huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Aug 14, 2024 17:07:22 GMT
On Facebook, I have some friends who post their child's name as (Example: John Michael last name) and the other child is just Kevin last name. If the person posts the child with both first and middle name, does the parent call them by both names?
The only time I ever used my children's first and middle name is when they were in trouble.
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The Birdhouse Lady
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Aug 14, 2024 17:15:06 GMT
Not necessarily, I have new grandson and when people ask what his name is I say first middle and last name. But in real life we just call him by his first name.
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Post by malibou on Aug 14, 2024 17:20:20 GMT
My guess would be he goes by both. Especially if the first name is super common and one syllable, like your example John, or a family name that is being used over and over with different middle names.
I use ds first and middle name when I am trying to get his attention.
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Post by gar on Aug 14, 2024 17:21:45 GMT
When a baby is newborn and someone asks their name I would likely say both but we don't call them by both names after that. The only exception to that is if we're saying it in mock horror and the same with my DDs, I only use their middle names if we're messing about and I say their names in pretend shock or anger.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Aug 14, 2024 17:22:44 GMT
I think in your example that the parents would call them as they posted it. I wouldn't ever post one kid's name to include the middle name, and the other kid's name to not include it, unless that's what I actually called him/her.
Coincidentally, my friend is raising her grandson and his name is John Michael. He gets called John Michael and also just John.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 14, 2024 17:26:51 GMT
I have some relatives who often post the first and middle names of the kids and for some reason it kind of annoys me. I don’t know if it is the parents generation (millennials), their regional location, or what. Sometimes they call the kids by both names but most of the time not.
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Post by disneypal on Aug 14, 2024 17:28:51 GMT
If the person posts the child with both first and middle name, does the parent call them by both names? I think in general, yes. I have some friends that call their children by their first and middle name. For example: I have two friends and they both have daughters named Ella Grace. One calls their daughter Ella, but the other calls their daughter Ella Grace (and will quickly correct you if you just say "Ella") (Note: these 2 friends of mine do not know each other) If your friend used first & middle for one of their kids and just first for another one of their kids, I would assume that is what they call them.
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Post by KelleeM on Aug 14, 2024 18:11:56 GMT
My son is a junior. When I was pregnant, 30 years ago, I could not see calling a baby George. I finally told my then dh if his name was going to be George Michael *last name* Junior that I was going to call him George Michael. For the first 5 or so years of his life 95% of people called him George Michael. As he got older it because George or GM. I still call him George Michael sometimes but most often it’s just G.
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Post by questioning on Aug 14, 2024 18:19:51 GMT
I have a friend with two sons, the youngest, coincidently, is called John Micheal. The oldest is just Simon (not his actual first name to protect the innocent). I've had the same question as OP myself. Is it like being a Mary Kate, with a sister named Tiffany? Is there something historical that causes this?
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Aug 14, 2024 18:25:28 GMT
Can't speak for everyone, but all the ones I can think of... The kid (or adult) goes by both names.
My Uncle is Richard Cullen Lastname. My cousin, his son, is Richard John Lastname. Everyone calls my Uncle Big Richard (but that was before there was a little one lol) and my cousin Richard John, or Little Ricky.
If my mom wrote on FB directed to, or about my cousin, she would totally call him Richard John. Probably so would I.... but I have a much much more active relationship with him than most of my family, and no relationship with my Uncle... so... I might simply call him Richard.
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Post by peabay on Aug 14, 2024 18:25:56 GMT
I have a couple of people in my life who call their kids by the first and middle name. Typically when the child is named after one of the parents (e.g. I have a "Paul Michael" with a father named "Paul" in my family). I think that's likely the case.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 14, 2024 18:28:19 GMT
1. In the south many people use both names. 2. In our family, there are about 8 males named John, so some of them are called by both names.
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Post by Merge on Aug 14, 2024 18:47:55 GMT
My husband has several cousins with two names. Catholic family. Mary Frances, Mary Agnes, John Michael, etc. They use both names.
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 14, 2024 18:54:34 GMT
It’s common in my family to use the full two names — think John Matthew or Mary Ann (tee hee). Others only use their first name, or in some cases the middle name (John Michael goes by Michael and Michael Bruce goes by Bruce). So confusing, but that’s family, isn’t it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2024 18:54:48 GMT
I often would say dd's first and middle name to people. At least when she was younger. We rarely use both, but we do often call her by a variation of her middle name. It's Grace and we call her Gracie. But she doesn't allow most people to call her that, almost everyone else has to call her by her first name. Only her uncle and boyfriend can call her Gracie. I don't know why but that's how it's always been and she gets very annoyed if anyone else tries it.
