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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2024 20:52:16 GMT
I’m trying to plan a move and figuring out the best way to get my cat there has been a challenge. My vet has indicated she can be given a sedative to reduce any anxiety during a plane ride. Although I hate the idea of it on principle, I think it’s a good idea if we go by plane to ensure her comfort. The problem is it won’t necessarily sedate her and I’m very concerned she’ll be her very talkative self (but in a more anxious way) for the entire plane ride. That won’t be good for her, me, or anyone around us. As someone with bad allergies (but under intense treatment targeted specifically to my cat), I also worry about anyone with allergies who may unknowingly enter a plane with a cat on it.
I’ve also thought about driving there but I have health issues that result in chronic pain. I’d have to stop and rest very often and it would require many overnight stays. It would get very expensive and I don’t have an unlimited budget. I’d also be alone as my partner doesn’t have the luxury of taking forever to get to our new destination due to work commitments.
I know there are animal transport services out there but I can’t fathom doing that to her. She was a surrender and lived with two different foster parents before I adopted her because she’s so vocal and everyone was working at home during that time. When I brought her to university she literally climbed up my leg and wrapped her arms around my neck when I tried to set her down in the apartment to get her cat tree because she thought I was leaving her. I know I have to get her there, but I don’t want her feeling like I’ve abandoned her.
I feel so conflicted. I don’t know what I should do. Has anyone moved cross country with a cat? What would you do?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 3, 2024 20:58:49 GMT
I've done it twice - but luckily our cat handled his crate just fine. We just paid the pet fee and took him in the cabin. I think we had to show rabies as well, it's been a while. He hung under the seat and didn't cause any problems. Airlines must have protocols for those with allergies as there are so, so many "service" animals on planes now. I'm not sure how those with allergies deal with it. I think our last domestic flight must have had 4-5 dogs on it and several other animals in crates. Our newer cat is less chill and when we brought our puppy into the home we used some kind of pheromone spray the vet recommended for calming. Said they use it all the time for boarding and for cats who struggle with vet visits. Perhaps you can try using something like that and acclimating her to carrier so that she won't be disruptive.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 3, 2024 21:10:42 GMT
Sorry. this probably is not helpful.. Check with LexicaNot cross country but up the west coast.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2024 21:18:23 GMT
I think our last domestic flight must have had 4-5 dogs on it and several other animals in crates….Our newer cat is less chill and when we brought our puppy into the home we used some kind of pheromone spray…Perhaps you can try using something like that and acclimating her to carrier so that she won't be disruptive. Wow! I didn’t realize how many animals routinely fly in the cabin nowadays. I’m going to try out the pheromone spray and see how she reacts. I’ve tried to get this kitty acclimated to her carrier by leaving it out with a soft comfy pillow or mat inside but she is highly resistant to confinement. She also doesn’t care for treats and isn’t food motivated, so I can’t entice her inside. It’s a struggle.
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Post by Linda on Jul 3, 2024 21:42:37 GMT
Years ago I moved from AZ to FL with three cats in carriers in a Penske truck (to clarify - they were up front with the three of us in the passenger section)...two of them were chill, the third cried pretty much the whole way across the country.
More recently my kids moved their cats from our house in FL to theirs in VA - again they were in carriers - softsided ones rather than our hard-sided - and it was a one day drive rather than several days. One of theirs was chill and napped. The other one complained for the first several hours - he was still a kitten...maybe 7months or so. They were both shelter kitties that we fostered for our kids for a couple of months until they could collect them.
Good luck with the move. I hope the pheromone spray helps and if you do try the sedative, see if your vet will let you test her with it in advance just to make sure she does okay with it. How long a flight will it be?
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Post by hopemax on Jul 3, 2024 21:50:41 GMT
I accompanied my Dad from WA State, near the I-5 / Canada border to Orlando with a cat. My Dad acclimated the cat to the car, but she had absolutely no inclination about acclimating to her carrier. When we actually did the drive, the carrier was the place she wanted to be. Hotel room - hated it! Once in the car - no where else she wanted to be.
I suspect that the cat won't be talkative, during a plane ride, and will do their best to be as hidden and inconspicuous as possible. So with the sedative it will be okay. You might consider a late night flight, if that is an option. The airplane may not be as full, and they turn down the cabin lights so people can sleep.
