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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 3:29:47 GMT
I like all of the speeches that I've heard from him. He's personable, relatable, straight forward and down to earth. I think he has the potential to appeal to a lot of voters. And I would love to see him tear apart Vance in a debate. Josh Shapiro
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 26, 2024 17:48:48 GMT
List of potential VP candidate - Look who’s at the top with the best favorably %. Pete Buttigieg 57.8% - Favorable 11.2% - Unfavorable +46.6 - Net Favorably 69.0% - Name ID 5. - # of polls Gretchen Whitmer 48.0% 8.0% +40.0 56.0% Mark Kelly 43.0% 7.7% +35.3 50.7% 3 Josh Shapiro 30.1% 12.1% +18.0 42.3% 7 Andy Beshear 27.3% 10. 0% +17.3 37.3% 3 Roy Cooper 22.0% 6.0% +16.0 28.0% 1 J.B. Pritzker 18.8% 9.5% +9.3 28.3% 4 Tim Walz N/A N/A Average favorable and unfavorable ratings and name ID of potential Democratic vice presidential picks, among Democrats in national polls conducted since June 27 ABC News x.com/abc7newsbayarea/status/1816888787349180908?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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Post by katybee on Jul 26, 2024 18:23:43 GMT
Are we talking DREAM ticket? Then I would want Buttigieg 100%. But I want to win. I love Harris, but his seat in AZ is vulnerable. So I’m going with Beshear.
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Post by oh yvonne on Jul 26, 2024 18:33:09 GMT
Are we talking DREAM ticket? Then I would want Buttigieg 100%. But I want to win. I love Harris, but his seat in AZ is vulnerable. So I’m going with Beshear. This is where I sit too. I adore Buttigieg but I think his time will come, one more cycle of elections, maybe two after Kamala serves her second term. Enough of those hateful Boomers will be gone by then (I refuse to count as a Boomer even though I'm the last year, I prefer Gen Jones).
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 27, 2024 0:17:26 GMT
Are we talking DREAM ticket? Then I would want Buttigieg 100%. But I want to win. I love Harris, but his seat in AZ is vulnerable. So I’m going with Beshear. This is where I sit too. I adore Buttigieg but I think his time will come, one more cycle of elections, maybe two after Kamala serves her second term. Enough of those hateful Boomers will be gone by then (I refuse to count as a Boomer even though I'm the last year, I prefer Gen Jones). Boomer here. In this country we have a problem. To many Americans, of all ages, judge people for who they are (man, woman, white, person of color, straight or gay) instead of their words and actions. If Buttigieg can do the job, which he can, why is the fact that he is gay a problem? In what way does him being gay hinder his ability to do a good job as VP, then president? Seriously in what way? And let’s be honest here, they don’t want him on the ticket with a black woman. Because no matter how qualified these two are, especially compared to trump and Vance, a chunk of people won’t vote for a black woman and a gay man running against two white straight guys. Even if the black woman and white gay guy have superior qualifications compared to the two white guys. That is the sad truth in this country.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 27, 2024 11:21:52 GMT
This is where I sit too. I adore Buttigieg but I think his time will come, one more cycle of elections, maybe two after Kamala serves her second term. Enough of those hateful Boomers will be gone by then (I refuse to count as a Boomer even though I'm the last year, I prefer Gen Jones). Boomer here. In this country we have a problem. To many Americans, of all ages, judge people for who they are (man, woman, white, person of color, straight or gay) instead of their words and actions. If Buttigieg can do the job, which he can, why is the fact that he is gay a problem? In what way does him being gay hinder his ability to do a good job as VP, then president? Seriously in what way? And let’s be honest here, they don’t want him on the ticket with a black woman. Because no matter how qualified these two are, especially compared to trump and Vance, a chunk of people won’t vote for a black woman and a gay man running against two white straight guys. Even if the black woman and white gay guy have superior qualifications compared to the two white guys. That is the sad truth in this country. Also a boomer, and couldn’t agree more. Harris has so many good choices, and Pete is one of them. My only thought is that I would like to see him get some FP experience. Having said that, I’m getting tired of worrying about these chuckleheads and mouth breathers who would refuse to vote for someone because they’re …..fill in the blank. Fuck those people; they weren’t going to vote for Harris anyway. They are almost certainly Trumpers, probably evangelicals or Nazis. Pete is brilliant, and if he isn’t President someday, then there is something wrong with this country.
