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Post by onelasttime on Sept 7, 2024 23:06:02 GMT
I decided to add a poll. IMO if he’s elected he will try and deport 11M undocumented migrants. It will be bloody as he says and I believe will throw this country into a recession if not a depression. Happy thoughts for a Sunday morning. So the convicted felon said today his plan to round up and deport undocumented migrants will be a “bloody operation”. Just imagine what that will look like. Acyn… ”BREAKING: In a terrifying moment, Donald Trump says that his Project 2025 plan to round up migrants will be a bloody operation. This is what fascism looks like. Retweet to make sure every American sees this and knows how dangerous Trump is.” Dr Jack Brown… ”Scream this from the rooftops. An oft overlooked (at our peril) component of Trump's psychological pathology is his deep & profound Sadism. He derives pleasure from other people's suffering & death. And Sadistic Personality Disorder never exists in isolation (see Dark Tetrad).” x.com/harris_wins/status/1832504561602351540?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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Post by FrozenPea on Sept 8, 2024 2:21:43 GMT
Terrifying.
Vote Blue!
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 8, 2024 2:51:42 GMT
Tonight was the first time I heard or read where his deportation plan would be bloody.
The man lies all the time but every once in awhile a truth will creep in amongst the lies. And I think this was one of those times.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 8, 2024 4:15:46 GMT
This … Aaron Rupar ”Trump, pretending immigrants have taken over swaths of America, says that "as soon as I'm back in the White House the conquest will & the great liberation of America will begin...we will take back every single square inch of territory that has been invaded by these migrant gangs" Prompted this from Jason… ”Combine this with Trump today saying this will be “bloody” and what you end up with is the American military being asked to go into cities (take a guess which ones) and things getting intentionally violent. But again, maybe the Trump Death Squads won’t affect you, right?” x.com/jkarsh/status/1832628557312618795?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 8, 2024 15:19:38 GMT
Aaron Rupar posted this morning a reminder of what the CF said yesterday.
“Trump yesterday in Wisconsin on his promised mass deportation: "Getting them out will be a bloody story."
Which prompted this response from Willie..
”These comments by Trump should be the headlines on every network & in every print outlet. If they are not it’s journalistic malpractice.”
He does have a point.
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Post by Merge on Sept 8, 2024 15:23:51 GMT
I mean, Greg Abbott said straight out that the only thing keeping him from shooting migrants at the border was the fact that the Biden administration would prosecute him for murder. If Trump is back in power and unlikely to prosecute, I would expect Abbott to start having Operation Lone Star become Operation Death Star. Shoot anyone attempting to cross, North Korea style.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 8, 2024 15:34:53 GMT
Here is another thing CF promises to do. Not content to rid this country of undocumented migrants, he’s going after his perceived political enemies.
From Truth Social…
”CEASE & DESIST: I, together with many Attorneys and Legal Scholars, am watching the Sanctity of the 2024 Presidential Election very closely because I know, better than most, the rampant Cheating and Skullduggery that has taken place by the Democrats in the 2020 Presidential Election. It was a Disgrace to our Nation! Therefore, the 2024 Election, where Votes have just started being cast, will be under the closest professional scrutiny and, WHEN I WIN, those people that CHEATED will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law, which will include long term prison sentences so that this Depravity of Justice does not happen again. We cannot let our Country further devolve into a Third World Nation, AND WE WON’T! Please beware that this legal exposure extends to Lawyers, Political Operatives, Donors, Illegal Voters, & Corrupt Election Officials. Those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels, unfortunately, never seen before in our Country.