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Post by Lexica on Jul 3, 2024 22:33:21 GMT
I moved my three cats and small dog from California to Oregon recently. Since I had multiple cats, I needed to drive rather than fly. Like you, I also deal with chronic pain when sitting in the car, both as a driver and passenger. Knowing how difficult it would be for me on my own, I paid for the flights for my son to come to California to get us and drive us to Oregon. To make the trip easier on me, I used my TENS unit for much longer than recommended, but it was worth it to me to lessen the pain. I also took more of my pain medication since I wasn’t going to be doing any of the driving. I had saved up some pain pills over many months to be able to have extra for the trip. And I told my doctor what I was doing, taking extra for the couple of days of driving, and he was fine with it. I purchased two of these expanding, large cat carriers and put a small litter box at one end and put food and water in bowls that clipped to the metal door at the other end. I put sibling kitties in one carrier and the newest addition in his own carrier. Since the carriers were so big, I was able to easily fit two cat beds in the one housing the siblings, although they ended up smooshing together into one bed like they would do at home sometimes. At least they had the option of their own bed. Normally my cats would meow almost constantly in the car in their small pet carriers. I used to take them with me to visit my sister and they cried throughout the two-hour drive. But on the drive to Oregon, they didn’t make a sound. I attributed that to a few things. The bigger carrier with food, water, and litter box allowed them to move around. I also sprayed the inside of the carrier and their beds with Feliway spray to help them relax. And finally, I think having my son in the car was odd to them so they remained quiet and just watched him. My vet did prescribe something to make them drowsy, but I didn’t use it because they traveled so well. Since I had three cats and the dog, I only brought the dog in the hotel rooms. I had my son park my car directly in front of the hotel room so I could check on the cats frequently. I was able to clean the cat boxes and refill their food and water from each end of the cage easily. And they didn’t try to get out when I opened the door to add food, so I was able to reach in and brush them and pet them a bit whenever we stopped. And every time I went outside to check on the cats during the night, they were all curled up asleep. It ended up being so much easier to transport them than I feared. Do you have a friend or family member that would make the drive with you? Having my son drive us made the trip so much easier for me. I was anticipating me being in pain and the cats crying the whole trip. But it was all amazingly easy. I just cuddled my dog on my lap, which he could easily do 24/7 if he could. He had been taught to go potty on command, so I just had him go or at least try at every rest stop. I don’t know if any of this would work for your trip, but for us, it was so nice and peaceful. www.chewy.com/sport-pet-dog-cat-car-seat-crate/dp/285735
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 3, 2024 22:36:19 GMT
Military families move their pets with them when they PCS. And, as others have stated above, there are lots of people who travel with cats.
It really sounds like flying would be best for you. Your kitty probably won’t like it, but it will be over much quicker than a multi day car trip. Try the pills and/or spray ahead of time to see how she reacts. And just make up your mind to get through it as best as you can. Animals aren’t allowed out of their carriers on an airplane, so any allergens are contained.
A pet shipper is another option, but that’s thousands of dollars. It would be cheaper to pay for a second ticket for a helper if you need assistance vs using a shipper.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 3, 2024 23:34:52 GMT
I think I would choose flying. It is quicker and would be all over less traumatizing for the cat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2024 0:40:52 GMT
linda Thank you for the good luck wishes! The flight is about 5.5 hours. We are also looking into the possibly of doing the truck thing if my partner gets the time off and I can manage symptoms along the way. If he gets limited time he might drive our belongings and I’ll fly with kitty. hopemax Good point about my cat possibly doing her best to stay inconspicuous and hidden. Flying at night is also a good idea! Lexica Thank you so much for the pain management tips! I have a tens unit and lidocaine patches. I’ll also have a conversation with my doctor about short term dosing for the move. My partner is trying to get more time off and I suspect they may give him time as they’re aware of my medical status. Also thank you so much for linking that carrier and explaining your setup! basket1lady You have a good point about making up my mind that I’ll get through through it and reminding myself it’s temporary if she decides to voice her displeasure. I think I’ll give her a trial dose to see how she reacts too.
