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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 7, 2024 14:33:36 GMT
Oh gawd, smoking..... When we were in Year 12, in 1985, we were allowed to smoke at school, but only in the Year 12 block so the younger kids couldn't see us. I mean, we'd been smoking in the toilets and on the oval since Year 8, so I guess the teachers figured it was a losing battle. They allowed kids to smoke at our high school.
I forgot all about that, maybe because I never did smoke. Our high school also had a whole smoking area for the students. Wild that that was even a thing.
Today is day #83 that I have not had a cigarette. It's hard. It's still hard. I still want to smoke.
That's wonderful! You're putting in some real work.
Speaking of tans, we’d slather up with baby oil & lie in our backyard in the hottest part of the day on our silver reflective blankets to get tans. Sometimes our moms would lie out there with us. I remember my neighbor’s mom using that Hawaiian Tropic oil because we loved the smell. Oh my gosh, I forgot all about getting tans (and burnt) on purpose! Laying out on a beach towel in the hot, hot sun.
We were feral, roaming the neighborhood all day and going to anyone's house without our parents having a clue. Very true.
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SweetieBsMom
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 7, 2024 14:35:45 GMT
No seatbelts. Smoking indoors everywhere. I grew up in Boston and the freedom as a kid.....we'd leave the house in the morning and the rule was to be home before the streetlights came on. If you weren't home and Dad was whistling for you, you were in trouble. There were a bunch of us kids. Riding bikes EVERYWHERE. Some of the places we rode, I can't believe our parents let us, I'd never let DS make those rides.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 7, 2024 14:36:03 GMT
Oh, I thought of another. Going to sleepovers. Several times a week, just calling from a neighborhood kid's house, and spending the night. No parents grilling the other parents about gun safety, or anything. Parents were just glad to have a night "off."
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 7, 2024 14:44:43 GMT
No seatbelts. Smoking indoors everywhere. I grew up in Boston and the freedom as a kid.....we'd leave the house in the morning and the rule was to be home before the streetlights came on. If you weren't home and Dad was whistling for you, you were in trouble. There were a bunch of us kids. Riding bikes EVERYWHERE. Some of the places we rode, I can't believe our parents let us, I'd never let DS make those rides. It's not that they "let us" about specific places we went, at least not back in my childhood. It's just that they had no idea where we were, and they never asked. We never had rules like "stay on this street" or "don't go past the school" or anything like that. We just went out and disappeared. After dinner we did have the "come home when the streetlights come on" rule, so I don't think we went too far at that point. Just around the neighborhood. But during the day all bets were off.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 7, 2024 14:49:27 GMT
Research papers in highschool actually required you to go to a library and research, or at the very least find books to check out to find information. It required learning how to use a card catalog and the Dewey decimal system.
I was lucky enough to have a pretty prestigious small college in my town and we could use the library so we had a great place to research papers. And if you had parents, family or friends that worked for the college you could probably find someone to check certain ones out for you. It was also where I learned to look up old articles and find them to read on microfilm or microfiche.
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quiltz
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Post by quiltz on Jul 7, 2024 14:55:29 GMT
I was rural but had many city (church) friends. I would stay at my friend's place and we would bike all over the city, no helmets, just freedom. We would rent movies with zero supervision. Our parents would go out for dinners/functions and we would do sleepovers. High School had a smoking pit, no notes required to be there. The bathrooms had a no smoking rule that everyone followed. As I lived on a farm, I really didn't have a curfew, just knew that 8 am on Saturday I had to be ready to work for the day with a "cheerful attitude". Once I got my license, I was given a car and I had freedom. I had a job in the bank and was on my career path. Today is day #83 that I have not had a cigarette. It's hard. It's still hard. I still want to smoke. That is great news Becki, Congrats. It is very difficult. In 1978 I moved to the Niagara area as my fiance worked at a huge auto plant. I was able to get a transfer from the bank. I started to do the "over the river shopping" ever since. I have learned to speak "American" and understand "American". Also, the border only required a driver's license and we would go over for the cheap beer and cheap food. The Americans would come to Canada for our lower drinking age (It was 18 for the longest time, now & still is 19). No real questions asked.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 7, 2024 14:58:47 GMT
If you had to order something or saved up to order something special it was 6 to 8 weeks shipping time for the norm.
When a new movie came out you saw it in a theater or you didn’t see it for a long long time. I was a junior in highschool before VHS took over Betamax and more and more people could afford them. We got our first local video rental store when I was a Junior.
