friend I’ve known for 20 years. She’s 9 years younger than me and has some serious mobility problems…she’s 52. My oldest brother, who turned 71 in March and has dementia, is moving into a care facility. My dad lived until 90 and always said that getting old isn’t for the faint of heart.
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Post by pilcas on Jun 15, 2024 13:23:17 GMT
I think at 60 you can embrace aging. I don’t have a problem with wrinkles and other signs of lost youth. As time goes by and you start dealing with debilitating illness that can last for years and years the embracing becomes a little harder. My mother was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s at least 15 yrs ago and it has been an incredibly painful process for her and for us. Not much to embrace there.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 15, 2024 13:32:05 GMT
For me I see it as a gift. And this is because ds was on deaths door step twice. He was also not supposed to live past 5 and they were for certain that he would not see age 10.
So every birthday we say Plus One because we got another year around the sun with him.
I embrace his changes and those of dd. My grey hairs and wrinkles. Those of dh. Because it means we are living. And we do. We get to spend time as a family.
And my parents are still quite active. And I know that will change some day and it will get hard. But that with that comes peace for them. And a long life lived. And memories.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 15, 2024 13:44:13 GMT
I think at 60 you can embrace aging. I don’t have a problem with wrinkles and other signs of lost youth. As time goes by and you start dealing with debilitating illness that can last for years and years the embracing becomes a little harder. My mother was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s at least 15 yrs ago and it has been an incredibly painful process for her and for us. Not much to embrace there. Yes I can imagine how difficult it would be when someone's body outlives their mind. Quite frankly I know this is a risk for me too as I age. Decades of being on antipsychotic meds increase my risk of memory related illness and I just cross my fingers so hard that my family does not have to deal with that.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 15, 2024 13:45:23 GMT
pantsonfire I think that your situation with your son shines a new light on it. I have felt that too since the first time Esther attempted suicide and now it is especially poignant since she has passed. ❤️
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Post by Linda on Jun 15, 2024 13:55:52 GMT
In one sense I'm embracing aging - I'm greying naturally, I'm not worried about wrinkles, and so on.
In another sense, my mum dying really made me aware of my own mortality. I'm almost 54 -my dad died at 64 and my mum at 84...I'm hoping for another 30 years like my mum but healthwise? I'm more like dad so I'm conscious that when he was my age, he only had 10 years left. So I'm trying to both get a grip on health issues to give myself a better chance at longevity and trying to make the best of the coming years in case there are less of them than I want.
DH (54) and I are the older generation now. All of my siblings are alive but only 2 of his 6 siblings are. His dad was 64/5 when he died and his mum was 81. His siblings died at 52, 54, 58, and 63. I'm encouraging him to take care of his health and hoping he takes after his mum and grandmum (she died in 2020 at 104). But mortality is looking both of us in the face. He has said several times that he's not sure he'll get to retire...I thought at first he meant, he didn't think he would be able to afford to retire but I think he's conscious of the fact that his siblings didn't live long enough to retire.
Every day is a gift...
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 15, 2024 14:10:32 GMT
I don't mind aging in my physical appearance at all. I do worry about my body falling apart and not being independent. I also worry about my mind going but my body functioning. I also worry about financially getting older.
There are so many facets to aging.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 15, 2024 14:11:40 GMT
I completely share your sentiments Linda. I realize I'm fortunate my parents are in the condition they are in. I don't fret things like wrinkles or gray hair either. But I'm trying to take better care of myself too because I want to be healthier.
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Post by lindas on Jun 15, 2024 14:18:49 GMT
Getting old doesn’t bother me, it used to but no longer.
My dad passed away in December, he was 95. Until covid hit he played golf and worked part-time at a golf club. It was during the lockdown period that he really started showing his age since he couldn’t get out and do all the things he enjoyed.
As long as my health stays good I intend to remain active and enjoy every day that comes along.