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Post by Ryann on Jul 4, 2024 1:15:20 GMT
Lexica Thank you so much for the pain management tips! I have a tens unit and lidocaine patches. I’ll also have a conversation with my doctor about short term dosing for the move. My partner is trying to get more time off and I suspect they may give him time as they’re aware of my medical status. Also thank you so much for linking that carrier and explaining your setup! We drove from WA to CA over two days last summer, and used the same carrier Lexica used for our cat. I bought it from Amazon and it arrived with the plastic end pieces broken - so be sure to open it up before you go to use. The replacement arrived in time and unbroken, and worked well for the duration of the drive. We brought our cat into the hotel room with us each night using our typical cat carrier that we transferred her into at the end of each day's drive. We let her "loose" in the hotel room each night. She typically hid under the bed (which made it fun to get her back into her crate when it was time to leave). We had contemplated flying, but we thought her being in such close proximity to other people would have been harder for her. She doesn't like anyone but us, so driving with only our sounds/smells felt like it would be easier for her. She was miserable and hated the entire experience. Even with anxiety meds provided by our vet. She spent a lot of time crying, and most of the drive laying in her cat box. She has adjusted to her new home pretty quickly and is once again a very happy cat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2024 2:40:29 GMT
We had contemplated flying, but we thought her being in such close proximity to other people would have been harder for her. She doesn't like anyone but us, so driving with only our sounds/smells felt like it would be easier for her. She was miserable and hated the entire experience. Even with anxiety meds provided by our vet. She spent a lot of time crying, and most of the drive laying in her cat box. She has adjusted to her new home pretty quickly and is once again a very happy cat. I’m glad she’s adjusted well! You’ve given me food for thought as I contemplate the best course of action here. Considering this perspective and that of Lurkingpea and a few others, flying may be the way to go. I keep going back and forth but I obviously have to make a decision eventually.
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Post by scrappinwithoutpeas on Jul 4, 2024 3:42:13 GMT
When my middle DD moved cross-country, she drove but there were way too many stops for her to consider taking her cat along on the drive. They took extra time to stop at places like Yellowstone, and she definitely didn't have the $$ to seek out pet-friendly hotel rooms all the way cross country (Northern VA to WA state). So after she was settled in, DS and I flew with her cat. I was very worried about it because her cat is pretty high-anxiety and has to be sedated just for regular vet visits. Things that helped were: * Called the airline well ahead of time and got recommendations on rules & regs, what to expect when flying with a cat, the whole 9 yards. I lucked out and got a rep who was very knowledgeable and took the time to explain everything step by step. We had to get a new soft-side carrier, as our original one was too big (check your airline sizing rules). We also had to buy business class seats for extra room (required by our airline for flying with pet in carrier). * One of the most important things (for us at least) to know in advance was that TSA WILL have you take the pet out of the carrier when going through security so they can scan & search the carrier by itself. It really helped us to prepare for this in advance because DD's cat is a runner and I had visions of being the crazy cat lady running through the airport after a loose black cat (yeah, the cat was not the only one who was anxious about the trip LOL). Anyway, we asked if they could take us to an enclosed space to hold the cat while they scanned her carrier and they took us to a nearby storage closet (think janitor's/maintenance closet) and let us hold her there while they scanned the carrier. They were very quick about it and we each only got 1 scratch for our trouble of holding her in place and not letting her run around and hide under the boxes in the storage closet. * We had already been using the sedative (gabapentin (sp?)) for her vet visits so we knew she tolerated it well, how much to give, etc. Highly recommend trying both the pheromone spray and the sedative (separately) to see how your cat tolerates each. DD's cat absolutely hated the pheromone spray and got extremely agitated around it ; she would not go anywhere near where it had been sprayed. But she was fine with the sedative, which we gave her just before leaving for the airport (10 min drive for us). * We lined the carrier with a couple of doggie training pads just in case there were any accidents. Glad we did as she ended up with a tiny bit of "euphemistic tummy upset" near the very end of the flight and it contained/absorbed the little bit of mess. * We were worried that she'd annoy other passengers around us with her loud meowing, which she tends to do when in new situations, or when agitated, or when in the carrier...you get the idea. She did that when we first boarded the plan and put her carrier under the seat, but as soon as the engines started the interior noise completely masked any cat yowling. * As soon as the 3rd person in our row boarded we checked to make sure she had no cat allergies. She did not and it was fine. * DD's cat did fine on the flight, settled in to drowse once we got going (and the sedative kicked in LOL), but had a little bit of tummy upset when there was some turbulence near the end of the flight. We took her to a "pet relief station" as soon as we deplaned and got things cleaned up (nothing major).