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Post by kamper on Jul 28, 2024 0:39:18 GMT
We are going to have enough trouble getting a woman elected president. I don't think adding a gay man (as smart as he is) with not a whole lot of experience (Sec of the DOT and mayor of a small city)is going to help the ticket. I think Andy Beshear would be a good pick. And that is the problem punting by bringing some straight white guy instead of acknowledging what could be really good with Harris and Buttigieg. This country judges people by who they are, meaning man, woman, white, person of color, straight, gay or transgender. Wouldn’t it be great if we accept people for who they are and judged them solely by their words and actions. Just think what a better place this would be if we did. I don't think Buttigieg is qualified to be president. He doesn't have enough executive experience. A governor of a state has executive experience. It would be nice if our country was a utopia but it isn't. If we want to save our democracy we need to play to win. As a former Republican I am amazed how Democrats don't play to win.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 28, 2024 1:06:54 GMT
And that is the problem punting by bringing some straight white guy instead of acknowledging what could be really good with Harris and Buttigieg. This country judges people by who they are, meaning man, woman, white, person of color, straight, gay or transgender. Wouldn’t it be great if we accept people for who they are and judged them solely by their words and actions. Just think what a better place this would be if we did. I don't think Buttigieg is qualified to be president. He doesn't have enough executive experience. A governor of a state has executive experience. It would be nice if our country was a utopia but it isn't. If we want to save our democracy we need to play to win. As a former Republican I am amazed how Democrats don't play to win. Since he isn’t running for president that isn’t a problem. However if I’m understanding what you want is a governor to be VP. Then Gavin Newsom should fit the bill. He is the governor of CA. A state that is - The most populous state in the United State
- Has one of the most diverse population in the United States. An indication what the rest of the country will look like in the next generation or so as this country loses its white majority.
- Has diverse industries from agriculture to high tech and a bit of everything in between.
- Has the 5th largest economy in the world
- Understands that climate change is real and not a hoax and working toward solutions to address it with other states and countries. Did you know when Newsom went to China to talk about CC with some folks there that Xi specifically asked to have a meeting with Newsom? So the two met. Sort of unusual for a leader of a country the size of China to specifically ask to meet with a U.S. Governor.
Or some governor from a small state, with a predominantly white population, with limited industry, and on the fence about climate change?
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Post by kamper on Jul 28, 2024 1:22:08 GMT
I don't think Buttigieg is qualified to be president. He doesn't have enough executive experience. A governor of a state has executive experience. It would be nice if our country was a utopia but it isn't. If we want to save our democracy we need to play to win. As a former Republican I am amazed how Democrats don't play to win. Since he isn’t running for president that isn’t a problem. However if I’m understanding what you want is a governor to be VP. Then Gavin Newsom should fit the bill. He is the governor of CA. A state that is - The most populous state in the United State
- Has one of the most diverse population in the United States. An indication what the rest of the country will look like in the next generation or so as this country loses its white majority.
- Has diverse industries from agriculture to high tech and a bit of everything in between.
- Has the 5th largest economy in the world
- Understands that climate change is real and not a hoax and working toward solutions to address it with other states and countries. Did you know when Newsom went to China to talk about CC with some folks there that Xi specifically asked to have a meeting with Newsom? So the two met. Sort of unusual for a leader of a country the size of China to specifically ask to meet with a U.S. Governor.
Or some governor from a small state, with a predominantly white population, with limited industry, and on the fence about climate change?
He is the governor from a state that will vote for Democrats. It is also a state that is HATED by every red state in the country. While this hate is ridiculous it still is a fact. I could list similar facts about Texas (of which I am a resident) but you don't hear me suggesting Abbott. At this point the pick has to be about securing swing states and independent voters. Either Harris wins or it is game over.
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Post by katlady on Jul 28, 2024 1:30:14 GMT
Most Democrats will vote for Harris no matter who her running mate is. It is the undecided voters and the non-Maga Republicans we have to get on board. It comes down to not who has the most experience (Newsom) or who is the most liked (Buttigieg), but who can get us votes in the swing states. As someone said above, we need to play to win, even if that means not picking certain candidates.
