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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 3, 2024 17:57:12 GMT
I used to shop at Macy's a lot because there was a store 10-15 minutes away in our old town. Now, we only shop there at Christmas time at a mall 35-40 minutes away. We always pay our balances off so don't incur interest charges. We just got a letter that the annual rate is increasing to 34.49%. I can't imagine. Our Costco Visa is just about 21% and our CapOne Venture Master Card is the same. I don't know what's Macy's is thinking.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 3, 2024 17:58:18 GMT
Well, that must be where they’re making their money these days. Traditional retail is hurting all over the place.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 3, 2024 18:03:13 GMT
Well, that must be where they’re making their money these days. Traditional retail is hurting all over the place. Which is a shame. I prefer shopping where I can actually try on the clothes, know the quality, etc. I'm old school, I guess.
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Post by quiltz on Jul 3, 2024 18:08:51 GMT
Which is a shame. I prefer shopping where I can actually try on the clothes, know the quality, etc. I'm old school, I guess. If you like shopping there and you pay off the balance on time, what difference does it make?
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 3, 2024 18:09:59 GMT
I was shocked when I received this notice! I occasionally order from Macy's, but it's usually a Clinique purchase. Since I pay my bill promptly, this does not affect me.
Interest rates should be regulated.
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Post by minjoy on Jul 3, 2024 18:12:41 GMT
We too got something recently about one of our cards, we don’t have macys and I can’t remember which one it was but it was a notice that is was going up to 34.99%. I was totally shocked, had no idea the rates have been going up cause we pay ours off before interest. I was thankful that we finally got out of credit card debt a few years ago.
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Post by katlady on Jul 3, 2024 18:20:09 GMT
I don’t even think Macy’s gets the interest. Their card is issued by American Express. AE pays Macy’s for the purchase, minus a 3% transaction fee, then AE has to go after the credit card holder for the money it technically loaned to them. It is the bank getting the interest, not the stores, I think. There are still a few stores that issue their own cards, Target I think is one. Nordstrom used to be their own bank, but I don’t think that is true anymore. It is the banks setting the high interest rates.
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Post by MichyM on Jul 3, 2024 18:32:07 GMT
That is freaking insane. I feel very fortunate that I can pay off my CC balances monthly. Many people cannot, and it's typically the folks who are most affected adversely by these interest rates :/
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 3, 2024 18:35:30 GMT
OMG. I had some CC debt when I was younger, but no more. The interest %s are insane.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 3, 2024 18:35:32 GMT
That is insane. I thought it was illegal to be that high. I thought it was capped but I guess not. I can’t imagine paying that. I am fortunate to be able to pay my bill monthly and don’t shop there but yikes that’s insane.
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Post by nightnurse on Jul 3, 2024 18:42:19 GMT
Which is a shame. I prefer shopping where I can actually try on the clothes, know the quality, etc. I'm old school, I guess. If you like shopping there and you pay off the balance on time, what difference does it make? For me, it’s also the principle of the matter. That’s usury. Nearly 35%. I have a zero balance and like the convenience of using it to order on line but I won’t be anymore. I’ll be cancelling.
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Post by katlady on Jul 3, 2024 18:44:00 GMT
That is insane. I thought it was illegal to be that high. I thought it was capped but I guess not. I can’t imagine paying that. I am fortunate to be able to pay my bill monthly and don’t shop there but yikes that’s insane. There is no max on credit card interest rate. States can put certain caps on rates, but there are unfortunately many ways to get around those caps, such as being based in a state with no cap.
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Post by Merge on Jul 3, 2024 18:53:53 GMT
Retail credit cards are a trap. Shop where you can afford to pay outright.
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Post by Tearisci on Jul 3, 2024 19:01:03 GMT
That's crazy!
I was able to pay off all of my credit cards with my med malpractice funds but before then I had a lot of credit cards that I used to pay for my attorney. I even was paying on my parent's credit card. Without those funds, I was in a world of hurt thinking I'd never get out of debt and really, there's no way I would have with my salary.
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Post by littlemama on Jul 3, 2024 19:21:51 GMT
I think lowes is around 28%.
To me, that is predatory and needs to be regulated.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 3, 2024 19:35:12 GMT
Which is a shame. I prefer shopping where I can actually try on the clothes, know the quality, etc. I'm old school, I guess. If you like shopping there and you pay off the balance on time, what difference does it make? It doesn't make a difference to me but it sure does to many other people who can't pay their bills for whatever reason.
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Post by melanell on Jul 3, 2024 19:39:49 GMT
Well, that must be where they’re making their money these days. Traditional retail is hurting all over the place. I can remember my MIL saying that she worked at Sears back in the late 80s, and even then the employees were told that the credit cards were the most important thing they could sell to customers. I just googled Sears' rates now and found that their card's regular APR is 30.49%.
