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Post by used2scrap on Aug 28, 2024 23:31:32 GMT
So I'm just really curious why some here say they'd support a woman CIC, but " not this one." What could Harris do that would be worse than this? She's not a Republican. Well, that's my guess and it is of little value. If only Trump was actually a Republican |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 28, 2024 23:37:57 GMT
I’d say it’s long past time that we gave a woman a chance to lead this country. It’s not like other countries haven’t already done it. IMO we’re way behind the times.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 28, 2024 23:46:53 GMT
Yes! And it’s about damn time.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 28, 2024 23:54:50 GMT
Why is this even a question? It’s a valid question IMO because there are people who do not think that a woman should be president. Four people in this poll. And worse, there are people who are very interested in preventing women from voting. Sure, they’re a relatively small group of nutcases, but they are still dangerous. They are the same people who want this to be a Christian nation. 🙄 But there are some very powerful folks who agree with them. And that is the dangerous bit. |
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Post by naby64 on Aug 28, 2024 23:59:23 GMT
She's not a Republican. Well, that's my guess and it is of little value. If only Trump was actually a Republican Very good point! |
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 29, 2024 0:09:58 GMT
1000%. Men have been at the front for ages (some good, some bad) and there is zero reason a woman can’t lead. For those saying “yes but not this one”. Ok fair enough. Bug is that enough to make you not vote for her now? Yes, that’s what is mind-boggling to me. Conservatives like to say that Biden has dementia. Have they listened to Trump? He is clearly going downhill fast. The man can’t keep a coherent thought in his head. So…vote third party? Well, sure, you have that right. The last time that a lot of people voted third party, we ended up with Trump. It’s something to think long and hard about. There are only 2 people who can win. Only 2. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 29, 2024 0:27:10 GMT
1000%. Men have been at the front for ages (some good, some bad) and there is zero reason a woman can’t lead. For those saying “yes but not this one”. Ok fair enough. Bug is that enough to make you not vote for her now? Yes, that’s what is mind-boggling to me. Conservatives like to say that Biden has dementia. Have they listened to Trump? He is clearly going downhill fast. The man can’t keep a coherent thought in his head. So…vote third party? Well, sure, you have that right. The last time that a lot of people voted third party, we ended up with Trump. It’s something to think long and hard about. There are only 2 people who can win. Only 2. I'm really trying not to make assumptions about WHY people are saying "not this one." I think I know, based on what I can read on conservative sites and Twitter, but I'd really like to hear a fellow voter put it in their own words. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2024 0:34:40 GMT
Yeah, absolutely. Definitely. Just not this one. Remember Putin wants Alaska back and someone might oblige, it will not be Harris!! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2024 0:42:36 GMT
MergeAgainst my better judgement, the answer is, she is not white.. ...which greatly offends me.
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Post by Zee on Aug 29, 2024 0:54:29 GMT
Yes, that’s what is mind-boggling to me. Conservatives like to say that Biden has dementia. Have they listened to Trump? He is clearly going downhill fast. The man can’t keep a coherent thought in his head. So…vote third party? Well, sure, you have that right. The last time that a lot of people voted third party, we ended up with Trump. It’s something to think long and hard about. There are only 2 people who can win. Only 2. I'm really trying not to make assumptions about WHY people are saying "not this one." I think I know, based on what I can read on conservative sites and Twitter, but I'd really like to hear a fellow voter put it in their own words. Bless you for taking one for the team and reading conservative sites. No way could I spend my time doing that, though I know it's of some importance to know what they're up to. I just can't. It hurts my brain cells and causes unnecessary anger and a wish to get off the planet. I don't think "conservative" used to be such a dirty word but maybe I'm wrong. It's the religious right that makes it so awful. For me, any religion when followed fervently is a negative. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 29, 2024 1:07:46 GMT
Yes, that’s what is mind-boggling to me. Conservatives like to say that Biden has dementia. Have they listened to Trump? He is clearly going downhill fast. The man can’t keep a coherent thought in his head. So…vote third party? Well, sure, you have that right. The last time that a lot of people voted third party, we ended up with Trump. It’s something to think long and hard about. There are only 2 people who can win. Only 2. I'm really trying not to make assumptions about WHY people are saying "not this one." I think I know, based on what I can read on conservative sites and Twitter, but I'd really like to hear a fellow voter put it in their own words. I must be tired, because that went right over my head. I was initially leery of Harris because her run for president was not good. But she has found her footing, and I am happy to vote for her. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 29, 2024 2:47:42 GMT
HCR wrote a great perspective on Harris' nomination heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-18-2024Tonight, on the 104th anniversary of the ratification of the Nineteenth Amendment, delegates are gathered in Chicago, Illinois, for the Democratic National Convention, where they will celebrate Harris’s nomination for the presidency.
