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Post by onelasttime on Sept 18, 2024 1:31:33 GMT
Drops dead.
That would make Vance President.
He’s a smart racist cold blooded SOB that could be a greater threat to this country than trump!
Agree? Disagree?
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Sept 18, 2024 1:55:44 GMT
Agree. I think Vance is smarter than Trump (low bar) but the scarier part of it is everyone else in MAGA who’s in government now and what they can do no matter if it’s Trump or Vance.
I say this all the time but I still believe we can stop it. Good just has to win and I think we’re as close to the brink as America has ever been. Stay strong and vote blue!
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Post by lisae on Sept 18, 2024 2:06:42 GMT
I should not read 'political nightmare' threads right before I'm going to bed. It isn't as though I hadn't thought about Vance as president but it isn't something I want to sleep on.
I saw a sign for early voting today. I can't wait.
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Post by epeanymous on Sept 18, 2024 2:10:18 GMT
Both scenarios are bad. I think that if Trump dies, however, I’m not super confident everyone will fall in line behind Vance.
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Post by Merge on Sept 18, 2024 2:13:45 GMT
Both scenarios are bad. I think that if Trump dies, however, I’m not super confident everyone will fall in line behind Vance. I mean ... unless they've already set aside the constitution (possible), doesn't the VP have to become president if the pres dies? Not saying he'd be elected for another term. I think Vance is even worse than Trump. He's in the same box with Ted Cruz as far as I can see.
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Post by edie3 on Sept 18, 2024 3:12:17 GMT
What really scares me is, without a doubt, trump will declare himself the winner. No matter the results.
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Post by luckyjune on Sept 18, 2024 3:18:02 GMT
It looks like this is Vance's entire angle. He's an opportunist, so kissing up to the one he previously called America's Hitler gets him into the VP spot, banking on the probability that Trump drops dead before four years is up. Vance slides in as president, slam dunk.
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Post by epeanymous on Sept 18, 2024 4:08:11 GMT
Both scenarios are bad. I think that if Trump dies, however, I’m not super confident everyone will fall in line behind Vance. I mean ... unless they've already set aside the constitution (possible), doesn't the VP have to become president if the pres dies? Not saying he'd be elected for another term. I think Vance is even worse than Trump. He's in the same box with Ted Cruz as far as I can see. I just meant I’m not sure everyone in the GOP would just do whatever he said. I don’t think they’d literally try to remove him from office, but I think Trump’s death would leave a power vacuum and you would see a lot of power plays. A whole different kind of chaos. Or maybe I’m wrong and they’d be thrilled to be rid of the embarrassment and have someone younger and less of an oddball in charge. No idea.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 18, 2024 4:32:59 GMT
I mean ... unless they've already set aside the constitution (possible), doesn't the VP have to become president if the pres dies? Not saying he'd be elected for another term. I think Vance is even worse than Trump. He's in the same box with Ted Cruz as far as I can see. I just meant I’m not sure everyone in the GOP would just do whatever he said. I don’t think they’d literally try to remove him from office, but I think Trump’s death would leave a power vacuum and you would see a lot of power plays. A whole different kind of chaos. Or maybe I’m wrong and they’d be thrilled to be rid of the embarrassment and have someone younger and less of an oddball in charge. No idea. That is why I said he would be a nightmare because I have no doubt he would find a way to fill that power vacuum if trump drops dead. Edited to add I wouldn’t be surprised if trump didn’t become his puppet. More than a few people believed that George W listened too much to Cheney, especially when it came to Iraq. If I remember correctly including his own father.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 18, 2024 4:57:25 GMT
If it happened before Nov 5th it could be beneficial to to moving votes blue. After we're far more screwed .. Vance is smarter. Not so good for any of us..
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Post by lisae on Sept 18, 2024 11:17:21 GMT
I mean ... unless they've already set aside the constitution (possible), doesn't the VP have to become president if the pres dies? Not saying he'd be elected for another term. I looked this up once when Biden was still running. What happens if a nominee dies or between the convention and the election? I think in the Republicans case, the RNC chooses the nominee. Since ballots are already being printed and mailed. I can't imagine they could choose someone else but Vance. This election is enough of a nightmare. I hope we make it to election day with our current nominees and their running mates.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Sept 18, 2024 11:49:02 GMT
I saw on TT that JDV hopes to invoke amendment 25 to remove trump if he wins. The TT said this is why trump was talking about updating amendment 25, bc when JD invokes A25, then trump would invoke it right back to remove him.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 18, 2024 12:23:41 GMT
IMO best case scenario Harris wins the election, preferably by a lot, and TFG is so upset he is hospitalized with some ‘got too upset to communicate anymore’ medical issue & unable to lie in/to the media.