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Post by librarylady on Jul 4, 2024 15:26:28 GMT
We did back in the 1970s. Cat carriers were not a thing then. The cat traveled in my car made the trip hiding under the driver's seat. He would not use the litter box until we stopped for the night in a motel. He cried for the first hour or so.
When we moved back 2 years later, he did the same thing.
I'm glad you are flying and hope your cat makes the trip OK.
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Post by sean&marysmommy on Jul 5, 2024 2:49:11 GMT
We've done it twice, but I'm no help b/c we drove. Our cat did fine...a little bit of meowing for the first 30 min. or so, but then he'd settle down and sleep most of the day as we drove. He wouldn't eat or use a litter box until we got to our hotel each evening, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2024 7:12:16 GMT
When my middle DD moved cross-country, she drove but there were way too many stops for her to consider taking her cat along on the drive. They took extra time to stop at places like Yellowstone, and she definitely didn't have the $$ to seek out pet-friendly hotel rooms all the way cross country (Northern VA to WA state). So after she was settled in, DS and I flew with her cat. I was very worried about it because her cat is pretty high-anxiety and has to be sedated just for regular vet visits. Things that helped were: * Called the airline well ahead of time and got recommendations on rules & regs, what to expect when flying with a cat, the whole 9 yards. I lucked out and got a rep who was very knowledgeable and took the time to explain everything step by step. We had to get a new soft-side carrier, as our original one was too big (check your airline sizing rules). We also had to buy business class seats for extra room (required by our airline for flying with pet in carrier). * One of the most important things (for us at least) to know in advance was that TSA WILL have you take the pet out of the carrier when going through security so they can scan & search the carrier by itself. It really helped us to prepare for this in advance because DD's cat is a runner and I had visions of being the crazy cat lady running through the airport after a loose black cat (yeah, the cat was not the only one who was anxious about the trip LOL). Anyway, we asked if they could take us to an enclosed space to hold the cat while they scanned her carrier and they took us to a nearby storage closet (think janitor's/maintenance closet) and let us hold her there while they scanned the carrier. They were very quick about it and we each only got 1 scratch for our trouble of holding her in place and not letting her run around and hide under the boxes in the storage closet. * We had already been using the sedative (gabapentin (sp?)) for her vet visits so we knew she tolerated it well, how much to give, etc. Highly recommend trying both the pheromone spray and the sedative (separately) to see how your cat tolerates each. DD's cat absolutely hated the pheromone spray and got extremely agitated around it ; she would not go anywhere near where it had been sprayed. But she was fine with the sedative, which we gave her just before leaving for the airport (10 min drive for us). * We lined the carrier with a couple of doggie training pads just in case there were any accidents. Glad we did as she ended up with a tiny bit of "euphemistic tummy upset" near the very end of the flight and it contained/absorbed the little bit of mess. * We were worried that she'd annoy other passengers around us with her loud meowing, which she tends to do when in new situations, or when agitated, or when in the carrier...you get the idea. She did that when we first boarded the plan and put her carrier under the seat, but as soon as the engines started the interior noise completely masked any cat yowling. * As soon as the 3rd person in our row boarded we checked to make sure she had no cat allergies. She did not and it was fine. * DD's cat did fine on the flight, settled in to drowse once we got going (and the sedative kicked in LOL), but had a little bit of tummy upset when there was some turbulence near the end of the flight. We took her to a "pet relief station" as soon as we deplaned and got things cleaned up (nothing major). This is all so very helpful. Thank you so much!
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Post by hop2 on Jul 5, 2024 10:18:01 GMT
Practice with the cat in the carrier. get the cat in & out and move the carrier with them in it as often as you can.
You might find out that the cat will stress poo an explosive poo.
My DD took her cat out there in a vehicle in a crate and brought her back for Christmas in a carrier on a plane both went ok. She only had 1 over night.
In the car she needed a litter box inside the crate becase they found out on the test run the did she explosive stress poo’d so it was good to have done the test run.
DD had no issues after the test run. Thankfully
USE the sedative. Just do it. Don’t wait until your cat is too stressed to administer it. Administer it as directed when the vet says to.
