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Post by Lexica on Jul 3, 2024 19:44:21 GMT
I am posting this as a heads up to talk to your doctor if you are taking these drugs to see if you are at risk, NOT as a panic warning to stop them. Apparently it is a rare form of blindness and this eye institute had gotten a sudden increase of cases last summer and investigation determined the increase was in correlation to patients starting these medications. They stated “Our findings should be viewed as being significant but tentative, as future studies are needed to examine these questions in a much larger and more diverse population.” I am not taking either of these, but had been seriously considering talking to my doctor about whether one of them would be beneficial for me. I understand this is an unusual side effect, but eyesight is too precious for me to even take the chance of damaging it so I will not be asking to start this. HOWEVER, if I were already on it and read this article, I would be making an appointment to discuss this with my doctor and would then follow her advice. Macular Degeneration runs in my family, so I would not want to risk another eye issue. www.cnn.com/2024/07/03/health/ozempic-wegovy-blindness-rare-risk/index.html |
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Post by Tearisci on Jul 3, 2024 20:03:09 GMT
Interesting. I'm starting to take Ozempic again as I was off for a few months. Macular Degeneration also runs in my family so something to be aware of.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 3, 2024 20:52:25 GMT
I am not taking those medications. But anytime you take a medication, you need to decide if the benefits outweigh the risk. I have a rare form of glaucoma (close angle glaucoma). I also have asthma. One of the medications that should be avoided are steroids, including steroid inhalers. My eye doctor flat out told me breathing is more important than vision. Take the inhaler when you really need it. The benefit outweighs the risk.
If you are taking weight loss medication, you need to weigh the benefits. Longer life comes from improved health. You will feel better and have a better quality of life as you age. To me, that outweighs the low risk of developing a rare eye condition. Discuss with your doctor and form your conclusions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2024 21:29:36 GMT
Diabetes can cause blindness. Did the study exclude those that already may be going blind from diabetes?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 3, 2024 22:13:03 GMT
Unfortunately every medicine carries risks..
If aspirin were invented today it would probably not be OTC.
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Post by Lexica on Jul 3, 2024 22:41:25 GMT
Diabetes can cause blindness. Did the study exclude those that already may be going blind from diabetes? I don’t know whether that was factored in or not. I would imagine it was since they saw a sudden increase in this sudden blindness with multiple patients who were using those medications. The article said it was a rare occurrence, then they had three people in one week, all using these medications. That is what triggered their investigation. But they did say that more studies with a wider patient base should be conducted. They wrote the paper on their own smaller study. |
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Post by Lexica on Jul 3, 2024 22:51:35 GMT
I am not taking those medications. But anytime you take a medication, you need to decide if the benefits outweigh the risk. I have a rare form of glaucoma (close angle glaucoma). I also have asthma. One of the medications that should be avoided are steroids, including steroid inhalers. My eye doctor flat out told me breathing is more important than vision. Take the inhaler when you really need it. The benefit outweighs the risk. If you are taking weight loss medication, you need to weigh the benefits. Longer life comes from improved health. You will feel better and have a better quality of life as you age. To me, that outweighs the low risk of developing a rare eye condition. Discuss with your doctor and form your conclusions. I totally understand and agree with you. I also have asthma and sleep apnea. I take a pill for the asthma as well as carry an inhaler for use if I am exposed to a trigger. The medication warns users when taking the medication if they have sleep apnea. I take the pill every night before putting my CPAP on and have successfully woken up the next morning. I think there is a similar warning with my pain pills and the sleep apnea. You just do what you need to do. I posted this because I had not heard that this was a possible side effect and thought people who are using them should be advised of it and can speak with their own doctor as to their personal risk. If I were using it, I would want to know of the possibility. |
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 4, 2024 15:01:07 GMT
I am posting this as a heads up to talk to your doctor if you are taking these drugs to see if you are at risk, NOT as a panic warning to stop them. Apparently it is a rare form of blindness and this eye institute had gotten a sudden increase of cases last summer and investigation determined the increase was in correlation to patients starting these medications. They stated “Our findings should be viewed as being significant but tentative, as future studies are needed to examine these questions in a much larger and more diverse population.” I am not taking either of these, but had been seriously considering talking to my doctor about whether one of them would be beneficial for me. I understand this is an unusual side effect, but eyesight is too precious for me to even take the chance of damaging it so I will not be asking to start this. HOWEVER, if I were already on it and read this article, I would be making an appointment to discuss this with my doctor and would then follow her advice. Macular Degeneration runs in my family, so I would not want to risk another eye issue.
