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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2024 21:36:29 GMT
Sometimes I wonder what kind of alternate reality we're living in. There have been changes in favor of religion that I never thought would happen in my lifetime. All of these steps towards a Christian theocracy are alarming. Especially in light of the declining number of people participating in organized religion. This ultra right conservative Supreme court seems willing to expand religious rights and side with religious entities over anyone else. They're willing to carve out exceptions for birth control mandates and covid restrictions, and allow adoption agencies to discriminate against gay parents. Conservative justices sided with a football coach who prayed before a game. Conservative justices allowed Maine tax dollars to go to religious schools. The ultra conservative court is endorsing Christian nationalism and prioritizing the freedom of religion while ignoring the separation of church and state. Pretty soon, the separation will be non-existent. The intrusion of religion into schools is really concerning, too. In Louisiana, schools are required to post the 10 commandments. The Oklahoma Superintendent of schools declared that teachers must incorporate the Christian bible into teaching. Also in Oklahoma, they tried to set up a religious charter school but it was struck down by the Oklahoma Supreme Court. Public schools should not be religious and religious schools should not be funded with public tax dollars. www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/oklahomas-top-education-official-orders-schools-to-incorporate-christian-bible-into-teaching“The Bible is an indispensable historical and cultural touchstone,” Walters said in a statement. “Without basic knowledge of it, Oklahoma students are unable to properly contextualize the foundation of our nation which is why Oklahoma educational standards provide for its instruction.”This guy makes a great argument against religion in schools. Public schools are not Sunday schools. x.com/jamestalarico/status/1823862348236632392Public schools are not Sunday schools
James Talarico @jamestalarico Texas Republicans are trying to teach Bible stories in public schools.
I told them: “Public schools are not Sunday schools.”
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Post by pinklady on Aug 15, 2024 21:42:59 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 15, 2024 22:47:32 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states. My area has 3 potential school board members who belong to an officer shoot of 412 Church with Tim Thompson who helped the guy in Temecula get on the board and cause all those issues. Anyways the church here has been praying that they win and that they are from Heaven so we can take over public Ed. Sonja and a few others work with the 3 to boost their names. Will they win? 90% sure they won't but there is that 10%...and it has me a bit nervous I know in a few other southern CA cities they are trying to do a take over too. So while CA as a whole is blue, groups are trying to infiltrate local elections.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 15, 2024 22:51:36 GMT
Check out this group on Instagram. You will get a lot of info about how far right but jobs are trying to ruin public Ed in CA as well as within city council positions. It's mostly that city but they talk about other southern CA cities as well and all the connections as well as connections to larger groups out of state.
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Post by pilcas on Aug 15, 2024 23:13:26 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states. And I love New York for the same reason! Or maybe I should say NYC, we have some strange ones in our rural areas too.
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Post by Merge on Aug 15, 2024 23:48:49 GMT
Sometimes I wonder what kind of alternate reality we're living in. There have been changes in favor of religion that I never thought would happen in my lifetime. All of these steps towards a Christian theocracy are alarming. Especially in light of the declining number of people participating in organized religion. This ultra right conservative Supreme court seems willing to expand religious rights and side with religious entities over anyone else. They're willing to carve out exceptions for birth control mandates and covid restrictions, and allow adoption agencies to discriminate against gay parents. Conservative justices sided with a football coach who prayed before a game. Conservative justices allowed Maine tax dollars to go to religious schools. The ultra conservative court is endorsing Christian nationalism and prioritizing the freedom of religion while ignoring the separation of church and state. Pretty soon, the separation will be non-existent. The intrusion of religion into schools is really concerning, too. In Louisiana, schools are required to post the 10 commandments. The Oklahoma Superintendent of schools declared that teachers must incorporate the Christian bible into teaching. Also in Oklahoma, they tried to set up a religious charter school but it was struck down by the Oklahoma Supreme Court. Public schools should not be religious and religious schools should not be funded with public tax dollars. www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/oklahomas-top-education-official-orders-schools-to-incorporate-christian-bible-into-teaching“The Bible is an indispensable historical and cultural touchstone,” Walters said in a statement. “Without basic knowledge of it, Oklahoma students are unable to properly contextualize the foundation of our nation which is why Oklahoma educational standards provide for its instruction.”This guy makes a great argument against religion in schools. Public schools are not Sunday schools. x.com/jamestalarico/status/1823862348236632392Public schools are not Sunday schools
James Talarico @jamestalarico Texas Republicans are trying to teach Bible stories in public schools.