Donald Trump Truth Social 07:01 AM EST 09/07/24
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Post by Just T on Sept 8, 2024 15:35:53 GMT
Honestly, this very thing scares the crap out of me! I think I have shared this before. My son recently married the sweetest most darling girl who is from Mexico. She is here on a legal travel visa and doing everything she needs to do to be able to live and work here legally. First of all, they have spent a shit ton of money only to be scammed by a shady lawyer who took their money and did nothing. (ETA: I should clarify this was an attorney they hired when he was living with her in Mexico. Someone who was recommended to her. Their new attorney is here in the US). Now, they are starting all over with a new attorney. I worry so much about her out walking her dog in their neighborhood and "looking illegal." I've told her, whatever paperwork she is given as they go through this process, please always carry it with her. I'm trying not to scare her, but the the legal climate right now and the horrible rhetoric does frighten me. She is not here illegally, but good grief, to think that if she goes out of their house without the proper identifying paperwork is scary right now.
Why more people don't see Trump for the danger that he is is totally mindboggling to me.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 8, 2024 15:44:03 GMT
I decided to add a poll. IMO if he’s elected he will try and deport 11M undocumented migrants. It will be bloody as he says and I believe will throw this country into a recession if not a depression. Happy thoughts for a Sunday morning. So the convicted felon said today his plan to round up and deport undocumented migrants will be a “bloody operation”. Just imagine what that will look like. Acyn… ”BREAKING: In a terrifying moment, Donald Trump says that his Project 2025 plan to round up migrants will be a bloody operation. This is what fascism looks like. Retweet to make sure every American sees this and knows how dangerous Trump is.” Dr Jack Brown… ”Scream this from the rooftops. An oft overlooked (at our peril) component of Trump's psychological pathology is his deep & profound Sadism. He derives pleasure from other people's suffering & death. And Sadistic Personality Disorder never exists in isolation (see Dark Tetrad).” x.com/harris_wins/status/1832504561602351540?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nwAnd the trump family should never have been allowed to come into our country. Some of my family came before the Mayflower, long before his grandfather about 100 years ago.... You lose donOLD!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 8, 2024 15:48:58 GMT
They will pick up any one is speaking Spanish .
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Post by questioning on Sept 8, 2024 17:55:20 GMT
I mean, Greg Abbott said straight out that the only thing keeping him from shooting migrants at the border was the fact that the Biden administration would prosecute him for murder. If Trump is back in power and unlikely to prosecute, I would expect Abbott to start having Operation Lone Star become Operation Death Star. Shoot anyone attempting to cross, North Korea style. I was about to vote NO, mainly because Trump is hot air and accomplishes very little. But he's not the only one to worry about. His scummy little cronies like Abbott are just waiting for a chance to act on their agendas.
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Post by don on Sept 8, 2024 18:25:33 GMT
Maybe we should send the Statue of Liberty back to France. Seems it kind of lost it's meaning.
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Post by alsomsknit on Sept 8, 2024 19:40:40 GMT
I mean, Greg Abbott said straight out that the only thing keeping him from shooting migrants at the border was the fact that the Biden administration would prosecute him for murder. If Trump is back in power and unlikely to prosecute, I would expect Abbott to start having Operation Lone Star become Operation Death Star. Shoot anyone attempting to cross, North Korea style. The sad thing is I think there would be a line up of people who would gleefully kill migrants in cold blood.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 8, 2024 20:03:26 GMT
I mean, Greg Abbott said straight out that the only thing keeping him from shooting migrants at the border was the fact that the Biden administration would prosecute him for murder. If Trump is back in power and unlikely to prosecute, I would expect Abbott to start having Operation Lone Star become Operation Death Star. Shoot anyone attempting to cross, North Korea style. The sad thing is I think there would be a line up of people who would gleefully kill migrants in cold blood. And they have the guns to do it from far away to up close and personal... The monsters they are, their willingness to shoot people!
