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Post by Merge on Sept 1, 2024 22:44:33 GMT
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Post by lucyg on Sept 1, 2024 22:49:06 GMT
OMG, what is WRONG with these people?!
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Post by Merge on Sept 1, 2024 23:00:52 GMT
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Sept 1, 2024 23:01:11 GMT
What the actual fuck??
I have to continue to hold out hope that enough people will come out to vote to preserve democracy. It’s that or spiral down to daily alcohol and plan to move back to Canada.
I don’t think we’re done with this election by a long shot. It’s going to take time to weed out the sinister hearts of these people but we can do it.
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Gem Girl
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 1, 2024 23:08:54 GMT
Thanks for the link. I had never heard of him, and I read a LOT of politics. I also agree with lucyg If these people want to live under another form of governance, they can GO TO ONE. They don't get to just take this one, for which so many have fought and died.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 1, 2024 23:11:15 GMT
They are taking I t, every day a piece....
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Gem Girl
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 1, 2024 23:11:42 GMT
Bannon has always been a "Burn the whole thing down" kind of guy. What a waste.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 1, 2024 23:31:09 GMT
This has also been going on for years. Calling a Constitution Convention with Article V. There are already 19 Republican governed states signed on. I posted about this years ago. To have a Constitutional Convention is not all it's cracked up to be. They are getting to where they can make decisions without it going to a full public vote, which can take years.. just look at the few names listen to help to decide what you think . A mysterious group of Republicans is secretly rewriting the ConstitutionThom Hartmann.. commentary September 1, 2024 7:13AM ET Republicans have pulled off a coup against an entire branch of government, and nobody seems to have noticed. But if you pay attention, it’s shocking.Sometimes you can learn as much from attending to what Republicans suddenly stop saying as from what they are talking about. In this case, it’s their half-century-long obsession with convening a constitutional convention to rewrite the US Constitution. Under Article V of our Constitution, when two-thirds of the states formally call for a “con-con” to rewrite our nation’s founding document, it officially comes into being. They can then make small changes like enshrining the right of billionaires and corporations to bribe judges and politicians, or insert the doctrine of corporate personhood into the document, or simply throw the whole thing out and start over. Many on the right are hoping to insert a national ban on abortion into a new constitution; others want to end the right of women to vote, do away with all antidiscrimination laws, outlaw labor unions, or return the selection of senators to the states. So far, 19 Republican-controlled states have signed on to a call for for a convention under Article V. The project, heavily funded by rightwing billionaires, even has its own website: conventionofstates.com. Consider just a sampling of recent GOP supporters of the project:— Senator Marco Rubio: “One of the things I’m going to do on my first day in office is I will put the prestige and power of the presidency behind a constitutional convention of the states.” — Governor Greg Abbott: “We need a Convention of States to restore the rule of law in America.” — Governor Ron DeSantis: “An Article V Convention of States is the best way to bring power back to the states and the people.” — Congressman Jodey Arrington: “We need to go back to our founding document, back to our Constitution, and put the restraints on Congress that our founders intended.” — Senator Ted Cruz: “An Article V Convention of States is a powerful tool given to us by the Founders to rein in the federal government.” — Senator Rand Paul: “I’m a big fan of the Convention of States project. I think it’s the solution to Washington’s overreach.” But over the past year, Republicans have suddenly fallen silent on the issue. Project 2025, for example, the all-encompassing wish-list for the GOP and its billionaire owners, lacks even one single mention of a constitutional convention.Why would this be? The simple and obvious answer is that Republicans are rewriting the Constitution right now, this year and last, through their proxies among the six corrupt Republicans on the US Supreme Court. Having succeeded in seizing the Court, the GOP has been able to relax about their plan to call a convention. So far, just in the past two years, Republicans on the Court have taken an ax to the Constitution. They have: ...... And a whole LOT more in the piece.. www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/rewriting-constituion/
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Post by librarylady on Sept 1, 2024 23:39:28 GMT
I do not understand embracing a dictator...and voting to have one.
