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Post by Bridget in MD on Jul 24, 2024 14:58:35 GMT
My friend brought up an interesting point yesterday, if (when) Harris wins the election, the VP typically certifies the win (which is why there were cries to Hang Mike Pence, bc he certified Biden's win). But if she's the new president does she certify her own win? Or does it go to the speaker of the house, which we know won't go over well...  |
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Post by pinklady on Jul 24, 2024 14:59:56 GMT
I could swear I was watching CNN where they said she would certify her own win. Not sure if it's true but that's what one of the pundits said.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 24, 2024 15:07:40 GMT
My ds says he thinks it's the Senate Pro Tempore, because the Vice President is the president of the Senate, so the Pro Tem is the VP of the senate. Or something like that. haha At this time that person is Patty Murray, the senior Democrat from senator from Washington.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 24, 2024 15:09:44 GMT
My ds says he thinks it's the Senate Pro Tempore, because the Vice President is the president of the Senate, so the Pro Tem is the VP of the senate. Or something like that. haha At this time that person is Patty Murray, the senior Democrat from senator from Washington. I certainly hope so!! Maybe not.. it will be AFTER the newly elected Senators are seated! All the more reason to keep the Senate! |
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Post by hopemax on Jul 24, 2024 17:14:46 GMT
She does. The last time this happened was George H W Bush, when he won in 1988. It would have happened in 2000 if Florida turned out different.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 24, 2024 17:16:38 GMT
Oh this could get ugly. Because you know they are going to contest if they don't win and they will throw a fit if she is the one to certify it.
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Post by hopemax on Jul 24, 2024 17:42:49 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 24, 2024 20:28:19 GMT
After Jan 6, I remember someone talking about it or seeing somewhere that if VPs could refuse to certify the election that Gore would like a do over. He was VP at the time and certified George W's win Hopefully, the new law that Congress passed will make the process really clear and difficult for Republicans to protest www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/congress-approves-new-election-certification-rules-in-response-to-jan-6The new provisions make clear that the vice president’s responsibilities in the process are merely ceremonial and that the vice president has no say in determining who actually won the election.
The new legislation also raises the threshold required for members of Congress to object to certifying the electors. Before, only one member of the House and Senate respectively had to object to force a roll call vote on a state’s electors. That helped make objections to new presidents something of a routine partisan tactic — Democrats objected to certifying both of George W. Bush’s elections and Trump’s in 2016.
Those objections, however, were mainly symbolic and came after Democrats had conceded that the Republican candidates won the presidency. On Jan. 6, 2021, Republicans forced a vote on certifying Biden’s wins in Arizona and Pennsylvania even after the violent attack on the Capitol, as Trump continued to insist falsely that he won the election. That led some members of Congress to worry the process could be too easily manipulated.
Under the new rules, one-fifth of each chamber would be required to force a vote on states’ slates of electors.
The new provisions also ensure only one slate of electors makes it to Congress after Trump and his allies unsuccessfully tried to create alternative slates of electors in states Biden won. Each governor would now be required to sign off on electors, and Congress cannot consider slates submitted by different officials. The bill creates a legal process if any of those electors are challenged by a presidential candidate.
The legislation would also close a loophole that wasn’t used in 2020 but election experts feared could be, a provision that state legislatures can name electors in defiance of their state’s popular vote in the event of a “failed” election. That term has been understood to mean a contest that was disrupted or so in doubt that there’s no way to determine the actual winner, but it is not well-defined in the prior law.
Now a state could move the date of its presidential election — but only in the event of “extraordinary and catastrophic events,” like a natural disaster. |
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Post by Merge on Jul 24, 2024 20:52:14 GMT
Trump party will contest the outcome no matter what. Buckle your seatbelts.
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Post by FurryP on Jul 25, 2024 3:27:34 GMT
Trump party will contest the outcome no matter what. Buckle your seatbelts. I am soooo tired of all their shenanigans. |
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