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 8, 2024 22:23:53 GMT
we will take back every single square inch of territory that has been invaded by these migrant gangs" ...using our redneck gangs to do it! please always carry it with her. I'd suggest she carry a copy. The cruelty's the point with these lunatics, so they could take her papers to make it easier the next time.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 9, 2024 0:23:49 GMT
Reed Galen…
”Now that @realdonaldtrump has said his mass deportation effort will be 'bloody' I have a modest proposal for @nytimes @washingtonpost @wsj @usatoday @politico @nbcnews @cbsnews and @abc: Ask him and his campaign these simple questions: 1/“
”1. How are you going to identify who gets deported? 2. How will you distinguish between undocumented immigrants, naturalized citizens, and native-born Americans? 3.Who will carry out this program? What will their rules of engagement be? 2/l
“4. Will you deputize state and local law enforcement to assist? What if the governor refuses to cooperate? 5. Once you’ve identified them, how are you going to take them into custody? 6. What happens if they refuse to go peacefully? 3/“
“7. What happens to their property: Homes, cars, personal items, post-detention and deportation? 8. Once you’ve taken them into custody, where will they be housed before deportation? 4/l
“9. Assuming you’ll need holding facilities, where will they be and who will maintain their security and sanitary conditions? How will you ensure families are not (again) separated? 10. If a federal court enjoins the deportations, will you abide by their ruling, or proceed anyway?”
”11. What vehicle (car, plane, boat, spaceship, ark) do you plan to use in the deportation of 10 million people? 12. What happens if the country to which you’re sending these people refuses to accept them? 6/“
”13. How will you account for the economic wreckage caused by millions of people being taken out of both the taxpayer and consumer populations?
This isn't a program, it's a pogrom. It's not law & order, it's ethnic cleansing. 7x”
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 9, 2024 0:33:31 GMT
Here is another thing CF promises to do. Not content to rid this country of undocumented migrants, he’s going after his perceived political enemies. From Truth Social… ”CEASE & DESIST: I, together with many Attorneys and Legal Scholars, am watching the Sanctity of the 2024 Presidential Election very closely because I know, better than most, the rampant Cheating and Skullduggery that has taken place by the Democrats in the 2020 Presidential Election. It was a Disgrace to our Nation! Therefore, the 2024 Election, where Votes have just started being cast, will be under the closest professional scrutiny and, WHEN I WIN, those people that CHEATED will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law, which will include long term prison sentences so that this Depravity of Justice does not happen again. We cannot let our Country further devolve into a Third World Nation, AND WE WON’T! Please beware that this legal exposure extends to Lawyers, Political Operatives, Donors, Illegal Voters, & Corrupt Election Officials. Those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels, unfortunately, never seen before in our Country.Donald Trump Truth Social 07:01 AM EST 09/07/24 In 2020 it was Marc Elias’s team of lawyers that won 60+ cases filed to stop the counting of ballots and the certification of the election. Since then his firm has very high win rate lawsuits filed because of gerrymandering or voter suppression. Its lawyers like Elias and his time who trump’s coming after. Marc Elias… ”Donald Trump is plotting to subvert the results of the November election. Now, he is threatening that if he wins he will weaponize DOJ against those of us fighting to protect democracy.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 9, 2024 1:45:57 GMT
we will take back every single square inch of territory that has been invaded by these migrant gangs" ...using our redneck gangs to do it! please always carry it with her. I'd suggest she carry a copy. The cruelty's the point with these lunatics, so they could take her papers to make it easier the next time. Several years ago a man who was arrested had his papers and his wife's disappear when they took him away. He was not legal, she was. Yes carry copies. Secure the originals not at home . They need to be elsewhere, preferably in a safe deposit box or such *** Naturalized citizens tend to keep their paper close, because they are extremely precious to them. They value them greatly.. Hopefully they will be guided to secure them safely...
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Post by dizzycheermom on Sept 9, 2024 2:58:26 GMT
I have been asking this for a few months. What is this going to look like? Will they pull over only those who look hispanic or all non-whites? What if they have legitimate papers and the LEO doesn't believe it?
I have a 15 mo old mixed race grandson (black and white) but have had a couple people ask if he is half hispanic. Will I need to carry some kind of papers for him when I take him out while babysitting? What about my son-in-law who is black, will a driver's license be enough or will he need to carry a birth certificate?