I told them: “Public schools are not Sunday schools.”Weird. I would be more inclined to say some study of the bible as literature, at the appropriate age, is necessary for understanding some of our great art and literature. Students also need to be familiar with Greek mythology for that reason. (Imagine the outrage if a school offered a course in "Christian mythology" instead of the bible. So many pearls would be clutched!) I don't think the bible necessary for understanding the founding of our country at all. That's just their bullshit. A good understanding of history - including religious absolutism and persecution - and Enlightenment philosophy is far more important.
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Post by Merge on Aug 15, 2024 23:52:36 GMT
Also: every state has its issues. Yes, red states like Texas are pretty f'd up right now. But you blue state snobs who look down on everyone else should take care of your own issues before you start criticizing where other people live.
Most can't afford to move.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 16, 2024 1:00:07 GMT
Also: every state has its issues. Yes, red states like Texas are pretty f'd up right now. But you blue state snobs who look down on everyone else should take care of your own issues before you start criticizing where other people live. Most can't afford to move. Mine used to be purple/but now more blue. I don't think I am a blue state snob. I can't imagine living in a lot of states, but that isn't due to politics as much as weather and cost of living. (I know our cost of living is cheap either.)
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Post by Tearisci on Aug 16, 2024 1:12:20 GMT
Also: every state has its issues. Yes, red states like Texas are pretty f'd up right now. But you blue state snobs who look down on everyone else should take care of your own issues before you start criticizing where other people live. Most can't afford to move. I'm in this boat. I moved from a really blue area to Texas and because of taking care of family, I can't move. I'm doing my part to get the blue vote out but it's tough in this state. I just got a Kamala sign for my yard and wonder if it will still be standing in a couple of days, but living in a red state is tough!
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Post by ellen on Aug 16, 2024 1:18:23 GMT
Also: every state has its issues. Yes, red states like Texas are pretty f'd up right now. But you blue state snobs who look down on everyone else should take care of your own issues before you start criticizing where other people live. Most can't afford to move. I feel fortunate to live where I do, but mainly I feel bad for the citizens of your state who will suffer under some of the laws they have passed. I think it would be very stressful to have daughters of child bearing age. I feel a great deal of urgency to get Kamala Harris elected and as many blue legislators as possible so that they codify Roe. The Texas grid stresses me out when it makes the news. In Minnesota we saw on our local news just how quickly Wisconsin went from being a blue state to being a red state that made it about impossible to elect Democrats to their state legislature. It has taken a lot of work and time just to win seats on their state Supreme Court. They have one Democratic senator, but they re-elected Ron Johnson two years ago - so disappointing. They have a Democratic governor but they’ve made it so hard for him to exercise power. They are purple and working their way to blue, but it takes so long. Minnesota was about 12,000 votes away from losing all three branches of our state government at the same time. We elected a Democratic governor that kept us out of that situation. Things can change quickly with one bad election.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 16, 2024 1:35:57 GMT
Also: every state has its issues. Yes, red states like Texas are pretty f'd up right now. But you blue state snobs who look down on everyone else should take care of your own issues before you start criticizing where other people live. Most can't afford to move. I feel lucky to live in a swing state, but a lot of people don't really have a choice where they live - cost of living, job, career, family, military commitment etc. And things are far from perfect in NH. We have some hard core conservatives in our state house who voted to secede. And a tea party Republican running for governor who I don't trust, she could try to pass abortion restrictions. Our current governor was reasonable, he even criticized Trump until he cowardly bent the knee and endorsed Trump, like almost every other Republican. Even though the state has been trending blue lately, like Ellen said, we are only 1 bad election away from being a red state. And all of us, regardless of where we live, regrettably, are stuck with the current Supreme Court and all of those unfortunate repercussions.
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Post by peano on Aug 16, 2024 2:20:13 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states. Hey, I live in Connecticut, a reliably blue state. And yet last year, in my well-educated, upper-income town, we had an attempted book ban led by Republican school board members, who quietly tried sneaking their beliefs into policy, efforts which stemmed directly from Moms for Liberty. So I wouldn't be so smug about where you live. The people who do this are sneaky little weasels who take advantage of peoples' busyness and sadly, apathy. Busyness and apathy aren't just in communities like mine; they're also in the "F'd up backwards states" you criticize. Once their tactics were exposed, people came out in force to oppose their efforts, and the three ringleaders resigned from the board.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 16, 2024 2:34:19 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states. Hey, I live in Connecticut, a reliably blue state. And yet last year, in my well-educated, upper-income town, we had an attempted book ban led by Republican school board members, who quietly tried sneaking their beliefs into policy, efforts which stemmed directly from Moms for Liberty. So I wouldn't be so smug about where you live. The people who do this are sneaky little weasels who take advantage of peoples' busyness and sadly, apathy. Busyness and apathy aren't just in communities like mine; they're also in the "F'd up backwards states" you criticize. Once their tactics were exposed, people came out in force to oppose their efforts, and the three ringleaders resigned from the board. Exactly so thanks for confirming what I said. In your reliably blue state, it was attempted and thwarted. Signed, a proud blue state snob.
