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Post by Merge on Sept 22, 2024 15:15:08 GMT
I don't know how JC Penney's is holding on. They did partner with Sephora, and our local Penney's has a Sephora store in it. What is funny though is that there is full-sized Sephora store across from Penney's in the mall. I wondered if Penney's still had Sephora because I was in Kohl's not long ago and they have a Sephora store inside now. I'm surprised to se DVDs making a come back. Sephora left Penneys and went to Kohls, which I found funny because my area has one of the few remaining standalone, really successful Penneys. Frequently crowded. And the Kohls nearby never has anyone in it except to make Amazon returns. |
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 22, 2024 17:12:10 GMT
And the Kohls nearby never has anyone in it except to make Amazon returns. Hahaha, I was in Kohl's to make a return and, yes, the store was very empty. But at least it was a Kohl's return. I love their Tek Gear workout clothes, always buy online for size/color options and occasionally throw something else in the cart. The something elses have a high return rate. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 22, 2024 17:25:33 GMT
And the Kohls nearby never has anyone in it except to make Amazon returns. Hahaha, I was in Kohl's to make a return and, yes, the store was very empty. But at least it was a Kohl's return. I love their Tek Gear workout clothes, always buy online for size/color options and occasionally throw something else in the cart. The something elses have a high return rate. Yeah, it's been years since I saw anything there I wanted to wear. I'm probably there every other week for Amazon returns so I see what they've got out. |
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 22, 2024 17:34:31 GMT
Eastman Kodak. They were a film company and digital photos did them in. Kodak invented the digital camera, they just didn't put it into.production. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, but at their core they were a film company not a camera company. They specialized in chemicals. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Sept 22, 2024 18:59:06 GMT
Kodak invented the digital camera, they just didn't put it into.production. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, but at their core they were a film company not a camera company. They specialized in chemicals. I disagree. He started out doing plates, but was completely interested in designing a new type of film and then Eastman named his camera Kodak and it was the first camera for the general consumer. He wanted to make photography a mainstream activity. Prior to the camera and film it wasn't the Kodak Company. They eventually did realize more money was to be made in film development, but they still made cameras. My God, they made cameras for over 100 years. They could have easily pivoted again with the digital camera. It was shortsighted of them not to. |
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Post by librarylady on Sept 22, 2024 19:01:10 GMT
Related to the conversation: In the early 1970s there was a stand alone Sears near me. I worked there at nights during my divorce. It did so well that a big mall grew up on the west end of the store and became a very big and successful mall--until it wasn't. The entire building has been torn down and is a bare blight. The investors who purchased the mall had big plans but (apparently) not the money. I'm not sure what will eventually happen to this very expensive property in north Dallas.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Sept 22, 2024 21:06:45 GMT
Yeah, but at their core they were a film company not a camera company. They specialized in chemicals. I disagree. He started out doing plates, but was completely interested in designing a new type of film and then Eastman named his camera Kodak and it was the first camera for the general consumer. He wanted to make photography a mainstream activity. Prior to the camera and film it wasn't the Kodak Company. They eventually did realize more money was to be made in film development, but they still made cameras. My God, they made cameras for over 100 years. They could have easily pivoted again with the digital camera. It was shortsighted of them not to. They did attempt to make digital cameras. I bought a couple for my daughters once, but they ended up being total crap. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Sept 22, 2024 22:17:46 GMT
I disagree. He started out doing plates, but was completely interested in designing a new type of film and then Eastman named his camera Kodak and it was the first camera for the general consumer. He wanted to make photography a mainstream activity. Prior to the camera and film it wasn't the Kodak Company. They eventually did realize more money was to be made in film development, but they still made cameras. My God, they made cameras for over 100 years. They could have easily pivoted again with the digital camera. It was shortsighted of them not to. They did attempt to make digital cameras. I bought a couple for my daughters once, but they ended up being total crap. Yes they released digital cameras much later, and after the market was flooded. The point was they actually invented the hand held digital camera in the 70s. Nearly 20 years before they became widely available. Imagine if they had appropriately patented and produced them initially? The same man even invented the first SLR which Kodak also refused to put in production. |
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 23, 2024 12:37:16 GMT
