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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2024 14:55:19 GMT
My mom is 80, she has gotten significantly worse this last yr. In dec she was deathly ill with sepsis, and recovered, but since then her memory has gotten worse and worse. It is just so odd though, the brain is an odd thing. It's not even short or long term memory, it's just random things. For example one day she asked me what I did for a job. I've done my job for 40 yrs. We were home last wkend, and I helped her around the house and took her grocery shopping. She would have bought hundreds of dollars of stuff if I hadn't stopped her. I kept telling her, you don't need that, you have that, etc. A few days after we left she told my dad she had not gone grocery shopping with me. My dad asked her where all the new groceries had come from, and she didn't know. I did their laundry, and had her fold them. She kept holding up stuff and asking, "is this yours?". yea, I brought my dirty laundry 300 miles to wash. She does ok with preparing meals, they get meals on wheels and she can do sandwiches, soup, etc.
Has anyone had any experience with any new med's that help with memory, or the progression of dementia? I work in the healthcare field but I dont know med's and treatment of dementia. I know exercise, and I know for a fact she does not do that, or drink enough water. 2 things I constantly fight with her about doing. but she won't. It sucks to see your parents get old.
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Post by pilcas on Jul 19, 2024 15:21:33 GMT
At this point exercise and water won’t help. My mother has had Alzheimer for some 15 yrs and your Moms behavior is pretty typical. My mom was not able to take the medication that was available at tha5 time to slow it down but honestly I think her whole process was very, very slow and draining. She needs to go to a neurologist ASAP. There may be something new they can give her.
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Post by gar on Jul 19, 2024 15:26:04 GMT
It sounds fairly typical to be honest. As far as I’m aware there’s no new treatments and the patches work well for some and do nothing for others. I wish I had words that would help but sadly i don’t. It’s brutal.
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Post by barbarac on Jul 19, 2024 15:32:58 GMT
We are going through the same thing with my mom - but she's 89. She keeps asking the same questions over and over but on other things her memory is clear as a bell. I took her away on Memorial Day weekend and she has no recollection of that. We came to Cape Cod, her favorite place, so I was really surprised she didn't remember. It's very, very sad though.
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Post by ntsf on Jul 19, 2024 15:44:25 GMT
I would start long term care planning.. your dad probably at some point won't be able to take care of her.. or it would not be safe and you need a plan on what happens then.
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Post by leeny on Jul 19, 2024 15:55:06 GMT
I would get her in to see a neurologist and formulate a plan. My 81 yo Mom sees a neurologist every six months because her Mom passed from Alzheimer's. Most recently the doc said she is beginning to show signs of age related dementia. We are noticing that my Mom is not concentrating like she used to, for instance we will have a conversation and she interjects about something not related to what we are talking about.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 19, 2024 16:31:24 GMT
It does sound like it’s time for a doctor to get involved. You may need to lock their stove or flip the circuit breaker. That’s what I worried about a lot.
My MIL was in a trial about 20 years ago and received medication for her memory loss. It’s my understanding that the drugs fight off the decline, but don’t regain ground. She managed to cope for about 18 years through sheer force of will. Then she just became too angry and we had to put her into care.
My 92 year old FIL was just diagnosed with dementia and was on a drug for it, but it was making him dizzy and he was falling. So we took him off of it. Quite frankly, he’s just here “until the good Lord takes me home.” He has so much guilt about putting MIL into care that it would almost be a blessing if he forgets that part.
It’s rough. I spend a lot of my days just dealing with our elderly parents and trying to keep my parents in their home. I really don’t know how they were managing before we moved back into the area.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jul 19, 2024 16:43:04 GMT
I’m so sorry to hear your heartbreaking experiences with your mom. I do hope you find some suggestions to help move forward. I think I’m on the same path, just not as far along.
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Post by lisae on Jul 19, 2024 17:13:32 GMT
I'm so sorry. I agree with the others that her behavior sounds pretty typical. She may have had trouble remembering that you didn't live with her because in her mind she was back in time to when you did. (Mother kept asking me if I was married.) That in and out of the present seems to be common. And having worsening symptoms after an illness is also common. It's amazing the things you can't do when your short term memory goes.
My mother tried a couple of medicines but had side effects from both. I think it was probably too late anyway. I know a woman diagnosed in her 60's and lived 15 more years. Her husband swears the medicines made a world of difference. I've heard of a new drug but do investigate the side effects. One side effect my mother had was getting dizzy so she stopped the medicine. If your mother takes something that affects her balance you can have far worse problems. A broken hip being a real setback to the elderly is really true.
I also agree that you may want to think about the long term plan. It's impossible to say what will happen with her and your dad but knowing what facilities are in the area and the costs can help you be better prepared. If she were to have another health event, she might need a facility on short notice. You want to know what places you would prefer and those you don't.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jul 19, 2024 17:34:30 GMT
Has she been checked for a UTI? People don't realize how bad they can impact elderly.
My mom had a stroke Jan 2023. Around March, we were 100% convinced she had vascular dementia. A dr even diagnosed her. Her memory and "episodes" weren't all day every. But random. Mostly late at night. So we thought sundowners.