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Post by katlady on Aug 16, 2024 2:58:56 GMT
My area has 3 potential school board members who belong to an officer shoot of 412 Church with Tim Thompson who helped the guy in Temecula get on the board and cause all those issues. Anyways the church here has been praying that they win and that they are from Heaven so we can take over public Ed. The school board president was just ousted, but narrowly. The vote was 51% to oust him. People forget that it is mainly the coastal areas of California that are blue. And these areas tend to the have the largest cities. San Diego County was red until only about 20 years ago. Lot of the east county is still very red.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 16, 2024 3:13:47 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states. Hey, I live in Connecticut, a reliably blue state. And yet last year, in my well-educated, upper-income town, we had an attempted book ban led by Republican school board members, who quietly tried sneaking their beliefs into policy, efforts which stemmed directly from Moms for Liberty. So I wouldn't be so smug about where you live. The people who do this are sneaky little weasels who take advantage of peoples' busyness and sadly, apathy. Busyness and apathy aren't just in communities like mine; they're also in the "F'd up backwards states" you criticize. Once their tactics were exposed, people came out in force to oppose their efforts, and the three ringleaders resigned from the board. I’m curious what was done to make them resign? We have three moms for liberty type school board members who won primarily because they advertised themselves as a “trio” and there were too many other people running and the vote was split too many ways. But they have been horrible. We have three more spots open in November and of course three more of them (although they say they are running on their own, but have the same talking points and agenda) and three good candidates.
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Post by smasonnc on Aug 16, 2024 14:58:07 GMT
As someone from Florida, I get it. Morons for Liberty is very active here, but if I leave, which I won’t, who will fight them?
I object to Christianity being shoved down everyone’s throats. However, I have always said that students should have to take a comparative religion class where they study ALL religions in an academic context. We studied Christianity, Judaism, and Islam in Social Studies class and it made World History make a lot more sense. In DD’s elementary school the Jewish, Hindu, and Buddhist moms came and talked about their traditions. Then the Christian moms came in demanding equal time by having a birthday party for Baby Jesus and they shut it all down. They had a living encyclopedia and the God Squad f*&$ed it up for everybody. 😡
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 16, 2024 15:41:15 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states. I grew up in the red part of California and I not only absolutely could envision this based on what I experienced growing up, but have heard from friends who live up a little further into the red that their schools are becoming hotbeds of antisemitism and Christian nationalism.
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Post by casii on Aug 16, 2024 15:55:45 GMT
I live in what is considered a blue state, but has some very definite red strongholds including one I was gerrymandered in to which gave me a Trumpy rep who paid for a bus to head to DC on J6. He ran for governor and lost, thank goodness. But in more than one county, Moms For Liberty is trying to get booked banned in schools. They ran 3 candidates for school board here. 2 didn't make past primaries, but the worst did, so she'll be on the ballot this fall. The religious right is loud and they will take over anywhere, even in safe blue havens so we need to be vigilant.
My MIL is a teacher in OK and she sent a text yesterday saying there will be a bible in each classroom starting this year, so she also brought a bible from home. I didn't really know how to respond to that. DH took up the conversation into how was the beginning of school looking questions. But OK Peas, what's the plan other than mandating a bible in classrooms? Is there a curriculum? Teachers can decide for themselves? How quickly can you boot Ryan Walters out?
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Post by peano on Aug 16, 2024 17:24:30 GMT
Hey, I live in Connecticut, a reliably blue state. And yet last year, in my well-educated, upper-income town, we had an attempted book ban led by Republican school board members, who quietly tried sneaking their beliefs into policy, efforts which stemmed directly from Moms for Liberty. So I wouldn't be so smug about where you live. The people who do this are sneaky little weasels who take advantage of peoples' busyness and sadly, apathy. Busyness and apathy aren't just in communities like mine; they're also in the "F'd up backwards states" you criticize. Once their tactics were exposed, people came out in force to oppose their efforts, and the three ringleaders resigned from the board. I’m curious what was done to make them resign? We have three moms for liberty type school board members who won primarily because they advertised themselves as a “trio” and there were too many other people running and the vote was split too many ways. But they have been horrible. We have three more spots open in November and of course three more of them (although they say they are running on their own, but have the same talking points and agenda) and three good candidates. I don't know if anything was done to make them resign. I'm sure there's a backstory I'm not privy to--the battle was raging pretty fiercely and then they were gone is all I know. I got the feeling they couldn't stand the heat so they got out of the kitchen.
