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Post by KikiPea on Jul 11, 2024 13:16:04 GMT
I have been struggling to lose weight that I had gained due to taking Gabapentin, and after surgery last year. I’ve tried a few different things, including working out with a trainer, and nothing seems to be working. I haven’t been able to workout since late May because I tripped on the edge of our garage and hurt my back.
Anyway, I will be talking with a nutritionist today that is through my DH’s employer. If you have talked with one, what should I expect? Did the things they suggested work for you? Were they easy to implement?
Thanks for any feedback you can give me. I’m just curious.
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Post by snyder on Jul 11, 2024 13:25:19 GMT
I have struggled with weight all my life. I have learned about practically every diet that's out there. I know what amd how I need to eat and how much exercise I need. Water intake, macros, etc.
I found the nutritionist I went to was worthless as she told me nothing new.
I hope your nutritionist will prove to be better than the one I went too so you can come back and share those tips so many of us need!
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Post by MorningPerson on Jul 11, 2024 13:32:27 GMT
I saw a nutritionist a few years ago to learn ways to reduce my cholesterol numbers. She was good and I learned a lot. [Pro tip for that: the Mediterranean diet is excellent]
As far as what to expect at your meeting… for me I told her what my goal was - to bring my cholesterol numbers waaaaayyyy down - and she took it from there. Really, it’s all about them educating us, and then most important, taking what we learn and DOING IT.
Let us know how your meeting goes!
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Post by GiantsFan on Jul 11, 2024 13:46:00 GMT
When I met with an RD I went with a list of the foods I normally eat at mealtimes. Breakfast is always xxx, lunch is usually xxx or yyy, and dinner is xxx and xxx. I was focusing on a low-carb, dirty Keto diet. I was mainly looking for validation on what I was eating was OK. She agreed with my meals but suggested I switch to the Mediterranean Diet. In meeting with my doctor after the RD appt she thought my current diet was working and stick to that until I met my goal then continue with the Med diet.
So my answer is go in with a list of questions and what your current meals consist of.
Oh, and I used a my fitness pal meal tracker to count calories. It's a pain to enter everything but it really helped me keep track of calories. I used the free version.
Good Luck.
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Post by KikiPea on Jul 11, 2024 13:53:06 GMT
When I met with an RD I went with a list of the foods I normally eat at mealtimes. Breakfast is always xxx, lunch is usually xxx or yyy, and dinner is xxx and xxx. I was focusing on a low-carb, dirty Keto diet. I was mainly looking for validation on what I was eating was OK. She agreed with my meals but suggested I switch to the Mediterranean Diet. In meeting with my doctor after the RD appt she thought my current diet was working and stick to that until I met my goal then continue with the Med diet. So my answer is go in with a list of questions and what your current meals consist of. Oh, and I used a my fitness pal meal tracker to count calories. It's a pain to enter everything but it really helped me keep track of calories. I used the free version. Good Luck. Thank you! I’ve been using MFP with no luck, so we’ll see if she suggests that I continue with that, but maybe gives me new numbers to try.
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Post by Linda on Jul 11, 2024 13:58:10 GMT
I agree - it's helpful to be able to share what you're already eating as well as what your challenges are (are you also cooking for a family? do you have allergies/intolerances? are you on a time crunch and need quick and easy or grab and go ideas? Do you end up eating out and need tips for that?). And what are your goals? weight loss? cholesterol? blood sugar? more variety? more vegetables?
I have access to an RD through my insurance and have had a couple of sessions. Most recently I was having trouble with breakfast - I'm not a morning person and cooking breakfast wasn't happening - I need simple and ready to eat. She gave me some ideas but also suggested that since I eat leftover for lunch most of the time, that I could try switching that around and grabbing leftovers at breakfast and then cooking or prepping more at lunchtime when I'm more awake. That's actually working really well for me - especially when we have something like quiche as leftovers.
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 11, 2024 14:02:32 GMT
Go in with an open mind but not with high hopes. I’ve been to a couple and they mainly told me things I already do. “Drink more water.” “Limit simple carbs.” Yeah, no $#it. I hope they help you develop an eating plan that allows you to reach your goals.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 11, 2024 14:11:38 GMT
I love my nutritionist!!
First thing I did was get on a special scale. It measure weight, muscle, fat, and broke down various things. Was really cool.
Then had height checked, and BP.
We then went to her office (it is a group of 3) and she asked a lot of questions, went over medical history, we talked about my activity level, what I eat, how food makes me feel, etc
I went due to allergies and becoming allergic to a ton at once. I felt defeated on how to eat.