www.cnn.com/2024/07/03/health/ozempic-wegovy-blindness-rare-risk/index.htmlTFS! Macula Degeneration also runs in my family. When these meds first came out my weight loss doc offered them to me but I declined. I feel like these drugs always have side effects that aren't immediately apparent. I'm thinking about years ago when the meds came out and then they pulled them b/c they caused heart issues, I think. I talked to my cardiologist and she agreed with my decision. I know what I need to do, I just need to do it. I'm down 33lbs thus far, just have to keep going. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 4, 2024 15:08:47 GMT
My primary care doctor has been on my butt to take weight loss drugs. I keep telling her no. My psychiatrist was a resounding no. What I can't understand is why people would be so willing to take drugs that impact their brain function if they don't have to. There is so much about the brain we don't know. I have to take 4 different mental health drugs to control my very severe bipolar disorder. I know exactly the extent to which these things work on the mind and if I didn't need them to function like a halfway decent neurotypical person, there's no way I'd take drugs that affect my brain. I know I am already at much higher risk of dementia because we know decades of antipsychotic use raises the chances of it developing. I want to see what the long term effects of these drugs are too.
I feel like media is making these drugs out to be a wonder cure. I don't judge you for taking them, but I feel like there has got to be a better way.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 4, 2024 15:53:26 GMT
My primary care doctor has been on my butt to take weight loss drugs. I keep telling her no. My psychiatrist was a resounding no. What I can't understand is why people would be so willing to take drugs that impact their brain function if they don't have to. There is so much about the brain we don't know. I have to take 4 different mental health drugs to control my very severe bipolar disorder. I know exactly the extent to which these things work on the mind and if I didn't need them to function like a halfway decent neurotypical person, there's no way I'd take drugs that affect my brain. I know I am already at much higher risk of dementia because we know decades of antipsychotic use raises the chances of it developing. I want to see what the long term effects of these drugs are too. I feel like media is making these drugs out to be a wonder cure. I don't judge you for taking them, but I feel like there has got to be a better way. And the thing is, once you stop, the food talk comes back. And this the weight gain. I can see it being used to help lower ones weight while also doing intense therapy to work on the food issues. But these social media, celeb pushed weight loss drugs are more harmful than good for so many. A friend was on it for 3 months and after several pancreatitis and Gastroparesis had to stop. All of her weight plus more came back because the med stopped the food talk in her head. So she was loosing weight yeah but at what cost?! She was also very jittery and hardly ate. So basically starving herself. |
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Post by RosieKat on Jul 4, 2024 22:49:39 GMT
I can see it being used to help lower ones weight while also doing intense therapy to work on the food issues. But these social media, celeb pushed weight loss drugs are more harmful than good for so many. A friend was on it for 3 months and after several pancreatitis and Gastroparesis had to stop. All of her weight plus more came back because the med stopped the food talk in her head. So she was loosing weight yeah but at what cost?! I suspect that for a lot of people, it ends up being like having lap bands/various weight loss surgeries. So many people end up having problems with those because they didn't learn to listen to their bodies or how to retrain their brains as needed. There is a push for so many of these things to be considered miracle solutions, when what they are is effective tools to help. Yes, some people get surgery or take meds and have fixed the problem for the rest of their lives - but it seems that the vast majority of people don't get the other pieces of the puzzle and end up back where they started (or close). |
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 4, 2024 23:06:54 GMT
I can see it being used to help lower ones weight while also doing intense therapy to work on the food issues. But these social media, celeb pushed weight loss drugs are more harmful than good for so many. A friend was on it for 3 months and after several pancreatitis and Gastroparesis had to stop. All of her weight plus more came back because the med stopped the food talk in her head. So she was loosing weight yeah but at what cost?! I suspect that for a lot of people, it ends up being like having lap bands/various weight loss surgeries. So many people end up having problems with those because they didn't learn to listen to their bodies or how to retrain their brains as needed. There is a push for so many of these things to be considered miracle solutions, when what they are is effective tools to help. Yes, some people get surgery or take meds and have fixed the problem for the rest of their lives - but it seems that the vast majority of people don't get the other pieces of the puzzle and end up back where they started (or close). I lost a good friend 5+ years ago due to lap band surgery. She had a lot of complications and it ultimately took her life. |
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Post by alsomsknit on Jul 4, 2024 23:22:46 GMT
Mayim Bailik (sp?) has a recent podcast with a guy who has studied Ozempic. He is a user of the med and has decided the benefits outweigh the risks. It was quite interesting!