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Post by lisae on Jul 28, 2024 1:43:43 GMT
I don't think Buttigieg is qualified to be president. He doesn't have enough executive experience. A governor of a state has executive experience. It would be nice if our country was a utopia but it isn't. If we want to save our democracy we need to play to win. As a former Republican I am amazed how Democrats don't play to win. I agree. The only one of Harris possible picks at the moment that would be poor choice is Buttigieg. If he wants a top job he needs to go back to his home state and run for Congress and then the Senate or run for a statewide office. Mayor and cabinet position aren't going to do it. Plus he is tied to the current administration. Biden wasn't just losing because of his age. Harris is already stuck with whatever people didn't like about Biden. Personally I think Biden gets blame for a lot of things that aren't his fault but that is part of being President. Buttigieg just plays to the base which she already has. More and more I think Kelly is the right pick. Swing state that she might actually win. They have a competitive Senate seat which would get a boost from having Kelly on the ticket. The only thing that Vance has right now in his favor is having been in the military. Kelly would check and raise that one easily. It would also seem petty for Trump to keep going on about almost being assassinated when Kelly's wife nearly died. I'm not completely dismissing what happened to Trump. No one should be shot at but Kelly and Giffords have been actively trying to fix this problem, not gain votes from it. Arizona is a border state with a significant interest in the southern border and I gather Kelly is already invested in this problem. It is probably the least important issue to me but Trump has made it central to his campaign and Harris is going to have to have an answer for it. Beshears is campaigning too hard for the position and brings no possibility of electoral votes. Cooper, our governor, is a nice guy, although a bit boring, and has been a good governor but winning NC is an unrealistic dream. Can she win her? Possibly. Will she win here? very unlikely. We have only voted for a Democrat for president twice in the last 50 years and 2008 was really close. Shapiro doesn't have much experience though PA is a critical state. I don't know much about the governor of Wisconsin. So my vote right now is for Kelly.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 28, 2024 2:17:53 GMT
lisae. Thank you for your insights!
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 28, 2024 12:35:15 GMT
I like Pete and think he would do a good job as VP. But, I want Harris to win more than I want Pete on the ticket. As part of the administration, he will campaign regardless of whether or not he is on the ticket. Unfortunately, he doesn’t add as much to the ticket as other candidates. And the stakes are too high this election. If Democrats lose, it’s game over.
I like what I’ve heard from Tim Walz. He’s likeable, engaging, relatable and might appeal to moderates, independents and rural voters. He’s from the Midwest, too. He’s also a 60 year old white man and I’m not sure how much Minnesota adds to the ticket.
I think Josh Shapiro has the potential to add a lot to the ticket. Pennsylvania is key to winning the election. The only downside is that he is pro Israel and the Democratic Party doesn’t need to add any fuel to that fire, the rift in the party over Gaza.
I like Kelly, but don’t want to risk losing a Senate seat, even if it won’t happen for 2 years. Can you imagine if Kerri Lake wins that seat? The thought of her winning Sinema’s seat is bad enough.
None of the candidates are perfect, but Shapiro, Cooper, Kelly and maybe Walz have the potential to add the most to the ticket.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 28, 2024 19:39:07 GMT
Since he isn’t running for president that isn’t a problem. However if I’m understanding what you want is a governor to be VP. Then Gavin Newsom should fit the bill. He is the governor of CA. A state that is - The most populous state in the United State
- Has one of the most diverse population in the United States. An indication what the rest of the country will look like in the next generation or so as this country loses its white majority.
- Has diverse industries from agriculture to high tech and a bit of everything in between.
- Has the 5th largest economy in the world
- Understands that climate change is real and not a hoax and working toward solutions to address it with other states and countries. Did you know when Newsom went to China to talk about CC with some folks there that Xi specifically asked to have a meeting with Newsom? So the two met. Sort of unusual for a leader of a country the size of China to specifically ask to meet with a U.S. Governor.
Or some governor from a small state, with a predominantly white population, with limited industry, and on the fence about climate change?
He is the governor from a state that will vote for Democrats. It is also a state that is HATED by every red state in the country. While this hate is ridiculous it still is a fact. I could list similar facts about Texas (of which I am a resident) but you don't hear me suggesting Abbott. At this point the pick has to be about securing swing states and independent voters. Either Harris wins or it is game over. Let me see if I understand this. In choosing a running mate, experience doesn’t matter if the person in question can possibly get votes from one state.
