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Post by katlady on Aug 31, 2024 3:16:31 GMT
An employee was found deceased in her office. She arrived Friday morning and was found in her office on Tuesday. Her office was not in a main busy area. The poor woman! www.yahoo.com/news/officials-probe-death-wells-fargo-185604649.htmlCould such a situation happen at your workplace? At our office, I think someone would have found her, at least by Monday, if not on Friday evening. We do have a crew that walks through the floors at night to pick up trash, and clean the restrooms. So unless she had a lock on her door, a cleaning crew should have encountered her on their rounds. I assume a big office building like the one she was at has a nightly cleaning crew, at least at a minimum to pick up trash. When we have worked late, the cleaning crew would quietly grab the trash cans from our cubicles/offices to empty them. And lastly, our newer offices have windows that look out onto the floors. You can't really "hide". But at our workplace, we do have to use our badge to enter the buildings, but we don't have to use our badges to walk out of the buildings. So there is no way to know if someone left the building.
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Post by cindytred on Aug 31, 2024 3:46:24 GMT
Wow, that is so sad.
Cindy
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Post by garcia5050 on Aug 31, 2024 4:05:34 GMT
We have an open floor plan, so this likely wouldn’t happen at my work. Even the offices are surrounded by glass walls.
There was a really nice woman that I had met a few years ago. Just super sweet. She was 10 minutes late for work, which was completely out of character, so they sent someone to her house. And that’s how they found out that she passed away, while getting ready for work. This was a single lady with no kids, but a large group of friends.
Back then it made me think of how long it would take for me to be found. I am nowhere near as nice as this lady. I was thinking maybe three days. And that’s only because I’m a workaholic, so my job would likely miss me.
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Post by katlady on Aug 31, 2024 4:11:08 GMT
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 31, 2024 5:47:37 GMT
What a sad story! It wouldn't happen in my immediate work team. There are only six of us, and even though we work from home four days a week, if one of us didn't log in and say good morning on Teams, my boss or I would start ringing the person. If there was no answer on their work or personal phone, we would ring a family member. I am nowhere near as nice as this lady. I was thinking maybe three days. I'm sorry, but this really made me chuckle!
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Post by katlady on Aug 31, 2024 6:05:57 GMT
What a sad story!  It wouldn't happen in my immediate work team. There are only six of us, and even though we work from home four days a week, if one of us didn't log in and say good morning on Teams, my boss or I would start ringing the person. If there was no answer on their work or personal phone, we would ring a family member.  I am nowhere near as nice as this lady. I was thinking maybe three days. I'm sorry, but this really made me chuckle! You bring up a good point about communication. No one needed to or wanted to talk to her on Monday or at least didn’t ask about her on Monday. So sad!
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Post by christinec68 on Aug 31, 2024 6:44:53 GMT
Not really - If someone went to the office on a Friday, they would be discovered on Monday unless it was a holiday weekend. The building security only checks for visitors entering the building, not people who work there or when anyone leaves.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 31, 2024 10:29:40 GMT
Yes & no. I don’t actually work in an office.
A few weeks ago there was an article of a guy who stopped going to work for 6 years but still got paid. I joked with my boss that would last me 4 days tops and only if it aligned with a Friday off Monday holiday scenario. Like if I had had this Friday off she wouldn’t look for me until this coming Tuesday. So theoretically it could be 4 days if things aligned just right.
However, this idea is a real thing for those of us who live alone. Currently my son is staying with me but I’ve lived mostly alone for 7 years since my divorce. When my kids went to college I used to joke that I knew someone who had their phone password was alive if my Snapchat’s were opened. When they got out of college things flipped. My kids & my niece all check if I’ve opened their snapchats. If I haven’t one of them calls me by evening. Else yeah it could go days before anyone found me. But again I don’t go into an office. And I’m not so sure anyone would do anything if a client called either. Not right away. When I had to go to the ER they just forwarded the clients angry phone call to my voicemail and I had to deal with that when I came back to work.