I think Bath and Body works current obsession with musk, sandalwood, cedar, and "woods" is about to push me completely away. They cant just make a citrus body wash and keep stocking it. Coconut Lime Breeze is gone, Sun-washed Citrus is gone, Iced Lemon Poundcake is gone, and Kitchen Lime is gone. I bought one that was Clementine something. It had an over powering musk/patchouli smell. If I wanted perfumey soap, Id buy it! This has been today's vent. I have also recently remembered that The Body Shop is no more. I liked their stuff, but it was pricey I have been using the Kitchen Mandarin foaming soap in my bathrooms. I replaced the pinkish pump with a white one from another bottle. Bonus, you can buy the refill carton. I did this because I didn't like the scents available. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 23, 2024 13:51:06 GMT
The convenience of online shopping is contributing to more and more B&M stores closing. I don’t see my local Michaels being around much longer especially since a Hobby Lobby opened a few years ago just a mile away. Like Sears and Bed, Bath & Beyond it won’t be long before JC Penney’s goes to online only. Hobby Lobby is WAY behind the times! All of their inventory has price tags on it because nothing is scanned with barcodes at the register, it’s all keyed in by hand. Several of the Michael’s stores in my area have even added self checkouts. I have noticed that Michael’s and JoAnn’s are really pushing the buy online, pick up in store shopping model. I prefer shopping for things like that in person before making a buying decision but I could definitely save a little money by going through Rakuten first and buying online the stuff I know for sure I want and then browsing the aisles for the things I’m not so sure of. |
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Post by littlemama on Sept 23, 2024 14:14:51 GMT
I think Bath and Body works current obsession with musk, sandalwood, cedar, and "woods" is about to push me completely away. They cant just make a citrus body wash and keep stocking it. Coconut Lime Breeze is gone, Sun-washed Citrus is gone, Iced Lemon Poundcake is gone, and Kitchen Lime is gone. I bought one that was Clementine something. It had an over powering musk/patchouli smell. If I wanted perfumey soap, Id buy it! This has been today's vent. I have also recently remembered that The Body Shop is no more. I liked their stuff, but it was pricey I have been using the Kitchen Mandarin foaming soap in my bathrooms. I replaced the pinkish pump with a white one from another bottle. Bonus, you can buy the refill carton. I did this because I didn't like the scents available. I mostly use Kitchen Mandarin, Kitchen Lemon, Vampire Blood, and Champagne Toast for hand soaps. It is the Body Wash that is driving me crazy! |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 23, 2024 14:41:19 GMT
Have to give Target props for having a reasonable selection of clothing, linens and toys. They’ve survived where toys r us, BB&B, linens n things and sears did not. I think part of the issue is having good buyers who stay with the trends. I agree that Target has their finger on the pulse of what’s trendy at any given time. Just look at the whole Stanley Quencher cup collab they had earlier this year around Valentine’s Day, it was absolutely nuts. And some of the other collaborations they have done with designers have been insane too, with people lining up for hours to buy some limited edition thing just so they can turn around and resell it on eBay for ten times the price. I love (almost) everything about Target. In my area anyway, the stores are always immaculately clean and bright, aisles are tidy, employees are helpful and friendly. There is always something new and cool there. It’s a place I don’t hate going into. Maybe some of this is because I live in Target’s home town so they care more about the local stores, but I definitely appreciate the attention to detail that happens in the Targets here. My only complaint is the lack of cashiers at times. I know some of that is because they can’t get enough people but that’s pretty true everywhere these days. I won’t even go into the Walmart by me if I can at all help it. Even though it’s in an upscale area, the store is a total dump! The lighting is dim, the floors are always dirty, aisles are full of unpacked boxes and shelves are messy and look like a pack of wild animals were scavenging through whatever is left there. Employees seem like they are tolerating their job at best or overwhelmed at worst. Heck, even the area Goodwill store is a nicer place to shop and that’s really saying something. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 23, 2024 14:43:50 GMT
And the Kohls nearby never has anyone in it except to make Amazon returns. Hahaha, I was in Kohl's to make a return and, yes, the store was very empty. But at least it was a Kohl's return. I love their Tek Gear workout clothes, always buy online for size/color options and occasionally throw something else in the cart. The something elses have a high return rate. I too like some of their Tek Gear shirts and longer length shorts. I’m a little disappointed that they stopped making them out of primarily cotton though. All the newer ones I’ve seen are polyester performance fabrics and I don’t like those as much. |
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Post by imkat on Sept 23, 2024 15:02:48 GMT
Sears was struggling, but the vulture capitalists that bought it really made it impossible to succeed while enriching themselves. prospect.org/economy/vulture-capitalism-killed-sears/The same thing is happening to another iconic brand, Pyrex/Corningware/Corelle. They also created a whole new category with the Instant Pot, so it's not like they were not innovating. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 23, 2024 15:05:04 GMT