Vance is just not as influential with the MAGAts as TFG, nor is he believable. He just didn’t go to the same lie school TFG did and he doesn’t seem to know that you NEVER admit you made it up no matter what is proved, you just keep lying the same lie.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 18, 2024 12:24:58 GMT
I saw on TT that JDV hopes to invoke amendment 25 to remove trump if he wins. The TT said this is why trump was talking about updating amendment 25, bc when JD invokes A25, then trump would invoke it right back to remove him. If Trump were to win I expect Vance to be replaced asap. Blind loyalty is everything to TFG.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Sept 18, 2024 12:43:21 GMT
I saw on TT that JDV hopes to invoke amendment 25 to remove trump if he wins. The TT said this is why trump was talking about updating amendment 25, bc when JD invokes A25, then trump would invoke it right back to remove him. If Trump were to win I expect Vance to be replaced asap. Blind loyalty is everything to TFG. can you just replace the elected VP???
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Post by 3boysnme on Sept 18, 2024 12:45:32 GMT
Everything in me says that Harris/Walz has this in the bag. But then I thought that back in 2016 about Clinton. My anxiety level is way up there.
I really need to stop reading stuff on Facebook. My distain for trump/vance is too much for me to keep quiet. I need to stop interacting with maga people on there. I'm not equipped to handle it anymore! LOL!
I hadn't seen anything that vance wants to invoke amendment 25 against trump. If true, maybe their whole campaign will just implode. That would be nice.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 18, 2024 13:16:26 GMT
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Post by 3boysnme on Sept 18, 2024 13:30:31 GMT
I don't know where it is. I had to look it up. Should a presidential candidate know? Yes. I bet Kamala Harris knows.
Speaking of where something (one) is, where is Melania these days? I've seen a lot of Doug and Gwen, but no Melania.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 18, 2024 17:55:16 GMT
If Trump were to win I expect Vance to be replaced asap. Blind loyalty is everything to TFG. can you just replace the elected VP??? Nixon replaced Agnew. Yes Agnew resigned, so he could be pardoned. But TFG said he will be dictator on day 1 and a dictator can do whatever they do. 🤷♀️ I mean the man literally threw his own brother under the bus legally when the casinos had troubles so why anyone else thinks they are ‘safe’ with him they’re delusional.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 18, 2024 17:57:10 GMT
I don't know where it is. I had to look it up. Should a presidential candidate know? Yes. I bet Kamala Harris knows. Speaking of where something (one) is, where is Melania these days? I've seen a lot of Doug and Gwen, but no Melania. Can you blame her the way TFG is parading around Loomer? I might go into seclusion too if my partner was parading around his new toy in public.
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Post by 3boysnme on Sept 18, 2024 18:43:30 GMT
hop2 Yeah, that was meant as sarcasm. If anyone is still for him after all the debacles of late, they are definitely effed up in the head.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 18, 2024 18:59:53 GMT
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 18, 2024 21:53:47 GMT
I saw on TT that JDV hopes to invoke amendment 25 to remove trump if he wins. The TT said this is why trump was talking about updating amendment 25, bc when JD invokes A25, then trump would invoke it right back to remove him. Ideally, they eat their own. IMO best case scenario Harris wins the election, preferably by a lot, and TFG is so upset he is hospitalized with some ‘got too upset to communicate anymore’ medical issue & unable to lie in/to the media. Love this. The only thing worse (to TFG) than not being in power is not being the center of attention. He'd wither away!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 18, 2024 22:11:00 GMT
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Post by pinklady on Sept 18, 2024 22:26:05 GMT
JD Vance is no Mike Pence. He will invoke the 25th at the first chance he gets. He is a scary fuck that everyone should fear.
The VP can resign but cannot be fired or replaced. This is why Pence stayed the entire term and why the orange piece of shit wants a constitutional amendment saying the 25th applies to the VP as well.
As creepy as Pence is, he believes in the constitution and essentially democracy. I truly believe he was the only thing standing in trumps way from running amok. He also didn’t want to go down in history as the VP that invoked the 25th. That’s why it didn’t happen. He has balls but they are small.
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Post by Just T on Sept 18, 2024 22:41:10 GMT
He has balls but they are small.
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Post by wholarmor on Sept 18, 2024 23:05:30 GMT
What really scares me is, without a doubt, trump will declare himself the winner. No matter the results. I hope we are prepared this time. We cannot have another January 6th.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 19, 2024 0:37:35 GMT
What really scares me is, without a doubt, trump will declare himself the winner. No matter the results. I hope we are prepared this time. We cannot have another January 6th. It has already been stated that the time frame will be treated with much more emphasis on security.. (I forget the exact terms)
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 19, 2024 0:42:24 GMT
What really scares me is, without a doubt, trump will declare himself the winner. No matter the results. We know he will try. He has said as much.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 19, 2024 0:48:24 GMT
I saw on TT that JDV hopes to invoke amendment 25 to remove trump if he wins. The TT said this is why trump was talking about updating amendment 25, bc when JD invokes A25, then trump would invoke it right back to remove him. I hadn’t thought of him doing that but now I can’t unthink it. I could so see him doing that but then again TFG has so many fans that I think they would protest. Boy we thought the last election got messy. I sure hope we don’t get to see if he would do this. One more reason to vote blue not that I was considering not.
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