Anyways, she created a personal list of foods that were good for me due to allergies and helped me overcome my but breakfast has to be eggs or pancakes or waffles or toast mentality.
That food is needed to fuel the body.
We also went over why at 2 to 3 pm daily I get very tired and crave sweets. I wasn't getting enough protein before then.
Anyways we went over a lot of meal options and how to base food intake off of level of wellness for fitness that day.
I do a food log and while we don't focus on calories in, we do discuss it.
I was at 1200 a day and not loosing. Come to find out, I needed 1750 to loose. And sure enough, I started to loose and we made adjustments.
I prefer nutritionist over dieticians because they focus more on making your body feel good, changing your mindset, and guiding you over overall weight loss in mind.
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Post by shamrock on Jul 11, 2024 14:11:49 GMT
I’ve been working with one for about 6 months. Goals are to lower cholesterol, increase vitamin d, and lose weight. We’ve accomplished lowering cholesterol (hint fiber makes a HUGE difference for me.) Weight hasn’t moved. Vit D I haven’t had checked yet. Honestly, I’ll probably take a break from working with her once I’ve hit my insurance limit for the year. There’s nothing magical she can do to help me lose weight. I think it’s just where it is bc perimenopause has done a number on my body and it isn’t responding to lower calories or increased exercise anymore. I can’t drop the calories any lower and still enjoy life.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 11, 2024 14:26:41 GMT
I've had really good experiences w/nutritionists. It would be helpful if you kept a food diary for a week and brought that in, so that your nutritionist can see what you normally eat and when. They can look at patterns and track things like blood sugar/true hunger.
A good medical nutrtitionist is an expert in the problem that you have. If they listen well that's key. Telling you to change to a strict diet of broccoli and air isn't realistic. Teaching you how to enjoy the foods that are healthiest for your condition will work. In certain cases one really has to give up a beloved food, but if it's not a case of that then find someone who will help you incorporate your favorites into your lifestyle. Believe it or not you can lose weight and keep it off even better, that way.
So, find a compassionate listener who isn't a taskmaster. That won't work and you'll end up resenting that person. You want a lifestyle that's tailored to your wants and needs, not the diet of someone who doesn't understand you.
HTH.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 11, 2024 15:06:30 GMT
I have got to say that my experience with a dietician was abysmal.
I see my PC every six months. I saw her last June and she was very concerned about my cholesterol, my A1C, my blood pressure and my weight. She wanted me to take weight loss meds. I discussed it with my psychiatrist who told me she was totally opposed to me doing so. So I requested referral to a dietician in July. She looked over my food logs and told me 1) only whole grain carbs 2) serious protein at every meal 3) fruit should be considered sugar. I went home with this thinking and put it in practice. Went back a month later and had lost 3 pounds. She looked over my food logs again and spent an hour lecturing me on intuitive eating. Mindfulness, hand outs, etc. I asked about a calorie limit, she said that wasn't necessary and really my focus was on good health, not weight loss, so just keep doing what I was doing. I did not schedule another appointment. But I kept up with the serious amounts of protein and the whole grains. And then I went for my blood work in January. My cholesterol was through the roof, my triglycerdies were 250! My A1C was 6.3 up from 6.1 in June. My weight hadn't budged.
My doctor was convinced more than ever that I needed weight loss meds. I pushed back...again.
I began reading and reading and reading some more. I recommend How Not to Diet by Dr. Michael Gregor. The book is like 5 inches thick because he basically investigates every single weight related study ever conducted. His recommendation? Whole food, plant based. I was not convinced I'd be able to do it. So for the past few months, I've been dabbling in plant based cooking. My weight has held steady. My blood work in June was slightly better than January. I told my doctor at my June appointment that I was going to go full steam ahead on a whole food, plant-based diet. I told her I thought I could commit to 3 months and take this seriously. I asked her to draw a full panel of blood work at the three month mark so we could compare it to my peak (?) in January. I told her if this didn't show any type of improvement, I would resign myself to trying the weight loss meds.
I quit smoking 12 weeks ago. I gained 8.6 pounds in the first 7 weeks (so 49 days) on day 50, I had my blood drawn and I started a strict plant-based diet. As of today, it's been 5 weeks. I have lost that 8.6 pounds that I gained as of Tuesday. Last night, after dinner, my blood pressure had the lowest reading I've had in over 2 years. The only thing I have done is switch what I'm eating. No quantity restrictions, nothing. But I will say I am trying to minimize non-whole grain carbs. I stuck with that aspect of the dietician advice. Now, I don't think that 5 weeks is long enough to draw any conclusions, but I will say, I remain incredibly curious about where this is going. I committed to 3 months so I have 7 weeks left, I'm almost half way. I'll report back when I see what my overall health looks like at the end of it. But I'm encouraged.