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Post by peano on Jun 15, 2024 14:44:35 GMT
Timely post for me as I turned 65 this year. I barely worked outside the home and have been a stay-at-home mom until DS left home for good two years ago. I'm starting to see myself as retired and have been following the "what to do after retirement thread" with interest. I'm going through a phase where I'm not obsessing (or at least to the extent I used to) about food, weight, carbs, fasting. I'm putting more "forbidden" foods in my diet like, bread and pasta and fruit. I have a mild gluten sensitivity, but I can tolerate it in small doses. I'm listening to my body and eating what it tells me it wants, which lately has been protein, protein, protein! I'm 20 pounds above where I want to be but honestly: it's OK. I accept this as just where I am and I don't know where I'll be when I come out on the other side of it. DH tells me I look 15 years younger than my age; I still color my hair, but this summer I'm all about the baseball cap. I don't feel like doing my hair every day, I don't feel like penciling in my brows or putting on the minimal amount of makeup I normally wear. I just want to wash my face, get dressed and go. I do still care about how I dress, mainly because I like to look put together and style is a way of expressing my creativity. I let doctors tell me how fragile my spine is last year, bought what they told me, and this launched me into a pretty severe depression over the winter. I've been a daily year-round walker for at least 25 years and stopped doing it regularly last winter. Which snowballed into my depression. At some point, I mentally told the doctors to go F themselves and got back out there. I live with chronic pain, but it's not significantly worse than last year. So I'm back at it, with a makeshift staff from a branch I found on the ground--maybe it's just psychological, but I find it very helpful on inclines, which are the most painful for me. I started a different route which has two benches for me to stop, sit, and decrease the spasms in my nerves. I am not obsessed any more about the time/distance I walk; I just try to do the best I can. My father gave me a scare last month. He's 88, on oxygen, and was hospitalized for a week with Covid and pneumonia. I'm so grateful that he is still mentally sharp--his aging challenges are physical. Trying hard not to feel irritated with him that he won't do any more Covid vaccines, as he's a daily Fox Kool-aid drinker. I am thinking ahead to the days where my mobility might be reduced even more than it is now, and thinking about what activities I want to include in my day: collage and crafty stuff, taking up knitting again, being a more consistent reader. I've thinking about the main dopamine sources in my life: dogs and music and how a daily dose of each gives me such joy and pleasure in life. I'm very drifty these days, and my lack of focus and energy is making me anxious, so I try telling myself I'm just going through a transition and I'm where I need to be to absorb and synthesize it. Thanks for posting this jeremysgirl. Very timely topic for me. Interested in hearing what others have to say.
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Post by karenlou on Jun 15, 2024 15:11:32 GMT
Thanks for posting this, jeremysgirl.....It came at a time when I am having a hard time dealing with a Big Birthday coming up. I don't feel my age...that being said what does age feel like??? I am still very active walking between 3-4 miles several days a week, and biking usually over 10 miles at a time. Anticipating my trip to France in August for a biking expedition. I do have some aches that are new...my back aches after a particularly busy shift at the hospital ( I still work per diem as I love my job!!).....other than that I am healthy. I did stop coloring my hair, during covid and I am embracing the white, silver or grey...whatever you call it... I think it is just the number thing...and I like the thought of 20 more summers.....as long as I can enjoy them😊
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Post by peabay on Jun 15, 2024 15:19:30 GMT
My best high school friend died last August from ovarian cancer. Nothing is guaranteed, nothing is a given. I now treat every day and every birthday as a gift. I'm growing old the way I want to grow old - I still like my blonde hair, so I still highlight it. I don't have any grey, it's just turning a kind of dull light brown.
I plan to continue working for as long as I can - not because I have to; I don't. I just really like to stay busy and I work in an elementary school and I adore the kids. And I feel like it keeps me young at heart.
I truly believe age is just a number.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 15, 2024 15:42:47 GMT
This is really timely. Turning 50 was easy for me. It felt earned and not like a force of nature. Turning 60 was difficult. I didn't have a good start w/my health. I know that I have to work hard to maintain quality of life as well as quantity. So, my thoughts range from I'm getting old to I have to enjoy every moment that I can, because I don't have 50 more years to learn to do so. Now I ask myself why I didn't do the work of enjoying my life more when I was younger?
I have so many blessings in my life and gratitude comes first. However, that doesn't mean that I don't deal w/some of the same issues that I've had my entire life like self worth and ability to put myself first sometimes. Though, in my 60's I am not as concerned w/what other think about me. I've more than paid my dues.
Aging w/chronic disease is different. It adds a layer of challenge that healthy people do not have and it sucks.
Still, I'm going to make the most of my days and hope that I can have many more summers w/my loved ones.
