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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 4, 2024 21:09:44 GMT
Our Open Enrollment time is coming up soon. I have never done an HSA, but there are some extra perks if you have one. DH had one a long time ago, and I felt like it did not really do anything. If we had a medical expense, they cut us a check for what was in the account, but now it talks about a card that carries your balance. From what I can understand, I pay into it and when I go to the Dr. I can use it for any out of pocket expenses. Does insurance cover anything prior to reaching my deductible? I always feel like I still end up paying a lot out of pocket when I go, but maybe I am not reaching my full deductible, so it would not.
Please explain it to me in the simplest of terms. I do understand the pre-tax part.
Thank you.
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Post by katlady on Sept 4, 2024 21:16:54 GMT
Pre-Tax = You are using money that has not been taxed. Say you have a $100 pre-tax expense. That is subtracted directly off your gross income. If it was an after-tax expense, the $100 is not deducted until after you pay taxes on the $100. A pre-tax deduction is always better than an after-tax deduction. You are paying less taxes.
I used to do HSA. The hard part was trying to spend it all up by the end of the year. I finally stopped doing it, except for when I knew I would have something major to pay during the year that was not fully covered by my insurance. All insurances are different. For my dental, my dentist can figure out how much my insurance will or will not pay when I check out, and I pay the difference right then. If I had an HSA card, I could run the card with my dentist. I could also use the card for my co-pay at the doctor's office.
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Post by lisae on Sept 4, 2024 21:18:03 GMT
I have a Health Savings Account. It requires that I choose insurance which is compatible with it. This greatly limits my insurance options but I am still probably choosing a similar plan than one I would choose without it. The plan does cost a little more than the one that isn't HSA compatible. I did this for the tax advantage. I can deposit up to $5,150 this year (I get the $1000 additional amount because I'm over 55.) The account this money is in gets a little better interest than a regular money market. The big advantage is the $5,150 tax deduction. I do not ever have to pay tax on the proceeds from this account if the money is used for medical expenses. When I turn 65, I can take the money out and use it for anything but I would have to pay taxes if I don't use it for medical. The account can not be used to pay premiums. As far as I understand, there is no requirement to ever take money out of it so it is like an IRA that doesn't have Required Minimum distribution.
I have a debit card I can use for medical expenses. I keep the receipts and I report on my taxes how much I spent each year. Of course you also have the bank statement that shows what you spent but you need the receipts in case of an audit.
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Post by Zee on Sept 4, 2024 21:18:21 GMT
Yes, it can be used to pay for medical expenses and medications that insurance doesn't cover, and you can use it to pay your deductible amount as well.
Every year (well, until insurance decided I don't need one) I had a follow up MRI. My deductible was $2000. Insurance would pay whatever is the agreed amount--let's say my MRI is 8k, they have a set amount in their contract with the provider that they will pay 5k, and my deductible is $2k. So my insurance sends the provider $3k and I have to pay $2k. I can use my HSA card to pay this amount.
In fact, that is why we have the HSA. You do not have to have that amount built up before using it (I can use that card for the 2k in January if needed), but if you quit or are fired you'll have to pay the difference.
Since I no longer am approved for a yearly MRI but was expecting to need one, I have this money to use. You can use for glasses, contacts, approved meds and equipment, certain treatments. I use it to get my compounded Mounjaro. I could use it for Botox for migraines if my insurance didn't cover it. (Though I only get Botox for cosmetic reasons!)
That kind of thing.
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Post by Zee on Sept 4, 2024 21:22:31 GMT
Adding: my info is for a HCFSA, a flexible spending account. This is not the same as an HSA, like the poster above was referring. Sorry!
So I'm not sure which one you mean--they are two different things. My HCFSA has a card that carries a balance and is easy to use.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 4, 2024 21:27:17 GMT
Pre-Tax = You are using money that has not been taxed. Say you have a $100 pre-tax expense. That is subtracted directly off your gross income. If it was an after-tax expense, the $100 is not deducted until after you pay taxes on the $100. A pre-tax deduction is always better than an after-tax deduction. You are paying less taxes. I used to do HSA. The hard part was trying to spend it all up by the end of the year. I finally stopped doing it, except for when I knew I would have something major to pay during the year that was not fully covered by my insurance. All insurances are different. For my dental, my dentist can figure out how much my insurance will or will not pay when I check out, and I pay the difference right then. If I had an HSA card, I could run the card with my dentist. I could also use the card for my co-pay at the doctor's office. My understanding is, it is not a use it or lose it, it can roll over. That was my concern as well. The FSA you need to spend down.
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Post by FrozenPea on Sept 4, 2024 21:32:13 GMT
I used to do HSA. The hard part was trying to spend it all up by the end of the year. If you had to use the amount by the end of the year that is an FSA. A HSA has no use by date. Your money on the hsa rolls over every year inlike a fsa. To have a HSA you have to have a high deductible plan. We have both. Currently our hsa has over $30k in it. We pay what bills we can without dipping in it and use it for bigger bills. What we pay in cash we claim on our taxes. We like having the hsa as a type of nest egg for when we retire. As said above, the money going into the hsa is taken out of your paycheck pre-tax. You never pay taxes on that money unless you use it for something that you can't claim as medical. We ran the numbers and even with the higher deductible we actually save money because we meet our deductible pretty quickly with my medications and health issues. Does that help? Edited to add: we do get a credit/debt card for our hsa. We use our airlines credit cards to get the miles and just submit our claim to our hsa to be reimbursed online and it is put directly into our checking account.
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Post by Laurie on Sept 4, 2024 23:57:17 GMT
We have an HSA and like it. You do not have to spend it down each year. I am putting quite a bit into it right now not only for the tax savings but also because I know within the next year or so dd will need braces and I can use my HSA.
Insurance still covers what they allow for charges. For example my annual exam and mammo were covered 100%. I had to have a diagnostic mammo and a breast ultrasound. Traditional insurance it would be an 80/20 split for what I would have had to pay. With the HSA I had to pay 100% which ended up being $750 for both of them.
Our insurance broker told us HSA makes sense for those that reach their out of pocket max each year (because the out of pocket max for the HSA is lower than the traditional insurance at my place of employemwnr) or for those that don’t go to the Dr often (which is where we fall).
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Post by anaterra on Sept 5, 2024 2:15:41 GMT
Our hsa is through bank of america... we do not have to use it up.... it rolls over each year... my company deposits 1000 for each employee and 500 for each dependent in January.... that is super nice... i add to mine each week... it gets pulled straight out of my paycheck...
I use it for all medications... even over the counter stuff... i have also used it for botox... but i don't get that anymore....
I am going to start using it for the shots!!!
Dh uses his at gnc for protein and supplements
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