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Post by katlady on Aug 29, 2024 16:06:31 GMT
The other thing I find off putting is inserting religion in business dealings. Please do not assume I share your religion. I do not want bible quotes on my invoices, blessings at the end of an email, or a pitch that you are a faith based business. I don’t mind that as long as they are not preaching to me or in my face about it, like Hobby Lobby. I don’t know how many people know, but In-n-Out has biblical verses on their packaging. It is not prominent, usually on the bottom of the bag. But they never preach to you, carry religious merch or wish you a blessed day.
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Post by katiekaty on Aug 29, 2024 17:47:36 GMT
I don’t care about signs unless they direct hate against a specific targeted group of people such a religious, race, mental capacity, sex, interracial marriage, etc. the sign would have to directly say that on a sign or directly slur the object of the. Sign. Political signs are generally not offensive to me because they advertise a candidate and a party. I figure it’s the owners right to place that there and my right to indirectly it. If the political sign went beyond and targeted the above, then I would stead clear.
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Post by MichyM on Aug 29, 2024 18:58:59 GMT
The other thing I find off putting is inserting religion in business dealings. Please do not assume I share your religion. I do not want bible quotes on my invoices, blessings at the end of an email, or a pitch that you are a faith based business. I don’t mind that as long as they are not preaching to me or in my face about it, like Hobby Lobby. I don’t know how many people know, but In-n-Out has biblical verses on their packaging. It is not prominent, usually on the bottom of the bag. But they never preach to you, carry religious merch or wish you a blessed day. Agreed. I have never set foot in a Hobby Lobby or a Chic fila because of their "religious" leanings. It's not that they have them, it's that the stances they take work to minimize basic human rights for women, those who are LGBTQIA, and the like. I've only been to an In and Out once in SoCA. But I think I'd be ok if that's all they do. Lastly, I support all the causes that Penzey's does. However, I find their marketing around the issues they support to be pretty abrasive myself. I know for others they are fine...but for me I wish they'd dial back their tone just a bit. ETA: regarding the window treatments issue. Former interior designer here. Even basic shades from a reputable company are costly. Add features such as motorized (I have 3 of those in my living room because of super high ceilings and very large windows...the weight of pulling those up and down by hand over time can be hard on them), top down/bottom up, various types of cords (if you do that way), sun protection, and just the materials selected pop the price up. You do not want to know what I paid for just those 3 blinds.
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Post by paget on Aug 29, 2024 19:32:51 GMT
For the most part, I don’t see political signs at business. I can think of a local flooring store that dh said we could go to to check out flooring and I refused because they had a couple trump signs on the windows. I can easily go somewhere else- and did.
The one that still makes me feel sick was a car dealership. Dd and I went last year way north for a fall apple picking excursion and on the way we passed a large car dealership. I’ve never seen anything like it. It was COVERED in MAGA, flags, and Trump signs. Like a giant celebration. Oh hell to the no. I can’t imagine anyone shopping there that wasn’t all in for Trump because it was so crazy over the top. And then to realize they were clearly in business with people shopping there…and it just made me feel sad and ill honestly.
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Post by nicolecardella on Aug 29, 2024 23:27:02 GMT
Nope. Keep your political views out of your business. I’ll avoid even if I agree
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 29, 2024 23:30:18 GMT
Yes - I see lots of Black Lives Matter, Pride, “everyone belongs” signs etc in businesses. I don’t really ever see election signs though.
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 29, 2024 23:32:50 GMT
We were about to sign a $10K+ contract for window treatments when I remarked that I was glad the rail strike was averted it wouldn't mess with delivery. Owner says "Oh you can't believe anything Biden says." (it was diverted) Silence. "Oh I assume you were conservative." She then went on to tell us she gets all her news from some wrestler on Fox news. This was a couple of years ago. We said, "goodbye" and walked out. She called me later and I told her that I was uncomfortable doing business with someone who mixed politics with business. What in the world does 10k worth of window treatments look like? that doesn’t seem high - TWO shades for my front door cost almost a grand a few years ago! (And they were completely plain!)
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 30, 2024 1:22:51 GMT
This sums up my feelings pretty well respectI can't respect people who respect him
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Post by Zee on Aug 30, 2024 2:24:45 GMT
What in the world does 10k worth of window treatments look like? that doesn’t seem high - TWO shades for my front door cost almost a grand a few years ago! (And they were completely plain!) Never in a billion years
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Post by lisacharlotte on Aug 30, 2024 5:45:52 GMT
I don't know why any business owner would be willing to alienate half their possible customer base. I believe Michael Jordan famously said, "Republicans buy sneakers too."