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Post by quinlove on Jun 15, 2024 15:45:23 GMT
I plan to continue working for as long as I can - not because I have to; I don't. I just really like to stay busy and I work in an elementary school and I adore the kids. And I feel like it keeps me young at heart. I truly believe age is just a number. I have had this working conversation with some of my friends a hundred times. I am in my 70s and they are in the 80s. That 10 year difference is almost another generation. Their thought process. Money aside, working is almost always a good thing. So many pluses to it. They see it as a negative. And, they are all bored to pieces. As to the aging process, I have always maintained the same way that I feel and think inside myself. Nothing has really changed, ever, about the way I feel / think. Outside factors have changed, many times, but me inside myself, I have always remained the same. Core thinking wise.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 15, 2024 15:50:48 GMT
I hate getting old, hate it. I had a big bday this yr. 60. Hate it. Like your quote in the OP. It's a hard time to fit in. My parents are still alive, in their 80s, and both have had big medical scares these last few yrs. I know it's only a matter of time, but it's still hard to accept. very hard. Life will never be the same. My dh and I were in a major car accident in dec, and it was a holy shit moment. we should be dead. We.should.be.dead. And everything would have changed for my family in the literal blink of an eye. I still work full time. probably have 4-5 more yrs of working before I can retire. I would like to retire earlier, but not sure we can swing it financially, mainly with medical insurance. There is still so much I would like to do, before I get older and cant. I would like to travel to Europe. but can I? will I? IDK. Thanks for the great thread!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 15, 2024 21:15:37 GMT
peano good on your for staying active even though it's hard. It sounds like it is helping more than it is hurting. ❤️ And yes, having activities that you find enriching is wonderful. I can imagine that would make a retired person's life so much fuller.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 16, 2024 3:24:05 GMT
I hate getting old, hate it. I had a big bday this yr. 60. Hate it. Like your quote in the OP. It's a hard time to fit in. My parents are still alive, in their 80s, and both have had big medical scares these last few yrs. I know it's only a matter of time, but it's still hard to accept. very hard. Life will never be the same. My dh and I were in a major car accident in dec, and it was a holy shit moment. we should be dead. We.should.be.dead. And everything would have changed for my family in the literal blink of an eye. I still work full time. probably have 4-5 more yrs of working before I can retire. I would like to retire earlier, but not sure we can swing it financially, mainly with medical insurance. There is still so much I would like to do, before I get older and cant. I would like to travel to Europe. but can I? will I? IDK. Thanks for the great thread! Thank goodness you are here to tell the tale. The level of trauma from an accident like that is enormous. Dh retired a bit early and our biggest expense is health insurance. I need the best insurance and we pay for the privilege. I hope you will find a way to get to Europe. Doing things that you truly dream about are essential. I can't spend your money for you, but I do hope that you find a way to go on your dream vacation.
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Post by Zee on Jun 16, 2024 4:19:47 GMT
Frankly I find nothing beautiful about aging, at all. Other than being largely free of sexual harassment by young men. I also think that young men are less likely to harass girls now than in my day back in the 90s and 00s.
I like where I am mentally but it's all downhill from here physically. Mentally, it's a crapshoot. I highly hope I can see the end coming before dementia. I try to stay fit and active and hope to be wiping my own ass until the day I die.
I will hire someone to tip my wheelchair over the edge of the Grand Canyon. Preferably in a remote spot so that no one wastes too many resources looking for me or feels that they should waste time or take risks rescuing me.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 16, 2024 11:16:19 GMT
scrapmaven said: Now I ask myself why I didn't do the work of enjoying my life more when I was younger? Please don't ask yourself this question. All of us did our best. This is the quote that always resonates with me: Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride! Hunter S. Thompson
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 16, 2024 11:19:55 GMT
cindyupnorth said: There is still so much I would like to do, before I get older and cant. I would like to travel to Europe. but can I? will I? IDK. This is the only part that bothers me about aging. Is all the things I'd like to do that are out of reach financially. And right now time wise because of work. I cannot just take three weeks and go to Europe kwim? Sometimes I am afraid of how little time there is left to make my dreams come true.