But basically I went in there pretty open-minded and I feel that the dietician I saw (my only experience with one) wasn't worth the money I spent. I had a lot of faith in her too. I was consistent.
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Post by MorningPerson on Jul 11, 2024 15:35:56 GMT
Most recently I was having trouble with breakfast - I'm not a morning person and cooking breakfast wasn't happening - I need simple and ready to eat. She gave me some ideas but also suggested that since I eat leftover for lunch most of the time, that I could try switching that around and grabbing leftovers at breakfast and then cooking or prepping more at lunchtime when I'm more awake. That's actually working really well for me - especially when we have something like quiche as leftovers. Anyways, she created a personal list of foods that were good for me due to allergies and helped me overcome my but breakfast has to be eggs or pancakes or waffles or toast mentality. Both of you mentioned the idea of switching up our ideas of breakfast. This is intriguing. For 99.9% of my life I’ve had the traditional cereal or eggs/bacon or waffles/fruit etc etc etc. Do you actually have things for breakfast you would normally eat for lunch or dinner? This could open up a whole new world for me. Honestly breakfast usually bores me. My wheels are turning and I’m thinking out loud here. I think I’ve actually always assumed there was a good reason for eating the traditional breakfast foods. But is there a good reason? 🤔 Hmm.
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Post by Linda on Jul 11, 2024 15:45:04 GMT
Both of you mentioned the idea of switching up our ideas of breakfast. This is intriguing. For 99.9% of my life I’ve had the traditional cereal or eggs/bacon or waffles/fruit etc etc etc. Do you actually have things for breakfast you would normally eat for lunch or dinner? I find I do need protein at breakfast but it doesn't have to be the traditional eggs/bacon. Quiche, leftover savoury pie, bread/cheese/fruit, leftover pizza, leftover kielbasa/veg, spanokopita...those are common breakfasts for me now. I do sometimes have weetabix with fruit and milk or yoghurt/granola/fruit - usually when there aren't any good leftovers. I don't know for sure but I'm guessing cereal companies (and possibly pancake/waffle mix companies) and their advertising are the reason we have breakfast specific foods.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 11, 2024 16:15:27 GMT
MorningPerson yes! Having an egg allergy (white, yolk, whole egg) I had to change what I had for breakfast. In the late fall and winter I will have left over soup. Warmer months I have a salad and will add fruits I can have. Here is what I fix for breakfast: Potato has with onion, garlic, bell pepper, broccoli and a tiny bit of cheese Salads Soups Sauteed vegetables (sometimes I add cooked pasta) Fruit with granola Lettuce wrap with bacon added Vegetable platter with homemade ranch dip Homemade biscuits with butter or honey and fruit or bacon Homemade muffin with fruit or vegetables
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Post by alsomsknit on Jul 12, 2024 0:50:13 GMT
I have got to say that my experience with a dietician was abysmal. I see my PC every six months. I saw her last June and she was very concerned about my cholesterol, my A1C, my blood pressure and my weight. She wanted me to take weight loss meds. I discussed it with my psychiatrist who told me she was totally opposed to me doing so. So I requested referral to a dietician in July. She looked over my food logs and told me 1) only whole grain carbs 2) serious protein at every meal 3) fruit should be considered sugar. I went home with this thinking and put it in practice. Went back a month later and had lost 3 pounds. She looked over my food logs again and spent an hour lecturing me on intuitive eating. Mindfulness, hand outs, etc. I asked about a calorie limit, she said that wasn't necessary and really my focus was on good health, not weight loss, so just keep doing what I was doing. I did not schedule another appointment. But I kept up with the serious amounts of protein and the whole grains. And then I went for my blood work in January. My cholesterol was through the roof, my triglycerdies were 250! My A1C was 6.3 up from 6.1 in June. My weight hadn't budged. My doctor was convinced more than ever that I needed weight loss meds. I pushed back...again. I began reading and reading and reading some more. I recommend How Not to Diet by Dr. Michael Gregor. The book is like 5 inches thick because he basically investigates every single weight related study ever conducted. His recommendation? Whole food, plant based. I was not convinced I'd be able to do it. So for the past few months, I've been dabbling in plant based cooking. My weight has held steady. My blood work in June was slightly better than January. I told my doctor at my June appointment that I was going to go full steam ahead on a whole food, plant-based diet. I told her I thought I could commit to 3 months and take this seriously. I asked her to draw a full panel of blood work at the three month mark so we could compare it to my peak (?) in January. I told her if this didn't show any type of improvement, I would resign myself to trying the weight loss meds. I quit smoking 12 weeks ago. I gained 8.6 pounds in the first 7 weeks (so 49 days) on day 50, I had my blood drawn and I started a strict plant-based diet. As of today, it's been 5 weeks. I have lost that 8.6 pounds that I gained as of Tuesday. Last