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Post by librarylady on Jun 21, 2024 15:25:39 GMT
Background: DH has had his urologist for many years. It is in a practice with 5 physicians. This dr. found his prostate cancer in 2000 and he was successfully treated. After about 5 years of check ups with no problems, the dr. said to DH, "I don't need to keep taking your money. No reason to see me unless there is a problem." DH had blood in his urine back in March and we had trouble getting in. He could not get an appointment until his internist send a referral and then DH got an appointment. That was when tumor was discovered. Dr. found it too large to remove in an office visit.
DH has surgery scheduled for June 28. (I manage DH's online presence as he does not feel comfortable with technology.) I went to the physician's website and attempted to log on to the patient portal because pathology reports are usually given there etc. The patient portal says if this is the first time to go to the portal the receptionist must give the patient a password and then the patient can change it to whatever the patient wants. "When you give your email address to the office, the receptionist will give you the patient portal information." Problem is: we gave the email address before patient portals were being used.
I have tried to speak to the receptionist. Friday the 17th, I let the phone ring for 15 minutes and no one answered. I wrote a letter then, saying I could not reach the office by phone and would she email the patient portal link/password. As of today, no response. Their phone system says you can leave a voice mail, but we don't check for messages every day.
I am getting pi$$ed. Why the hell can't I get a response? I am on the list of "people who can discuss your medical records or Rx." Why do they not want to hear from the patients?
When he recovers from this surgery, I want him to find a new physician whose office is friendly to the patients. DH doesn't really want to change. When we go for the surgery, I plan to discuss this with the physician--because I believe I'll be able to speak to him then, but never reach him again!
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peabay
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Post by peabay on Jun 21, 2024 15:30:18 GMT
Wow, that is frustrating!
First, your dh gets to choose his own doctor - don't make him change if he doesn't want to. Second - definitely talk to the doctor. That is crazy that you're not getting any response. Totally unprofessional.
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Post by jenb72 on Jun 21, 2024 15:40:12 GMT
I feel your frustration. I left my gyno for the very problem you're having. It was impossible to ever get anyone on the phone to make an appointment/ask a question/reschedule, etc. They changed systems and I had to reregister for a new patient portal and it took me several days to get someone on the phone to get my account set up. I'd been with this doctor for nearly 2 decades. She was also my oldest DD's doctor and birthed her first child. When I left I wrote her a message in the patient portal. I never heard a single word back. Not a word. For a doctor I'd been with for nearly 20 years.
Having said all that, I agree with peabay - your DH gets to pick his doctor. But I hate that it's so frustrating for you. You may need to just keep calling to try and get them on the phone and hope that you hit them at a good time. I would also leave a voicemail, or several, even if they don't check them every day. And I would definitely have a heart to heart with the doc when you do finally get in front of him.
I'll keep my fingers crossed you're finally able to get through.
Jen
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Judy26
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Post by Judy26 on Jun 21, 2024 16:23:27 GMT
My doctor’s office is closed Friday afternoons during the summer. Have you called back since then? I understand your frustration. It is so difficult to get an actual person to answer a phone just about anywhere these days. I hope your DH’s surgery is a success. I’m sure your concern for him is upping the anxiety to the next level.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 21, 2024 16:37:29 GMT
I am only 52 but I sound like I am 90 when I talk about how difficult it is to manage medical treatment now. I am sorry you are dealing with this!
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Post by nightnurse on Jun 21, 2024 16:41:55 GMT
Super annoying and unacceptable. Unfortunately, all too common. I know im a broken record, but health care in this country is in crisis. For profit health care companies have bought up all the practices and insurance companies have so much red tape to get through in order to get any kind of reimbursement. Profit it prioritized over patient care. There’s one non clinical person to answer phones, check people in, do the paperwork….all that to say, I’m not sure another office will be any better, and then you lose the continuity of care and being well known by the urologist.
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 21, 2024 16:54:01 GMT
If your dh's doctor is part of a medical group and not independent than I would call the main number for the medical group and ask to speak to patient relations.
They will get this resolved quickly.
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Post by LilyRose on Jun 21, 2024 17:02:09 GMT
I’m sorry for what you’re going through, but I’m honestly not that surprised. I find it next to impossible to get in contact with the doctor’s office these days. You have to leave a message, then it takes at least 24 business hours for them to get back to you, and inevitably they manage to catch you when you’re unavailable, so they leave you a message and the game starts all over again. I had my thyroid out in February and the surgeon’s office was particularly nasty. Now I feel there are billing issues, which I asked to speak to someone about when I was there for my last follow up. I was informed that person wasn’t there and they would call me back. They never did – they sent me an email that did not fully answer my questions. it goes on and on like this.