Curious to see where this goes with vision loss.
TFS!
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Post by peasapie on Jul 5, 2024 0:10:55 GMT
My primary care doctor has been on my butt to take weight loss drugs. I keep telling her no. My psychiatrist was a resounding no. What I can't understand is why people would be so willing to take drugs that impact their brain function if they don't have to. There is so much about the brain we don't know. I have to take 4 different mental health drugs to control my very severe bipolar disorder. I know exactly the extent to which these things work on the mind and if I didn't need them to function like a halfway decent neurotypical person, there's no way I'd take drugs that affect my brain. I know I am already at much higher risk of dementia because we know decades of antipsychotic use raises the chances of it developing. I want to see what the long term effects of these drugs are too. I feel like media is making these drugs out to be a wonder cure. I don't judge you for taking them, but I feel like there has got to be a better way. I know two people with pre existing medicated mental health issues that were unable to take these meds due to negative reactions. But there are also many people being helped by them. (My cousin lost 100 lbs and her diabetes is completely cleared, for example.) it’s a case by case basis, but not a wonder cure. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 5, 2024 0:27:38 GMT
My primary care doctor has been on my butt to take weight loss drugs. I keep telling her no. My psychiatrist was a resounding no. What I can't understand is why people would be so willing to take drugs that impact their brain function if they don't have to. There is so much about the brain we don't know. I have to take 4 different mental health drugs to control my very severe bipolar disorder. I know exactly the extent to which these things work on the mind and if I didn't need them to function like a halfway decent neurotypical person, there's no way I'd take drugs that affect my brain. I know I am already at much higher risk of dementia because we know decades of antipsychotic use raises the chances of it developing. I want to see what the long term effects of these drugs are too. I feel like media is making these drugs out to be a wonder cure. I don't judge you for taking them, but I feel like there has got to be a better way. I know two people with pre existing medicated mental health issues that were unable to take these meds due to negative reactions. But there are also many people being helped by them. (My cousin lost 100 lbs and her diabetes is completely cleared, for example.) it’s a case by case basis, but not a wonder cure. That's exactly what my psychiatrist said her experience has been with other patients trying them. She has seen several adverse reactions and she is like, you are just too sensitive to every little thing. |
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Post by Zee on Jul 5, 2024 1:19:39 GMT
It's a chance I'm willing to take to no longer have the cravings, the blood sugar issues, the hormonal roller coaster.
As for the comments about "re-training the brain", this is a metabolic issue for me that I never knew could be controlled other than by having the sheer willpower to feel like I'm starving most of the time. No need to tell me about how to not eat. It's the only reason I've never gotten above 170 lbs because if I gave in to every craving I'd be more like 3-400 lbs.
I can do that, and have done it since these issues started with my gestational diabetes. Thirty years. But it's a miserable existence and I no longer have to live that way.
Lots of things are going to kill me eventually but in the meantime if I can feel this good I'm going to continue to use this tool as long as I can afford it.