night, after dinner, my blood pressure had the lowest reading I've had in over 2 years. The only thing I have done is switch what I'm eating. No quantity restrictions, nothing. But I will say I am trying to minimize non-whole grain carbs. I stuck with that aspect of the dietician advice. Now, I don't think that 5 weeks is long enough to draw any conclusions, but I will say, I remain incredibly curious about where this is going. I committed to 3 months so I have 7 weeks left, I'm almost half way. I'll report back when I see what my overall health looks like at the end of it. But I'm encouraged. But basically I went in there pretty open-minded and I feel that the dietician I saw (my only experience with one) wasn't worth the money I spent. I had a lot of faith in her too. I was consistent. My husband was able to quit taking BP and Chol meds doing whole food plant based eating. I don’t think he lost weight, as he’s rather lean from running anyway. He eats huge amounts. It’s irritating. My experience with a dietitian was also abysmal. She had one way of eating with no concern about food issues or anything. I ate over a day’s period of time what she gave for lunch or dinner. Had food issues for as long as I can remember. It’s only gotten worse with gastroparesis (amount) and now gluten intolerance (limiting).
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 12, 2024 1:00:08 GMT
alsomsknit said: He eats huge amounts. It’s irritating. This made me laugh so hard. Just curious...why don't you try it? Or did you and it didn't work for you? I admit I was so curious just to see what would happen. This is the most excitement I've had since I wore the same dress for 100 days in a row. 😂
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Post by Zee on Jul 12, 2024 2:13:54 GMT
I think it's very helpful if you have a specific problem, such as diabetes. I'm not sure it's very helpful when you already know what to eat and what not to eat and how many calories you should be taking in.
But go into it with a positive mindset and see what happens, if you're not already sure of those things.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 12, 2024 2:21:52 GMT
I have got to say that my experience with a dietician was abysmal. From my experience, a dietician and nutritionist are 2 different people. The dietician was he needs x amount of calories each feed, x amount of feeds, calorie counted, had us add extra scoop to certain feeds, etc. The nutritionist was concerned about weight but from the vantage point of health overall. Vitamins, minerals. They are the ones who added oral liquid vit/min that were rx and helped with finding the right formula that he could tolerate. Dietician couldn't care less that he had allergies. She wanted to add avocado oil to everything. And nut butter. I complained a lot about her and she was eventually dropped. Ds saw both under peds GI specialty team clinics when he was failure to thrive. They worked together and we had separate visits. I saw a nutritionist who specialized in medical needs, another in the group was general, another was for pre/post surgery.
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Post by milocat on Jul 12, 2024 4:13:22 GMT
That food is needed to fuel the body. We also went over why at 2 to 3 pm daily I get very tired and crave sweets. I wasn't getting enough protein before then. Anyways we went over a lot of meal options and how to base food intake off of level of wellness for fitness that day. I do a food log and while we don't focus on calories in, we do discuss it. I was at 1200 a day and not loosing. Come to find out, I needed 1750 to loose. And sure enough, I started to loose and we made adjustments. I prefer nutritionist over dieticians because they focus more on making your body feel good, changing your mindset, and guiding you over overall weight loss in mind. Yes, more protein! I've started eating more protein and have less cravings and crashes. Society has taught us that 1200 calories is some magic diet number but it's too low. I have got to say that my experience with a dietician was abysmal. From my experience, a dietician and nutritionist are 2 different people. I don't know about the US, but in Canada there is a big difference in the schooling between a registered dietician and a nutritionist. That being said I'm sure there are some crappy dietitians and some excellent nutritionists.
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Post by alsomsknit on Jul 12, 2024 22:50:40 GMT
alsomsknit said: He eats huge amounts. It’s irritating. This made me laugh so hard. Just curious...why don't you try it? Or did you and it didn't work for you? I admit I was so curious just to see what would happen. This is the most excitement I've had since I wore the same dress for 100 days in a row. 😂 I did try it. Unfortunately, the Fibro had significantly decreased what I could do when this began. So he was the one cooking. He’s never been too understanding about my food issues. While I have overcame many of them, there are still hangers on. I’m willing to try new things. He would get offended if I wouldn’t eat something despite my having tried it. And, he would make what our son and I didn’t like frequently. This left me with needing to feed Jay and I whatever I could quickly and easily prepare, which meant familiar. He has many good qualities which makes putting up with whatever hang up he has of my food issues necessary. It is rather hurtful, though. Gastroparesis, gluten intolerance, and diabetes makes eating difficult…what and how much.