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Post by dawnnikol on Aug 16, 2024 23:37:49 GMT
I don't care what religion people want to believe in, but pushing those beliefs into public schools is ridiculous. The hypocrisy knows no bounds and I'm really sick of it.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 18, 2024 3:05:19 GMT
Also: every state has its issues. Yes, red states like Texas are pretty f'd up right now. But you blue state snobs who look down on everyone else should take care of your own issues before you start criticizing where other people live. Most can't afford to move. As someone from a Blue State my problem with Red states are with the voters who have turned these states red and have kept them red by supporting that piece of shit below and the rest of the Republicans in office. I just don’t get it. In 2020 trump got over 74 million votes after 4 years of hell. The biggie being him mishandling of the pandemic. Every time he talks about it I wonder how many Americans would be alive today if had been true leader during the pandemic. And since then he was convicted of 30+ charges, has been found to have sexually assaulted a woman, has 3 additional pending indictments, keeps claiming the 2020 election was stolen but offers no verifiable proof etc etc etc. And in spite all of this he’s above 40% in the polls. So yeah, my problem in the red stares is with the voters who continue to vote red. One really has to question their judgement. “Donald Trump gave a speech in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania and did the following: 1. He said he is a “better looking person than Kamala.” 2. He said he “loves the playback controls that exist nowadays” and “TiVo is the best invention.” 3. He said VP Harris “laughs like a lunatic” and therefore “she is prohibited from laughing.” 4. He said Time Magazine didn’t take a good photo of VP Harris so they needed a sketch artist. This makes him upset. 5. He is upset now that VP Harris looked like Sophia Loren or Elizabeth Taylor on the Time Magazine cover. 6. He said “they say I ramble. But I don’t ramble. I’m a really smart guy.” 7. He said “Biden hates Kamala. He hates her.” 8. He said he should be paid $100 million for Biden being replaced by VP Harris. 9. He randomly said “Barack Hussein Obama.” 10. He said climate change is good because it will give us more beachfront property. 11. He said our country “ will die.” 12. He said he hopes we “enjoy” an economic depression. Here are the receipts youtu.be/LbIq0uzfdPM?si…”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2024 5:13:53 GMT
I know MAL will go under before most of the rest of us!!
He will never be welcomed back into NYC!
He wears more makeup then Kamala Harris does!!
But mostly projection!
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Post by Merge on Aug 18, 2024 15:50:04 GMT
Also: every state has its issues. Yes, red states like Texas are pretty f'd up right now. But you blue state snobs who look down on everyone else should take care of your own issues before you start criticizing where other people live. Most can't afford to move. As someone from a Blue State my problem with Red states are with the voters who have turned these states red and have kept them red by supporting that piece of shit below and the rest of the Republicans in office. I just don’t get it. In 2020 trump got over 74 million votes after 4 years of hell. The biggie being him mishandling of the pandemic. Every time he talks about it I wonder how many Americans would be alive today if had been true leader during the pandemic. And since then he was convicted of 30+ charges, has been found to have sexually assaulted a woman, has 3 additional pending indictments, keeps claiming the 2020 election was stolen but offers no verifiable proof etc etc etc. And in spite all of this he’s above 40% in the polls. So yeah, my problem in the red stares is with the voters who continue to vote red. One really has to question their judgement. “Donald Trump gave a speech in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania and did the following: 1. He said he is a “better looking person than Kamala.” 2. He said he “loves the playback controls that exist nowadays” and “TiVo is the best invention.” 3. He said VP Harris “laughs like a lunatic” and therefore “she is prohibited from laughing.” 4. He said Time Magazine didn’t take a good photo of VP Harris so they needed a sketch artist. This makes him upset. 5. He is upset now that VP Harris looked like Sophia Loren or Elizabeth Taylor on the Time Magazine cover. 6. He said “they say I ramble. But I don’t ramble. I’m a really smart guy.” 7. He said “Biden hates Kamala. He hates her.” 8. He said he should be paid $100 million for Biden being replaced by VP Harris. 9. He randomly said “Barack Hussein Obama.” 10. He said climate change is good because it will give us more beachfront property. 