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Post by mom on Aug 14, 2024 20:11:01 GMT
One of my sons has has a family name that there are multiple living relatives still using, so we call DS2 by his first and middle so we are clear on who we are discussing.
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Post by Zee on Aug 14, 2024 20:17:36 GMT
I have some relatives who often post the first and middle names of the kids and for some reason it kind of annoys me. I don’t know if it is the parents generation (millennials), their regional location, or what. Sometimes they call the kids by both names but most of the time not. The millennial parents do like to do this with their 44-month-olds as daddy twirls his Dastardly Dan moustache (not that he knows who that is) and asks little Liam Cole and Walker Steele and Delilah Elizabeth-Jade to "look with your eyes, not your hands" while chaos occurs. 😁🤣
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Post by twinks on Aug 14, 2024 20:19:59 GMT
I wanted my DD to be called by her first name, which is really 2 first names. For example Ann Elizabeth. The lady who came to pick up the birth certificate information commented that people would call her Ann. I added a middle name. Gratefully most people call her by her double first name. She introduces herself as such.
Funny story when we went to our first pediatrician visit. I signed her in as double first name. I sat there waiting and waiting to be called. Finally the receptionist can up and asked why I wasn’t responding. They were calling DD by only 1 first name. We laughed and they changed it.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 14, 2024 20:31:27 GMT
I don’t know anyone IRL that calls their kid by both names on a regular basis, but I know quite a few kids who go by the initials of both names (TJ, AJ, RJ, etc.). And I know a LOT of people who use a longer formal version of a name for their young kid (Maxwell instead of Max, Andrew instead of Andy or Drew, Jonathan instead of Jon, etc.).
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 14, 2024 20:39:21 GMT
My cousins are #1 Georgina Alice last name. #2 Ann (no E) Last name.
That's it. #2 has no middle name at all, in fact her name has less letters then her sister's first name.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 14, 2024 21:10:06 GMT
If the person posts the child with both first and middle name, does the parent call them by both names? IME, yes. DD had a classmate named John Patrick. I don't know the backstory of how/why he was always John Patrick, but the family would correct anyone that just shortened it to John. As he got older, much to his mom's dismay and all attempts to stop it, he became known as JP to friends, teammates, teachers, etc. IMHO, it is not much different that someone naming their child Samantha or Christopher and trying to block the use of Sam or Chris. My husband has several cousins with two names. Catholic family. Mary Frances, Mary Agnes, John Michael, etc. They use both names. I have a friend Mary Beth who is one of seven sisters, all named Mary something (Mary Louise, Mary Ann, Mary Rose, Mary Alice, Mary Mary, etc.). They never drop the Mary's when talking to/about each other.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Aug 14, 2024 21:38:40 GMT
1. In the south many people use both names. It's fairly common in the south. My youngest son was called by two names until about middle school when he elected to drop the middle name. I still think of him as the two-name version in my head even though I only speak the single name. Extended family and friends we only see once-in-a-blue-moon sometimes still call him by the two-name version as that's what they remember.
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Post by melanell on Aug 14, 2024 21:52:20 GMT
In the specific situation you're describing, I would guess that they call the child by both names at least a good amount of the time.
In my own friends/family, the people with kids who have dual first names tend to either write out both names in a post, or if they're in a hurry, the use abbreviations for the child with the double name, even if they don't call them that.
So a family with Aaron, Ben, & Cayley Mae will either write out those 3 names, or write Aaron, Ben & CM. But they do typically refer to Cayley Mae by both names.
