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Post by allison1954 on Sept 8, 2024 20:24:31 GMT
I actually feel that way about Penzeys.
Whether I agree with your thoughts, keep them out of your store and my spices.
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 8, 2024 20:49:21 GMT
I couldn't let this one pass by without comment. *Christianity* is NOT actually working to harm women. I don't get annoyed by much on this board, and I am very flame-proof after working in churches for so many years  -- but this one does annoy me. I see this a lot here, where some of you mix up "Christianity" with "right-wing evangelical so-called Christians". As many times and I and others have said that the two are not the same there are still people here who continue to do it. So either you're doing it on purpose, or you truly think that all of us who call ourselves Christians are the same. I am sorry for those of you who have been hurt in churches in the past, and I am sorry for people who are being hurt by churches currently. As a chaplain I do hear these stories.  -- And I am always angry when the far-right wackos start cherry-picking scripture (usually the Old Testament) to support their bigoted misogynistic worldview. And when I hear them say anything about putting religion in schools, because of course they mean their own view of Christianity, which excludes any of us progressive Christians, not to mention all the Jewish children, the Muslim children, and any child who isn't part of any particular faith community. But -- not all Christians are like that. So please keep that in mind. Just my two cents for this Sunday.  I do know the Catholic Church has spent generous amounts of money to aid in anti abortion legislation in many states. Although I don’t usually attend Church, I found myself attending a mass the weekend before the Nov 2016 election. The priest read a letter that the Bishop had sent to all his parishes which pretty much instructed all good godly people to vote for Trump who was not in favor of abortion. It’s not just the right wing wakos. But why is it that you don't think of that bishop as being a right wing wacko? I do. I promise you that our General Presbyter (the Presbyterian version of a bishop, although with many more checks and balances to her or his power) will never be sending a letter to any church within their Presbytery telling them how to vote. Just because someone is Roman Catholic doesn't mean they can't be a right-wing wacko. |
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Post by cecilia on Sept 8, 2024 21:04:04 GMT
I had people give me religious pamphlets when I worked at Walmart. I thanked them and as soon as they left I threw it away Just curious if Walmart has any policy about that. Could you refuse anything a customer gives you or do you have to accept it with a smile on your face? If they did I never knew of one. Lived in a very religious area so it happened a lot. I just smiled, took it, then trashed it. Didn't want to piss off a customer because my managers were very 'customer is always right' managers even if it went against policy. |
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Post by cecilia on Sept 8, 2024 21:05:32 GMT
I had people give me religious pamphlets when I worked at Walmart. I thanked them and as soon as they left I threw it away Offering you a pamphlet in that way is very different though - you’re in a public place and you can choose not to take one. Sending one into someone’s home unbidden is rude and very presumptuous. I was still at my place of employment though. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 8, 2024 21:15:00 GMT
There are restaurants here that print bible verses on their hamburger wrappers, and in my area we have a carwash that is festooned with plaques with bible verses and Christian "inspirational" stuff, but forewarned is forearmed and we can avoid patronizing those places if we wish. So that's fine with me. But being ambushed by proselytizing during a business transaction is, I agree, inappropriate. The eggs at at least our area Aldi stores have a biblical verse printed inside the cartons, but it's just as you said, you can avoid buying them if you wish. Hmmm, glad I've never shopped at Aldi then. Or at least I'd want to avoid those eggs. |
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Post by gar on Sept 8, 2024 21:16:33 GMT
Offering you a pamphlet in that way is very different though - you’re in a public place and you can choose not to take one. Sending one into someone’s home unbidden is rude and very presumptuous. I was still at my place of employment though. Ah yes, I somehow didn’t see that when I read your post the first time. My apologies 😊 |
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Post by Merge on Sept 8, 2024 21:17:54 GMT
I actually feel that way about Penzeys. Whether I agree with your thoughts, keep them out of your store and my spices. To my knowledge, the only place they express their beliefs is in those emails (which you are free to unsubscribe from, and of course you're also welcome to not shop there at all). I've never seen any evidence of politics in their store here or when they ship spices to me. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 8, 2024 21:19:33 GMT
I do know the Catholic Church has spent generous amounts of money to aid in anti abortion legislation in many states. Although I don’t usually attend Church, I found myself attending a mass the weekend before the Nov 2016 election. The priest read a letter that the Bishop had sent to all his parishes which pretty much instructed all good godly people to vote for Trump who was not in favor of abortion. It’s not just the right wing wakos. But why is it that you don't think of that bishop as being a right wing wacko? I do. I promise you that our General Presbyter (the Presbyterian version of a bishop, although with many more checks and balances to her or his power) will never be sending a letter to any church within their Presbytery telling them how to vote. Just because someone is Roman Catholic doesn't mean they can't be a right-wing wacko. Having grown up among verrrrry conservative Catholics, I can assure everyone that there are many right-wing wackos in the Catholic church, both in the priesthood and the congregation. JD Vance is Catholic, is he not? |
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Post by pilcas on Sept 8, 2024 21:34:27 GMT
But why is it that you don't think of that bishop as being a right wing wacko? I do. I promise you that our General Presbyter (the Presbyterian version of a bishop, although with many more checks and balances to her or his power) will never be sending a letter to any church within their Presbytery telling them how to vote. Just because someone is Roman Catholic doesn't mean they can't be a right-wing wacko. Having grown up among verrrrry conservative Catholics, I can assure everyone that there are many right-wing wackos in the Catholic church, both in the priesthood and the congregation. JD Vance is Catholic, is he not? Yes, I think you may be right! |
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Post by nightnurse on Sept 8, 2024 21:51:34 GMT
“Not all Christians” is just like “not at all men.” How am I to know at casual glance which ones are which? Just like when the talk is of rape culture and the dangerousness of men, what I need men to say is something that denounces that, not something that defends themselves, it isn’t helpful to hear “not all christians” instead of “you’re right, Christians shouldn’t the working to legislate their own morality and maybe they should start by doing away with the unwanted proselytizing.” If a man feels like pointing out he’s safer than the bear, he’s probably not. And if your instinct is to say oh don’t be bothered by Christian propaganda because Christians like me are great, well….im still sticking with the bear.