My job would deduct pay back to my time of death though.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 31, 2024 11:05:10 GMT
If I went missing Jeremy would look for me. The cleaning crew empties my trash at work daily so they would have found me. However it is totally possible for me to work all day at my desk post covid and not see anyone but the young man who empties my trash. Maybe I run into someone in the bathroom. But no one can see me at my desk.
During the covid lockdowns I was one of the only people with access to the building because I needed to deposit checks. I would go in and it would be totally dark up there on the 4th floor. I always told Jeremy and my boss when I was leaving my house because you know Michael Myers could have been up there or something and I would have been totally alone.
My current boss would think nothing of me disappearing for days, my coworker does and he never seems to know.
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Post by Zee on Aug 31, 2024 11:20:57 GMT
I wish this was even a remote possibility for me. I would be dead for about ten minutes max before someone needed me for something.
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Post by melanell on Aug 31, 2024 12:33:57 GMT
We always had to swipe in and out to make any of the exterior doors open, and security would speak to you if didn't swipe. (So even if you and a friend went out for lunch, and the friend swiped to open the door, and then held the door for you, you still had to swipe as you entered.)
So that *should* create a situation in which security would know if someone entered the building and did not leave, which *should* have sent them looking for said person.
Now, I know people don't always follow the letter of the law when it comes to their job routines, so I certainly can't promise that one day security might not have just said "Oh, so and so forgets to swipe all of the time," and not check. BUT, I think they were generally better about that. (These days that building is closed and everyone works from home, though.)
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Post by peabay on Aug 31, 2024 12:41:49 GMT
Well, my husband would know if I didn’t come home…but if we’re just talking about the office we have custodial staff there a lot of the time. I’m pretty sure they are there til the later evening. We don’t swipe out, so I don’t think anyone would know if I never left.
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 31, 2024 13:31:53 GMT
Someone would be found within an hour on my side of the office, on the other side within a few minutes. We're not up walking around as much as the receptionist and accounting team.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 31, 2024 13:36:14 GMT
No, we had a nightly cleaning crew, so she would have been found.
We did have an older man, well loved, who came out of retirement to help with a project. He didn't show up or answer his phone one morning, so someone went to his home. They called the police when he didn't answer his door. He was deceased.
My DIL's mother was found the same way.
My sweet neighbors were worried about me when they hadn't seen me for a few days. That was last week when I had covid.
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 31, 2024 13:39:26 GMT
At our office in Atlanta that could happen. There are many interior offices with just a skinny window by the door. The lights are all motion activated so those would turn off. Since Covid, 95% of folks work from home…you could be the only person in your area in the building. Cleaning staff no longer come nightly.
Our Salt Lake City office is more open floor plan and all the offices have full glass walls facing the open seating area.
But if I wasn’t out on PTO and didn’t show up on Teams or the daily meetings folks would notice in a couple hours.
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Post by wordfish on Aug 31, 2024 13:47:24 GMT
The longest I could imagine being dead in my office before being found under normal circumstances would be part of a morning or an afternoon, so maybe a few hours. If I didn't come home, my husband would come looking for me. If he happened to be out of town, it would maybe be the next morning. The same time frame would be true for my colleagues. When we leave for the evening, it's usually either my partner, my boss, or me who is the last one out. We all look to make sure everyone is gone before we leave because we have to set an alarm, so we'd come check on any lights/open doors we noticed on the way out.
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Post by GiantsFan on Aug 31, 2024 14:12:49 GMT
That's awful. In one of my jobs, a person had a heart attack after hours and the cleaning crew found them.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Aug 31, 2024 18:28:58 GMT
My boss and my direct reports all check in with one another at least once a day. I've always instilled in my managers to make sure everyone is OK, every day. Hell, I've called employees out on PTO because I forgot they were off and I didn't see them log in.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Aug 31, 2024 19:29:03 GMT
I would be dead for about ten minutes max before someone needed me for something. And even if you were dead, they'd still want you to do it.