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Post by kimi on Jul 3, 2024 19:41:14 GMT
I don’t even think Macy’s gets the interest. Their card is issued by American Express. AE pays Macy’s for the purchase, minus a 3% transaction fee, then AE has to go after the credit card holder for the money it technically loaned to them. It is the bank getting the interest, not the stores, I think. There are still a few stores that issue their own cards, Target I think is one. Nordstrom used to be their own bank, but I don’t think that is true anymore. It is the banks setting the high interest rates. I recently received a notice from Macy's AMEX stating that my Macy's AMEX card will no long be a Macy's card. (I think this is effective mid-July 2024) I've had this combined card for many years. I wonder if Macy's will send out new Macy's cards.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 3, 2024 20:35:19 GMT
I can see why people like store credit cards. They offer good deals. But IMO, unless you can pay it off every month, they are a terrible idea for consumers. Every time that I get my hair cut at Ulta, they offer me a CC with a very attractive deal. Nope, nope, and nope. I wonder if a lot of people have no idea how high those interest rates are.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 3, 2024 20:42:22 GMT
I think lowes is around 28%. To me, that is predatory and needs to be regulated. I totally agree! Especially when you consider that you can't pay at a register without them hard selling the credit card.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 3, 2024 20:46:49 GMT
Been talking so much to my kids about credit card fees/interest and how easy it is to snow ball out of control. It does not take long at those interest rates!!
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Post by littlemama on Jul 3, 2024 20:50:25 GMT
I think lowes is around 28%. To me, that is predatory and needs to be regulated. I totally agree! Especially when you consider that you can't pay at a register without them hard selling the credit card. Dont get me wrong, I use my Lowes card for bigger purchases, but I also pay it off every month.
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Post by basketdiva on Jul 3, 2024 21:02:20 GMT
So glad my cc interest us only 14.19% even though I do pay it off.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 3, 2024 21:20:17 GMT
I only use dept store cards if there's a special discount on something I need and then I go home and pay it off online. However, not everyone can do this. It's a shame that the interest is so high. We always taught our kids that a credit card is not a free shopping spree. It means that you don't use it unless you have the cash to pay that bill. Emergencies do arise, but your credit card interest is another unnecessary payment that you cannot afford.
Credit card companies make their money from the customers who make minimum payments each month.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 3, 2024 21:24:51 GMT
Been talking so much to my kids about credit card fees/interest and how easy it is to snow ball out of control. It does not take long at those interest rates!! Yep, when my DS got his first summer job (2004) I pounded 2 things into his brain: pay off your CC every month and fully fund a Roth IRA every year. He actually listened and has done those things ever since. Every high school should have at least a 6-week class on these things.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 3, 2024 21:27:55 GMT
When I had my first real job out of college it was in a bank trust department. The second day a Visa card showed up on my desk. The bank had it's own Visa card department so it was standard to issue one. Visa interest at the time was 18% but I got the employee rate of 6%. Quite the deal at the time.
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Post by katlady on Jul 3, 2024 21:33:58 GMT
Been talking so much to my kids about credit card fees/interest and how easy it is to snow ball out of control. It does not take long at those interest rates!! Yep, when my DS got his first summer job (2004) I pounded 2 things into his brain: pay off your CC every month and fully fund a Roth IRA every year. He actually listened and has done those things ever since. Every high school should have at least a 6-week class on these things. CA is adding a financial literacy requirement to graduate high school, starting I think in 2027. Hope it helps!
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 3, 2024 21:47:28 GMT
I’m a CA teacher and I do Financial literacy for 1 term (30 days) every year. I bring in a credit card statement and go thru it with my kids and have the “if I don’t pay this month…” and “if I make the minimum payment” discussions. DH and I charge EVERYTHING and pay it off every month so my bill is usually pretty high. I do the same with my paystub and go thru what all the deductions are and what they mean. The kids usually really get into those 2 lessons. We do loans and savings and retirement accounts and all that. I enjoy teaching this class because it’s real life. Often I’m surprised by what the kids already know about saving and what not. Their parents are doing an ok job. I always tell them that the only loan we have is for our home. Cars are paid for what cash or 0% loans. They don’t understand how we do that. I explained that as soon as I purchase my new to me car (don’t buy brand new) I put the “monthly” payment into a savings account. When it comes time to get a new car (we drive them until they’re dead) I’ll have cash to get that one. Repeat.
I’m looking at a new financial literacy curriculum to test out this year as I’ve used the current one (which is good) for the past 2 years.
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Post by malibou on Jul 3, 2024 22:16:22 GMT
Yep, when my DS got his first summer job (2004) I pounded 2 things into his brain: pay off your CC every month and fully fund a Roth IRA every year. He actually listened and has done those things ever since. Every high school should have at least a 6-week class on these things. CA is adding a financial literacy requirement to graduate high school, starting I think in 2027. Hope it helps! Ds23 said today that he heard it is happening at his school this fall. We've drilled these things into him, and we've heard he in turn drills it into his friend group.
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Post by snyder on Jul 3, 2024 23:08:04 GMT
And the rick (banks) get richer and the poor get poorer.
No wonder people can not get ahead these days. So many negative factors to hurdle. Housing, Medical, Insurances, Food. Uggg!
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