11. He said our country “ will die.” 12. He said he hopes we “enjoy” an economic depression. Here are the receipts youtu.be/LbIq0uzfdPM?si…” There are Republican voters in California. They gave us Ronald Reagan in 1980 and started this whole shitshow. My issue with blue state snobbery is that first, Texas went red in the mid 90s, when it wasn't such an overtly bad thing to be. What's happened since then is sort of a frog being put in cold water then slowly boiled to death thing. The shift to Republican tyranny through gerrymandering and voter suppression, and now Trump cultism, was slow and not noticeable to most. By the time we were in real trouble, it was too late. Where I get mad is when blue-staters act like their states are problem-free utopias (I've visited most of them - they're not) or that Democrats in Texas are to blame for their own oppression, either because we stay here or because we can't magically undo the decades of careful incremental power grabs by Republicans and take our state back. We hear "vote harder" but your Democratic reps federal level can't seem to pass voting rights legislation to protect our right to vote and have it count. We hear "just leave" but any rational person knows that most people can't just up and move. Most blue states are either not places with tons of jobs (New Mexico) or have an insanely high cost of living in the areas where there are jobs. And the blue state Democrats often help keep their cost of living high with NIMBY laws that protect generational real estate wealth and prevent the building of affordable housing! It seems they don't really want red-staters to be able to move there; they just want to flog us for staying where we are. Anyway. That's all I mean by blue state snobbery. For those to whom that doesn't apply, carry on.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 19, 2024 1:38:46 GMT
As someone from a Blue State my problem with Red states are with the voters who have turned these states red and have kept them red by supporting that piece of shit below and the rest of the Republicans in office. I just don’t get it. In 2020 trump got over 74 million votes after 4 years of hell. The biggie being him mishandling of the pandemic. Every time he talks about it I wonder how many Americans would be alive today if had been true leader during the pandemic. And since then he was convicted of 30+ charges, has been found to have sexually assaulted a woman, has 3 additional pending indictments, keeps claiming the 2020 election was stolen but offers no verifiable proof etc etc etc. And in spite all of this he’s above 40% in the polls. So yeah, my problem in the red stares is with the voters who continue to vote red. One really has to question their judgement. “Donald Trump gave a speech in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania and did the following: 1. He said he is a “better looking person than Kamala.” 2. He said he “loves the playback controls that exist nowadays” and “TiVo is the best invention.” 3. He said VP Harris “laughs like a lunatic” and therefore “she is prohibited from laughing.” 4. He said Time Magazine didn’t take a good photo of VP Harris so they needed a sketch artist. This makes him upset. 5. He is upset now that VP Harris looked like Sophia Loren or Elizabeth Taylor on the Time Magazine cover. 6. He said “they say I ramble. But I don’t ramble. I’m a really smart guy.” 7. He said “Biden hates Kamala. He hates her.” 8. He said he should be paid $100 million for Biden being replaced by VP Harris. 9. He randomly said “Barack Hussein Obama.” 10. He said climate change is good because it will give us more beachfront property. 11. He said our country “ will die.” 12. He said he hopes we “enjoy” an economic depression. Here are the receipts youtu.be/LbIq0uzfdPM?si…” There are Republican voters in California. They gave us Ronald Reagan in 1980 and started this whole shitshow. My issue with blue state snobbery is that first, Texas went red in the mid 90s, when it wasn't such an overtly bad thing to be. What's happened since then is sort of a frog being put in cold water then slowly boiled to death thing. The shift to Republican tyranny through gerrymandering and voter suppression, and now Trump cultism, was slow and not noticeable to most. By the time we were in real trouble, it was too late. Where I get mad is when blue-staters act like their states are problem-free utopias (I've visited most of them - they're not) or that Democrats in Texas are to blame for their own oppression, either because we stay here or because we can't magically undo the decades of careful incremental power grabs by Republicans and take our state back. We hear "vote harder" but your Democratic reps federal level can't seem to pass voting rights legislation to protect our right to vote and have it count. We hear "just leave" but any rational person knows that most people can't just up and move. Most blue states are either not places with tons of jobs (New Mexico) or have an insanely high cost of living in the areas where there are jobs. And the blue state Democrats often help keep their cost of living high with NIMBY laws that protect generational real estate wealth and prevent the building of affordable housing! It seems they don't really want red-staters to be able to move there; they just want to flog us for staying where we are. Anyway. That's all I mean by blue state snobbery. For those to whom that doesn't apply, carry on. CA did not give us RR by itself. It had the help of Republican voters in 43 states. The majority of the people in these states chose to vote for RR of their own free will. There are problems in every city, every state, and every country and cities outside the US. There is no such thing as perfection when humans are involved. It’s not in our DNA. Let me ask you a question, assuming you