I wondered if Penney's still had Sephora because I was in Kohl's not long ago and they have a Sephora store inside now. I haven't been inside the Penney's lately, but I wonder too now. I had to look it up and couldn't find a yes or no. Some reviews make it seem like they are still there, others say no. But I did read that Sephora did not renew their agreement with Penney's, that is why they are at Kohl's now. It is funny that when I went to the Sephora inside Penney's once, they didn't carry what I wanted. So, they sent me across the hall to their store, which had it. I think in my area the Sephoras are inside Kohl’s now. I’ve shopped in store and online at a Penney’s several times over the last 6-8 months and the store here is really nice. It was super clean, had lots of nice looking clothes and even my kid found some Forever 21 things she liked there. Last fall I found a table full of long and short sleeve St. John’s Bay t-shirts on clearance for about $4-5 bucks each so I bought a few to see how they held up after washing, and they were actually much nicer than I expected. They had so many pretty colors, fabric is a nice weight, they didn’t shrink up to nothing in the length after washing a few times and V-NECKS!!! In both short and long sleeve! YES!!! FINALLY! I’ve been so disappointed with the selection from Duluth Trading lately (ugly colors, they got rid of my favorite V-neck style, the fabric is thinner now) plus they’re SO expensive. And I got rid of all of the Croft & Barrow t-shirts from Kohl’s because they all seem to shrink so much in the length and stretch out so wide in the width as to be unwearable after a few washes so those are permanently off my list. I was happy to finally find a good alternative at Penney’s. So when I saw JCP was having a sale on their t-shirts a couple weeks ago I must have bought eight or nine new ones so I can retire some of my older Duluth shirts to the lake cabin. I should probably go back now and see what I can score on clearance for super cheap, go through my t-shirt hoard and get rid of all the really bad ones even though they were previously my favorites. |
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Post by peasapie on Sept 23, 2024 15:18:30 GMT
Have to give Target props for having a reasonable selection of clothing, linens and toys. They’ve survived where toys r us, BB&B, linens n things and sears did not. I think part of the issue is having good buyers who stay with the trends. I agree that Target has their finger on the pulse of what’s trendy at any given time. Just look at the whole Stanley Quencher cup collab they had earlier this year around Valentine’s Day, it was absolutely nuts. And some of the other collaborations they have done with designers have been insane too, with people lining up for hours to buy some limited edition thing just so they can turn around and resell it on eBay for ten times the price. I love (almost) everything about Target. In my area anyway, the stores are always immaculately clean and bright, aisles are tidy, employees are helpful and friendly. There is always something new and cool there. It’s a place I don’t hate going into. Maybe some of this is because I live in Target’s home town so they care more about the local stores, but I definitely appreciate the attention to detail that happens in the Targets here. My only complaint is the lack of cashiers at times. I know some of that is because they can’t get enough people but that’s pretty true everywhere these days. I won’t even go into the Walmart by me if I can at all help it. Even though it’s in an upscale area, the store is a total dump! The lighting is dim, the floors are always dirty, aisles are full of unpacked boxes and shelves are messy and look like a pack of wild animals were scavenging through whatever is left there. Employees seem like they are tolerating their job at best or overwhelmed at worst. Heck, even the area Goodwill store is a nicer place to shop and that’s really saying something. I guess we are lucky to have a pretty nice Walmart by us. It's a shame they're not all taken care of the same way. |
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Post by peasapie on Sept 23, 2024 15:20:24 GMT
Have to give Target props for having a reasonable selection of clothing, linens and toys. They’ve survived where toys r us, BB&B, linens n things and sears did not. I think part of the issue is having good buyers who stay with the trends. Do you think being a specialty store hurts stores today? Other than Sears, TRU, BB&B, and Linens n Things, sort of specialized in certain goods. Someone can instead go to Target and get a lot of different items, at good prices, and in trendy styles. I'm not sure. By me, Bath and Body Works does a great business, and they specialize in candles and lotions mainly. But they also have an online presence. I wonder if the successful ones mostly have a combination of online and in person. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 23, 2024 15:23:40 GMT
I guess we are lucky to have a pretty nice Walmart by us. It's a shame they're not all taken care of the same way. That’s just it though, it’s not just the one store. Almost all of them in my general area that I’ve been in are horrible. There’s one by our lake cabin that drove out all of the smaller stores so it’s the only game in town for miles around and that one too is so bad. It reminds me of the K-Mart stores when they were on the downhill slide into oblivion. It’s such a dark, sad place to shop that I don’t even want to go in there. |
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Post by bossymom on Sept 23, 2024 15:29:34 GMT
Last Kmart is closingLast Kmart to close. Our Target I only do pickup at or have it shipped. It's gross inside.