If your cat is fussy or crying they will throw you off the plane. It varies by cabin crew. My DD was talking to her cat IN the gate seating area while seated thru the closed mesh with the carrier totally zippered shut with the zipper flaps on over the closed zippers & a crew member randomly came up to her & told her if the cat couldn’t handle it she would not be allowed on the airplane! The carrier was completely closed she was just speaking to the cat softly & quietly thru the mesh to reassure the cat she was there. They did let DD on the plane and everything went fine I guess this crew person wasn’t having a good day or something. But just be wary of 🤷♀️ I guess being too attentive to your cat at the gate or whatever? This did not happen on DD’s fight back so who knows what the issue was.
Good luck with your move.
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Post by gryroagain on Jul 5, 2024 20:05:20 GMT
I’ve moved cats all over the world.
For cars, I put them in a dog crate with a litter box and room to move around. They howl the whole way 😂 but generally have a more comfy trip than the people. I carry them in hotels for the night IN the crate to ensure no one escapes.
Or planes done in luggage and carry on. Don’t worry about noise, planes are loud. I can assure you that while you may hear your cat meowing the people around you won’t. Every time I’ve flown with a cat the people around me are surprised to see me with the carrier when we get off.
Be sure to have updated vaccines and a harness for TSA.
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Post by FurryP on Jul 5, 2024 20:46:05 GMT
@petscrapper....please of all the suggestions, please take the one about taking all precautions for your cat not getting loose ,the most seriously. I am not a cat person, but I am a person that wants NO pet to get lost. They rely on us to take care of them.
Did you read the Pea post about her cat that made a run for it in the middle of the US when their dad opened the crate to give food/water? YES. That cat was lost for about a week and was only found with the locals' help. Don't let that be your baby.
And as far as your cat meowing on the plane. Well honestly, we have to listen to children crying, we can listen to a cat, too. How is that any different? Good luck!
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Post by needmysanity on Jul 6, 2024 19:35:47 GMT
I can tell you NOT the way to do it My best friend moved 7...yes 7 cats from California to Tennessee. They put up a net in the very back of their Ford SUV and the cats were supposed to stay back there. They were smart, figured out out to manipulate the net and ended up all over the car. Night one they attempted to sneak them into a hotel, the cats were freaking out after being the the car all day and just bounced all the walls for hours. After that, one of them would sleep in the car with the cats while the other slept in the hotel. It took them 5 days to do the drive because more than once they had to stop, round up the cats and put them back in the netted section. At one stop they lost a cat for a few hours. All cats made it to TN but it was a miserable experience for everyone involved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 21:21:18 GMT
Thank you so very much to everyone for your advice. I’m on mobile and can’t tag everyone right now, but I’m taking all the advice here to heart and I appreciate your input. My cat’s best interest is always of utmost concern to me and I wholeheartedly appreciate any advice that helps me achieve and maintain her wellbeing during a difficult move.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 6, 2024 21:48:12 GMT
@petscrapper ....please of all the suggestions, please take the one about taking all precautions for your cat not getting loose ,the most seriously. I am not a cat person, but I am a person that wants NO pet to get lost. They rely on us to take care of them. Did you read the Pea post about her cat that made a run for it in the middle of the US when their dad opened the crate to give food/water? YES. That cat was lost for about a week and was only found with the locals' help. Don't let that be your baby. And as far as your cat meowing on the plane. Well honestly, we have to listen to children crying, we can listen to a cat, too. How is that any different? Good luck! This x100. I’ve heard of more than one military family who has had this happen to them. All animals in the vehicle should be secured before opening a door every time.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Jul 7, 2024 21:36:11 GMT
My husband moved before I did with our daughter and we ended up taking two different plane flights to take each cat out there (daughter and I took one cat over our spring break and I made one extra trip with the other). We did get medication from the vet to help with any anxiety and they rode under the seat (I got the extra legroom seats). Pee pads in the carrier, food, water, etc. At TSA you have to take your cat out of the carrier so it can go through the machine - you can request a private screening, so you can go in a room where you can close the door to make sure your cat doesn't escape. The plane ride was fine - one of them didn't like all the noise in the airport (I used a blanket over carrier). There will be pet relief areas in the airport if you want to offer them a place to go to the bathroom (I carried a little bit of litter and some kind of collapsible tray/box).
It wasn't an option for us to take the cat when we drove because we were doing an extended trip on our cross country drive.
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