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Post by Prenticekid on Aug 30, 2024 13:41:21 GMT
I didn't in the past. Everyone has that right is what I believed. But Trump signs, that just tells me who you are and I'm not supporting that. Any other politician who is hateful as well. I wouldn't use a business that had signs for carpetbaggers either. We have a guy who runs for office in PA despite the fact he lives in another state. That's just a big nope.
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Post by gracieplusthree on Aug 30, 2024 13:59:06 GMT
I live in TN and him saying we hate Grant simply isn't true. Many/most here wouldn't even know who he was or did or anything. I can assure you I am not lying it happened. It was a shop close to the train. Never said you lied.. having lived here all my life I can say, most don't have great history knowledge unless they're older generation or simply have an interest in it, but maybe in that area there'd be more chance because of Lookout Mt..
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Post by gracieplusthree on Aug 30, 2024 14:18:43 GMT
Ok. I probably did read it the wrong way. Every time we were asked where we were from which was in almost every business and tourist place and we explained our area everyone knew who Ulysses S. Grant was. Most people know who he is. I find it odd this is how you tell people where you're from when you can just say Ohio. I don't go around telling people Im near the part of TN where Dolly Parton was born(and everyone loves Dolly), I just say East TN. And heck I live in the town where Harry S Burns was from, but I don't expect everyone, even here, to know who that was. But you do you..
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Post by scrapngranny on Aug 30, 2024 14:29:26 GMT
I haven’t seen any signs in my town. If the sign were for a local election, school board, or city office, it wouldn’t bother me at all. If it were a Trump sign I wouldn’t shop there, probably ever again.
Personally, I don’t know what good those signs do. Just because my neighbor has a sign in their yard it wouldn't change my mind. I also live in a very red area of a very blue state. Whatever the locals do isn’t going to change the popular or electoral vote. It just lets me know where the idiots live. They would have much more power if they posted more signs for local elections.
I did put out 25 medium size flags on sticks in my front lawn when Biden won. Much to my DH’s chagrin. 🤭
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Post by hutchfan on Aug 30, 2024 17:39:23 GMT
I find it odd this is how you tell people where you're from when you can just say Ohio. I don't go around telling people Im near the part of TN where Dolly Parton was born(and everyone loves Dolly), I just say East TN. And heck I live in the town where Harry S Burns was from, but I don't expect everyone, even here, to know who that was. But you do you.. Sorry you fell the need to question everything I am saying. I did answer Ohio and then they asked where about in the area so i got more specific on my area I don't go on this board and tell people how they should speak to others or how they should respond to others. Maybe you should take a look in the mirror.
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Post by hutchfan on Aug 30, 2024 17:43:14 GMT
I find it odd this is how you tell people where you're from when you can just say Ohio. I don't go around telling people Im near the part of TN where Dolly Parton was born(and everyone loves Dolly), I just say East TN. And heck I live in the town where Harry S Burns was from, but I don't expect everyone, even here, to know who that was. But you do you.. And just so you know I am proud of where I live, where I come from and who was born in my area. Ulysses S Grant was the 18th President since you don't know who he is. Basic History.
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Post by melanell on Aug 30, 2024 18:00:01 GMT
I think my biggest issue is that with a very small business, I feel like the money I pay for goods or services is more closely related to the profit of the owners. And if those same owners are choosing to put up those signs or decorate the space with candidate merchandise, then it feels more real to me that some of my money went towards some of those things, or that it could be going towards some sort of monetary support for that candidate.
Now DH, on the other hand, says his biggest issue is simply that he thinks when someone owns a business, when they are at their place of business, their mind should be on the business, not on politics, and the signs open the door for distraction. He doesn't want to be in a business waiting to ask for help, while the owner's having a discussion about their lawn signs. He understands that a customer can get chatty at any time, but he feels putting out any sort of sign invites the chatter.
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Post by peasapie on Aug 31, 2024 1:23:00 GMT
Nope. I’m seeing trump cult signs too and not shopping there.
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 31, 2024 1:48:41 GMT
Before Trump, I wouldn't have thought much of it.
I actually appreciate Trump signs now. They clearly define the person or business and allows me to move along quickly and easily with no investment.