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Post by Merge on Sept 1, 2024 23:47:16 GMT
This has also been going on for years. Calling a Constitution Convention with Article V. There are already 19 Republican governed states signed on. I posted about this years ago. To have a Constitutional Convention is not all it's cracked up to be. They are getting to where they can make decisions without it going to a full public vote, which can take years.. just look at the few names listen to help to decide what you think . A mysterious group of Republicans is secretly rewriting the ConstitutionThom Hartmann.. commentary September 1, 2024 7:13AM ET Republicans have pulled off a coup against an entire branch of government, and nobody seems to have noticed. But if you pay attention, it’s shocking.Sometimes you can learn as much from attending to what Republicans suddenly stop saying as from what they are talking about. In this case, it’s their half-century-long obsession with convening a constitutional convention to rewrite the US Constitution. Under Article V of our Constitution, when two-thirds of the states formally call for a “con-con” to rewrite our nation’s founding document, it officially comes into being. They can then make small changes like enshrining the right of billionaires and corporations to bribe judges and politicians, or insert the doctrine of corporate personhood into the document, or simply throw the whole thing out and start over. Many on the right are hoping to insert a national ban on abortion into a new constitution; others want to end the right of women to vote, do away with all antidiscrimination laws, outlaw labor unions, or return the selection of senators to the states. So far, 19 Republican-controlled states have signed on to a call for for a convention under Article V. The project, heavily funded by rightwing billionaires, even has its own website: conventionofstates.com. Consider just a sampling of recent GOP supporters of the project:— Senator Marco Rubio: “One of the things I’m going to do on my first day in office is I will put the prestige and power of the presidency behind a constitutional convention of the states.” — Governor Greg Abbott: “We need a Convention of States to restore the rule of law in America.” — Governor Ron DeSantis: “An Article V Convention of States is the best way to bring power back to the states and the people.” — Congressman Jodey Arrington: “We need to go back to our founding document, back to our Constitution, and put the restraints on Congress that our founders intended.” — Senator Ted Cruz: “An Article V Convention of States is a powerful tool given to us by the Founders to rein in the federal government.” — Senator Rand Paul: “I’m a big fan of the Convention of States project. I think it’s the solution to Washington’s overreach.” But over the past year, Republicans have suddenly fallen silent on the issue. Project 2025, for example, the all-encompassing wish-list for the GOP and its billionaire owners, lacks even one single mention of a constitutional convention. Why would this be? The simple and obvious answer is that Republicans are rewriting the Constitution right now, this year and last, through their proxies among the six corrupt Republicans on the US Supreme Court. Having succeeded in seizing the Court, the GOP has been able to relax about their plan to call a convention. So far, just in the past two years, Republicans on the Court have taken an ax to the Constitution. They have: ...... And a whole LOT more in the piece.. www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/rewriting-constituion/Yes, and the other side of this coin is Christian nationalism, which was called Dominionism when I first started posting about it here, years ago. Claiming they have a mandate not just from people, but from God, is what will convince many people to go along with their plans.
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Post by Zee on Sept 1, 2024 23:48:52 GMT
I do not understand embracing a dictator...and voting to have one. Yes, what could possibly go wrong?
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 2, 2024 14:37:13 GMT
What scares me the most about a Trump presidency is the thought of JD Vance having to take over the presidency. He seems to be so easily swayed by right wing fanatics. I truly do not think he is terribly intelligent.
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Post by epeanymous on Sept 2, 2024 14:49:54 GMT
I do not understand embracing a dictator...and voting to have one. Whole lotta people out there who think that the dictator will dictatorially do things that benefit them personally and will harm the people they hate. Something something leopards eating faces.
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Post by flanz on Sept 2, 2024 15:06:22 GMT
What scares me the most about a Trump presidency is the thought of JD Vance having to take over the presidency. He seems to be so easily swayed by right wing fanatics. I truly do not think he is terribly intelligent. If Trump wins, I think JD goes by the wayside and all Trump kids + are installed as princes and princesses to reign the USA forever and ever. Not kidding. @merge - thanks for sharing these links. I'll read later and will likely share with some friends who are breathing easy following the DNC. No time for complacency!
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Post by Merge on Sept 2, 2024 15:07:38 GMT
What scares me the most about a Trump presidency is the thought of JD Vance having to take over the presidency. He seems to be so easily swayed by right wing fanatics. I truly do not think he is terribly intelligent. Mmmm, I don't think he lacks intelligence. I think, like Trump, he is some type of sociopath and fails to have any empathy for others. He thinks intelligence gives him the right or even the responsibility to control others because his ideas are the very best. One of Yarvin's most disturbing ideas was to poison homeless and poor people with cyanide and turn them into biodiesel. He describes this as "more efficient" than all the various programs to help the homeless and mitigate poverty. x.com/gilduran76/status/1816109970192298393(Yarvin's Twitter account was apparently suspended, though I'm sure Elon agrees with at least some of his ideas.) At some point, I hope someone in power will notice that the modern right seems to be influenced and led by a parade of literal Batman villains - horribly warped people who see other human beings as so much clutter standing between them and world domination.
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Post by Merge on Sept 2, 2024 15:10:33 GMT
What scares me the most about a Trump presidency is the thought of JD Vance having to take over the presidency. He seems to be so easily swayed by right wing fanatics. I truly do not think he is terribly intelligent. If Trump wins, I think JD goes by the wayside and all Trump kids + are installed as princes and princesses to reign the USA forever and ever. Not kidding. @merge - thanks for sharing these links. I'll read later and will likely share with some friends who are breathing easy following the DNC. No time for complacency! Right? I don't suppose it's occurred to JD that once you start doing away with the Constitution and any checks and balances on executive power, the office of the Vice Presidency (and the assumption of the VP's elevation to president up on the death of POTUS) all goes up in the air.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 21, 2024 6:47:57 GMT
If Trump wins, I think JD goes by the wayside and all Trump kids + are installed as princes and princesses to reign the USA forever and ever. Not kidding. @merge - thanks for sharing these links. I'll read later and will likely share with some friends who are breathing easy following the DNC. No time for complacency! Right? I don't suppose it's occurred to JD that once you start doing away with the Constitution and any checks and balances on executive power, the office of the Vice Presidency (and the assumption of the VP's elevation to president up on the death of POTUS) all goes up in the air. Unless Vance invokes the 25th amendment to get rid of TFG right away. He will take over whether sooner or later.. but he needs sooner before the tribe of trumps gets in there first.. and unfortunately he is a lot smarter then TFG!!
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Sept 21, 2024 11:15:32 GMT
I’ve always basically scoffed at people who declared they would move to another country if … <fill in the blank>.
Well…
I may be planning rather than scoffing.
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