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Post by Merge on Aug 31, 2024 19:54:47 GMT
And this, boys and girls, is why we don't devote all our time and energy to any job. Focus your energy on the people who will notice if you die.
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Post by Zee on Aug 31, 2024 20:00:12 GMT
And this, boys and girls, is why we don't devote all our time and energy to any job. Focus your energy on the people who will notice if you die. It would actually take longer for DH and DS to notice than my work 🤣🤣 When DH has to go to the office and I'm at work we sometimes can go for 3 days without seeing each other. Certainly less usual now, but I often wondered how long it would take us to notice the other hadn't been home. I guess the unattended cats and dog would be the first clue. We don't really talk on the phone or need to text for the most part. My work would certainly send the police for a welfare check though--we have had to do that twice for missing employees (who, it turns out, were fine but didn't want to work anymore).
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 31, 2024 21:25:32 GMT
I don't think this could have happened at any office I've worked in, but I do know two people that died at home and weren't found for several days. One was an employee and the other a BFF's father. Both were men who lived alone, had history of heart attacks/strokes in the time before cell phones and no one went physically looking for them until they didn't show up for work on Monday. A second employee in a similar situation was found alive, but died in hospital a few days later.
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Post by disneypal on Aug 31, 2024 22:00:34 GMT
That poor woman. I can't help but wonder .... didn't her family or friends know she was missing. If I hadn't talked or texted with someone, they'd start wondering where I was.
I don't think it could happen at our office. We have 17 floors and several of the floors aren't even used anymore and so many people telework now. In fact we are down-sizing at the end of the year to a 4 story building because of it. There are empty floors no longer in use and you have to have key card access. No one except security and facilities has access to the now closed floors. The other floors generally have at least 4 people on them on any given day. HOWEVER, hardly anyone goes in on Friday or Monday. I've been there on Friday and not a single person was there on the floor except me. Same for a Monday.
So I suppose if someone went in on Friday and were the only one on the floor and died that day. It might be Tuesday before they are discovered. It's not very likely that would happen, but I suppose it would be possible.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 31, 2024 22:33:34 GMT
Yes, absolutely, 100%. My university cut back on cleaning to once a week, and they don’t even always come once a week. If you closed your office door, not to be too crass, the only way someone would find you sooner would be the smell. If you didn’t show up to teach during the teaching parts of the year, it would probably take two missed class sessions for the administration to try to find you, but my guess is they wouldn’t look in your office.
I have had several older (80+) colleagues and I have feared something like this.
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Post by iowagirl50147 on Aug 31, 2024 23:59:50 GMT
Sadly apparently it has happened at the company I retired from. Sadly I'm not surprised.....
Signed, WF retiree
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Post by chaosisapony on Sept 1, 2024 1:27:33 GMT
That's incredibly sad.
We had one employee who refused to leave at 5:00 with the rest of us. Luckily she retired last year but I could have pictured this happening to her. She was 72 and had a bad heart. She frequently stayed at the office until 7 or 8 pm. If it was a Friday she could have died after 5 and wouldn't have been found until Monday morning.
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Post by artbabe on Sept 1, 2024 15:33:54 GMT
Well, I'm a teacher, so there would be 26 witnesses. After work they would probably find me because the night custodian comes around. Maybe if I died after the night custodian cleaned my room? That would be possible but they would find me the next morning. Maybe if it was on a Friday? But I'd never stay after contract hours on a Friday, so that isn't likely. I'm more worried about dying in my house because I live alone. I've instructed work to definitely call all of my emergency contacts if I don't show up for work.
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Post by peasapie on Sept 1, 2024 15:44:02 GMT
I would be dead for about ten minutes max before someone needed me for something. And even if you were dead, they'd still want you to do it. 100% to all the above and I'm retired...
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