I am furious that the MSM is not calling trump out more on his platform and craziness. The Heather Cox Richardson letter from Sept 7 should be required reading. Many things scare me about a second trump presidency but this terrifies me for what could happen to friends and family.
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Post by andreasmom on Sept 9, 2024 5:41:39 GMT
I have been asking this for a few months. What is this going to look like? Will they pull over only those who look hispanic or all non-whites? What if they have legitimate papers and the LEO doesn't believe it? I have a 15 mo old mixed race grandson (black and white) but have had a couple people ask if he is half hispanic. Will I need to carry some kind of papers for him when I take him out while babysitting? What about my son-in-law who is black, will a driver's license be enough or will he need to carry a birth certificate? I am furious that the MSM is not calling trump out more on his platform and craziness. The Heather Cox Richardson letter from Sept 7 should be required reading. Many things scare me about a second trump presidency but this terrifies me for what could happen to friends and family. Can you inagine all those latin families in Texas, NM, AZ, CA, NV who have been here for 300+ years but “look latin” hence they must be deported? But those europeans on expired visas? Nope, we will never see them deport those white illegals. Magas are lunatics!
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 9, 2024 11:15:26 GMT
He really has gone off the deep end on immigration. Here’s the article dizzycheermom was referring to heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-7-2024And then he went full-blown apocalyptic, attacking immigrants and claiming that crime, which in reality has dropped dramatically since President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris took office after a spike during his own term, has made the U.S. uninhabitable. He said that “If I don’t win Colorado, it will be taken over by migrants and the governor will be sent fleeing.” "Migrants and crime are here in our country at levels never thought possible before…. You're not safe even sitting here, to be honest with you. I'm the only one that's going to get it done. Everybody is saying that." He urged people to protest “because you’re being overrun by criminals.”
He assured attendees that "If you think you have a nice house, have a migrant enjoy your house, because a migrant will take it over. A migrant will take it over. It will be Venezuela on steroids." He reiterated his plan to get rid of migrants. “And you know,” he said, “getting them out will be a bloody story.”
He went on to try to rev up supporters in words very similar to those he used on January 6th, 2021, but focused on this election. “Every citizen who’s sick and tired of the parasitic political class in Washington that sucks our country of its blood and treasure, November fifth will be your liberation day. November fifth, this year, will be the most important day in the history of our country because we’re not going to have a country anymore if we don’t win.”
Whatever has caused it, Trump seems utterly off his pins, embracing wild conspiracy theories and, as his hopes of winning the election appear to be crumbling, threatening vengeance with a dogged fury that he used to be able to hide.
www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-migrants-bloody-story-border-control-deportation-1950386
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Post by melanell on Sept 9, 2024 15:46:06 GMT
I don't believe most of what he says in terms of the promises he makes to his followers.
That being said, as they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day, so if all of his promises are dreadful and he manages to pull off even a few of them, then they're clearly not something I will want to see happen.
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 9, 2024 19:24:45 GMT
She is not here illegally, but good grief, to think that if she goes out of their house without the proper identifying paperwork is scary right now. Do any of us want to live in a country where "having one's paperwork in order" can be a menacing phrase? He assured attendees that "If you think you have a nice house, have a migrant enjoy your house, because a migrant will take it over. A migrant will take it over. It will be Venezuela on steroids." He reiterated his plan to get rid of migrants. “And you know,” he said, “getting them out will be a bloody story.” He really sounds as if he's rolled out of his cannon and and is bouncing down the hill, unattended.
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 9, 2024 19:31:54 GMT
What if they have legitimate papers and the LEO doesn't believe it? I'm guessing they'd turn them over to the Ghoul in Chief, Stephen Miller. Heaven knows what HE might have in mind.