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Post by breetheflea on Aug 31, 2024 14:05:50 GMT
I was going to say I don't ever see that here but last summer while on vacation we walked into a thrift type store and they had a table selling Trump/MAGA stuff. I could not leave fast enough.
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Post by melanell on Aug 31, 2024 14:37:00 GMT
I actually appreciate Trump signs now. They clearly define the person or business and allows me to move along quickly and easily with no investment. We're just starting to see a few signs here and there in town. Most of the time when I see signs, I'm not surprised by who put out what signs. Although there have been a few exceptions. I sat my kids down just last night to have a talk about not behaving rudely if they see Trump signs in neighbors' yards. I do NOT think that they would say anything to anyone directly, but with one of my kids, I could imagine them walking by, seeing a neighbor in their yard, and then saying something to whoever they might be walking with in a much louder than necessary voice so that the neighbor could hear them. So I want nip any possibility of that in the bud. They told me they were just disappointed to know the neighbor would vote for him, and we discussed nice things the neighbors have done for us over the years, and other people we know, care about, love who will only ever vote republican, no matter how bad the candidate may be. Basically trying not to be Trump-like despite not agreeing with people about their political beliefs.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 1, 2024 10:28:53 GMT
Do you even have businesses that post political signs? I can only think of two businesses with political signs visible on their buildings. Interestingly, both are car related. One a dealership, one a repair garage. I purposely avoid businesses that post political signs because i think it's obnoxious, and out of place for a place of business.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 1, 2024 11:15:10 GMT
I don’t recall there ever being signs in businesses until the MAGAts. It’s like they HAVE to be identified with their loser. And no, I don’t shop with MAGAts if I know.
To be honest until the grifter I really couldn’t have cared if someone was a Republican.
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 1, 2024 12:54:26 GMT
Yes - I see lots of Black Lives Matter, Pride, “everyone belongs” signs etc in businesses. I don’t really ever see election signs though. I don't view those as political signs though. To me they're basic human rights issues. We don't post political signs at my church but we very definitely have human rights flags of various types. It will certainly give people a broad hint about what our church believes, but it's only political if the Republicans want to make it political.
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Post by artbabe on Sept 1, 2024 15:17:12 GMT
There is one shop in my old college's town (my nephew goes there) that is wildly anti-trans. Obsessed with it to a J.K. Rowling level. There were many signs all over the windows. I never knew what they were trying to accomplish because it is a college town and very liberal and the shop sold hippy-adjacent stuff. Why alienate your target market? My nephew has two trans roommates and we definitely never shop there, even though I like the merchandise they sell.
I went down last week to visit and the signs have been taken down. I still won't shop there because I'm sure their views haven't changed. Evidently they have chosen to be quieter about it. It must have been hitting their bottom line.
I try to avoid businesses that are very pro Trump. Not a fan of Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-a, either.
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Post by gracieplusthree on Sept 1, 2024 23:30:22 GMT
And just so you know I am proud of where I live, where I come from and who was born in my area. Ulysses S Grant was the 18th President since you don't know who he is. Basic History. Never said I didn't know who he was
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Post by hutchfan on Sept 2, 2024 1:32:22 GMT
And just so you know I am proud of where I live, where I come from and who was born in my area. Ulysses S Grant was the 18th President since you don't know who he is. Basic History. Never said I didn't know who he was Well you implied that no one in Tennessee knows who Grant is. I have been traveling to Tennessee almost my whole life visiting family and for vacations all over the state. And you are the only person to ever make comments like Tennessee people don't know who Grant is, where he is from or his place in History. He played a huge part during the war and after. And every person I have ever spoke to in Tennessee knew exactly who he was. And only that one man has been rude.
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Post by melanell on Sept 11, 2024 22:50:30 GMT
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Post by melanell on Sept 11, 2024 22:54:04 GMT
I also had a discussion about a house for sale down the street from my parents. I was simply discussing the size and layout of the house in comparison to the asking price, but he told me that the house now has Trump signs in the yard and he's surprised they did that while trying to sell it. He also indicated that he wouldn't even go look at that house if he were in the market to downsize, simply because of the signs.
He said he passed by a garage sale the other day (he likes to look for things he can use for projects in his retirement) because they had a Trump sign. He said if and he's not going to pay a Trump supporter 10 bucks for a bench, he's definitely not going to give a quarter-million dollars to a trump supporter for a house.
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