Executive Order To Remove Homeless Camps

At least there's a plan, if not a perfect one. Human waste on the streets and public parks becoming homeless encampments does nothing to to help either the unhoused or the citizens who pay for public resources.

Horrible!! Not a solution, but yes, the waste and disease impacts are not tenable either.

CA doesn't have the room for that. They don't even keep folks who committed a crime for more than a day or so anymore. 

There is a non profit in Central CA and I love their model. It's not fully built so it's hard to say what the impact on the homeless crisis it will make but if more cities could create this type of community we may see a change. 


www.saltandlightworks.org/

Someone more informed can correct me but before the SCOTUS ruling wasn't the core issue in California that if a city didn't have enough "beds" for the unhoused, they could not remove the encampments? Every time a city tried they were taken to court and told they couldn't do it.  

With the SCOTUS ruling that being homeless is illegal that all changed. 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that was a city in Oregon or Washington State.

it was Eugene Oregon which has the highest per capita homeless population in US.

That’s what I wonder to. We have a homeless outreach with our city so they know most of the homeless and have reunited some with family including some in other states but only if they have family that will actually take them in. They have gift cards for food and such. The problem is most of the ones in our area choose to remain on the street. They can clean up a camp but they just move to another area and steal what they need to create another shelter. The process repeats. I rarely see them but others say that they shoot up on the streets and the police can’t do anything about it. I think most of ours aren’t out in the open but maybe I’m just not seeing them in my area. There were a few I would see almost daily when I was picking up my son after school but haven’t seen them since I’m not sitting in the parking lot behind a strip mall.

I just don’t see that taking money from a city is going to help. We don’t have any shelters in our area so there is no place to even attempt to send them to. I guess they will try to push them out of our city? There are people that will drive down from Orange County to beg on the weekends as we are a generous area - this is documented by police that these people aren’t homeless but just come to beg here - one is a software engineer or something like that. We do have homeless as well but different group. I wish there was more we could do about those begging - another few groups will beg with their kids and sometimes really little ones. The police say their hands are tied. They aren’t homeless a man /husband drops them off in a nice car and they have been followed home. I wish they could make no panhandling laws.

It would be nice if we could remove them as they do cause some issues at a few shopping centers. Our Target is in one of these centers. I just don’t see this as a humane solution. I guess we will see. I’m in a very red area so if they could kick them out I’m sure the Sheriff would have done so already (famous Sheriff that loves TFG and made it onto Fox during the pandemic). The city though has the outreach that works with our contracted police. I bet it’s going to get messy between city vs county on this issue soon.

I just don’t see this ending well. This doesn’t address the problem.

There are places that are building tiny home villages, too.  A village where they can provide social services seems like a good plan.  And housing first because I imagine it would be difficult for drug addicts to get clean on the streets.

There are a lot of unused office spaces now.  I know it's expensive to renovate them into apartments but it seems like such a waste to have these empty spaces and so many homeless people.

the lawsuit at the supreme court was in grants pass oregon.. which had no public services for the homeless to be housed. there is a religious shelter with very strict rules that most people wont go for.
in sf, we are trying things like giving housing, support, and health services.. and if the people struggling with drugs stay sober for a week, they get $50.. it has been successful with some. we can force the mentally ill into programs.. but there are very few beds and few have been sent. we could do more to prevent one big bill sending people into homelessness.. but low cost housing is expensive to build here.. and it will be hard to build ourselves out of the problem.

for some people, they refuse all help and shelter.. that is the toughest problem .

Glad to hear it. You only hear about the failures. If they could go it successfully I would be all for it. I just don’t want to foot huge bills. When you hear that the rent they are paying are thousands per person a month that is crazy. Although they do need services to help get them back in their feet so maybe not as bad.