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Post by katlady on Jul 28, 2024 19:55:57 GMT
Let me see if I understand this. In choosing a running mate, experience doesn’t matter if the person in question can possibly get votes from one state. In short .... yes! All the other potential candidates do have some sort of political experience. Maybe not as extensive or varied as say Newsom. Look at Obama and Trump, who both had very little experience when they were voted into the highest office of the US Government! What does it matter if Newsom can get all the votes from the blue states. The Democrats also needs votes from the red states to win this election, and the red states won't vote for Newsom because he runs "Commi-fornia". We still have that thing called an Electoral College.
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Post by peabay on Jul 28, 2024 20:00:53 GMT
He is the governor from a state that will vote for Democrats. It is also a state that is HATED by every red state in the country. While this hate is ridiculous it still is a fact. I could list similar facts about Texas (of which I am a resident) but you don't hear me suggesting Abbott. At this point the pick has to be about securing swing states and independent voters. Either Harris wins or it is game over. Let me see if I understand this. In choosing a running mate, experience doesn’t matter if the person in question can possibly get votes from one state. Look at Kennedy choosing Johnson as a running mate - it was more than just one state though; it was multiple southern states.
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Post by Clair on Jul 28, 2024 20:13:09 GMT
He is the governor from a state that will vote for Democrats. It is also a state that is HATED by every red state in the country. While this hate is ridiculous it still is a fact. I could list similar facts about Texas (of which I am a resident) but you don't hear me suggesting Abbott. At this point the pick has to be about securing swing states and independent voters. Either Harris wins or it is game over. Let me see if I understand this. In choosing a running mate, experience doesn’t matter if the person in question can possibly get votes from one state. It’s about winning the election. Newsom is a poor choice if the dems want the White House. I’m a mid to moderate dem who lives in Los Angeles county - I don’t know anyone who likes Newsom. He is not who we need as vice president. I voted against the recall in 2021 because I didn’t want Elder.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 28, 2024 20:29:01 GMT
I don't think Buttigieg is qualified to be president. He doesn't have enough executive experience. A governor of a state has executive experience. It would be nice if our country was a utopia but it isn't. If we want to save our democracy we need to play to win. As a former Republican I am amazed how Democrats don't play to win. I agree. The only one of Harris possible picks at the moment that would be poor choice is Buttigieg. If he wants a top job he needs to go back to his home state and run for Congress and then the Senate or run for a statewide office. Mayor and cabinet position aren't going to do it. Plus he is tied to the current administration. Biden wasn't just losing because of his age. Harris is already stuck with whatever people didn't like about Biden. Personally I think Biden gets blame for a lot of things that aren't his fault but that is part of being President. Buttigieg just plays to the base which she already has So my vote right now is for Kelly. So Pete needs executive experience. He is the Secretary of Transportation. Head guy of a department that has 51,000 - 57,000 employees with a budget of $277 Billion for 2024. As Secretary of Transportation he is responsible for what happens in that department. While mayor of whatever town it was, he picked up the basic understanding of how government works. By being part of the Federal Government he has expanded that knowledge. He was in the Navy. Navy Intelligence to be exact. While in the Navy he spent time in Afghanistan. So he has been in a combat zone. His platform when running for President was a good compromise between progressives and moderates. There is a lot of whining about not having young candidates on the ticket. He is 42. Mark Kelly is 60. So at the end of Harris’s 8 year run as president you could have one VP age 50 running to replace Harris or a 68 year old guy. For those looking for younger candidates to run this is important. As to blaming Joe Biden or most presidents for the cost of things is deliberate voter ignorance. These folks are too lazy to ask the question why when it’s easier to blame someone without the facts. IMO what’s killing this country are uninformed voters and the stay at home voter. My drink of choice is ginger ale. I always buy the 12 pack from Safeway. For months and months and during the pandemic it was $7.99. As things started to get back to normal, whatever that was, the price of a 12 pack shot up to $10.99 and has been that high for about a year. So how is Joe Biden responsible for the increase in my ginger ale?
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 28, 2024 20:32:45 GMT
Let me see if I understand this. In choosing a running mate, experience doesn’t matter if the person in question can possibly get votes from one state. It’s about winning the election. Newsom is a poor choice if the dems want the White House. I’m a mid to moderate dem who lives in Los Angeles county - I don’t know anyone who likes Newsom. He is not who we need as vice president. I voted against the recall in 2021 because I didn’t want Elder. As someone living in CA I’m at a loss what is do terrible about this man. So what’s the reason? What am I missing?
