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Post by onelasttime on Aug 11, 2024 2:37:25 GMT
Are facing felony charges. They need to turn themselves in by Monday. So says the SF DA.
These protestors were protesting what is going on in Gaza. They shut the bridge down for 3 hours.
The DA said while she respects a person’s right to protest, but shutting down the Bridge as long as they did cause people to be late to work & school, missed appointments and flights.
Which meant they crossed that line and are being charged.
Just heard it on the news but suspect there will be more information forthcoming.
My thoughts? Never have been a fan of protests and the GGB was part of my commute to and from work. By the time I hit the bridge I had already been on the bus for over an hour. So to be stuck on the bridge for an additional three hours I would not have been a happy camper. So I’m fine with this.
Agree with the DA charging these protestors?
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 11, 2024 2:43:55 GMT
CBS News.. link” San Francisco DA charges 26 people in connection to April protest on Golden Gate Bridge””The San Francisco District Attorney said 26 people were charged in connection with the protest that took place April 15 on the Golden Gate Bridge. All 26 people are facing 38 counts of false imprisonment, trespassing to interfere with a business, obstruction of thoroughfare, unlawful assembly, refusal to disperse at a riot and failure to obey the lawful order of a uniformed officer. DA Brooke Jenkins said eight people are facing felony conspiracy charges, while the rest were charged with misdemeanor conspiracy. Around 8 a.m. on April 15, a group of protesters blocked traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge. Chopper footage of the protest on the Golden Gate Bridge showed protesters with a banner that read "STOP THE WORLD FOR GAZA" across the southbound lanes. The protesters used chains concealed in pipes to connect themselves to each other, slowing the process of clearing the demonstration. It wasn't until noon that tow trucks began to remove vehicles from the bridge. CHP that day confirmed 26 people were arrested. However, the protesters were later released as DA Jenkins said charges were not ready to be filed. According to the DA, it's estimated that the Golden Gate Bridge District suffered around $162,000 in lost revenue, and that over 200 people called the CHP to inform them about how they were affected by the protest. The DA said some people told the CHP they missed "important medical appointments, school and flights. According to the DA one person said they missed a pre-op appointment for brain surgery, which would remove a tumor. Arrest warrants were issued, and the 26 charged have until Monday to turn themselves in to the California Highway Patrol.”
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 11, 2024 2:52:36 GMT
Good! Protest on the sidewalk, in front of a government building. But NOT on highways and freeways or roads or bridges that block others from accessing x y z.
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Post by ntsf on Aug 11, 2024 3:31:00 GMT
I agree with arrests. there are consequences for your actions. esp since SF and south have the airport, major medical centers.. and it is a big hazard to have that bridge shut for no warning. just fyi.. the bridge has been closed for weather 2 times I think in the last 40 yrs.. and it was shut down one day when it turned 50. otherwise it is an essential throughway.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 11, 2024 3:35:34 GMT
Good, I'm glad to hear this. I have zero patience for protestors that block highways, bridges, and put people at risk.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 11, 2024 3:41:43 GMT
Fine by me. Closing down public roads puts lives in danger, aside from inconveniencing just about everyone in the vicinity.
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Post by snyder on Aug 11, 2024 3:46:51 GMT
Absolutely agree with this. Your have a right to protest, but you don't have a right to interfere with my rights.
I'm curious how many will turn themselves in or how do they know who the protestors are to arrest if none volunteer to admit it.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 11, 2024 14:30:24 GMT
I agree with charging protesters who block roads. I was really scared during the George Floyd protests, because I needed to get to and from the U of M hospital to be with my DH. I was also afraid his ambulance would not get through. The hospital was close enough the National Guard were there to protect it.
Not only emergency services need to get through. Think about parents and caregivers trying to get home!
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Post by seaexplore on Aug 11, 2024 15:00:03 GMT
Absolutely agree!
I assume they know who the 26 are because they were arrested and not held?
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Post by librarylady on Aug 11, 2024 16:08:46 GMT
Works for me.
I anticipate the protestors saying "We have right to protest!" That will be followed with DA saying you are not being charged with protesting, but charged with blocking traffic....and so the courts will be holding trials for awhile.