I know in at least one case a friend specifically writes out both names anytime she can to emphasize that they son uses both names, because people tend to drop the second name. He has a trendier first name coupled with a more traditional middle name, and I think people tend to imagine it's just a middle name that got included in paperwork accidentally or something. Like a baby boy born in the last few years being called Liam Carl. Baby boy name #1 on the popularity list, and then a much less popular name.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Aug 14, 2024 22:25:27 GMT
If the person posts the child with both first and middle name, does the parent call them by both names? IME, yes. DD had a classmate named John Patrick. I don't know the backstory of how/why he was always John Patrick, but the family would correct anyone that just shortened it to John. As he got older, much to his mom's dismay and all attempts to stop it, he became known as JP to friends, teammates, teachers, etc. IMHO, it is not much different that someone naming their child Samantha or Christopher and trying to block the use of Sam or Chris. My husband has several cousins with two names. Catholic family. Mary Frances, Mary Agnes, John Michael, etc. They use both names. I have a friend Mary Beth who is one of seven sisters, all named Mary something (Mary Louise, Mary Ann, Mary Rose, Mary Alice, Mary Mary, etc.). They never drop the Mary's when talking to/about each other. Mary Mary? Really? May I ask why someone would be given the same name twice? In the UK parents went through the fashion of adding Mae/May or Rose to their girls' name, so there are a gazillion kids called Gracie Mae, Sophie May, Lily May, Daisy Mae, Ava Rose, Amelia Rose, Olivia Rose and all the different permutations. They are known by both names. And it will date them. This doesn't seem to have happened with boys. But mostly, middle names are there to carry the family tradition on. Our niece and nephew both have trendy first names, and middle names after grandparents. They are not used except in legal documents and when said child has done something naughty.
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Post by Linda on Aug 14, 2024 23:24:26 GMT
I think sometimes it's a double barrel first name rather than a first and middle.
It's fairly common here (Florida) to give double barrel names - and I hear it with seniors all the way down to babies. Peggy Sue, Mary Margaret, John-Michael, etc...
A friend of my daughter's uses a double barrel first name because she was adopted as 2nd or 3rd grader so her mum kept her birth first name and middle name BUT her birth first name rhymed with her new last name so they added a second first name and always called her by both of the first names
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Post by gryroagain on Aug 15, 2024 3:32:19 GMT
I think sometimes it's a double barrel first name rather than a first and middle. It's fairly common here (Florida) to give double barrel names - and I hear it with seniors all the way down to babies. Peggy Sue, Mary Margaret, John-Michael, etc... A friend of my daughter's uses a double barrel first name because she was adopted as 2nd or 3rd grader so her mum kept her birth first name and middle name BUT her birth first name rhymed with her new last name so they added a second first name and always called her by both of the first names When I lived in the south I knew several families with children who went by John Michael or Peggy Due or what have you. I always assumed it was first and middle name but- no. The children also had middle names, their first names were just 2 names. so it really depends.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 15, 2024 4:17:46 GMT
Hmmm, that seems odd. I would have assumed that it was a double barrelled first name. I don't know anyone who calls their kid by their first and middle name - unless they're really angry with them! This seems like the place to ask a question of my own, if you'll pardon my intrusion huskergal ! Up until about four years ago, the company I work for was owned by an American company. For the most part, we didn't have much to do with the US side of things, until probably the last few years before they sold us off. One thing we noticed, that was different to what we were used to, was a lot of people in the US side of the business used their First name - Middle Initial - Last Name in their correspondence and email signatures. So while we (Aussies) would have Paul Simpson in the email, the Americans would have Paul J Simpson. Is that common practice? At first I though it was because there may have been several Paul Simpsons, and that was the way to differentiate, but when I checked the directory, there often wasn't another person with the same name. Oh, I should add that it was mostly the higher up executives who did the First name - Middle Initial - Last Name thing. Not the plebs like me!
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Aug 15, 2024 13:05:41 GMT
The love for the name Mary runs deep in that family. And Mary Mary?! I'm curious if any of the Marys used the name with their daughters. Are they continuing the tradition?
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Post by artbabe on Aug 15, 2024 13:17:35 GMT
I go by Tracy and my sister goes by (first name) Jo. I'm not sure why- it just happened. I just think Jo is easy to tack on to the first name. I'm not a fan of my middle name so I'm glad they didn't use both.
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Post by artbabe on Aug 15, 2024 13:20:40 GMT
This seems like the place to ask a question of my own, if you'll pardon my intrusion huskergal ! Up until about four years ago, the company I work for was owned by an American company. For the most part, we didn't have much to do with the US side of things, until probably the last few years before they sold us off. One thing we noticed, that was different to what we were used to, was a lot of people in the US side of the business used their First name - Middle Initial - Last Name in their correspondence and email signatures. So while we (Aussies) would have Paul Simpson in the email, the Americans would have Paul J Simpson. Is that common practice? At first I though it was because there may have been several Paul Simpsons, and that was the way to differentiate, but when I checked the directory, there often wasn't another person with the same name. I use my middle initial when I write my signature and on my emails. I think it is pretty common here.
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