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 28, 2024 20:49:46 GMT
I don't think Buttigieg is qualified to be president. He doesn't have enough executive experience. A governor of a state has executive experience. What executive experience did Obama have? Did people have reservations about his lack of experience? Do people feel like he performed poorly as a President because of that?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 28, 2024 20:58:15 GMT
Better to ask, how much experience did TFG have for knowing how the government functions? How many bankruptcies has he had? Six+? Sure shows how well he handled finances and managed his companies? How many times had be filed suits against others, thousands! As to personnel, he was operating close to a one-man show. Answered to NO ONE!
ADD in all the assorted complaints, both business and personal, had been made, he was actually found responsible for since 1973..? Long history there!!
Buttigieg has what it takes and more... But the red morons will not consider him near acceptable. Nor will all the blues for now.
It is wrong! It should not be the case! Unfortunately had we had normalcy over the last 5 years, there might have been a different outcome!
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 28, 2024 21:15:23 GMT
Better to ask, how much experience did TFG have for knowing how the government functions? How many bankruptcies has he had? Six+? Sure shows how well he handled finances and managed his companies? How many times had be filed suits against others, thousands! As to personnel, he was operating close to a one-man show. Answered to NO ONE! ADD in all the assorted complaints, both business and personal, had been made, he was actually found responsible for since 1973..? Long history there!! Buttigieg has what it takes and more... But the red morons will not consider him near acceptable. Nor will all the blues for now. It is wrong! It should not be the case! Unfortunately had we had normalcy over the last 5 years, there might have been a different outcome! I agree. This election has to be won by Harris. I love Buttigeg. I would have no problem voting for him for President right now no matter who the Republican opponent was. The problem is is that there are Republicans who are probably on the fence about Trump and looking for an excuse to vote for Harris. If a thousand of them won't vote D because Butigeg is on the ticket since he is a gay man, then that could lose the election. I 100% understand how completely ridiculous and asinine that is. I don't agree with it, at all. But, we have to face facts there are morons in this country who will not vote for a gay man. This is not the election to worry about higher ideals. This election cannot go to Trump. Frankly I would be fine if Harris picked a non Trump Republican to run with her. Whatever it takes to get those undecided or swing votes, that is what we need. It is extremely frustrating that there are so many morons in America. It is extremely frustrating that we have to cater to them, but right now Harris needs to win. Trump must be defeated. No ifs ands or buts. We can focus on electing someone who's young and vibrant in 4 years or 8 years.
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Post by lisae on Jul 28, 2024 21:17:11 GMT
So how is Joe Biden responsible for the increase in my ginger ale? He is not. (IMO it is because Congress never raised the minimum wage and the Fed left interest rates too low for far too long following the great recession. Supressed wages finally caught up with us.) But as you said, most voters are lazy. Like it or not, lazy voters vote. People vote for the candidate they think will make the most positive difference in their lives right now. Hopefully Harris and whoever she picks will convey that message. I still don't buy that Buttigieg has enough experience. He has more than Vance but Democrats are running behind in this election and simply have to put up the best possible candidates. We don't have time to convince the public that a former mayor of a relatively small city and transportation secretary is the best we have to offer. I hope he will have his chance because I hope we have learned that there should always be a primary. Unless Harris is wildly successful and extremely popular 4 years from now, there should challengers. She can emerge as the winner or not. It's time to stop building dynasties and let us choose from a wide range of candidates.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 28, 2024 21:18:10 GMT
It’s about winning the election. Newsom is a poor choice if the dems want the White House. I’m a mid to moderate dem who lives in Los Angeles county - I don’t know anyone who likes Newsom. He is not who we need as vice president. I voted against the recall in 2021 because I didn’t want Elder. As someone living in CA I’m at a loss what is do terrible about this man. So what’s the reason? What am I missing? There are a myriad of complaints about him. Right now the biggest problem is he and Harris are both from California. Other people who don't live in the state who don't like him would be voting against him. Just like people who didn't like Biden but voted for him as a vote against Trump. There was a huge recall about him surely you remember the complaints from that time. Yes the recall was voted down, but a lot of it was because people didn't like the alternative.
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Post by lisae on Jul 28, 2024 21:18:18 GMT
Did people have reservations about his lack of experience? Oh, they definitely did but he overcame doubts and won. Time is not on our side this time and the alternative is nothing like John McCain.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 28, 2024 21:19:37 GMT
We all saw the video from the Villages and the golf cart supporters for Harris. Meidas Touch has bumped the numbers up from 200 to 500 golf carts!!