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Post by whipea on Jul 7, 2024 15:01:44 GMT
- Grew up in Miami and we did not lock our doors. - Dropped off unsupervised for a day at the beach, movies or at the mall with friends starting at about 10 years old. - Had a small power boat at 11 years old, main mode of transportation and went all over the Miami/Ft.Lauderdale alone or with same age friends. - Could get a license and operate a motorcycle at 15 on public roads. - Would go out to eat in restaurants, not just fast food with just friends starting at about 10-11 years old. - Dropped off at the local amusement park, "Pirate's World" for the day with friends starting at about 9 years old. The place had terrifying and dangerous rides, got closed down. - Starting at about 11 was given a budget, cash or credit card and went with friends to buy all my own school clothes, had to wear whatever I bought was the only caveat. Bought some regrettable items. - Started babysitting at 10 and overnights by 12 years old. - We we had to deal with losing, failure or things that did not go our way without parents intervening. - In college using going to the library and using books and journals for research and having to copy pages or articles to the research paper. - In college using Blue Books which were .15 each, all essay exams.
So amazing we survived, pretty much unscathed.
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Post by katlady on Jul 7, 2024 15:04:39 GMT
Latch key kids. In the late 70s I was walking home from school in first grade and home by myself for a few hours before my parents got home from work. Now kids don’t play in the front yard without parents watching. And the question is always - is there really more danger nowadays or were we just not as aware of it because no internet etc? I think the internet and 24/7 news just makes us more aware. We never knew what was happening in other cities, unless it was something really major. We only had 30 minutes of World News, and an hour of local news. Both were shown at like 6PM and then again at 10PM. I had to look it up, but seatbelts were not mandatory in California until 1986. You would think California would be one of the first, not last. I know it was in the 80’s when I went skiing and some of us were riding in the back of a van, no seats and no seatbelts. I remember our dad made a “bed” for the backseat of the car when we were kids. We would use it on long trips to sleep on while dad was driving. And one time a bunch of us kids piled into the back of a pickup truck (with a camper shell) for a ride up to Magic Mountain (amusement park) for the day. No seat belts for us. Anyone remember candy cigarettes? I would walk around thinking I was “cool” with it hanging from my mouth. And we had cap guns as kids. We had thermos’ that were made from actual glass. I don’t know how many times I would get my thermos out at lunch time, shake it and hear the broken glass inside of it.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jul 7, 2024 15:13:27 GMT
I am thinking about how it always seemed my parents didn't want us around. Unless it was raining they were like get outside. No such things as sitting indoors. I felt like they couldn't stand me. I still feel like they can't stand me. But they seemed so absorbed in their own lives, I felt like we were an intrusion. So get outside. Stay outside. They had no fucking clue where we were most of the time. I can relate to this. My Mother never wanted us around. We, especially me (I was firstborn) were the burden she was stuck with. Her getting pregnant at 17 in the mid 1960's and giving birth at the age of 18, was and still is....somehow my fault. Since the day I was conceived and her being forced to keep me (by her Mother), and forced to get married to my birth Father(lasted long enough to have a second child)......a deep-seated bitterness has always been the core of her. As the years went on...the resentfulness and bitterness grew. She is a taker and a user. I and my sisters are givers. Then more I-we gave, the more she took. In her eyes we owed her. She had no use for me, unless I was doing something for her. Her narcissism and bitterness has cause all of us to cut ties with her. When I finally cut ties, I felt like a toxic cloud lifted off of me.
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Post by canadianlinda on Jul 7, 2024 15:15:24 GMT
I remember as a ten year old going to get my Dad a couple of cigarettes at the little shop on the corner. Never questioned it because that was just the norm back then!
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Jul 7, 2024 15:22:28 GMT
Yes, the seatbelts. I remember my sister coming home from hospital in a bassinet on the back seat, unbelted. The siblings were the security devices! Had my hand gently on her chest.
We had all the diseases, mumps, measles, chicken pox, whooping cough. Except my younger brother, which landed him in hospital when he caught measles as an adult.
A number of houses were built near us when I was a kid, we had full access to the workings. No security fencing, my brother recently admitted that every new house had a sticker in the attic thanks to him and his friends.
My mum had very bad asthma in childhood, mainly due to the factory near her home. After we moved away to another area her asthma pretty much disappeared but she never let anyone smoke in the house ever.