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Post by annie on Jul 5, 2024 14:45:47 GMT
It's a chance I'm willing to take to no longer have the cravings, the blood sugar issues, the hormonal roller coaster. As for the comments about "re-training the brain", this is a metabolic issue for me that I never knew could be controlled other than by having the sheer willpower to feel like I'm starving most of the time. No need to tell me about how to not eat. It's the only reason I've never gotten above 170 lbs because if I gave in to every craving I'd be more like 3-400 lbs. I can do that, and have done it since these issues started with my gestational diabetes. Thirty years. But it's a miserable existence and I no longer have to live that way. Lots of things are going to kill me eventually but in the meantime if I can feel this good I'm going to continue to use this tool as long as I can afford it. Well said. I guess I'm shocked about all the negativity that remains surrounding Ozempic, Zepbound, etc. These are FDA approved drugs with mostly very manageable side effects. (Yes, there are a rare cases of worse side effects like all other medications.) So if you don't want to take them, of course don't take them! But I am shocked at all the judgement online (here as well) and in person about what is frankly nearly a miracle in the fight against obesity. I'm over it and will defend people up and down who are trying these methods. It is not the "lazy" way out. It is a tool being used to finally almost level the playing field with those who have never dealt with constant food noise, inability to lose despite doing allll the right things, etc. Again, FDA APPROVED for weight loss. Not a copout. My disclaimer: I was a non-responder to Semaglutide (Ozempic). Didn't work. So I tried Tirzepatide (Zepbound) and have very slowly lost 35 lbs. I have 20 to go and don't care how long it takes me. Besides the weight loss, tirz has caused other fantastic side effects: My blood work is pristine after struggling with high cholesterol. My daily aches are nearly gone due to the reduction in inflammation which is a positive effect for many. I have a great relationship with food since I'm not constantly thinking about it anymore. I will now live longer thanks to all this. I am happy about that and so is my family. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 5, 2024 15:25:22 GMT
I have been hearing about the positive effects of these meds (including on mental health, heart health, cholesterol, etc), particularly in regards to microdosing, and have been interested in trying them lately but can't afford it. Chalene Johnson recently did a podcast episode with a doctor who talks about this. She said many of the side effects are occurring in people who are taking higher doses and hopes that there is a more individualized approach to dosing in the future. I hope they study the possible side effects more and also how it relates to dosage.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 5, 2024 16:08:28 GMT
So if you don't want to take them, of course don't take them! But I am shocked at all the judgement online (here as well) and in person about what is frankly nearly a miracle in the fight against obesity. I'm over it and will defend people up and down who are trying these methods. It is not the "lazy" way out. It is a tool being used to finally almost level the playing field with those who have never dealt with constant food noise, inability to lose despite doing allll the right things, etc. Again, FDA APPROVED for weight loss. Not a copout. What I don't understand is why having an opinion and discussing pluses and minuses is seen as judging. Never in a million years would I use the word lazy. I struggle with my weight too. A lot. And I'm about as far from lazy as it gets. But I, and my psychiatrist, have very real concerns about this. So much so, that although physically I would probably benefit from these drugs, my mental health makes me very scared of them. You can feel free to share all the information you want on your choice, but other people questioning whether that choice makes sense for them and concluding it doesn't, is not being offensive and judgmental. I haven't seen a single person here use the word lazy in regard to weight loss drugs. |
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Post by jayfab on Jul 5, 2024 20:12:44 GMT
It's a chance I'm willing to take to no longer have the cravings, the blood sugar issues, the hormonal roller coaster. As for the comments about "re-training the brain", this is a metabolic issue for me that I never knew could be controlled other than by having the sheer willpower to feel like I'm starving most of the time. No need to tell me about how to not eat. It's the only reason I've never gotten above 170 lbs because if I gave in to every craving I'd be more like 3-400 lbs. I can do that, and have done it since these issues started with my gestational diabetes. Thirty years. But it's a miserable existence and I no longer have to live that way. Lots of things are going to kill me eventually but in the meantime if I can feel this good I'm going to continue to use this tool as long as I can afford it. Same here. I was killing myself with food. I feel surgery and Sema have literally saved my life. All meds have a risk. ETA: I am 4'10" and was 236. Even with surgery and Sema it's taken me 4 years to get to 119. But here I am. Happy. Still on depression meds(which are also for fibro pain) but not MISERABLE every damn day like I was. I hated myself more than I can ever say. So for me a lot was not just medical but mental. Hate for yourself is a horrible feeling and it feels sooooo good to not feel like that anymore. So it's a risk that I'll take. |
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Post by jayfab on Jul 5, 2024 20:25:51 GMT
It's a chance I'm willing to take to no longer have the cravings, the blood sugar issues, the hormonal roller coaster. As for the comments about "re-training the brain", this is a metabolic issue for me that I never knew could be controlled other than by having the sheer willpower to feel like I'm starving most of the time. No need to tell me about how to not eat. It's the only reason I've never gotten above 170 lbs because if I gave in to every craving I'd be more like 3-400 lbs. I can do that, and have done it since these issues started with my gestational diabetes. Thirty years. But it's a miserable existence and I no longer have to live that way. Lots of things are going to kill me eventually but in the meantime if I can feel this good I'm going to continue to use this tool as long as I can afford it. Well said. I guess I'm shocked about all the negativity that remains surrounding Ozempic, Zepbound, etc. These are FDA approved drugs with mostly very manageable side effects. (Yes, there are a rare cases of worse side effects like all other medications.) So if you don't want to take them, of course don't take them! But I am shocked at all the judgement online (here as