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Post by Just T on Sept 9, 2024 19:43:11 GMT
She is not here illegally, but good grief, to think that if she goes out of their house without the proper identifying paperwork is scary right now. Do any of us want to live in a country where "having one's paperwork in order" can be a menacing phrase? He assured attendees that "If you think you have a nice house, have a migrant enjoy your house, because a migrant will take it over. A migrant will take it over. It will be Venezuela on steroids." He reiterated his plan to get rid of migrants. “And you know,” he said, “getting them out will be a bloody story.” He really sounds as if he's rolled out of his cannon and and is bouncing down the hill, unattended.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 9, 2024 20:09:23 GMT
Ignore him at your own peril. This might be his 2nd great wall, but imagine of he or his cronies manage to detain or deport a significant number of immigrants. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/09/09/trump-deport-immigrants-tariffs-democracy-policies/Amid all his nonsensical ramblings, Donald Trump vows to impose three radical policies that are violent, antidemocratic and monumentally foolish. Do not dismiss these promises as “just Trump being Trump.” Believe the man when he tells you who he is and what he means to do if he is again elected president.
In virtually every campaign speech, Trump pledges to deport up to 12 million undocumented immigrants. It might sound impossible, but there is no reason to doubt he would try. Demonizing immigrants has been a consistent theme for Trump since his first campaign, and as president he punished asylum-seekers by deliberately separating families and housing children in cages.
On Saturday, at a rally in Wisconsin, Trump justified this plan by citing a false story about Venezuelan gang members having taken over an apartment complex in a Denver suburb. Police there say no such thing happened. But Trump trumpeted the lie and said that expelling migrants from the country “will be a bloody story.”
Imagine how bloody it would be to rip millions of men, women and children out of communities across the nation. Stephen Miller, the adviser most responsible for immigration policy during Trump’s presidency, has envisioned using the National Guard to “go around the country arresting illegal immigrants in large-scale raids.” Miller’s fever dream goes on to imagine “large-scale staging grounds near the border, most likely in Texas” where migrants would await transport by air to their home countries.
Even if you put aside the inhumanity of such a program, imagine the impact on the economy. Trump tells audiences that undocumented migrants are taking “Black jobs” and “Hispanic jobs,” but overall unemployment is near historic lows. Employers in cities and towns nationwide would be bereft.
Yes, this is madness. But experience teaches that Trump and his team, objectively, are mad.
Anyone who wonders whether a second Trump term would really be so bad should listen to what he intends to do. It won’t just be bad. It will be much, much worse.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 9, 2024 21:33:44 GMT
aj2hallI mentioned this in another post. His project 2025 plan IS to make the former immigrants into the new Black and Hispanic jobs'. He proposes that with the schools all voucher the POC and poor will not have the difference in $$ to go to paid schools and will do without or attend poorly funded public schools. Their lives will be limited to his choice of jobs for them. Those of means will afford to attend the better voucher schools and some chosen advance into higher education. Only his chosen ones will move forward, the rest of us including POC will fall backward and possess little of value. This is the reason for high birth rates for the poor and POC, who will be easily replaced by the next wave. Pro-birth, who will care as we die, there will be more right behind us to fill the every rest menial jobs... Many states have cut back/repealed their child labor laws. Let those kids die in the fields, work in factories, meat packing plants... More kids waiting in line to fill them. With little or no education, what options do they, we, have under 2025..
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 9, 2024 21:42:55 GMT
He's really gone off the rails. I hope the ABC moderators fact check him if he says any of this nonsense www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/us/politics/trump-vance-haitians-ohio.htmlTrump Campaign Amplifies False Claim About Haitian Migrants in Ohio A local official said there was “absolutely no evidence” that Haitian migrants have stolen and eaten pets, an outlandish claim amplified by the Trump campaign on Monday. The Trump campaign promoted an outlandish false claim on Monday that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, have abducted and eaten their neighbors’ pets, again demonizing migrants as the campaign seeks to attack Vice President Kamala Harris on immigration.
A news release from the campaign on Monday recounted the falsehoods, which were amplified earlier in the day by former President Donald J. Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, and sought to stoke fear, saying “it’s coming to your city next.”