It’s been a long time coming. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2024 11:28:51 GMT
Bingo!! Harris campaign hits the mark with just two words!! Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign team hit Donald Trump with just two words after the former president railed against the 2024 Democratic nominee — unprovoked — in his latest all-caps Truth Social post. Harris' official campaign account retweeted the post, writing, "Rent free."x.com/franklinleonard/status/1828846355436953645Conservative lawyer George Conway added: "Damn, it’s getting crowded in here!" www.rawstory.com/kamala-harris-2669094390/ |
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Post by lily on Aug 29, 2024 15:24:25 GMT
Absolutely a woman could handle being President of the USA. Now the question is, which woman? The one running I'm not so sure of.... I'd trust her with a red button anytime, any day, and twice on Sunday. I don't want Trump within a 1000 mile radius of DC. He can't even respect our fallen soldiers, no way do I trust him as CIC. I don't want Trump either. I feel like we don't have enough choices. |
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Post by lily on Aug 29, 2024 15:26:05 GMT
Absolutely a woman could handle being President of the USA. Now the question is, which woman? The one running I'm not so sure of.... Why? I just don't feel she has enough experience and because we have pretty much heard or seen zero of her the past 3.5 years. (and I do not care what color she is.....so that has nothing to do with my feelings on her) |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2024 15:26:50 GMT
I'd trust her with a red button anytime, any day, and twice on Sunday. I don't want Trump within a 1000 mile radius of DC. He can't even respect our fallen soldiers, no way do I trust him as CIC. I don't want Trump either. I feel like we don't have enough choices. Please consider that a no vote equals a vote for TFG. Our country and democracy deserve sacrifices to survive!! |
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Post by moretimeplease on Aug 29, 2024 15:58:02 GMT
I just don't feel she has enough experience and because we have pretty much heard or seen zero of her the past 3.5 years. (and I do not care what color she is.....so that has nothing to do with my feelings on her) Would you have voted for Pence if he had become the nominee? Because that’s what all VPs do - they stay in the background. |
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Post by GiantsFan on Aug 29, 2024 16:05:08 GMT
I just don't feel she has enough experience and because we have pretty much heard or seen zero of her the past 3.5 years. (and I do not care what color she is.....so that has nothing to do with my feelings on her) Do you think Obama had experience (for his first term)? Wasn't he a junior senator? I don't keep track of who is dem or repub on this board, so I don't know where your vote lies, but look what happened in 2016. I know people who "will never vote for a woman" and look how that turned out. Like it or not, she's on the ticket for Dems. |
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Post by carhoch on Aug 29, 2024 16:07:36 GMT
It saddens me that in 2024 their are 6 peas ,probably all women’s that don’t believe that a woman is qualified to be commander in chief.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2024 16:14:37 GMT
Not only does Harris have years of experience as DA, AG of California as well as a US Senator, her VP is also very experienced from his present and previous positions if he is needed.
TFG VP is almost worst the he is. No he is worse and tfg is older, 78..
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Post by pinklady on Aug 29, 2024 16:21:47 GMT
No only does Harris have years of experience as DA, AG of California as well as a US Senator, her VP is also very experienced from his present and previous jobs if he is needed. TFG VP is almost worst the he is. No he is worse and tfg is older, 78.. but but but she's been hiding for the last 3.5 years. Seriously, WTF. The general public just has zero clue how the executive branch works. Unbelievable. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 29, 2024 16:22:10 GMT
I just don't feel she has enough experience and because we have pretty much heard or seen zero of her the past 3.5 years. (and I do not care what color she is.....so that has nothing to do with my feelings on her) Thanks for answering! As you might imagine, I have some follow up questions - which VP in history do you feel has held a more prominent role in their administration? To my memory, they're all generally pretty behind the scenes, but perhaps you know something I don't. It's very common for presidential candidates to come from the Senate. Participation in that body, plus in her case years in California politics, seems to be about the usual amount of experience. What else would you have like to have seen? Is it your opinion that only a former member of the military is fit to be CIC? (ETA: here's a list of some of Harris' accomplishments as VP, if you're interested. www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/26/kamala-harris-vice-president-accomplishments/74534954007/)And more to the point, what experience did Trump have when he was elected that made him fit to be CIC? What did he do during his four years that make him fit now, and does the opinion of virtually all of the generals and military advisors who served him have any bearing on your opinion? Because almost none of them have anything good to say about him as CIC. Thanks for your responses. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 29, 2024 16:38:18 GMT
For those who say "not this one" and that she doesn't have enough experience, I would challenge you to take a look at the level of experience that previous (male) presidents have had and how that compares to Harris. Did you question the experience of previous presidents in the same way? Or is there a (perhaps subconscious) bias that leads you to say that about a woman? Or to question it more? Or is this possibly because you are hearing your party leaders say that?