well) and in person about what is frankly nearly a miracle in the fight against obesity. I'm over it and will defend people up and down who are trying these methods. It is not the "lazy" way out. It is a tool being used to finally almost level the playing field with those who have never dealt with constant food noise, inability to lose despite doing allll the right things, etc. Again, FDA APPROVED for weight loss. Not a copout. My disclaimer: I was a non-responder to Semaglutide (Ozempic). Didn't work. So I tried Tirzepatide (Zepbound) and have very slowly lost 35 lbs. I have 20 to go and don't care how long it takes me. Besides the weight loss, tirz has caused other fantastic side effects: My blood work is pristine after struggling with high cholesterol. My daily aches are nearly gone due to the reduction in inflammation which is a positive effect for many. I have a great relationship with food since I'm not constantly thinking about it anymore. I will now live longer thanks to all this. I am happy about that and so is my family. It is definitely not the easy way out no matter what some say. Glad it's working for you too! |
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Post by annie on Jul 5, 2024 21:00:47 GMT
So if you don't want to take them, of course don't take them! But I am shocked at all the judgement online (here as well) and in person about what is frankly nearly a miracle in the fight against obesity. I'm over it and will defend people up and down who are trying these methods. It is not the "lazy" way out. It is a tool being used to finally almost level the playing field with those who have never dealt with constant food noise, inability to lose despite doing allll the right things, etc. Again, FDA APPROVED for weight loss. Not a copout. What I don't understand is why having an opinion and discussing pluses and minuses is seen as judging. Never in a million years would I use the word lazy. I struggle with my weight too. A lot. And I'm about as far from lazy as it gets. But I, and my psychiatrist, have very real concerns about this. So much so, that although physically I would probably benefit from these drugs, my mental health makes me very scared of them. You can feel free to share all the information you want on your choice, but other people questioning whether that choice makes sense for them and concluding it doesn't, is not being offensive and judgmental. I haven't seen a single person here use the word lazy in regard to weight loss drugs. I can tell you felt as if I was specifically targeting you with my comments, which I was not. I'm mostly referring to relentless comments I see on social media using those terms and also family members of mine. 2peas does a much better job discussing pluses and minuses, yes. However, I went back up the thread and you did say, "I feel like media is making these drugs out to be a wonder cure. I don't judge you for taking them, but I feel like there has got to be a better way." But, isn't that sort of a judgement on your part? Saying there has got to be a better way? And saying media is calling these a " wonder cure"? Someone else up above said, "But these social media, celeb pushed weight loss drugs are more harmful than good for so many." Another rather denigrating comment because of the choice of wording " celeb pushed" (like I am taking the advice of celebrities instead of my doctor??) and " more harmful than good". Maybe you all don't intend these comments to be taken in a judgmental way, but that's how I did take them. For you, perhaps there is a better way!! And I 100% respect your choice to not use them. My doctor and I feel good about my choice. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 5, 2024 22:30:36 GMT
What I don't understand is why having an opinion and discussing pluses and minuses is seen as judging. Never in a million years would I use the word lazy. I struggle with my weight too. A lot. And I'm about as far from lazy as it gets. But I, and my psychiatrist, have very real concerns about this. So much so, that although physically I would probably benefit from these drugs, my mental health makes me very scared of them. You can feel free to share all the information you want on your choice, but other people questioning whether that choice makes sense for them and concluding it doesn't, is not being offensive and judgmental. I haven't seen a single person here use the word lazy in regard to weight loss drugs. I can tell you felt as if I was specifically targeting you with my comments, which I was not. I'm mostly referring to relentless comments I see on social media using those terms and also family members of mine. 2peas does a much better job discussing pluses and minuses, yes. However, I went back up the thread and you did say, "I feel like media is making these drugs out to be a wonder cure. I don't judge you for taking them, but I feel like there has got to be a better way." But, isn't that sort of a judgement on your part? Saying there has got to be a better way? And saying media is calling these a " wonder cure"? Someone else up above said, "But these social media, celeb pushed weight loss drugs are more harmful than good for so many." Another rather denigrating comment because of the choice of wording " celeb pushed" (like I am taking the advice of celebrities instead of my doctor??) and " more harmful than good". Maybe you all don't intend these comments to be taken in a judgmental way, but that's how I did take them. For you, perhaps there is a better way!! And I 100% respect your choice to not use them. My doctor and I feel good about my choice. Wait, what? I spoke up because I was a participant on a thread where I didn't see anyone say, Well, gee, Annie must be lazy, taking the easy way out on weight loss but that's what you read and accused everyone here of. I speak up when I think something is way out in left field and not a single person meant a hurtful thing toward you or anyone else. I am not here to hurt anyone's feelings and what I read in your post is that someone is criticizing you and it's bothering you but it isn't us. That wasn't what was happening here. This was a thread about a pretty serious adverse affect that was in the media and then the conversation went toward other concerns/side effects/adverse effects. I didn't feel targeted by you, I felt a general criticism of everyone here and I speak up when I think something is wrong. And most especially when I feel like my intention and the intention of others has been completely misunderstood. I'm sorry you felt judged. I'm like 99.8% certain, not a single pea on this thread thinks any less of you on the basis of this choice. I certainly do not. |
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Post by Zee on Jul 5, 2024 23:02:00 GMT
There is definitely a judgemental tone from some and, I get it. If you've never seen both sides it's easier to judge. But I also am not going to worry about it. I'm quite open with everyone IRL that asked about my weight loss and I regret nothing.
