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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 18, 2024 3:16:31 GMT
Brats on Hulu by Andrew McCarthy.
I thought it was interesting. Kinda on the dull side, but it kept my interest. I guess I never really realized how much they hated that Brat Pack term. I know I have seen clips and such that they didn't like it much, but they REALLY didn't like it.
Liked some of the old clips I really haven't seen.
Wish Molly Ringwald would have participated (but I get it)
My favorite in order: Pretty in Pink St. Elmo's Fire Breakfast Club
Two movies that I don't think they consider Brat Pack movies Sixteen Candles About Last Night... (I LOVED LOVED this one)
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Post by quinlove on Jun 18, 2024 3:26:27 GMT
I watched it and agree that it was a little dull but interesting. I may not have this right, but I’m pretty sure that Rob Lowe was the only one who did not see the name - Brat Pack - as a bad thing. That’s not surprising since he has such a positive attitude. Breakfast Club is still my favorite.
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Post by seaexplore on Jun 18, 2024 3:47:37 GMT
I haven’t seen it. My 12yo DD and I watched The Breakfast Club on Saturday night. She really liked it.
I love The Breakfast Club, Pretty In Pink, 16 Candles, St. Elmo’s Fire
In that same timeframe- Weird Science and The Outsiders
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Post by Anita on Jun 18, 2024 4:02:17 GMT
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who found it dull. I think my favorite is 16 Candles followed by Pretty in Pink.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 18, 2024 5:05:39 GMT
I haven't watched it yet, but I will do so sometime this week.
My favourite movie of those is The Breakfast Club. Is The Outsiders classed as a Brat Pack movie? If so, that has to be up there too.
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Post by katlady on Jun 18, 2024 5:24:35 GMT
We don't have Hulu, I would like to watch this. Andrew McCarthy was my favorite. Breakfast Club was my favorite Brat Pack movie, and then Pretty In Pink. Is Less Than Zero a brat pack movie? I really liked that movie.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 18, 2024 5:49:54 GMT
We don't have Hulu so can not watch it.
I do really like Breakfast Club and that is about it. I was never really drawn to 16 Candles, Pretty in Pink or St Elmo's Fire. Love the music from the movies but that is a out it.
Funny thing is, I am not a Molly R fan or Rob Lowe.
I do however LOVE Andrew McCarthy in Mannequin, which is not a Brat Pack movie but dang love that movie and his role in it.
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Post by janet on Jun 18, 2024 14:39:09 GMT
I actually watched it last night. I also never knew they hated the name Brat Pack so much! I guess Timothy Hutton was not one I would have considered to be in that group, but it was kind of cool to see all the "where are they now"s. I was surprised no one mentioned Anthony Michael Hall as he was in a few of those movies as well. I did like the very last scene where his phone rings and he says "Judd??"
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Post by Tearisci on Jun 18, 2024 14:42:00 GMT
I watched it this past weekend and found it a little slow but Andrew McCarthy still has a great smile!
My tops would probably be The Breakfast Club, 16 Candles and St. Elmo's Fire.
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Post by shanniebananie on Jun 18, 2024 15:05:32 GMT
As a fun family activity, we are watching an 80s movie each Saturday night this summer. Kids are 21 and 17. So far we have watched 16 Candles, Pretty in Pink and Can't Buy Me Love. They have enjoyed them all so far. I think St. Elmo's Fire will be next.
Maybe at the end of the summer we will watch Brats so they can see where everyone is now.
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Post by pinklady on Jun 18, 2024 15:21:01 GMT
I haven't watched it yet but I definitely will.
I saw clips on Instagram asking who was in the Brat Pack and the varying answers were so interesting. I always considered the cast of St Emo's Fire excluding Mare Winningham (only because I honestly forgot she was in it) the official Brat Pack. I really don't know why but I never considered 16 Candles, Breakfast Club or Pretty in Pink "brat pack movies" they were always just great John Hughes movies. I always thought of them as "brat pack adjacent". Maybe because of the age representation. In St Elmos Fire they were a 20 something group of friends but Breakfast Club were just random high school students not a core group of friends.
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Post by naby64 on Jun 18, 2024 15:28:02 GMT
I haven't watched it yet. I may wait until this weekend when DD is down. I have passed my love of 80s movies on to her. My DH always thought I favored Molly Ringwald. My DD most definitely has the 80s Molly look. Especially when she was a redhead. I knew about some of them not liking the Brat Pack title given to them.
My favorites will always be Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles and Pretty in Pink. I so loved a bad boy back in the day and James Spader was IT! But I married Ducky.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 18, 2024 16:27:50 GMT
I continue to love the Breakfast Club. I will say, some of the movies *really* do not hold up.
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Post by Merge on Jun 18, 2024 16:37:37 GMT
Pretty in Pink Breakfast Club The Outsiders Ferris Bueller (might be more adjacent)
I watched the documentary and what stuck out to me was them saying that this was the first time in history movies were made for a specifically teenage audience.