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Post by wallyagain on Jul 7, 2024 15:27:23 GMT
So many of these resonate. How did we survive? Seatbelts were mandatory in 1977 where we lived.
I hated the smoking, my memories are being car sick all the time when someone smoked in the car. That cured me of ever wanting to smoke.
I played softball on a community team and basketball and volleyball teams in high school. Few parents came to watch unless they had to drive the team. I know I rode my bike to play ball. Parents being at the games just wasn’t a thing.
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SabrinaP
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Post by SabrinaP on Jul 7, 2024 15:28:31 GMT
Cooking and eating at home
It seems like no one cooks anymore. We definitely eat out more than either DH or I did growing up, but I know I cook more than 90% of people. I totally get it because we are so busy and working so many more hours these days. I’m totally not judging!
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 7, 2024 15:30:28 GMT
Rear facing until 1 year or 20 pounds.
Now it is 2 years and 40 pounds. Some do it still at age 3.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jul 7, 2024 15:32:06 GMT
Normal childhood stuff for me was:
Parents and others.....chain smoking.
Free range, go outside and don't coma back until dinner, then after dinner until street lights came on.
As a teenager: No curfew. Never checked with friends Mom if we were sleeping over elsewhere. I frequently babysat (often for a weekend)...not once did she meet or check with the Parents. As teens, went out of state (driving) with friends....no Parents, for a weekend. As a teen, I slept on the beach once, several times in a park, in someone's car. We weren't doing anything wrong per say, just free range ....off on our own to a waterpark, Disneyland, the lake, wandering about somewhere, etc..
In the summer between 7th and 8th grade, lived in New England. Many days of someone's Parent gave as many neighborhood kids (all ages 5-15) could go....a ride(in the back of a pickup tuck or a big station wagon) upriver and we'd raft or tube the river home. 10 miles. No Parents went. Everyone would bring a sandwich in a baggie and we'd drink river water of share a soda from the little store at the campground along the way.
We never had any limits on candy, soda, junk food, sugar, etc... intake.
Hitched-hiked several times as a child, between the ages of 10-14. If we want to go to the beach or mall....thumbs out, hitch a ride.
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Post by melanell on Jul 7, 2024 15:40:11 GMT
It's not that they "let us" about specific places we went, at least not back in my childhood. It's just that they had no idea where we were, and they never asked. We never had rules like "stay on this street" or "don't go past the school" or anything like that. We just went out and disappeared. After dinner we did have the "come home when the streetlights come on" rule, so I don't think we went too far at that point. Just around the neighborhood. But during the day all bets were off. Yep. My one neighbor (the "mom") was able to produce this incredibly loud, shrill 2 finger whistle, and it rang out throughout the neighborhood very easily. Other moms just yelled out kids' names. And you'd go home for dinner and bedtime/dark according to those calls, but otherwise we came and went where we wanted, when we wanted. In our cases, we did tend to stay probably within maybe a 6 block radius most of the time simply because there were SO many kids in that radius, along with a corner market, a shopping center, a corner market with penny candy, and 2 parks. So we didn't feel the need to go any further, most of the time. Two more blocks and we could be right in town. We did tend to tell our parents if we were going there. But otherwise, we were in the roads, the woods, backyards all over, abandoned properties, you name it. And as a kid, it was fantastically fun. We all had oodles of fresh air & exercise. We learned to mostly solve our own squabbles with one another. We learned how to deal with many other adults other than our parents. We used our imaginations and were incredibly resourceful & imaginative. I think myself, my siblings, and most of the other kids in our neighborhood had pretty idyllic childhoods in most respects. I'm still in touch with most of those kids, and for the most part, they all seem to feel the same.
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Post by melanell on Jul 7, 2024 15:41:42 GMT
I remember as a ten year old going to get my Dad a couple of cigarettes at the little shop on the corner. Never questioned it because that was just the norm back then! Yes! And back then the store kept a tab---in a little tiny notepad. So I just went down, asked them for cigarettes for my dad, and they knew what he wanted, handed it over, and I brought it home along with my penny candy.
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Post by wellway on Jul 7, 2024 15:44:07 GMT
Having to ring a friend on their landline and hoping neither of the parents answered.