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Post by quiltz on Jul 13, 2024 4:49:54 GMT
He’s never been too understanding about my food issues. While I have overcame many of them, there are still hangers on. I’m willing to try new things. He would get offended if I wouldn’t eat something despite my having tried it. And, he would make what our son and I didn’t like frequently. This left me with needing to feed Jay and I whatever I could quickly and easily prepare, which meant familiar. He has many good qualities which makes putting up with whatever hang up he has of my food issues necessary. It is rather hurtful, though ^^^ This is abuse. A person who knows about real food issues, isn't too understanding AND if this person is the "chef" in the family ~ this behaviour of him is abuse.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 13, 2024 11:30:05 GMT
alsomsknit said: He eats huge amounts. It’s irritating. This made me laugh so hard. Just curious...why don't you try it? Or did you and it didn't work for you? I admit I was so curious just to see what would happen. This is the most excitement I've had since I wore the same dress for 100 days in a row. 😂 I did try it. Unfortunately, the Fibro had significantly decreased what I could do when this began. So he was the one cooking. He’s never been too understanding about my food issues. While I have overcame many of them, there are still hangers on. I’m willing to try new things. He would get offended if I wouldn’t eat something despite my having tried it. And, he would make what our son and I didn’t like frequently. This left me with needing to feed Jay and I whatever I could quickly and easily prepare, which meant familiar. He has many good qualities which makes putting up with whatever hang up he has of my food issues necessary. It is rather hurtful, though. Gastroparesis, gluten intolerance, and diabetes makes eating difficult…what and how much. I am away this weekend and I know I said I was going to stay off peas but I got an email that said I was quoted by you, so I came here to see what it said. I just needed to respond that I am so sorry I misinterpreted your comment above and laughed. I thought you were making the comment that he eats this way and runs so he eats huge quantities (a man too, right and we all know it's easier for them to manage weight) and that you have to eat like a squirrel in order to maintain your weight. Anyway that is what I thought you were saying. I see now that this is much more irritating in more ways than just the quantity of his food. And for that I'm sorry. I don't know if it goes as far as abuse. But I will just say that my experience in my relationship is a bit different. I cook a whole food plant based dinner every night. Jeremy many times tries it. I am a very good cook generally so this has just seemed like a culinary adventure for me. He has been very surprised at how much of it he really likes. His open mind has been more than I expected from him. If he doesn't like it, he will resort to some kind of frozen meal. (But he would eat frozen meals every single night if he didn't have me so I don't feel too guilty about that either ) We have found a balance now 5 weeks in. And I honestly felt terribly guilty at first because I have been feeding him for 13 years. And I changed things. He assured me that he was alright with it because he wants me to be healthier. So I'm trying to consider him and he's trying to consider me and we are negotiating a bit. But both of us have been ok. I'm sorry for what is going on in your house. I hope the two of you can work out a better system.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2024 12:39:20 GMT
I went to a nutritionist with a family member. While the goal was not weight loss, they helped a bit. For me personally, menopause (and gabapentin) made this difficult. I have been on gabapentin for 5 years. My dose now is extremely low now but I will never be off of it. I know my body. I used to be a trainer. I finally figured out what works for me, and it was after reading the book "Fast, Feast, Repeat" by Gin Stephens. Absolutely a life changer for me in menopause. I wanted something that I could do for a lifetime (my new lifestyle). This is absolutely it for me. I also had back surgery in January 2020 so I knew I needed a change. I don't do well counting calories, being told what I can and cannot eat, etc. THIS works for me. I read the book, did her fast start, and began on June 30, 2020. I am extremely healthy, and have been doing it for 4 years. I lost weight, am still in the same size, and have not been sick (even with Covid, cold, flu, nada) since then. My tastes have changed. Too much sugar bothers me. My portions are smaller. I don't like feeling full. You name it, it's been amazing for me. I also use the Zero app for my timer. I only eat in a 6-hour window each day. When we go on vacation or I have lunch with a friend, etc., I do what I want and then jump into my 6-hour window the next day. I don't feel restricted in any way, and I am so very, very thankful for this book and my lifestyle change. I hope you can find what works for you. Hang in there! Edited to say I turned 59 in June, and my new avatar was taken this week.
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