Is that true? I thought all the beach movies in the 60s were targeted at a teen audience but maybe I’m wrong about that. They were well before my time.
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Post by katlady on Jun 18, 2024 17:23:38 GMT
I watched the documentary and what stuck out to me was them saying that this was the first time in history movies were made for a specifically teenage audience. Is that true? I thought all the beach movies in the 60s were targeted at a teen audience but maybe I’m wrong about that. They were well before my time. Weren't the beach movies of the 60's more about college kids, while the Brat Pack movies, except for St. Elmo's Fire, where more about high schoolers? And they dealt with teen problems. I am just guessing about the beach movie age because I haven't seen one in a long time. I just seem to feel like they were about older "teens", and were more about just having fun in the sun.
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Post by ellen on Jun 18, 2024 19:50:30 GMT
I watched it and thought it was ok. Interesting to see the various actors and actresses who were part of the brat pack or on the edges of it.
My faves: 1. Ferris Buehler’s Day Off 2. The Breakfast Club 3. St. Elmo’s Fire
The first two are by far my faves. I have not watch St. Elmo’s Fire in many years and I am guessing that I might not like it as much as I did in college.
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Post by questioning on Jun 18, 2024 20:06:27 GMT
I watched it and thought it was ok. Interesting to see the various actors and actresses who were part of the brat pack or on the edges of it. My faves: 1. Ferris Buehler’s Day Off 2. The Breakfast Club 3. St. Elmo’s Fire The first two are by far my faves. I have not watch St. Elmo’s Fire in many years and I am guessing that I might not like it as much as I did in college. Watch St Elmo's Fire and report back. I was older than the John Hughes teen movies, and in sync life and career wise with ST Elmo's Fire. I watched it again this winter, the fashions were and it made me happy to remember and be beyond the whole group and individual angst phase. So. Much. Drama. I didn't realize they didn't like the term, will watch this. was James Spader part of the Brat Pack? He and others co-mingled but weren't really, like Melissa Gilbert or Charlie Sheen.
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Post by Gennifer on Jun 18, 2024 20:11:16 GMT
I haven’t seen any of these movies (except Ferris) or watched the documentary, but can someone explain why they were called The Brat Pack? I’m trying to figure out why they would be upset at that.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 18, 2024 20:31:57 GMT
I haven’t seen any of these movies (except Ferris) or watched the documentary, but can someone explain why they were called The Brat Pack? I’m trying to figure out why they would be upset at that. I believe it was because they were top notch at the time. They sold movie tickets. People wanted to meet them. They partied. They made a lot of money. It was a play on words from The Rat Pack. A group doing well and changing the landscape of music and they were doing the same for teen movies.
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Post by Tearisci on Jun 18, 2024 20:40:04 GMT
One of the other things pointed out in the movie was that they weren't really friends who hung out together outside of work. They did their jobs and went their separate ways. None really kept in touch over the years. I think that Andrew said it was the first time he had spoken to Emiliio in 30 years.
I think Timothy Hutton was a stretch for the Brat Pack since he didn't star in any movies with them. There were other closer would-be members like Anthony Michael Hall, Mare Winningham, and the cast of The Outsiders.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 18, 2024 20:43:39 GMT
i didn't like Molly Ringwald so i haven't seen the movies where she was the only female lead. i was ok in seeing her in Breakfast Club because i liked the whole ensemble do movie is my favorite for Brat Pack movies.
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Post by oh yvonne on Jun 18, 2024 20:49:11 GMT
I watched it and was so...'meh' about it. It wasn't a very interesting documentary. Emilio seemed annoyed and pissed off over the Brat pack title. Demi was full of psychobabble but at least she seemed to see it for what it was, good damn publicity. Same with Rob Lowe, the most normal, grounded and real one of the bunch. Everyone else I did enjoy seeing again. But Andrew McC just came off petulant and angry about the whole thing. Like when he interviewed the guy who wrote the original article, he was actually trying to make the guy feel bad about it! He straight up asked him if he regretted writing it! Are you kidding me? Seriously? I thought the author was very diplomatic about the whole thing. To me, he seemed slightly amused, or maybe bemused about Andrew still crying over it 40 years later. He threw a 'let's do lunch sometime' as a bone but you know after Andrew left he was like 'sheesh!" I did inspire me to watch About Last Night again, one of my all time favorites despite Elizabeth Perkin's annoying jealous witch character. She acted like a Karen through the whole movie. Sheesh! and unlike most people, I never did care for Pretty in Pink. Breakfast Club still reins supreme with Sixteen Candles a close second in my book.