Walking everywhere, unlike America, cars were owned by adults and not even all adults, so as kids and teens we walked, rode bikes or took buses to wherever we wanted to go.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jul 7, 2024 15:46:29 GMT
Speaking of tans, we’d slather up with baby oil & lie in our backyard in the hottest part of the day on our silver reflective blankets to get tans. Sometimes our moms would lie out there with us. I remember my neighbor’s mom using that Hawaiian Tropic oil because we loved the smell. When I was young, we all used what our moms used -- baby oil mixed with iodine. I'm not sure if we tanned from the sun as much as we dyed ourselves dark with the iodine. Lol. We had a smoking patio for students in my high school (I graduated in 1988). My junior high school even had a designated smoking area. I graduated in 1979. (I never smoked.) Research papers in highschool actually required you to go to a library and research, or at the very least find books to check out to find information. It required learning how to use a card catalog and the Dewey decimal system. And then you had to type the paper hoping you didn't make a mistake that whiteout couldn't cover up without looking like a hot mess. I even had to use a typewriter for my master's thesis. I can't tell you how many times I typed some of those pages over.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 7, 2024 15:48:48 GMT
I am thinking about how it always seemed my parents didn't want us around. Unless it was raining they were like get outside. No such things as sitting indoors. I felt like they couldn't stand me. I still feel like they can't stand me. But they seemed so absorbed in their own lives, I felt like we were an intrusion. So get outside. Stay outside. They had no fucking clue where we were most of the time. While I didn’t feel like my parents couldn’t stand me, the rest of this was very true. Literally from the minute we finished our breakfasts, my mom was chasing us outside. When I was a kid, I *HATED* being outside. I would much rather hole up in a corner somewhere with a book than be outside doing anything else. We had a swingset in our back yard but we didn’t have a decent playground with slides or swings anywhere close. Even the “playground” at our school was nothing more than a blacktop parking lot. There were a couple vacant lots a few blocks away and that was where we would go to play. Sometimes the older kids would start up a pickup game of baseball on the bigger open lot. My younger brother and I preferred to hang out by ourselves in the smaller one that was overgrown with crabapple trees and we would eat the crabapples from those trees until we were almost sick. I have vague memories of walking the loooong walk to kindergarten alone. It was about 3/4 of a mile from our house to the school, mostly a straight shot. She walked with me with my little brother in a stroller for the first couple weeks so I would learn the way, and after that I was on my own. There was an older kid who was a police patrol who would meet up with me a couple blocks from school and walk with me the rest of the way. I think your comment about parents being absorbed in their own lives is kind of ironic for back then since so many complain now about people constantly looking at their phones and ignoring their kids. It seems like nothing has really changed then, it’s just that people have different distractions now. So many of the other things people have posted resonate with me too, especially the nonstop smoking, ugh. I’ve always hated that and never did smoke myself as a result. Something else no one has posted yet was that for my family it was normal for my mom to always be baking something. We always had things like homemade cookies, cake, pie, apple crisp, using whatever was in season. These days it seems like nobody does and I can probably count on one hand the number of people my age and younger who know how to bake anything more than break apart cookie dough from the grocery store. People are always surprised when they’re eating something I’ve made and they’re like, “You MADE this?” 😆 In a related vein, my mom sewed a lot of our clothes back in the day too. Now no one even knows how to fix a button that popped off.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jul 7, 2024 15:49:47 GMT
And back then the store kept a tab---in a little tiny notepad. The small town I raised my boys in even had that even in the 1990s. They could charge to our family account at the hometown drugstore with the soda fountain and the local movie theater (not a chain place) for tickets & concessions.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 7, 2024 15:52:37 GMT
Not only did we sit in the back of station wagons but did so with the big back window down.
Riding in the bed of pickup trucks on the main roads. 😬
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Post by melanell on Jul 7, 2024 15:54:25 GMT
Walking everywhere, unlike America, cars were owned by adults and not even all adults, so as kids and teens we walked, rode bikes or took buses to wherever we wanted to go. No busses here, but we recently moved back into town from the rural outskirts, and my gosh, we are all enjoying being able to walk and bike places again. We can easily get to a grocery store, bank, post office, several restaurants and little shops, churches, art studio, several local schools. Walkability was a huge priority when we moved because after so many years living someplace with no walkability, we missed it so badly.
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Post by melanell on Jul 7, 2024 15:55:51 GMT
Not only did we sit in the back of station wagons but did so with the big back window down. We'd sit back there and gesture to passing tractor trailers to try to get them to honk their horns. We celebrated like mad every time we got someone to honk, and we booed and hissed when they didn't, LOL!