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Post by malibou on Aug 11, 2024 16:17:48 GMT
Ds was caught in that mess and it caused his friend to miss a flight to India to see his ailing grandfather, who died 6 hours after friend's plane landed without him on it.
I can imagine way worse stories than this happened that day. Ds said there were people getting out of cars and trying to push thru that were sobbing and crying and begging to get thru.
Bring on the charges.
There are definitely ways to protest that get your message across without causing additional harm.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 11, 2024 16:26:37 GMT
I agree with everything everyone has already said. I've been caught in a few of these here in the DC area, but fortunately it was never a bridge (I mean, I'm sure they've tried a bridge, it's just that I've never been caught in one of those). It's the emergency workers who I always worry about... ambulances, fire trucks. What if it was one of those protestor's houses burning down while the fire truck was stuck because of them blocking the road? Or their parent having a heart attack and the ambulance couldn't get through?
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Post by peabay on Aug 11, 2024 17:42:29 GMT
Yeah - count me in with those who think there are better ways to get your message across. And I think they alienate people who might align with them, which is a shame. I hear their complaints and I think some are valid (when they veer toward anti-semitism, they lose me) but risking other people's lives isn't the way to do it.
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Post by compeateropeator on Aug 11, 2024 17:55:56 GMT
Another that is fine with this as there are other places and/or ways to protest without endangering people, which obstructing a bridge would do IMO. Secondly, actions have consequences, if you are not willing to accept the consequences don’t do the actions.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 11, 2024 18:04:49 GMT
I'm okay with it.
I'm not completely against shutting down roads as long as there are alternative routes (amd we shut down roads for parades and fares), but a bridge strands people.
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Post by melanell on Aug 12, 2024 11:40:16 GMT
I am all for peaceful protests, BUT I will not side with people whose protest techniques put other people in danger. And by blocking a road, particularly busy roads/bridges/etc., in general, protestors can put others in danger.
If I'm calling 911 for someone, and first responders have to take a longer alternate route to my location because protestors have blocked the faster route to us, those protestors are possibly endangering a life. And yes, I understand that many times lives are at stake in the situation being protested. But I don't see how putting more innocent people at possible risk helps with the original problem.
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Post by melanell on Aug 12, 2024 11:45:08 GMT
I'm not completely against shutting down roads as long as there are alternative routes (amd we shut down roads for parades and fares), but a bridge strands people. I agree. If protestors discussed where they were going to shut down streets ahead of time, with the local police, fire, and ambulance, as organizers of parades or events have to do; and if those entities agreed to the shut-down, along with the timing and length of time the area would be shut down, AND additional emergency response was brought in to be on hand due to the the event occurring, then I would feel differently than I currently do. But given the road/bridge choices I see made in some of these protests, I doubt this is always the case.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 12, 2024 11:51:46 GMT
I am fine with charging them. Protesting is fine, but preventing flights, emergency vehicles, preventing parents from picking up their kids-those are not fine. What if there was a vehicle with a heart for a transplant in the queue? What if an ambulance was on its way to a hospital?
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 12, 2024 13:29:27 GMT
I am fine with charging them. Protesting is fine, but preventing flights, emergency vehicles, preventing parents from picking up their kids-those are not fine. What if there was a vehicle with a heart for a transplant in the queue? What if an ambulance was on its way to a hospital? I was at the ER at a trauma 1 center and in rushed the transplant team from LA. They came by vehicle and we're coming for a heart. The day prior protestors blocked a major section of LA freeway that the hospital would have most likely used. I couldn't imagine being the patient or family in LA if the vehicle had been blocked on the way home or going to retrieve the organ. *The 2 hospitals are an hour away from each other so maybe that is why the heli wasn't used. I have witnessed a gurney with the cooler coming off mercy air / life flight before but found out it was out of state*
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Post by melanell on Aug 12, 2024 14:35:06 GMT
preventing parents from picking up their kids I didn't even think of that. Daycares have policies to call police if children are not picked up by certain times. What a nightmare for a parent to go through just because they didn't realize they were driving into a mess they wouldn't be able to free themselves from.
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