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Post by gar on Sept 8, 2024 22:09:11 GMT
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Post by pilcas on Sept 9, 2024 1:13:55 GMT
But why is it that you don't think of that bishop as being a right wing wacko? I do. I promise you that our General Presbyter (the Presbyterian version of a bishop, although with many more checks and balances to her or his power) will never be sending a letter to any church within their Presbytery telling them how to vote. Just because someone is Roman Catholic doesn't mean they can't be a right-wing wacko. Having grown up among verrrrry conservative Catholics, I can assure everyone that there are many right-wing wackos in the Catholic church, both in the priesthood and the congregation. JD Vance is Catholic, is he not? You make a very valid point. |
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Post by melanell on Sept 9, 2024 11:11:48 GMT
The eggs at at least our area Aldi stores have a biblical verse printed inside the cartons, but it's just as you said, you can avoid buying them if you wish. Hmmm, glad I've never shopped at Aldi then. Or at least I'd want to avoid those eggs. Yes, apparently the company who distributes the eggs has been including that in their cartons for decades. I've never seen anything else like that on any product at Aldi. It's definitely not an Aldi generated thing. (Although, of course, they are choosing to use that distributer, of course.) |
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Post by Zee on Sept 9, 2024 11:19:53 GMT
Hmmm, glad I've never shopped at Aldi then. Or at least I'd want to avoid those eggs. Yes, apparently the company who distributes the eggs has been including that in their cartons for decades. I've never seen anything else like that on any product at Aldi. It's definitely not an Aldi generated thing. (Although, of course, they are choosing to use that distributer, of course.) I think I vaguely remember this at Aldi in PA but I don't recall seeing that here. I'll have to look next time (no Aldi eggs here right now) It obviously didn't make much of an impression on me if I can't really remember it though. |
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Post by melanell on Sept 9, 2024 11:20:21 GMT
I couldn't let this one pass by without comment. *Christianity* is NOT actually working to harm women. I don't get annoyed by much on this board, and I am very flame-proof after working in churches for so many years -- but this one does annoy me. I see this a lot here, where some of you mix up "Christianity" with "right-wing evangelical so-called Christians". As many times and I and others have said that the two are not the same there are still people here who continue to do it. So either you're doing it on purpose, or you truly think that all of us who call ourselves Christians are the same. I am sorry for those of you who have been hurt in churches in the past, and I am sorry for people who are being hurt by churches currently. As a chaplain I do hear these stories. -- And I am always angry when the far-right wackos start cherry-picking scripture (usually the Old Testament) to support their bigoted misogynistic worldview. And when I hear them say anything about putting religion in schools, because of course they mean their own view of Christianity, which excludes any of us progressive Christians, not to mention all the Jewish children, the Muslim children, and any child who isn't part of any particular faith community. But -- not all Christians are like that. So please keep that in mind. Just my two cents for this Sunday. I do know the Catholic Church has spent generous amounts of money to aid in anti abortion legislation in many states. Although I don’t usually attend Church, I found myself attending a mass the weekend before the Nov 2016 election. The priest read a letter that the Bishop had sent to all his parishes which pretty much instructed all good godly people to vote for Trump who was not in favor of abortion. It’s not just the right wing wakos. I remember visiting an older relative once, and she had out on her table a glossy oversized postcard that she had received in church (Catholic) that day telling her who she should vote for in all of the races on the ballot that year. And that postcard was like Gospel to her. She was showing it to everyone so they would know who the church said they should vote for, too. And it's easy for me to roll my eyes and think "Yeah, I don't need your help deciding who to vote for, Catholic Church.", but for some people who have grown up in the church, especially those who are old enough to have grown up in it when it basically controlled all aspects of life, they don't think that way. Some definitely think that they are serving God when they vote the way they are told, and to do otherwise is to purposely sin. |
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-- but this one does annoy me. I see this a lot here, where some of you mix up "Christianity" with "right-wing evangelical so-called Christians". As many times and I and others have said that the two are not the same there are still people here who continue to do it. So either you're doing it on purpose, or you truly think that all of us who call ourselves Christians are the same. 
-- And I am always angry when the far-right wackos start cherry-picking scripture (usually the Old Testament) to support their bigoted misogynistic worldview. And when I hear them say anything about putting religion in schools, because of course they mean their own view of Christianity, which excludes any of us progressive Christians, not to mention all the Jewish children, the Muslim children, and any child who isn't part of any particular faith community. 