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Post by leeny on Sept 23, 2024 15:31:35 GMT
I guess we are lucky to have a pretty nice Walmart by us. It's a shame they're not all taken care of the same way. That’s just it though, it’s not just the one store. Almost all of them in my general area that I’ve been in are horrible. There’s one by our lake cabin that drove out all of the smaller stores so it’s the only game in town for miles around and that one too is so bad. It reminds me of the K-Mart stores when they were on the downhill slide into oblivion. It’s such a dark, sad place to shop that I don’t even want to go in there. Well unfortunately or fortunately our Kmart burned down in the 2017 wildfire that devastated part of our town. The Kmart was on it's last legs I think. It was never rebuilt and the lot sits empty. |
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Post by lily on Sept 23, 2024 15:56:40 GMT
I did not read all the replies so maybe someone has said this, but what is interesting about SEARS is that when I was a kid in the 60's-70's, SEARS were all free standing stores! I think they moved to Malls in the 80's maybe around here.
I hate that there are no stores to go try clothes on. That used to be such a FUN thing to do on a rainy weekend...take Mom or a friend and just go try stuff on. We had so many laughs in the fitting rooms!
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Post by katlady on Sept 23, 2024 16:06:18 GMT
I did not read all the replies so maybe someone has said this, but what is interesting about SEARS is that when I was a kid in the 60's-70's, SEARS were all free standing stores! I think they moved to Malls in the 80's maybe around here. I hate that there are no stores to go try clothes on. That used to be such a FUN thing to do on a rainy weekend...take Mom or a friend and just go try stuff on. We had so many laughs in the fitting rooms! Sears was around before malls, so many of their older stores were stand alone. I grew up in LA, and the closest mall was probably in Glendale, and that didn’t open until the late 1970’s. We would go to the Sears on Hollywood Bl or the big one just east of LA. All the department stores were stand alone, either in downtown LA, or scattered around LA. Some of those old department stores were gorgeous! The May Co on Wilshire was in an art deco type building. It is now a museum I think. And Bullocks Wilshire was amazing. That building is a historic landmark. It even had a drive up entrance way, and elevator people to open and close the doors. And the downtown department stores had animated display windows during the holidays. It is a shame that all disappeared. |
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Sept 23, 2024 18:11:27 GMT
I think Bath and Body works current obsession with musk, sandalwood, cedar, and "woods" is about to push me completely away. They cant just make a citrus body wash and keep stocking it. Coconut Lime Breeze is gone, Sun-washed Citrus is gone, Iced Lemon Poundcake is gone, and Kitchen Lime is gone. I bought one that was Clementine something. It had an over powering musk/patchouli smell. If I wanted perfumey soap, Id buy it! This has been today's vent. I have also recently remembered that The Body Shop is no more. I liked their stuff, but it was pricey I love the Watkins lemon hand soap available at Walmart. You can buy a large refill, too. www.walmart.com/ip/869986126Watkins is a good example of a company that adapted. They started out selling off the back of a truck and home parties. They started allowing online orders several years ago, then slowly rolled their products out to retail outlets. I don’t know if they even have individual distributors anymore. I love their extracts! |
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