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Post by worrywart on Jun 21, 2024 17:25:07 GMT
The exact same thing happened to dh after he had a physical and blood work! They had changed their portal so of course you couldn't sign in with the old info (not that dh has ANY idea what his old info is lol). He had to call repeatedly and FINALLY got a temporary password or they sent him an email to enroll. So annoying!!
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basketdiva
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Post by basketdiva on Jun 21, 2024 18:16:00 GMT
We had that issue with getting the patient portal information or a return phone call. The office was close so the next day we walked in to get what we needed.
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Post by lisae on Jun 21, 2024 19:05:12 GMT
When you call is there a choice to speak to a nurse? Usually, you have to leave a message on a nurses line but they do call you back. It can be the next day. I'd bypass the receptionist and go to the nurse directly if necessary. Or is it possible to just go to the office in person and speak to the receptionist.
I would be just as frustrated as you are with this situation. I'm sorry you are having to deal with all this on top of preparing for surgery and whatever that will entail.
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Post by Zee on Jun 21, 2024 19:39:36 GMT
It's practically impossible to speak to anyone at any of my doctor's offices without waiting a day for a callback. It's unfortunately the norm now. I've been playing this game for the last ten years and it's hard to manage your cancer care having to do this, very annoying and unnecessarily stressful.
Maybe you can go in person and ask? Or leave a message on the nurse line, if that's an option.
Thinking good thoughts for your husband.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 21, 2024 20:47:09 GMT
If it’s not too far away, I would go to the office and get the password.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 21, 2024 21:53:06 GMT
If it’s not too far away, I would go to the office and get the password. I think I will do that, though it will probably really pi$$ her off.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 22, 2024 1:18:06 GMT
If it’s not too far away, I would go to the office and get the password. I think I will do that, though it will probably really pi$$ her off. Eh, that’s her problem. You have a right to the information.
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Post by teddyw on Jun 22, 2024 11:26:40 GMT
If it’s not too far away, I would go to the office and get the password. I think I will do that, though it will probably really pi$$ her off. Too bad. You need the info and she won’t get it to you via other channels. My kid’s pediatrician had a terrible office manager. Mean, never called back …. It was the physician’s wife. So complaining did nothing.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 22, 2024 11:47:06 GMT
I think I will do that, though it will probably really pi$$ her off. Too bad. You need the info and she won’t get it to you via other channels. My kid’s pediatrician had a terrible office manager. Mean, never called back …. It was the physician’s wife. So complaining did nothing. I have left Dr offices for bad office managers. Worst one was where his mother & his wife were co office managers and could obviously do no wrong. However, the not answering phones needing to leave a message for call back is all too common now a days. I have had to go into my dr office & leave a note before, the staff didn’t seem to mind, or weren’t obvious about it. Weirdly, I found my pets vet practice to be way more responsive - like same day if not right away.
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Post by peasapie on Jun 22, 2024 12:10:43 GMT
That’s annoying. I’d definitely go there in person — though of course you shouldn’t have to. Good luck with your husband’s surgery. I hope it all turns out well.
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Post by jill8909 on Jun 22, 2024 12:33:10 GMT
you are absolutely correct. unfortunately medicine in the US (at least) is a nightmare at worst and difficult at best.
If you can, Tell the doctor you are considering switching because of administrative issues. But make sure you have a new person lined up whose office really is better before you switch.
This is one reason we pay $4000 K out of pocket for my husband and me to see a concierge primary care physician. Yes, we can afford it - but it cuts down on our vacation and my stamping $$. Has this helped when we are in the hospital? NO. But at least we have an advocate.