For example, yesterday Megan McCain made a post on X that said, "I don't know if Democrats fully realize how damaging the image of the possible first woman president being incapable of giving an interview alone without the presence of a man to help her is." Then, people posted photos of several candidates doing joint interviews, including McCain and Palin. So, who is actually the misogynist in this situation?
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 29, 2024 18:09:02 GMT
Has she truly been doing nothing? Or has the media not been covering the first female VP the last three years?
Personally the thought of totally inexperienced JD Vance being a heartbeat away from a very unhealthy aged 78 Trump is far more terrifying.
Edited to add: if being an AG, US Senator and VP doesn’t make enough experience to be qualified to be POTUS, what does?
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Post by GiantsFan on Aug 29, 2024 18:59:18 GMT
Personally the thought of totally inexperienced JD Vance being a heartbeat away from a very unhealthy aged 78 Trump is far more terrifying. Bolding this for the people in the back. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 29, 2024 19:21:45 GMT
I just don't feel she has enough experience and because we have pretty much heard or seen zero of her the past 3.5 years. (and I do not care what color she is.....so that has nothing to do with my feelings on her) Kamala Harris was DA of San Francisco for 2 terms. While SF isn’t the size of NY it’s not some small hick town in the mid-west either. AG of the State of California for 2 terms. CA the most populist state in the US. I voted for her both times. When Barbra Boxer retired from the US Senate, Harris ran for and won her seat in the US Senate. I voted for her. She became VP . The one thing Biden told Obama when he asked him to be his VP was he wanted to be “in the room”. I have no doubt Harris has been “in the room” when tough decisions are made. She has represented this country overseas as well as met with foreign leaders. As far as immigration goes, she was not tasked with border security as the right wants you to believe but with working with the countries, where the majority of migrants come from, to see if there were things that could be done to stop the migrants from wanting to leave their country in the first place. My first thought when I read that was “good luck with that” but kudos to the Administration for trying. A Vice President does not upstage the President so a lot of what any VP does may not necessarily make the news. If you think she doesn’t have enough experience to be president then I think you do have a problem with a woman being president or you are one of those looking for the perfect candidate. A candidate that does not nor will ever exist because they are humans and there is no such thing as a perfect human. It’s not in our DNA. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 29, 2024 19:26:37 GMT
Has she truly been doing nothing? Or has the media not been covering the first female VP the last three years? Personally the thought of totally inexperienced JD Vance being a heartbeat away from a very unhealthy aged 78 Trump is far more terrifying. Edited to add: if being an AG, US Senator and VP doesn’t make enough experience to be qualified to be POTUS, what does? People also said that Hillary Clinton was not qualified.... |
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Post by peasquared on Aug 29, 2024 19:28:23 GMT
This whole "she's not doing interviews" is so frustrating. She isn't your typical candidate. Her whole campaign has been accelerated. In a month, she was nominated, had to choose a VP, attend the DNC, accept the nomination and hold rallies. Trump has had five years running for this election. How many interviews other than Fox has he done? Not many.
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Post by alsomsknit on Aug 29, 2024 19:34:57 GMT
Harris does not have to be the perfect candidate!
I’m excited for the Harris/Walz ticket.
Harris is as qualified as any former president. Do not force the need for her to be twice as qualified as any man.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 29, 2024 19:36:07 GMT
Has she truly been doing nothing? Or has the media not been covering the first female VP the last three years? Personally the thought of totally inexperienced JD Vance being a heartbeat away from a very unhealthy aged 78 Trump is far more terrifying. Edited to add: if being an AG, US Senator and VP doesn’t make enough experience to be qualified to be POTUS, what does? It is truly the stuff of nightmares. Vance has some very non-mainstream views(I’m trying to be kind). And even though they put bronzer on Trump and slap on a girdle, he looks extremely unhealthy. |
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