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Post by Just T on Jul 28, 2024 21:40:54 GMT
I agree. This election has to be won by Harris. I love Buttigeg. I would have no problem voting for him for President right now no matter who the Republican opponent was. The problem is is that there are Republicans who are probably on the fence about Trump and looking for an excuse to vote for Harris. If a thousand of them won't vote D because Butigeg is on the ticket since he is a gay man, then that could lose the election. I 100% understand how completely ridiculous and asinine that is. I don't agree with it, at all. But, we have to face facts there are morons in this country who will not vote for a gay man. This is not the election to worry about higher ideals. This election cannot go to Trump. Frankly I would be fine if Harris picked a non Trump Republican to run with her. Whatever it takes to get those undecided or swing votes, that is what we need. It is extremely frustrating that there are so many morons in America. It is extremely frustrating that we have to cater to them, but right now Harris needs to win. Trump must be defeated. No ifs ands or buts. We can focus on electing someone who's young and vibrant in 4 years or 8 years. I love and agree with all of this. I have also thought maybe Harris could pick a Republican who despises Trump in order to get votes from other Republicans who despise him and will vote for Kennedy just to make a point, if he ends up on the ballot. I also agree with Lisa about Kelly. I feel like that is the logical choice. He will not be hated by those who think Democrats just want to take alllll the guns away since he is not for that, even though his wife was nearly killed. And I sure would love to see him debate Vance. I am actually becoming more excited about Harris as the week has gone on. She is on fire, energetic, etc. and for once, I am actually looking forward to the political ads. ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) I am also looking forward to a debate if Trump doesn't chicken out. It will be epic. Her social media team is top notch, and I feel like that is appealing to young people. My kids, (33, 30, 29 and 26) who I said before were ready to either not vote or vote third party are all excited about Harris. I don't think she's got it wrapped up by any means, but seeing that huge golf cart parade in Trump land warmed my heart. LOL
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Post by katlady on Jul 28, 2024 21:55:26 GMT
It’s about winning the election. Newsom is a poor choice if the dems want the White House. I’m a mid to moderate dem who lives in Los Angeles county - I don’t know anyone who likes Newsom. He is not who we need as vice president. I voted against the recall in 2021 because I didn’t want Elder. As someone living in CA I’m at a loss what is do terrible about this man. So what’s the reason? What am I missing? Let’s start with 2020 and the Covid lockdowns. Everyone was told to stay home, businesses had to close, meanwhile he was caught eating out at a fancy French restaurant. When he came into office the state had a huge surplus, now it is has a huge deficit. Growing crime and homelessness. He ran on changes to medical and mental health programs but nothing has happened yet. The latest law that schools don’t have to notify parents about their child’s gender change. I personally don’t mind the guy. But lot of people just don’t like him. I don’t know what news source you watch/read, but you should read the comment sections on some of those articles. You will see how people really do not like him!
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 28, 2024 22:06:49 GMT
Let me see if I understand this. In choosing a running mate, experience doesn’t matter if the person in question can possibly get votes from one state. In short .... yes! All the other potential candidates do have some sort of political experience. Maybe not as extensive or varied as say Newsom. Look at Obama and Trump, who both had very little experience when they were voted into the highest office of the US Government! What does it matter if Newsom can get all the votes from the blue states. The Democrats also needs votes from the red states to win this election, and the red states won't vote for Newsom because he runs "Commi-fornia". We still have that thing called an Electoral College. Serious question. What is meant by “commi-fornia”? That sounds like something the right would say.
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Post by katlady on Jul 28, 2024 22:11:08 GMT
In short .... yes! All the other potential candidates do have some sort of political experience. Maybe not as extensive or varied as say Newsom. Look at Obama and Trump, who both had very little experience when they were voted into the highest office of the US Government! What does it matter if Newsom can get all the votes from the blue states. The Democrats also needs votes from the red states to win this election, and the red states won't vote for Newsom because he runs "Commi-fornia". We still have that thing called an Electoral College. Serious question. What is meant by “commi-fornia”? That sounds like something the right would say. That is what the right is saying!! They are saying California is a socialist, communist state and Newsom is the leader. And they won’t vote for someone who will turn this country into a socialist state like California. OP - This is what is out there. Not my views or opinions, just what is being said out there about California and Newsom. You really need to read the comment sections whenever there is an article about California/Newsom. You will see the “hate” out there.
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