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 7, 2024 15:57:19 GMT
Yes, the seatbelts. I remember my sister coming home from hospital in a bassinet on the back seat, unbelted. The siblings were the security devices! Had my hand gently on her chest. We had all the diseases, mumps, measles, chicken pox, whooping cough. Except my younger brother, which landed him in hospital when he caught measles as an adult. A number of houses were built near us when I was a kid, we had full access to the workings. No security fencing, my brother recently admitted that every new house had a sticker in the attic thanks to him and his friends.My mum had very bad asthma in childhood, mainly due to the factory near her home. After we moved away to another area her asthma pretty much disappeared but she never let anyone smoke in the house ever. Oh yeah, this is a good one. I remember hanging out in the street with some friends watching a construction site, just waiting for the workers to go home for the day. Then we'd sneak into the construction site and roam around. We would find "treasures" (nails, bits of wood that we could make something out of, etc.), pretend we were defending a castle, etc. I don't remember ever being caught by anyone, although you'd have to think that even back then there were some rules about kids playing at a construction site.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 7, 2024 16:06:06 GMT
Smoking/non smoking sections on airplanes. Like it worked. You are in a closed cabin, you could still smell the smoke in the non smoking section. Cigarette vending machines. Catalogs in the mail. At this point, even magazines in the mail. No car seats, no seatbelts, riding in the back of pickups. Calling for the time. Prank calling people.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 7, 2024 16:09:42 GMT
School pictures were a one shot deal - no retakes…and boy looking at my school pictures you certainly could tell that. Hahaha
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Jul 7, 2024 16:10:09 GMT
My best friend's parents chainsmoked and I remember sometimes you couldn't see across their living room. Thankfully, we mostly hung out in her bedroom or the basement. But I remember my mom wanting me to not take too much with me when I spent the night because it all came back smelling so bad.
I always walked to school - only 3 blocks but "blind" from our house and crossing 2 streets, one big one. My mom would watch me crossing the big street until 3rd grade when she went back to work because I had epilepsy and she was afraid I'd have a seizure in the middle of the street. Middle school was 8 or 10 blocks away, so for that it was worth it to ride bikes. We had 6th grade in one building and 7th/8th was across the (busy) street, but a few electives (band, home ec, shop, maybe others) were over in the 6th grade building, so if you were in those you had to leave your school and go to the other in like a 4-5 minute passing period, completely unsupervised.
The (only) town orthodontist was a freaking genius because he built a new house just across the street to the side of the 6th grade building, catty-corner to the 7/8, and made the basement his office! So, if you had an ortho appointment, you just left school and walked over there on your own and - theoretically at least - came back when it was done. There was a convenience store across the alley, so lots of people made a side trip there for candy or cinnamon-flavored toothpicks before going back to class.
In HS, we had the smoking area too. But in the late 80s, even though most parents still smoked, it was really just the "undesirables" who used the school smoking area. Pretty much all the guys dipped, though. We could have gone anywhere, with no car trackers or cell phones, but weekend nights, we just drove up and down that one street over and over again, just like everyone else, until we were old enough to get into bars.
We used to ride bikes everywhere from about age 5 on up until we could drive a car! I'd ride 10 miles each way on a sketchy road to go to the next city over's pool that was nicer than ours when I was about 12. My bestie lived about 5 miles away, and I rode to & from there on busy streets frequently from 9 or 10. There was a church in the neighborhood that had a big ramp and a hilly sidewalk that was fantastic for riding on, and it would never have occurred to them to run us off (for insurance reasons), because we weren't causing any trouble.
I didn't ride to too many babysitting gigs, though, because of how late I was usually done. We thought nothing at all of getting in the car alone with whatever family's dad, though. People were more than happy to pay a 12yo kid $1.75/hr to watch 3-4 kids, always with at least one and often 2-3 in diapers still. Now, no one would even consider a 12yo sitter for one kid!
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Post by katlady on Jul 7, 2024 16:18:05 GMT
Walking everywhere, unlike America, cars were owned by adults and not even all adults, so as kids and teens we walked, rode bikes or took buses to wherever we wanted to go. None of my close friends had cars until after high school graduation. We took the bus or biked everywhere. Even school pickups were not a thing like they are now in this area. Instead of cars, there would be empty mass transit buses waiting outside the school to pick up kids (not free of course, discounted fare though). I guess it just depends on where you live and the demographics. We rode our bikes all over the city of LA during the summer. It was probably dangerous with the traffic and all, but we didn't know any better. Lol! My mom worked full-time, so it was not like she was kicking us out of the house. We just made sure we got back home around the time she would be getting home from work.
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