This entire time, she was having recurring UTIs. We thought they were going away and coming back. But in April of that year, she ended up in ICU septic from a UTI. Once they got her well from that, she was fine (as far as her memory and all that goes). I could always tell when she had another one because she'd start showing signs again that otherwise we would think was dementia.
So maybe have her checked for that.
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Post by GamGam on Jul 19, 2024 17:44:13 GMT
My DH is 88 and has been diagnosed with Mild Cognitive Impairment. The first reading of a MRI was late onset Alzheimer’s. But we were able to get an assessment at the Pat Summitt Clinic, and they diagnosed the MCI. It is soooo important to get diagnosed accurately. He is currently taking Donepezil to slow the rate of memory loss. And he still functions well regarding every day activities and driving well known routes. Not all memory loss is Alzheimer’s. Please have your loved one diagnosed soon.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2024 19:21:32 GMT
She has all the drs. Trust me. I’ve had them involved from the start. Her reg MD. I’ve had to fight with on some things. Ie being on an antidepressant. She has side effects from a lot of things, any change in medication makes her dizzy. That’s why they have been so cautious with her. She is a high fall risk, but uses a cane or walker. She has a hematologist, urologist, neurologist, and reg GP. Trouble is they also live in a very very small town , so not a lot of resources and have to travel to see all these drs
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 19, 2024 21:04:44 GMT
My grandmother started living with my Dad (he was a nurse) after her stroke. She had mobility issues but was pretty independent until one night she came out of the bathroom and went the wrong way. She fell down 6 stairs and broke half her body. This was the beginning of the end for her, and it was a long road until she passed this past winter.
She was a tiny thing and hydration was super important, so we had to give her Pedialyte mixed with water to keep up on it because otherwise she only drank coffee. Please make sure areas are well lit if she has to get up at night. We got my Grandma these batter powered motion lights to line the hallway and bathroom, they definitely helped. Make sure she has a way to call for help if she does fall - those pull cords with the alarms would be fine as long as someone is home all the time.
I'm sorry you're going through this because it sucks.
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Post by peasapie on Jul 19, 2024 22:12:32 GMT
My mom died from Alzheimers many years ago, and sadly, not much has changed in terms of treatment of the disease itself. I'm glad you have your mom established with a team of doctors so you know it isn't something as simple as a bladder infection (which can cause so many issues). You are also having her see someone who is providing treatment for her mental health, so important because anxiety and depression are very common as dementia and Alzheimers progress. There is absolutely no reason she should have to deal with that. It's sounds like you are very competently managing everything possible and my only suggestion is to make sure that you and everyone else helping manage her care find ways to care for yourselves as well.
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Post by rasberrycpa on Jul 19, 2024 22:13:14 GMT
My mom had a severe case of sepsis following a surgery. The doctor told us after she recovered that he did not think she was going to make it. Since then she has had dementia/memory issues. Apparently there is a link between severe sepsis and memory loss in elder patients. The sepsis releases some type of chemical in the brain that causes the memory issues. I don’t recall all of the specifics now but if you google it there is medical research that explains the biology/science behind it.
I’m sorry that you are going through this. I know how difficult it can be. One of the saddest parts for my mom is that she is aware of her memory decline and she gets sad about it at times when she can’t do things she used to enjoy (like baking, etc).
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2024 22:41:03 GMT
My mom had a severe case of sepsis following a surgery. The doctor told us after she recovered that he did not think she was going to make it. Since then she has had dementia/memory issues. Apparently there is a link between severe sepsis and memory loss in elder patients. The sepsis releases some type of chemical in the brain that causes the memory issues. I don’t recall all of the specifics now but if you google it there is medical research that explains the biology/science behind it. I’m sorry that you are going through this. I know how difficult it can be. One of the saddest parts for my mom is that she is aware of her memory decline and she gets sad about it at times when she can’t do things she used to enjoy (like baking, etc). That is so interesting. I often see this in hospital. She has been showing this decline over the last 4 yrs. It’s just so heartbreaking. She retired when she was 70! And over the last 10 yrs has gone down so much
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 19, 2024 22:45:02 GMT
I unfortunately have a lot of experience with dementia (my mother is developing it and my MIL has had it for several years). MIL has medication from her parkinson's doctors that basically needs to be constantly adjusted and/or replaced with different medication, which then needs to be adjusted or replaced. She still isn't particularly functional, but it keeps her in a state where she is less dangerous physically and verbally. My mother won't seek medical help so . One thing I have learned is that arguing with someone with dementia is fruitless.
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 20, 2024 13:05:53 GMT
I unfortunately have a lot of experience with dementia (my mother is developing it and my MIL has had it for several years). MIL has medication from her parkinson's doctors that basically needs to be constantly adjusted and/or replaced with different medication, which then needs to be adjusted or replaced. She still isn't particularly functional, but it keeps her in itless. a state where she is less dangerous physically and verbally. My mother won't seek medical help so . One thing I have learned is that arguing with someone with dementia is fruitless.My neighbor told me a great acronym WAIT "Why Am I Talking". It has really helped me with my mom. My mom was diagnosed with age related short term memory. It's getting worse almost daily. She is in an assisted living apartment and my dad is down the hall in long term care. It's so crazy. She can remember all the family news, such as my niece quitting her job. She can't remember that I offered to bring them dinner. She needs to follow the same routine every day or she gets really upset. She is also getting mean, which is really hard to deal with. She never had a mean bone in her body before this.