Other prominent Republican elected officials and organizations, including Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, the House Republican campaign arm and the Republican-led House Judiciary Committee, promoted false claims about pets or park wildlife being eaten on Monday.
The notion stems from viral social media posts that city officials say there is no evidence for.
Karen Graves, a spokeswoman for the city of Springfield, said in a statement that “there have been no credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.” The city’s police division also said it had received no reports related to pets being stolen and eaten, according to The Springfield-News Sun.
The false claims being promoted by the Trump campaign tapped into old racist stereotypes that have been directed at immigrants, accusing them of abducting and killing animals to cook and eat or, in the case of Haitian migrants, using them in religious sacrifices.
Haiti and migrants from the country, who are overwhelmingly Black, have been the focus of Mr. Trump’s vitriol before. In 2021, Mr. Trump said that Haitian migrants were spreading AIDS to the United States, saying “it’s like a death wish for our country.” Mr. Trump has also referred to Haiti as a “shithole” country in remarks denigrating Haitian immigrants.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 9, 2024 21:47:00 GMT
Here's a quick list of just eight items of Project 2025! A new analysis of the controversial policy platform former President Donald Trump denies supporting, despite contributions from more than 100 of his former staffers, revealed Monday eight significant ways its implementation could upend Americans' lives. The Heritage Foundation policy plan Project 2025 was subjected to a brutal takedown from New York Times contributor Steven Rattner, a former counselor to the Treasury secretary under former President Barack Obama, who argued it would devastate all but the very rich.*** According to Rattner and researchers from the Center for American Progress, here's how. 1. Taxes would triple for low-income AmericansProject 2025 proposes to simplify tax brackets into two groups, 15 percent and 30 percent, while eliminating deductions and credits, Rattner wrote. Their plan would raise taxes for U.S. families earning less than $170,000 a year and nearly triple them for a family earning $75,000. Meanwhile, the affluent would get tax cuts. 2. Nearly 20 million Americans would lose healthcare coverageProject 2025 would impose a lifetime cap on Medicaid, the low-income healthcare provider, rendering it inaccessible to about 19 million people, or 5 percent of the country’s population, Rattner's analysis found. The odds are one in 20. 3. Preschoolers would take a hitProject 2025 would eliminate Head Start and giving the money to parents, according to Rattner. He notes the federal preschool program is mostly used in rural counties, where voters are predicted to vote for Trump. 4. 180,000 less jobs for teachersProject 2025 would phase out $18 billion in federal funding allocated to education aid program Title I. According to the Center for American Progress, the move would decimate 180,000 teacher positions, nearly 6 percent of the teacher workforce of roughly 3.2 million public school teachers. 5. Student loan payments would 'balloon'Project 2025 have existing borrowers repay the loans on their existing terms, eliminating loan forgiveness, Rattner wrote. Monthly payments for those who never earned a college degree would nearly quadruple, from $78 to $308 and college graduates would pay nearly three times as much as they pay now. 6. Airport and road conditions would deteriorateProject 2025 seeks to repeal the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, which pumps hundreds of billions of federal dollars into state infrastructure projects. 7. No more abortion pills for womenProject 2025 calls on the Food and Drug Administration to ban mifepristone, which now accounts for 63 percent of all abortions in the U.S., according to Rattner. 8. But more power for TrumpProject 2025 wants to reinstate Trump's repealed policy that reclassified 50,000 civil servants as political appointees, Rattner noted. "This may sound like inside baseball, but it is a critically important issue," he concluded. "A huge increase in the number of political appointees (there are currently only about 4,000) would substantially increase the reach of presidential power." www.rawstory.com/trump-project-2025-2669151332/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 9, 2024 21:51:55 GMT
aj2hallMaybe they should talk to their new found cohort RFKJr... And what he eats and does to animals... Eating a dog/goat in the far east, what ever gave him the brain worms, the bear cub/road kill, the whale head he used a chain saw to cut off and transported on the roof of his car with his kids IN it .. Great examples...
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