I will be the first to admit that while it's not "the easy way out" for everyone, it most definitely is FOR ME. Easy like Sunday morning. Those cravings and metabolic issues are gone and along with it, the weight. I didn't have to do anything special at all. I felt like how my naturally-thin mother has obviously felt her whole life. Now I get it. She'll never "get it" the way I do because she's only ever been on one side of the fence. I'm not starving myself, I'm eating what my body requires. I maintain this weight on the lowest dose of the med. I just don't need to eat much.
My body chemistry has given me nothing but issues my entire adult life (not just weight, but the whole cascade of things that go along with hormonal/metabolic issues, like with PCOS). Now there is finally something I can do about it and it absolutely is just that easy for me now.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 5, 2024 23:15:23 GMT
Every medication has side effects. Like I said upthread, you and your doctor need to decide if the benefits outweigh the side effects. Obesity will shorten your life. I myself need to lose weight. I applaud those of you who are trying to get it under control, whether you are taking medication for that or not. It's hard work to lose weight. Something I very much need to do. I have had success before with weight watchers and with the Mediterranean diet. But I always fall off the wagon and stress eat. It's hard.
I do not take medication for that. I'm not saying I never will. But at this point in time, I'm not going there. However, this is such a personal decision. If you are on it, I'm cheering on your weight loss journey!
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Post by pjaye on Jul 5, 2024 23:49:35 GMT
And today's news is positive again.
It's a decent survey group with 1.6 million participants, so not one of those piddly little trials where they study 20 people and try to draw conclusions. We already know for a fact that being significantly overweight comes with plenty of risks, so controlling diabetes and reducing weight will decrease many risks more than the risk people gain from taking this class of medications.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 6, 2024 0:04:01 GMT
I will be the first to admit that while it's not "the easy way out" for everyone, it most definitely is FOR ME. Easy like Sunday morning. Those cravings and metabolic issues are gone and along with it, the weight. I didn't have to do anything special at all. I felt like how my naturally-thin mother has obviously felt her whole life. Now I get it. It’s like I’m finally able to start a race at the starting line, with everyone else, and not half a mile back, desperately trying to catch up and feeling like a failure because I’m so far behind. |
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 6, 2024 22:06:41 GMT
I will be the first to admit that while it's not "the easy way out" for everyone, it most definitely is FOR ME. Easy like Sunday morning. Those cravings and metabolic issues are gone and along with it, the weight. I didn't have to do anything special at all. I felt like how my naturally-thin mother has obviously felt her whole life. Now I get it. It’s like I’m finally able to start a race at the starting line, with everyone else, and not half a mile back, desperately trying to catch up and feeling like a failure because I’m so far behind. You are not a failure! Way to go for doing something to improve your health! Let me say that I'm not accusing anyone on this thread for doing this. But so many social media posts are attacking people for their use of this medication. Overweight people just can't win. You are fat shamed and called names (lazy, slob, fat, etc) because you need to lose weight. Then when you make a decision to do something about it, you are shamed and called names. It's almost like some people want you to stay fat so they can continue to ridicule you. |
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