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Post by doglover on Jul 22, 2024 11:02:22 GMT
Newer research has found a very strong link between alzheimers and metabolic dysfunction. Some doctors have started referring to it as Type 3 diabetes. High cholesterol, high fasting glucose, high HbA1C, high liver lab test results are all indicators of metabolic dysfunction. Putting patients on a very low carb or keto-type diet has shown significant improvement in alzheimer patients. I follow Dr. Mark Hyman on YouTube because he is very up on recent research. Search on YouTube for his name and alzheimers and you’ll find several videos where he discusses it. I’m not a fan of keto diets for most people, but if I had s parent with memory problems I would immediately put them on a keto diet if their labs suggested metabolic dysfunction. The other thing I would do is to review what medications your mom takes and see if any of those could be causing memory issues. Ask a pharmacist about side effects. They know more about med side effects than doctors. I would talk to at least two pharmacists. I used to work in the pharmaceutical industry as a project manager for FDA clinical trials.
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Post by eventhinker on Jul 22, 2024 22:37:16 GMT
I know dementia/Alzheimer’s is not funny in any way. That being said, my mother at our last Christmas gathering, told a story about how she’d have hot chocolate ready for all us kids when she saw us walking up from the bus stop. The three of us never were in the same schools at the same time, I was 14 years younger, but she told it as if all 3 of us walked up the hill together. (We just let it go because yes she did have hot chocolate for us!)
it was heart breaking to see the forgetfulness, and the fear when she realized she had forgotten something.
Hugs to you!
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 22, 2024 23:17:01 GMT
One thing I have learned is that arguing with someone with dementia is fruitless. 100% Asking your mom where the groceries came from is not going to trigger her memory. Rather than looking for a med, at this point I would be concentrating on what the next living situation is going to be for your parents. Should they move closer to you? Will they be able to stay together? Is help available to come into their home and any adult daycare for her/respite for your dad? What services can you tap into? Have a heart-to-heart with your dad about what the real choices are. Pulling the trigger on leaving their home (or bringing in help) will be easier if you start the hard conversations now. FWIW, my mom was a wanderer and left the house if left alone for more than 30 seconds. Dad couldn't even get a bathroom break without losing her. Thankfully she usually ended up home for the next meal, often hours later. Occasionally she had a ride home from the local police. So sorry dementia is hitting your family.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 22, 2024 23:19:43 GMT
My mom is showing some signs, partly because she is 94 and partly because she has spent decades refusing to wear hearing aids. It's so hard. The best advice I can give is start looking at options. She will need full time care. Sending virtual hugs your way!
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Post by malibou on Jul 23, 2024 6:34:48 GMT
Has she been checked for a UTI? People don't realize how bad they can impact elderly.
My mom had a stroke Jan 2023. Around March, we were 100% convinced she had vascular dementia. A dr even diagnosed her. Her memory and "episodes" weren't all day every. But random. Mostly late at night. So we thought sundowners.
This entire time, she was having recurring UTIs. We thought they were going away and coming back. But in April of that year, she ended up in ICU septic from a UTI. Once they got her well from that, she was fine (as far as her memory and all that goes). I could always tell when she had another one because she'd start showing signs again that otherwise we would think was dementia.
So maybe have her checked for that.
This was my mom too.
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Post by huskergal on Jul 23, 2024 16:37:04 GMT
My father had no short term memory. He would ask the same question a minute after you answered it. He confused names of me and my siblings sometimes, but he mostly remembered us. He had no idea who his grandchildren were. If I showed him old photo albums, he could name everyone. He forgot he was a minister for over 50 years. He forgot my mom. Sometimes he said she was his sister.
He immigrated from Latvia, and we ended up taking him to a facility there when he could no longer be cared for at home. The last time I saw him, I wondered what age he thought I was. I was with one of my brothers and my oldest daughter. He introduced my brother and I to his roommate, but had no idea who my daughter was. I told him she was my daughter and he said, "You are not old enough to have a daughter."
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 23, 2024 16:48:55 GMT
Has she been checked for a UTI? People don't realize how bad they can impact elderly.
My mom had a stroke Jan 2023. Around March, we were 100% convinced she had vascular dementia. A dr even diagnosed her. Her memory and "episodes" weren't all day every. But random. Mostly late at night. So we thought sundowners.
This entire time, she was having recurring UTIs. We thought they were going away and coming back. But in April of that year, she ended up in ICU septic from a UTI. Once they got her well from that, she was fine (as far as her memory and all that goes). I could always tell when she had another one because she'd start showing signs again that otherwise we would think was dementia.
So maybe have her checked for that.
THIS is incredibly important and common with the elderly.
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