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Post by Merge on Jun 16, 2024 11:57:54 GMT
I'm actually enjoying aging, for now. I am happier and more comfortable in my own skin than I've ever been. I realize that I'm extremely fortunate to be able to semi-retire, and also to be able to continue working with kids (like peabay, I feel they keep me young). And I've been able to travel far more than my parents ever did. DH and I are both committed to taking care of ourselves so we can be mobile and active for as long as possible. I suppose a benefit of never having been a great beauty with a hot body at any point in my life is that I don't miss those things now. Zee said My 23 year old would strongly disagree with you about that. Young men (and older men) are the same assholes they always were in that regard.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jun 16, 2024 12:17:07 GMT
From the time she was a toddler, my granddaughter would hold my face between her hands, look into my eyes, and say, “Grammie, I LOVE your smile wrinkles!” She loves to stroke and snuggle my loose skin, saying it’s so soft.
How can I complain and put myself down after that? The truth is I was a California girl who spent a lot of time at the beach growing up and into my adolescence. And I continued to get as much sun as I could until my 30’s, when I knew better, but by that time, the damage was done.
And I used to weigh over 80lbs more than I do now. Things sag. So I could get unhappy about all the wrinkles and loose skin, but I don’t care. My grandchildren think I’m beautiful and I like the freedom to wear bright fun clothes I love and everybody just sees a happy older lady.
My mother didn’t get the privilege of growing old. Ever since the year I passed her up in age forever, I have had the mindset to live in the moment and savor each experience.
I’ve been disappointed in my health these last few years, it has limited some of my travels and activities. But still I’ve pushed on, and with the help of friends, in the last few months gone up in a hot air balloon, gotten to see and photograph the northern lights, and travel to another state for a concert and girls’ weekend.
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Post by huskergal on Jun 16, 2024 15:27:58 GMT
I have gained a lot of weight in the last few years. That is my biggest concern about aging. I want to be as healthy as I can. Losing weight this time is a constant uphill battle. Lose a pound. Gain 3. Back and forth. It is exhausting.
I have lots of aches and pains, but nothing that prevents me from being active. I am still working out. Not walking as much as I used to. Part of that is because I am co-parenting my almost 4 year old granddaughter. That has cut into my free time.
I look forward. I try to embrace each new age. I have lost both my parents. I like the wisdom I have gained as I have aged. I am looking forward to retirement.
I fear dementia. I told my kids to put me down if I get so bad I don't remember them.
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Post by stormsts on Jun 16, 2024 19:07:04 GMT
I turned 60 a few months ago. It was hard. I still haven't fully accepted that I am 60. I am still very active. DH and I walk, hike...
But I do feel like I don't belong in any one age group. Is 60 old? I don't think so but it seems like most people do. I feel like time is flying by and there is so much I want to see/do.
I am watching my parents age and it is hard. I keep thinking that I am not that far off from what they are experiencing.
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Post by quinlove on Jun 16, 2024 21:17:05 GMT
Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride! Hunter S. Thompson This. 1,000 times this.
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Post by lisae on Jun 16, 2024 23:56:21 GMT
I think at 60 you can embrace aging. I don’t have a problem with wrinkles and other signs of lost youth. As time goes by and you start dealing with debilitating illness that can last for years and years the embracing becomes a little harder. My mother was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s at least 15 yrs ago and it has been an incredibly painful process for her and for us. Not much to embrace there. I'm so sorry about your mother. It's very hard to watch and to deal with all that Alzheimer's entails. {hugs} I read some of the letters to the editor about this article. One piece of advice I'm going to try to take came from a reader who said her doctor had given her 3 directives to help with aging: - Don't gain weight - Exercise, exercise, exercise - Make friends with younger people.
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Post by Judy26 on Jun 17, 2024 1:00:42 GMT
I am enjoying this stage of my life. I have always worked 2 or more jobs to attain financial security. I am finally at a place where I said “enough”. My kids are married to wonderful spouses. I have a 5 week old granddaughter who I will care for when my daughter returns to work in September. I have lots of hobbies and a few good friends. I have decided that now is the perfect time to embark on a journey of self discovery. I am re-examining preconceived beliefs and I have the time to read books and listen to podcasts and really immerse myself in new ideas. I’m like a kid in a candy store. So many topics to explore, hobbies to learn, recipes to make, and on and on. My life is far from perfect. But I now have the freedom to make choices that are good for me. And I plan on spending however long I have left enjoying everyone of them no matter the outcome.
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