Best of luck
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Post by donnab on Jun 22, 2024 13:06:19 GMT
I understand how immensely frustrating it is to get in touch with your doctor's office. I currently am working a contract at a primary care office. We have about 10 doctors and 30 residents in the practice and the amount of work is overwhelming. I'm one of the nurses. I'm working contract with the office because they are severely short staffed. We have soooo many things we need to do for both patients and doctors that there is just not a way to get it all done with the amount of staff available. I can go to work at 8am and leave at 4:30 and only take my 1/2 hour lunch. That means I don't get any other breaks. No time on my phone. No time chit chatting. Constant continuous working. I walk into work on Monday with an inbox of over 100 phone calls that have come in that need to be worked. Not all of them will get answered each day since they vary so much in what needs to be done. We also have full inboxes of medication refills, lab/imaging results, notes & requests from the providers, follow-up on calls we've been working on, and going through patient portal requests. The list is endless. I think there are probably about 10-15 boxes of information that needs someone to go through daily. We have to prioritize and answer the most important first. We could probably get through most of the computer work each day if we were 100% uninterrupted. But during the day we are answering patient triage calls that come through the call center, responding to patients that have stopped into the clinic with a question, attending to clinic patients that need a nurse for something, taking patients that come to clinic and need to be admitted to the hospital or emergency room to their respective departments, the list goes on and on and on...
So, all this to say, I can imagine specialists are just as bad since they have so many patients trying to get in to see them. Patients are sicker and care is more involved. My advice would be to go into the office. The front desk staff should be able to get you situated with the portal pretty quickly. I would also ask to speak to a nurse. They should be able to answer any questions you may have fairly quickly.
Good luck on your dh's surgery-I hope all goes well.
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Post by scraplette on Jun 22, 2024 17:50:21 GMT
You are being reasonable. I hope you get to talk to a human on Monday.
We gripe weekly about communication with doctors. My almost 90 father has gone to the same geriatric practice for 20 years. The practice partnered with a hospital network for administrative needs four years ago. Just in time for Covid chaos.
It is awful. Senior patients are told to check their dashboard, and look online for information and directions. My Dad spoke to his doctor, who shrugged his shoulders. He says he has no authority, and he didn’t this so he could doctor and not manage. Everyone is losing.
You can tell by this thread tech literate users have problems with hospital systems. I’ll scan my own groceries if I can trade that for a human to discuss medical issues
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Post by westiemom on Jun 22, 2024 23:35:50 GMT
I read all the responses here. The nurses who gave you advice are spot on. I retired 4 years ago....... sooner than I thought I would but I could no longer deal with the bureaucracy. But I think I can offer you some ideas. First, physically go to the office on Monday. Take a book. Play nice with the front desk but ask to speak with a nurse. Tell them you can wait. I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE you to befriend some of the nurses in this practice. They don't need gifts. Just some kindness. My guess is they are overwhelmed and the office manager makes them crazier than she is making you. I know you are concerned about your husband. Tell the nurse that. Tell him/her you are not normally difficult but you are scared. Really scared. She/he will get it, I promise. You absolutely have reason to be frustrated but, in order for technology to work for the patient, you must have access. A good nurse will help you. I pray that all goes well for your husband. His choice of physician is HIS choice. Your role is to be his best advocate and his constant support. Almost every nurse I have ever known is compassionate. They will call you back. But they have to know who you are first and I think the clerical help is not making sure that happens.
To the nurse with the contract assignment: you made me catch my breath. This was the EXACT situation I retired from. Nurse manager in a large surgical practice. Inbox full all the time. Every month over 150 surgeries. Never left if there were calls to return or prescription refills on my desk. Never enough help. It is brutal. God bless you!
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 22, 2024 23:52:57 GMT
When I rang to book an appointment at the vet last week, they answered then put me straight on hold. I had to wait a little while, but it was a minor inconvenience, and nothing like you're describing. Then when I took my dog in for his appointment (vaccinations), the phone was ringing non stop. The girl on reception was organising payment and booking a follow up appointment for me, and the other one was helping a guy who came in with his dying cat. It gave me a better understanding of why the phone doesn't get answered promptly all the time.
Your situation sounds very frustrating. It sounds like you might have to go there in person to get any response. Which will be very annoying if they're not close to home!
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Post by librarylady on Jun 24, 2024 18:02:12 GMT
We finally got a response this morning. I am at my Monday volunteer job and did a fast check of my email and the link to the patient portal was sent this morning.
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Post by smasonnc on Jun 25, 2024 13:17:16 GMT
If it’s not too far away, I would go to the office and get the password. I think I will do that, though it will probably really pi$$ her off. She's not worried about pi$$ing you off. Go for it. DD had a similar experience with a neurologist and couldn't get meds. There was a portal but it was useless. She was off at college so DH went into the office. When she got her results and prescription she found a new dr. and gave them a bad reviews on Google and Rate My MD. They called her right away but she told them too little, too late.
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