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Post by oh yvonne on Jun 18, 2024 20:57:48 GMT
I haven't watched it yet, but I will do so sometime this week. My favourite movie of those is The Breakfast Club. Is The Outsiders classed as a Brat Pack movie? If so, that has to be up there too. I wondered this too, but no, I don't think so. The Outsiders, Rumblefish, My Body Guard, Little Darlings, Over the Edge..those were for us Gen Jones kids, prior to the Bratpack era. Our movies were waaaay dark and overly $exualized. Don't get me started on Brooke Shield's movies. <shudder> although I loved Blue Lagoon, I can't watch it now.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 18, 2024 21:15:21 GMT
I’ve watched half of it so far. It’s interesting I love most of the movies. I don’t think I had ever realized how much one press story could affect people’s lives so much. BUT, I think more of them needed to have a ‘fuck it I’m going to do this anyway’ attitude and it might not have affected them as much. Rather than canceling films with talented colleagues because that might play into a reputation’ but if they are talented and respect each others work, some reporter shouldn’t change that. Obviously Rob Lowe just kept doing things and just grabbed the wheel and drove his career forward. I get that other people were type casting them but they did not also have to cancel things on each other which imo played into it too much.
It is a bit slow but I know I’ll finish it because I connect with this group of celebrities more than most and I do find it interesting.
I guess I forgot that Tom cruise was considered a brat pack actor. I’d kind of detached him from that after all his craziness. Yes I still watch his movies but he himself doesn’t create any of the endearing feelings for me that the others seem to bring up anymore.
I personally think ‘the brat pack’ is an endearing term now, and I simply tuned into the documentary because of my personal nostalgia for them as acting professionals. IMO they are *my* generations key actors attached to a now classic time period and movement that speaks to me. And rewatching the movies this many decades later still speaks to me and still rings true from the now adult perspective. The ‘supporting’ actors playing the adult roles ( or older adults to the young adults ) in those films did not get the kudos/credit they deserved for creating the classic backdrops these movies were happening in which gave the movies the time period authenticity they had. I liked that he now pulled in some people who were behind the scenes of making some of that happen.
I guess I’m just a geek who just nostalgically loves movies if that time period.
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Post by bethany102399 on Jun 18, 2024 21:44:33 GMT
I did like the very last scene where his phone rings and he says "Judd?? I loved that part. I did find it slow at points. I loved when he saw Rob Lowe and Rob was like when is the last time we saw each other? Then goes back in for another hug when he hears it's been 30 years. and I did fall down the rabbit hole with About Last Night and St. Elmo's Fire as both are on hulu. I remembered both of them but ALN was more explicit than I remember, maybe I got the "edited" version. I found both the side characters to be highly annoying. Breakfast club remains my favorite of the brat pack films followed closely by sixteen candles. I wasn't "allowed" to watch breakfast club unless I agreed to talk to my parents after which of course I was like uh no. Looking back on it now I suspect that was deliberate on their part to keep me from watching it. But honestly, having seen it both then and now I wonder what their objections were.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 18, 2024 22:59:57 GMT
I haven't watched it yet, but I will do so sometime this week. My favourite movie of those is The Breakfast Club. Is The Outsiders classed as a Brat Pack movie? If so, that has to be up there too. I wondered this too, but no, I don't think so. The Outsiders, Rumblefish, My Body Guard, Little Darlings, Over the Edge..those were for us Gen Jones kids, prior to the Bratpack era. That's what I thought, but when I google "Brat Pack movies" and also "80s Brat Pack movies", The Outsiders came up on a few of the lists - including IMDb.
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Post by Gennifer on Jun 18, 2024 23:24:46 GMT
I haven’t seen any of these movies (except Ferris) or watched the documentary, but can someone explain why they were called The Brat Pack? I’m trying to figure out why they would be upset at that. I believe it was because they were top notch at the time. They sold movie tickets. People wanted to meet them. They partied. They made a lot of money. It was a play on words from The Rat Pack. A group doing well and changing the landscape of music and they were doing the same for teen movies. I get that it’s a play on The Rat Pack. Were they jerks? Was it just because they were young? Like, are they insulted because they were called that because of some bad behavior, or are they insulted because they don’t think they were brats and it’s undeserved?
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Post by katlady on Jun 18, 2024 23:59:09 GMT
Were they jerks? Was it just because they were young? Like, are they insulted because they were called that because of some bad behavior, or are they insulted because they don’t think they were brats and it’s undeserved? I think they just didn't want to be pigeonholed into being one type of actor. They wanted to expand the types of roles they got, and being called part of the "Brat Pack", sort of typecasted them into certain roles.
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Post by sideways on Jun 19, 2024 0:25:06 GMT
I haven’t watched the documentary and given the consensus, I might skip it. My favorite brat pack movies are St. Elmo’s Fire, Breakfast Club, and Sixteen Candles. But, wow(!) is Sixteen Candles problematic. It’s amazing the things we just didn’t really see then. I never cared for Pretty in Pink. I think partly because they took that gorgeous pink dress and turned it into that monstrosity that Molly Ringwald wears.
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Post by disneypal on Jun 19, 2024 0:28:56 GMT
I enjoyed the documentary, I felt that Andrew kept asking the same questions over & over and more could have been done with it, but it was a nice trip down memory lane.
I saw every Brat Pack movie & multiple times (too many to count)
Favorites are; The Breakfast Club St. Elmo’s Fire Pretty in Pink The Outsiders About Last Night
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