own your home, when it comes time to sell it, are going try and get as money as you can? Even though you will be cutting people out of the market that can’t afford your price? I’ll answer the question for you. The answer is yea and you should. You would be doing exactly what blue states are doing. The big difference is the CA has the third highest average wage behind MA and NY while TX average wage is I believe in the 20’s somewhere. Developers, homeowners, and landlords will always try and get as much as they can from the sell of or from the rent in a rental unit. Meaning they will be aiming for the higher wage earner. Which shuts a lot of folks out of the home buying and rental market, in and out of the state in question. The trick is to fix it without flooding the market with homes and rental units without causing the value of existing homes and rental units to drop. As far as NIMBY’s go, they can be a royal pain in the ass. And I’m sure you have NIMBY’s in your neck of the woods. The biggest problem with government, on all levels, are the voters and the choices they make including not voting. It’s that simple. And that is why I have a problem with the voters in red states that vote for trump and the current crop of Republicans. It’s these voters that have the potential of fucking up this country to the point there won’t ever be another election, not two years from now, not four years from, not ever. What I think is the current Republican Party needs to be destroyed and rebuilt to party that wants to govern and not be one that is only interest is grabbing power any way that they can. Which is the goal of the current gang running the GOP.
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Post by jill8909 on Aug 19, 2024 2:50:21 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states. Because some of us have little to no choice.
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Post by scraplette on Aug 19, 2024 12:53:35 GMT
I’m old 😀 so most of my teacher friends in Oklahoma are near or past retirement. This is what they circulated on FB after Walter’s made his announcement:
“ Hallelujah! Thank you to my creative friends for all these great Biblical math problems. They'll really help the Oklahoma school superintendent's goal of inserting biblical content into math and science! I've collected a multitude of the problems into one post for ease of reading: 1) Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3). If he lay with one wife or concubine every night, but took off one day per week for rest, how many days would it take him to lay with all of his wives and concubines? 2) David captured the foreskins of 200 Philistines (1 Samuel 18:27). If David split those foreskins into baskets of 40 foreskins each, how many baskets would he need? 3) The prophet Elisha summoned two she-bears to kill 42 children after they mocked him for being bald (2 Kings 2:24) One she-bear mauled twice as many children as the other she-bear. How many kids did each she-bear maul? (Use fractions) (Courtesy of Margo Evans) 4) Jael killed General Sisera by driving a tent peg into his skull. (Judges 4:21) If Jael could hammer 1.5 inch per blow and the peg was 9 inches long, how many blows would she need to drive the peg all the way in?”
Blaming people for not moving diminishes any argument. If you’re sheltered enough to not understand professional, economic or family reasons then please know some people stay and work for change.
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scrapngranny
Pearl Clutcher
Only slightly senile
Posts: 4,859
Jun 25, 2014 23:21:30 GMT
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Post by scrapngranny on Aug 19, 2024 15:00:01 GMT
I have no patience with Christians that believe their religion should be taught or catered to in public schools.
They forget their are many other faiths shouldn’t have to be part of practicing any part of Christianity if it is not part of their beliefs. This country was founded on the separation of Church and State.
Private schools were created to offer the religious teachings as desired as part of the education system.
I am a Christian that people have the right to choose their own beliefs. I would outraged if any religions beliefs were practiced in the classroom. Like someone above said, I’m thankful to live in California.
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Just T
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,884
Jun 26, 2014 1:20:09 GMT
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Post by Just T on Aug 19, 2024 15:10:16 GMT
Just another reason why I love living in California. The chances of this happening here are slim to none. I can't fathom why "intelligent" people would live in one of these F'd up backwards states. Because some of us have little to no choice. I can answer that. I have lived in one of those backward states. I've lived here most of my life. It sounds great to just pack up and move, but 3 o my 4 kids live within 30 minutes of me. One of them is expecting my first grandchild. No way would I want to move. Also, there is the little thing called my job. I can't do what I do anywhere else, so moving would mean finding a new job somewhere else when I am in my 60s. Not gonna happen. I get so tired of people saying "if you don't like it there, just move!"
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